FIFA 09 PS3/360 Discussion Thread

[Milanista]

New discussion thread, solely for FIFA 09 discussion.

Let this be a clean slate after the old one. There is a separate news thread updated by CB here:

http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=48273


Old thread:
http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=46089

Info (Thanks CB & all):

Videos:
01 JULY 2008

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http://www.shareonall.com/Fifa09_bsrq.wmv (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vke2QmIOI7s)
http://ifile.it/f80winb

Mirrors of supposed high-quality version, courtesy of Placebo...
http://ifile.it/dbun07s/fifa09.mp4
http://vip-file.com/download/145826438959/Fifa09.mp4.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/39877962/Fifa09.mp4.html

YouTube - FIFA 09 impressions des journalistes PSM3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JnHmb6FTEg)
PSM3 FRANCE writers talking about FIFA 09 (in French)

Mirrors, courtesy of Placebo:
http://vip-file.com/download/b7cab9357994/Fifa09-PSM3-French-chat.wmv.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/39882907/Fifa09_PSM3_French_chat.wmv.html
http://www.filefactory.com/file/0e464c/n/Fifa09_PSM3_French_chat_wmv

CLICK ME (http://www.svenskafans.com/fantv/clip.asp?id=6146)
Interview with Gary Paterson [GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE IS OF EURO 2008]

Mirrors, courtesy of Placebo:
http://rapidshare.de/files/39881302/FIFA09_Svenskafans.wmv.html
http://www.filefactory.com/file/61e432/n/FIFA09_Svenskafans_wmv
http://www.shareonall.com/FIFA09_Svenskafans_wkch.wmv


01 AUGUST 2008


Fifa09_Grypl.wmv (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ihYv8gGg65Y)
Fifa09_Grypl.wmv (http://www.mediafire.com/?egebjnadbdg)

CLICK ME (http://www.gram.pl/art_8AzqHe7_FIFA_09_zapowiedz_strona_3.html)
PC gameplay video (see bottom of page)

Mirrors, courtesy of Placebo:
[url]http://vip-file.com/download/299cc9378412/fifa-09-wywiad-gotowe.wmv.html
http://www.shareonall.com/fifa_09_wywiad_gotowe_wkhm.wmv
http://momupload.com/files/101981/fifa_09_wywiad_gotowe.wmv.html

YouTube - Maurice Edu EA Sports FIFA 09 Motion Capture (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l5D9uF4nwo)
Motion capture session with Maurice Edu

Mirrors, courtesy of Placebo:
http://www.shareonall.com/Fifa09_edu_mocap_ehxz.wmv
http://momupload.com/files/102418/Fifa09_edu_mocap.wmv.html
http://vip-file.com/download/6c0b13429722/Fifa09-edu-mocap.wmv.html

This is a private video on Vimeo (http://www.vimeo.com/1441548) & This is a private video on Vimeo (http://www.vimeo.com/1441737)
FIFA 08/FIFA 09 comparison presentation, parts one and two

Mirrors, courtesy of Placebo:
http://rapidshare.de/files/40129205/Fifa09_Presentation_vimeo.wmv.html
http://www.filefactory.com/file/df0907/n/Fifa09_Presentation_vimeo_wmv
http://www.shareonall.com/Fifa09_Presentation_vimeo_vjhc.wmv

CLICK ME (http://www.videogameszone.de/aid,654223/VideogamesZone/FIFA_09/Chelsea_vs_Arsenal_Exklusives_Video_aus_FIFA_09/)
FIFA 09 gameplay video (Arsenal v Chelsea)

Mirrors, courtesy of Placebo:
http://momupload.com/files/103268/fifa09_videogameszone_preview.wmv.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/40133731/fifa09_videogameszone_preview.wmv.html
http://archiv.to/?Module=Details&HashID=FILE4892E20816FDC


PS3/360 Screenshots:
01 JULY 2008

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http://www.fifarus.ru/images/fifa2009/fifa_09_next_gen/17.jpg
http://www.fifarus.ru/images/fifa2009/fifa_09_next_gen/19.jpg
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01 AUGUST 2008

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http://www.videogameszone.de/screenshots/original/2008/07/fifa_09-000.jpg

DOWNLOAD ALL 75 SCREENSHOTS FROM THIS SERIES, ARSENAL V CHELSEA, IN A SINGLE RAR FILE (MIRRORS COURTESY OF PLACEBO):
http://archiv.to/?Module=Details&HashID=FILE4890BB0028FD0
http://vip-file.com/download/bfdacf453570/videogameszone-screens.rar.html
http://www.megashare.co.uk/download.php?id=E54192941

OR WATCH THE YOUTUBE HIGH-QUALITY SLIDESHOW (COURTESY OF PLACEBO):
YouTube - Fifa09 Screenshot Slideshow from videogameszone.de (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clOh1h4RFag)

VIDEOGAMESZONE.DE MASSIVE GALLERY (BARCELONA V MANCHESTER UNITED) (http://www.videogameszone.de/?menu=browser&mode=article&article_id=654219&entity_id=216517,216518&image_id=868465&page=1&order=)

VIDEOGAMESZONE.DE MASSIVE GALLERY (BE A PRO MODE) (http://www.videogameszone.de/?menu=browser&mode=article&article_id=654219&entity_id=216517,216518&image_id=868465&page=1&order=)


PC Version Screenshots:
01 JULY 2008

http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb//GamesRadar/us/Games/F/FIFA%2009/Bulk%20Viewers/PC/2008-06-05/UPM102.fifa.pc1--screenshot.jpg
http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb//GamesRadar/us/Games/F/FIFA%2009/Bulk%20Viewers/PC/2008-06-05/UPM102.fifa.pc2--screenshot.jpg
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01 AUGUST 2008

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PCGAMES.DE MASSIVE GALLERY (GERMAN TEAMS) (http://www.pcgames.de/aid,654146/Bildergalerie/Sportspiel/Neue_Grafik_fuer_FIFA_-_Hier_sind_die_ersten_echten_PC-Screenshots_aus_FIFA_09/)

CYNAMITE.DE MASSIVE GALLERY (GERMAN TEAMS) (http://www.cynamite.de/_misc/galleries/detail.cfm?pk=1362&fk=89264&opv=gal)

[url=http://www.gamestar.de/screenshots/sport/80507/fifa_09.html]GAMESTAR.DE MASSIVE GALLERY (GERMAN TEAMS)


Misc Screenshots:
01 AUGUST 2008

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[Aboutreika18]

:SS Did I miss something?

[Milanista]

The old thread reached 130 pages, time for a fresh thread, easier to navigate too :)

[reddevils]

From the last thread:

The Maestro: White Boots
- White represents purity and light and the Maestro oozes talent and class, and has everything except sweat-inducing work rate.

Tevez wears white boots :| :LOL: those are so incorrect

[Milanista]

Has anyone heard anything about the edit mode? I really want to be able to edit stats of players without much limitations.

[santiago]

Man, 90 boots is a lot of boots :D I'm so happy about that.

[sweetkilla]

FIFA 09 Will be the Ultimate football game on your Xbox 360/PS3 :P

[sweetkilla]

Has anyone heard anything about the edit mode? I really want to be able to edit stats of players without much limitations.

I think we will be limited again :(

[profit90]

They really need to open up the editing in fifa

[Placebo]

At least they got rid of the really quite ridiculous need to unlock 3rd kits, balls and boots, that's something :)

[TikTikTikTikTik]

Its a shame they keep closing the threads. I remember feeling so proud to have posted in last years when the pes thread reached 4000pages.........or something like that. 3999,5 of those pages were excellent fanboy fights. Ah those were the days.......

Does anybody think that to solve the "player likeness" in gameplay (not what they look like but how they play) they should use an amplifier calculation for the player stats. Meaning someone with a great shot would have a really really great shot, someone strong would be really rally strong, etc. I think thats were part of the "soul" of the game is, where it was/is in pes. Playing that years ago you would just know what a certain player could do and adjust accordingly. So far in the fifa's Ive never felt that need tbh. But the flip side of pes' amplifiying is you get players like Adriano who are far too strong, he's never been that good in real life but the stat amplifier gives these problems.

I think it could lie in this that gives fifa a somewhat hollow player likeness as they are using "proper" stats. You only have to look at the big games between the big four in england to see that players like ronaldo, lampard, torres, etc don't stand out (much) from the rest of the players. Its only against the lesser teams that these players show how much better they are (dont start going on how amazing these players are, its a generalisation to make the point). But in pes adriano could batter the best defensive team. In real life he cant, in fifa he cant.......but for that reason the players stand out more in pes and give it "soul".

So what do you guys think, should EA amplify player stats? So say the stats that are in the 90-ties become "110+" to show that difference.

[gomito#10]

At least they got rid of the really quite ridiculous need to unlock 3rd kits, balls and boots, that's something :)

FUCKING AMEN! it was so annoying getting to the kit selection screen and all of the kits for both teams would clash, except for the third, but you couldnt unlock it... see i think these are things we dont appreciate in newer versions, subtle but needed changes, bravo ea, way to fix your stupid initial implementation :)

[gomito#10]

Its a shame they keep closing the threads. I remember feeling so proud to have posted in last years when the pes thread reached 4000pages.........or something like that. 3999,5 of those pages were excellent fanboy fights. Ah those were the days.......

Does anybody think that to solve the "player likeness" in gameplay (not what they look like but how they play) they should use an amplifier calculation for the player stats. Meaning someone with a great shot would have a really really great shot, someone strong would be really rally strong, etc. I think thats were part of the "soul" of the game is, where it was/is in pes. Playing that years ago you would just know what a certain player could do and adjust accordingly. So far in the fifa's Ive never felt that need tbh. But the flip side of pes' amplifiying is you get players like Adriano who are far too strong, he's never been that good in real life but the stat amplifier gives these problems.

I think it could lie in this that gives fifa a somewhat hollow player likeness as they are using "proper" stats. You only have to look at the big games between the big four in england to see that players like ronaldo, lampard, torres, etc don't stand out (much) from the rest of the players. Its only against the lesser teams that these players show how much better they are. But in pes adriano could batter the best defensive team. In real life he cant, in fifa he cant.......but for that reason the players stand out more in pes and give it "soul".

So what do you guys think, should EA amplify player stats?
YES, i agree completley

[Placebo]

FUCKING AMEN! it was so annoying getting to the kit selection screen and all of the kits for both teams would clash, except for the third, but you couldnt unlock it... see i think these are things we dont appreciate in newer versions, subtle but needed changes, bravo ea, way to fix your stupid initial implementation :)

I begged them to include Sheffield Wednesday's 3rd kit for next season, so fingers crossed ;)

If the stat editing is still strictly limited I'll be sure to raise it in my hands on review ;)

[reddevils]

At least they got rid of the really quite ridiculous need to unlock 3rd kits, balls and boots, that's something :)

where did you hear/read that?

[Placebo]

A few of the previews, they'll be in that thread that got locked cos of the behaviour of some PES fanboys ;)

[Nick Cave]

At least they got rid of the really quite ridiculous need to unlock 3rd kits, balls and boots, that's something :) :DANCE:

[danhammer]

yeah the unlockable part of the game really sucked

[AsterNzeyii]

Yay, the only thing we need to get from the producers is that we can create our own boots, just like in PES 6. Man, I loved that :D

[ronaldo10]

Its a shame they keep closing the threads. I remember feeling so proud to have posted in last years when the pes thread reached 4000pages.........or something like that. 3999,5 of those pages were excellent fanboy fights. Ah those were the days.......

Does anybody think that to solve the "player likeness" in gameplay (not what they look like but how they play) they should use an amplifier calculation for the player stats. Meaning someone with a great shot would have a really really great shot, someone strong would be really rally strong, etc. I think thats were part of the "soul" of the game is, where it was/is in pes. Playing that years ago you would just know what a certain player could do and adjust accordingly. So far in the fifa's Ive never felt that need tbh. But the flip side of pes' amplifiying is you get players like Adriano who are far too strong, he's never been that good in real life but the stat amplifier gives these problems.

I think it could lie in this that gives fifa a somewhat hollow player likeness as they are using "proper" stats. You only have to look at the big games between the big four in england to see that players like ronaldo, lampard, torres, etc don't stand out (much) from the rest of the players. Its only against the lesser teams that these players show how much better they are (dont start going on how amazing these players are, its a generalisation to make the point). But in pes adriano could batter the best defensive team. In real life he cant, in fifa he cant.......but for that reason the players stand out more in pes and give it "soul".

So what do you guys think, should EA amplify player stats? So say the stats that are in the 90-ties become "110+" to show that difference.

hell yeah, correct states for the players, are so important ofcourse that's what make the game alive and last alot longer plaing it.
if the players feel as they are in real life while controlling them, it makes the game true simulation, realistic, addictiv gameplay, and every match plays different etc...
thats what made pes the best football game for so many years.
i really hope that, ea will work on the players state in the future, and make sure the players feel different from each other, coz fixing that, means evry team should play as they do in rel life.
i know ea got the basics states right, for some stars, like the players speed, strenght, skillz, and headers, but that's not enough, they need to go more in details, like to put star states (like in pes) for example: say D.Becham have fk star, ck star, passing and crossing star, playmaker star, if u get what am on about, so that the great players will stand out and show of what they are good at.
sorry for the long post and i hope u guys understud my poor writting:banned:

[Sollito]

At least they got rid of the really quite ridiculous need to unlock 3rd kits, balls and boots, that's something :)

That's fantastic! :w00t:

Man, 90 boots is a lot of boots :-D I'm so happy about that.

n' so this one... :DANCE:

[DaWu]

bad news

I bought the play3 mag today and they have a fifa and pes preview. besides the fact that they say pes will be the football king once more (rofl!!!) they have an interview with rutter. in this interview he mentions that they have a slider for the game speed BUT they are still discussing if they will keep it for the final game or take it out again

[sweetkilla]

The thing I want to know with the people who say fifa will be the king and pes will be the king do they have any valid points for saying this other than we are just fanboys of either game

have they tested both ? my guess is a big fat NO

[Jamezinho]

The thing I want to know with the people who say fifa will be the king and pes will be the king do they have any valid points for saying this other than we are just fanboys of either game

have they tested both ? my guess is a big fat NO

Remember last year when according to most of the gaming press PES 2008 was the king? Enough said.

bad news

I bought the play3 mag today and they have a fifa and pes preview. besides the fact that they say pes will be the football king once more (rofl!!!) they have an interview with rutter. in this interview he mentions that they have a slider for the game speed BUT they are still discussing if they will keep it for the final game or take it out again

I think most Fifa fans will be happy if the game plays at the speed of Fifa 08 or maybe a bit quicker like Euro 08. But it does seem strange that they would consider removing the speed slider. Although I would never play on the fast setting at least it would satisfy those who complained 08 was too slow. Give the gamer more choice, that's what I say.

[hazza10]

FUCKING AMEN! it was so annoying getting to the kit selection screen and all of the kits for both teams would clash, except for the third, but you couldnt unlock it... see i think these are things we dont appreciate in newer versions, subtle but needed changes, bravo ea, way to fix your stupid initial implementation :)

Yeah i agree i would also like to see kit combinations. For instance man united wear red top, white shorts and black socks but on other occasions they wear red shirts, white shorts and white socks and so on .....

[gameklip]

hell yeah, correct states for the players, are so important ofcourse that's what make the game alive and last alot longer plaing it.
if the players feel as they are in real life while controlling them, it makes the game true simulation, realistic, addictiv gameplay, and every match plays different etc...
thats what made pes the best football game for so many years.
i really hope that, ea will work on the players state in the future, and make sure the players feel different from each other, coz fixing that, means evry team should play as they do in rel life.
i know ea got the basics states right, for some stars, like the players speed, strenght, skillz, and headers, but that's not enough, they need to go more in details, like to put star states (like in pes) for example: say D.Becham have fk star, ck star, passing and crossing star, playmaker star, if u get what am on about, so that the great players will stand out and show of what they are good at.
sorry for the long post and i hope u guys understud my poor writting:banned:

i agree with both quotes. sorry to reference International Superstar Soccer Deluxe on the Snes again but... well.. Konami NAILED the stars right there. I don't even know how they did it. When you were through on GOAL with KOPPERS (KLUIVERT) you knew about it!

in pro evo 5 i remember they were coming very close to addressing this too. freddie ljungberg had a more marauding run-style than say, Beckham. Fifa should have atleast 10 different run styles to choose from. from the arjen robben run style (also used by van persie) to the rooney/tevez run of intent. it would add so much more to the game.

[viniciusdcs]

Yeah, they should definitely make players feel different, that was a problem in Fifa 08 where controlling different players felt very similar, they should make stats stand out more, allow for players to have special skills(the stars from PES), and they should also add distinct dribbling styles, FK stances, PK stances, you know all the things that makes players feel distinct from each other.
PES does everything that I said above, so it's something that I'd like in Fifa.

I would also like a morale system(not sure if it's the right name), you know in PES how it shows the green arrow for players who are playing normal, yellow and red when the player is "hot", and the blue and white arrows when the player is on a cold streak. I think that having a morale system would add more variety to the game, it should be optional for players who don't want it. You guys agree?

Has anyone heard anything about the edit mode? I really want to be able to edit stats of players without much limitations.
Yeah, I hated Fifa 08's edit mode because it wouldn't let us to edit our players freely. Once again that's something that PES does better than Fifa. EA please get rid of the points requirements for editing.

Another thing that I'd like would be a propper training mode(like PES).

Fifa 09 is gonna rock, so far it seems like the best football game this year. But those are just some suggestions of things that PES does better so Fifa should implement as well.

[gameklip]

I agree on most points there. PES has many of the elements needed in FIFA09 to make it one of the best footy games ever (if the improvements Mr. Rutter has told waxed lyrical about have truly been added).

Although i saw a set of screens with ronaldo doing his "i'm the fucking daddy" free kick stance... but it was a penalty screen (which should have had his "i'm about to miss stance" :P). It looked great, inhale and all. we need more of this EA!! Drogba for instance should have his own set of elaborate dives :lol: Put your motion capture tools to good use EA!

The moral arrows were present in some form in fifa07 i think but when you lost the ball a few times your teams passing accuracy and overall effectiveness would drop. They removed it for some reason. I thought it was a decent idea but it should have applied to individuals instead of the team as a whole.

Edit mode in fifa is weak imo. If they could only copy Tiger Woods create-a-player. Tiger Woods 08 allowed you to scan in your own face you don't even have to do a side on so you can use magazine pics) and it is EERILY accurate. I made a beckham golfer. I'll post a pic of my golfer tomorrow. It's eerie.

Having as many licenses as they do i can understand not having the whole kit editor malarkey though.

[viniciusdcs]

Yeah, but since Fifa has all licenses so there's not much need for a good kit editor like in PES, all I want to do is to be able to edit the damn stats without worrying about freaking points. I love editing stats for smaller teams.

I bet that the only different FK stance is C. Ronaldo's "i'm the fucking daddy", once again let us go to the edit mode and change dribbling styles, FK and PK stances for individual players.

Oh and I really hope that Fifa 09 allows us to hit some rockets from the outside depending on the speed/position of the ball and player. And please no more superhuman goalkeeper saves, the superhuman keepers were the most annoying thing in Fifa 08 for me.

[reddevils]

Oh and I really hope that Fifa 09 allows us to hit some rockets from the outside depending on the speed/position of the ball and player. And please no more superhuman goalkeeper saves, the superhuman keepers were the most annoying thing in Fifa 08 for me.

But they balance out the game

imagine in a match, if the saves you thought were super saves went in.......every game would finish like 4-5 or 8-0

I am fine with super saves as long as they arent ridiculous and ATM they are not, i can easily score if i create a opening

[danhammer]

these people who are referring back to ISSPRO, how the hell can you remember?? i can't remember yesterday let alone when i was playing iss pro on the snes

[Ferraritim]

But they balance out the game

imagine in a match, if the saves you thought were super saves went in.......every game would finish like 4-5 or 8-0

I am fine with super saves as long as they arent ridiculous and ATM they are not, i can easily score if i create a opening

It's not very fun if you shoot a perfect bullet going for the top corner and the goalkeeper saves it.

Fifa 08 had a lot of 1-0 and 0-0 scorelines, so the game would be balanced without the super saves.

[Jamezinho]

In Fifa 08 the goalie was far to week at his near post. A nicely placed finesse shot here would more often than not result in a goal. Shooting across goal to the far post was the problem. In real life this is how most goals are scored as a 'keeper should have his near post covered.

[Lami]

I've said the same thing before but I remember Coopz telling me in real life most goals come from near post and its surely not an issue and is realistic enough. But I don't think so. Im with you on that Jamezinho.

Not saying it doesn't happen, but surely not as much. And should be sweet when doing so.

[Ferraritim]

In Fifa 08 the goalie was far to week at his near post. A nicely placed finesse shot here would more often than not result in a goal. Shooting across goal to the far post was the problem. In real life this is how most goals are scored as a 'keeper should have his near post covered.

Yeah, it was almost impossible to score in the far corner. While that is far more satisfying.

[Placebo]

The Chelsea v Arsenal video already showed that scoring across the keeper into the far corner was now possible.

[Coopz]

I've said the same thing before but I remember Coopz telling me in real life most goals come from near post and its surely not an issue and is realistic enough. But I don't think so. Im with you on that Jamezinho.

Not saying it doesn't happen, but surely not as much. And should be sweet when doing so.

Im sure i wont have said most goals

but if you were running at the angles you do on Fifa in real life then the near post would be the easiest option

[Ferraritim]

What do you mean? The angles you are running towards the goal in Fifa are the same as in real life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xATqdehOcSU

Look at the first goal. It's impossible to score like that in Fifa. And from that distance it's impossible to score in any angle. You can move closer and score in the near corner, but that's not my favorite option either.

Same for the Henry goals in the far corner. It's just the most convenient way to score.

[cowden_harley]

use finess you will score like that. i have

[Lami]

Im sure i wont have said most goals

but if you were running at the angles you do on Fifa in real life then the near post would be the easiest option

Only problem is on fifa it almost always ends up a goal. Hope thats been fixed.

[drekkard]

Barcelona took 2 years to score a goal from corner on the secondth post. Just to make a point.

[Coopz]

What do you mean? The angles you are running towards the goal in Fifa are the same as in real life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xATqdehOcSU

Look at the first goal. It's impossible to score like that in Fifa. And from that distance it's impossible to score in any angle. You can move closer and score in the near corner, but that's not my favorite option either.

Same for the Henry goals in the far corner. It's just the most convenient way to score.

In Fifa people wont shoot from there

They would run it closer and would pop it in the near post like Pires would have done it the angle was against him

[sweetkilla]

yes but its a video game people will do what they want to do not whats best for the situation (thinking like real life) so the GK's should be able to adapt to this situation alot better

[Jamezinho]

use finess you will score like that. i have

Yeah I've scored many like that with the finesse shot.

Trouble is if you just want to lace it inside the far post more often than not it is saved.

[hazza10]

all gone quiet at the moment. looks like we will have to wait for leipzig.

[Lami]

Most definitely

[viniciusdcs]

But they balance out the game

imagine in a match, if the saves you thought were super saves went in.......every game would finish like 4-5 or 8-0

I am fine with super saves as long as they arent ridiculous and ATM they are not, i can easily score if i create a opening
Then perhaps they should make it harder to hit shots in the corner. At this moment it's just unrealistic, I used to hit all my shots in the corner of the far post and the GK would always save it. It was easy to aim perfectly in the corners but keepers saved it.

So they should make it harder to hit shots in the corner, but when it does go to the corner than the GK won't have a chanve most of the time.

[Placebo]

all gone quiet at the moment. looks like we will have to wait for leipzig.

Actually we should see some more stuff before that, Fifa09 will be on show at i34 in Coventry 8th-13th August http://i34.multiplay.co.uk/

Fifa09 will be playable and video can also be recorded so we should definitely see some new footage hopefully :)

[gameklip]

gemma atkinson will be there!! :blush:

[YoungGun_UK]

Is that Coventry West Midlands?!!

[Placebo]

No it's Coventry, Uganda ;)

[Nick Cave]

Not it's Coventry, Uganda ;)

Shame that...

[Terry_Butcher]

Can anyone get a vid of the utterly delightful Ms Gemma Atkinson hopefully including film of her yummy jiggling juggs. hehehe

[profit90]

http://armchairtalkinghead.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/gemma-atkinson.jpg

[Terry_Butcher]

http://www.ninjadude.com/ximg/Gemma-Atkinson/gemma-atkinson-boobs.jpg

Oh boy I sooooo wanna suck on those beauties :w00t:

[Placebo]

And you wonder why gamers get such a bad reputation of being nerdy pervs......

[Trance_Allstar]

http://www.ninjadude.com/ximg/Gemma-Atkinson/gemma-atkinson-boobs.jpg


Anyone who calls "off-topic" I will kill... with my bare hands. :joker:

[Terry_Butcher]

Placebo I know u have a wife but if u had the chance you sooooo would u old devil hehehehe.

Imagine this dilemma - a night in the comapny of Gemma (and those funbags) but you have to give up playing Fifa09 for the year. Tricky. Mind you if it was giving up PES for ten years just for a handle on that sweater meat - well it's no contest :)

Juggs! Juggs! glorious Juggs!!! ;)

[Trance_Allstar]

Placebo I know u have a wife but if u had the chance you sooooo would u old devil hehehehe.

Imagine this dilemma - a night in the comapny of Gemma (and those funbags) but you have to give up playing Fifa09 for the year. Tricky. Mind you if it was giving up PES for ten years just for a handle on that sweater meat - well it's no contest :)

Juggs! Juggs! glorious Juggs!!! ;)


You should be a poet. ;)

[Placebo]

Placebo I know u have a wife but if u had the chance you sooooo would u old devil hehehehe.


I'm a married man and so therefore would not if I had the chance :)

[DagsJT]

No FIFA vids if anyone goes, concentrate on videos of Gemma please :TU:

[AsterNzeyii]

Lol why don't I believe u? :LOL:

[Sollito]

And you wonder why gamers get such a bad reputation of being nerdy pervs......

:LOL:

[Sollito]

I have one doubt about FIFA09...

Will be possible to play 2x2 players online? (like Brazil x Spain video)

:)

[Coopz]

Placebo

http://file044b.bebo.com/8/large/2008/08/07/15/5041364620a8566308412l.jpg

[Oli]

My eyes!!

[Ferraritim]

I have one doubt about FIFA09...

Will be possible to play 2x2 players online? (like Brazil x Spain video)

:)

10 vs 10 will be possible, so why not 2 vs 2?

[Sollito]

10 vs 10 will be possible, so why not 2 vs 2?

I think 10 x 10 will be possible with "Be a Pro" mode... I'm asking about "normal" mode, like the Brazil x Spain video. ;))

Anyway, tkz! :))

[Ferraritim]

In Fifa 08 it was also possible to select "any" in the player select menu. You could play in normal mode that way.

The only question is whether it's possible to limit the game to "2 vs 2 on any" and stuff like that. Otherwise your opponents will consist of 5 players playing on be a pro, for example. That's a totally different match.

[Sollito]

In Fifa 08 it was also possible to select "any" in the player select menu. You could play in normal mode that way.

The only question is whether it's possible to limit the game to "2 vs 2 on any" and stuff like that. Otherwise your opponents will consist of 5 players playing on be a pro, for example. That's a totally different match.

Humm, now I understand. :))
I used to play PES, so I'm not familiried with FIFA stuff... :-pp Thank you! ;))

Maybe Placebo can answer our doubt... :SS

[Placebo]

Placebo

http://file044b.bebo.com/8/large/2008/08/07/15/5041364620a8566308412l.jpg

Thanks bud, that's a genuine pic or fan's mockup?

[Placebo]

Maybe Placebo can answer our doubt... :SS

No idea but if I get the opportunity I'll try to find out :)

[Sollito]

No idea but if I get the opportunity I'll try to find out :)

Tkz a lot buddy! ;))

[StuartCulli]

Placebo for Prime Minister.

[Placebo]

"Get all the fools on your side and you can be elected to anything."
Frank Dane.

:LOL:

[Lami]

Good you know who's on your side then ;))

[SJP76]

I have one doubt about FIFA09...

Will be possible to play 2x2 players online? (like Brazil x Spain video)

:)

You could do this in 08 by adding a guest so no reason for EA to take it out in 09. Plenty of 2v2 rooms/lobbies setup aswell so just join one of them.

[Tim7]

Placebo

http://file044b.bebo.com/8/large/2008/08/07/15/5041364620a8566308412l.jpg

Which dullard put the white sponsor logo on a fluo shirt?! :lmao:

[drekkard]

The feature I want is to be able to play the CPU teams in a custom cup. I mean, me and my friends used to do it in PES and in Fifa 08 we couldn't.Let's say we are 4 of us. We make a custom cup with 4 groups and one of us in each group. Then when you play your team, the rest of your mates play one of your opponents in your group and viceversa.

It was a great great way of playing. It was difficult to wina cup with your own team, as you always face your mates, even in semifinals, final and so...

Now I would like to know if EA has thought of this, as it's the only thing I miss from old Pes, but it's a critical one.

[profit90]

The feature I want is to be able to play the CPU teams in a custom cup. I mean, me and my friends used to do it in PES and in Fifa 08 we couldn't.Let's say we are 4 of us. We make a custom cup with 4 groups and one of us in each group. Then when you play your team, the rest of your mates play one of your opponents in your group and viceversa.

It was a great great way of playing. It was difficult to wina cup with your own team, as you always face your mates, even in semifinals, final and so...

Now I would like to know if EA has thought of this, as it's the only thing I miss from old Pes, but it's a critical one.

i do the same thing.. they took this feature out in pes2008. hopefully it gets implemented for both games.

[DaWu]

The feature I want is to be able to play the CPU teams in a custom cup. I mean, me and my friends used to do it in PES and in Fifa 08 we couldn't.Let's say we are 4 of us. We make a custom cup with 4 groups and one of us in each group. Then when you play your team, the rest of your mates play one of your opponents in your group and viceversa.

It was a great great way of playing. It was difficult to wina cup with your own team, as you always face your mates, even in semifinals, final and so...

Now I would like to know if EA has thought of this, as it's the only thing I miss from old Pes, but it's a critical one.

dude you speak out of my mind. thats the most important feature for me :)

[jaygrim]

Don't they have irons in Derby?

[Coopz]

Thanks bud, that's a genuine pic or fan's mockup?

Thats a mock up i think from the people that have seen the shirt

The Sponsor is blue though apparently, they unveil it when we play Lincoln in the Cup on August 12th

[Placebo]

Yeah that's what Mandy from the club told me in her reply to my Email ;)

[Coopz]

Well i could have saved you a e-mail :))

[Placebo]

It's ok I bill EA £3 per email :)

[TikTikTikTikTik]

Did the guys over at FSB get to try out both 360 and ps3 versions? I saw some pics over on their site of people testing it out (I assumed it was reporters in Vancouver). If so, was there a difference like last years version (and euro08)? I know ps3 has some secret mode, but Im talking about graphics/gameplay.

[Sollito]

You could do this in 08 by adding a guest so no reason for EA to take it out in 09. Plenty of 2v2 rooms/lobbies setup aswell so just join one of them.

Thank you! ;))

[StuartCulli]

"Get all the fools on your side and you can be elected to anything."
Frank Dane.

:LOL:

OI! :TD:

[Jamezinho]

Did the guys over at FSB get to try out both 360 and ps3 versions? I saw some pics over on their site of people testing it out (I assumed it was reporters in Vancouver). If so, was there a difference like last years version (and euro08)? I know ps3 has some secret mode, but Im talking about graphics/gameplay.

If I remember right they talked about this in the FSB podcast. I believe they said that graphically there was very little difference between the two, but the 360 version looked a little sharper still. But the PS3 version was the most improved compared to last year.

Suff said game play was the same on both but he favoured the PS3 version due to his preference of the dual shock controller.

I'll need to listen to it again to make sure I didn't just make that up.:))

[sweetkilla]

he said you can do more precise turns with the PS3 controller (he got told by a DEV)

[Trance_Allstar]

he said you can do more precise turns with the PS3 controller (he got told by a DEV)


Why was that?

[airjoca]

I'm sure it's when using the D-Pad, which is much more precise on the PS3 than 360. Street Fighter sucks on 360, enough said. :)

[Coopz]

the 360 D-Pad is utter shite

i cant even type with it without it going in directions i aint pressed

[BillyBoy]

Its not just the d-pad which is more precise on the PS3 its also the analog sticks. The PS3 uses 10 bit resolution analog sticks while the 360 and Wii only use 8 bit resolution ones. This affects both the X and Y axis and gives a wider range of movement and precision on the Sixaxis and Dualshock 3. The only bad thing about the PS3 controller is the position of the analog sticks and their grip otherwise its really good. :)

[BillyBoy]

Of course since neither FIFA 09 nor PES 2009 use 360 degree motion control the effects wont be huge. All it really means is that its just slightly more precise and responsive compared to the Xbox 360 controller.

[fatlip180]

I hate the ps3's analogue pad, 360 pad is far far better imo - (although agreed the d pad is shite, but , saying that dpad is soooo last gen.)

After an hour on CL2008, on the ps3 my hands feel like a 60 year old artheritis patient after a 4 hour wank-a-thon

[TikTikTikTikTik]

After an hour on CL2008, on the ps3 my hands feel like a 60 year old artheritis patient after a 4 hour wank-a-thon

Stop trying to turn Jay on!

[airjoca]

As long as there are beat'em ups, D-Pad will never be "last gen"...

[Trance_Allstar]

As long as there are beat'em ups, D-Pad will never be "last gen"...


Beat 'em Ups are last gen aswell... Atleast I've not played one yet that wouldn't have been out of place in an arcade. Always fast pace, superhuman moves etc. I'm still waiting for a beat 'em up that strives for realism, would be sweet. Less button bashing and more control and focus on blocking and countering. :D

[Blaccat]

I regret the day i played fight night on the 360, that controller fucked me up

[TikTikTikTikTik]

I actually bought a madcatz 360 controller just for the d-pad. Their dpad is pretty close to the ps3's.

[TikTikTikTikTik]

If I remember right they talked about this in the FSB podcast. I believe they said that graphically there was very little difference between the two, but the 360 version looked a little sharper still. But the PS3 version was the most improved compared to last year.

Suff said game play was the same on both but he favoured the PS3 version due to his preference of the dual shock controller.

Tnx for the anwser. Sound good then, was still wondering what version to get (will wait till have played both demo's) but the fact I can go back to d-pad (woohoo.....I know, step back), have free online play and some special mode whatever that will be makes me think I might get this for the ps3 this year. If there is little difference in graphics and less of the jaggies from the previous versions it could be good.

Why was that?

I would say with the improved responsiveness and the extra speed/sharpness of d-pad control the d-pad could be better for some. Same way pes is better on teh d-pad. Will be interesting to test them both out though, Im finally comfortable with analog after forcing me and now I can choose both.

[DagsJT]

Tik, what's your PSN ID?

[Trance_Allstar]

I would say with the improved responsiveness and the extra speed/sharpness of d-pad control the d-pad could be better for some. Same way pes is better on teh d-pad. Will be interesting to test them both out though, Im finally comfortable with analog after forcing me and now I can choose both.


I use the analog stick so that dev obviously wasn't talking to me then... ;)

[Joystick]

Just played PS3 code on the EA booth at Multiplay i34.

I chatted to one of the booth staff and apparently the code they are showing is about 90% there. Kits and squads were still out of date; I played a match as Arsenal vs Portsmouth and still had the old white away kit, plus Gilberto Silva and Hleb in the team, but then this is to be expected in an early build.

The important thing here is the gameplay, and I have to say it was an impressive kick about. Speed-wise I felt it was about half way between Euro 2008 and FIFA 08, which in my book is just about right. Player movement is indeed more responsive, with even sluggish players like Senderos able to switch direction sharply, although notably less quickly than a nimble Rosicky. On the flipside, my tricky Rosicky was no match for a robust Sol Campbell in one-on-ones, who sent him flying on a number of occasions. I enjoyed the physical nature of the game and liked the fact it seems near impossible to just steamroll 'through' players when dribbling.

Passing has the power bar attached ala Euro 2008, although it is still possible to fire off a quick short pass by tapping 'X'. Overall I felt the passing game was much more responsive and I was able to stroke the ball around just inside the opposition's half with relish.

Maybe this is just me, but I felt the ball looked slightly too big. Perhaps it was just the white standing out against the darker green pitch, but it did have something of the beach ball about it. A minor though, as the physics appear to be (on first glance at least) the best in a FIFA game so far. It's hard to quantify exactly why, it just seems to bounce right and deflect of player's legs properly.

One of my major bugbears in FIFA has always been the ape-like player models and 'melted plastic' faces. I'm happy to say this has been addressed to some degree, with star players like Adebayor in particular looking very close to the real McCoy. Whether this is true of the generic faces of the lesser know players remains to be seen, but overall I feel the game is definitely a looker, with the overall lighting in the game taking a more realistic look. No more ultra-dynamic contrast between light and dark areas.

Naturally I couldn't take too much away from my brief play time, but initial impressions are that it's been tightened up in some key areas, with less reliance on fancy animations and improved response times. Really looking forward to this now, although I'll wait to see how the other modes turn out.

[Bitter Rivals]

thanks for that

keep them coming

[Lami]

Good one Joystick :)

[TikTikTikTikTik]

Tnx Joystick, great to get some previews from forum members. Speed sounds good aswell, played euro against a mate the other day and started a new MM yesterday and inbetween would feel about right comparing the two back to back.

Tik, what's your PSN ID?

Uhhhh, good question. Im not sure actually, might be tik4 or tik^4. Im sure i didnt bother with the tiktiktiktik one. Will check later and add it to my details.

[Jamezinho]

Cheers Joystick. Sounds very promising. The pace of the game sounds perfect.:TU:

[cowden_harley]

joystick what was your thoughts on GK's and the nets?

[Coopz]

yay more all important net questions ;))

[Joystick]

No worries boys, I'm working here but I'll try to get away and play again if I get the chance. Post up specific questions if you want and I'll do my best to investigate ;))

cowden: David James seemed pretty good in the game I played. The match ended 1-1 after I finally slotted an Adebayor header past him at the far post. Being the first time I'd played, I didn't create too much infront of goal to really test him, although I will say I didn't notice any cockups from either keeper.

To be honest, keepers are the kind of thing you can only really judge through extended play, but in my game they seemed pretty solid, coming out to collect crosses and coming quickly off their lines to collect loose passes etc. The goal I conceded Almunia couldn't do much about (such was the paucity of defenders I'd left to deal with Kanu :p).

Nets? Well I did notice that after their goal (a volley from close range) the ball bounced back out realistically. A nice touch I thought. I hate it when the ball just nessles in the corner, looks silly to me.

[Sollito]

Thanks a lot Joystick!

Any chance to make a video? :whistle:

[Bingham67]

Thanks for info Joystick sounds sweet. :))

Hopefully there can be a few videos done by someone :DD

[pepper63]

I regret the day i played fight night on the 360, that controller fucked me upAmen to that,my poor fucking mitts!:LOL:

[TikTikTikTikTik]

How did you find the response to headers? 08 heading was pretty static most of the time (players standing where the ball would go in advance and then jumping straight up to header the ball). Do they have more movement in air? Does it feel natural?

[evacuate]

Is it still only one-on-one headers or can two players from the same team try to head the ball? I guess it's like in 08/euro... real shit they can learn from PES in this area.

[Trance_Allstar]

Is it still only one-on-one headers or can two players from the same team try to head the ball? I guess it's like in 08/euro... real shit they can learn from PES in this area.

They might've addressed this area. Has anyone spotted a good heading duel on the videos so far?

[evacuate]

I can only remember seeing one-on-one in the middle of the field. There must have been some corner kicks in the videos that's floating around, but I can't really remember.

Edit: Looking at the 2vs2 video it looks to be only one-on-one possible exactly like in 08/euro. They need to fix this in 2010 because crosses and corner kicks are so unrealistic. It's not only in headers, but trying to clear the ball in the box more than one player should be able to try to clear it. It is so scripted now with only one from each team, it needs to be more dynamic.

[drekkard]

Joystick, thanks for the info. If you can ask any EA stuff, could you ask if you can take control of the "CPU Players" in a custom cup?

[YoungGun_UK]

Do i need to book a ticket in advance(to late now im guessing if thats the case?) or can i just turn up at the door and pay up etc?

[Bingham67]

No idea but you can buy ticket here its on until Monday.

https://secure.multiplay.co.uk/mfestival/buytickets.php?__utma=1.1853919872938613500.121829 2242.1218292242.1218292242.1&__utmb=1.9.10.1218292242&__utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1218292242.1.1.utmcsr=forums.electronicar ts.co.uk|utmccn=(referral)|utmcmd=referral|utmcct=/latest-news-announcements/324900-m-festival-tickets-won.html&__utmv=-&__utmk=175043106

[Joystick]

Thanks a lot Joystick!

Any chance to make a video? :whistle:

Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opvZji86z6Y

Sorry for low quality, this is taken off my N95 :((

It actually looks better on my phone. Is there somewhere I can upload the raw file to maybe?

[Bingham67]

Nice job low quality but certainly better then nothing cheers. :))

[Placebo]

Here you go:



It actually looks better on my phone. Is there somewhere I can upload the raw file to maybe?

If you get it to me I can mirror it up to the yinyan ;)

Email? Skype? Msn?

[Sollito]

Here you go:

----

Sorry for low quality, this is taken off my N95 :((

It actually looks better on my phone. Is there somewhere I can upload the raw file to maybe?

Lov u man!! :LOL:

Thx again! ;))

[BobbyBox]

If you get it to me I can mirror it up to the yinyan ;)

Email? Skype? Msn?

Give him a video to Mirror and he has the Eye of the Tiger!!

[Placebo]

LOL

[Joystick]

Here's the same clip on Megaupload. Prob should have done this first:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YEBJ5QUK

Runs with VLC or similar.

[Placebo]

Thanks, I just sent you a PM :)

[fantomas23]

is it possible to set specific attacking and defending options in set piece situations in 09 (or even previous fifa version? eg attacking team corner kicks - how many/specific players inside the box, halfway line defence, call up a teammate to the corner. observing from the videos, for the attacking team there are always 4 of players in the box and 3 man defence on the halfway line in a corner kick situation.

[airjoca]

Here's the same clip on Megaupload. Prob should have done this first:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YEBJ5QUK

Runs with VLC or similar.

Good job mate. :) God I want this game so bad... :(

[Placebo]

Joystick's video converted to wmv and mirrored:

http://filecoast.com/?file=433kTLBJ_FIFA09.wmv
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/7109260
http://rapidshare.de/files/40196427/FIFA09.wmv.html
http://momupload.com/files/103941/FIFA09.wmv.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/136071577/FIFA09.wmv.html

[WEtongelre]

When will we see a vid in dynamic camera? On other cameras it's the same as FIFA 08.

[Joystick]

Scratch what I said earlier about the lighting. It is better, but I just played again on a different pitch from before and some areas of the pitch are inexplicably almost pitch black, as in previous FIFAs. Could have been the TV I was playing on and/or maybe they will sort this out before release, but why do EA have such a hard on for that overly-dynamic lighting?

drekkard: Asked for you but was met by a blank stare from the booth staff. Basically he didn't know. Sorry dude.

fantomas: Not really had time to check (the que is loooooong and you get abuse for taking your time in the menus :))). I did see something on one of the loading screens about calling up an additional defender for set pieces, so sounds like that's in there.


EA are doing a competition at the booth where they're giving away prizes to the person who can score the most goals against their staff. Some kid just got destroyed 6-0. How embarrassing.

[Sollito]

Jeez... who the hell r u Placebo?! :LOL:

Thx a lot mate! ;))

Cheers.

[Sollito]

EA are doing a competition at the booth where they're giving away prizes to the person who can score the most goals against their staff. Some kid just got destroyed 6-0. How embarrassing.

:w00t: :LOL:

[Blaccat]

Didnt the guy on theFSB podcast also say the dev team prefered the ps3 controller, bcos it allows better/precise movements

[jflores]

Scratch what I said earlier about the lighting. It is better, but I just played again on a different pitch from before and some areas of the pitch are inexplicably almost pitch black, as in previous FIFAs. Could have been the TV I was playing on and/or maybe they will sort this out before release, but why do EA have such a hard on for that overly-dynamic lighting?

drekkard: Asked for you but was met by a blank stare from the booth staff. Basically he didn't know. Sorry dude.

fantomas: Not really had time to check (the que is loooooong and you get abuse for taking your time in the menus :))). I did see something on one of the loading screens about calling up an additional defender for set pieces, so sounds like that's in there.


EA are doing a competition at the booth where they're giving away prizes to the person who can score the most goals against their staff. Some kid just got destroyed 6-0. How embarrassing.

Can you ask for me if there are different camera angles suchas PES cameras?

And I'm sure the ball bounced of the net as you stated since the nets look too darn tight like a tranpolin to give that effect. Oh well..

[Bitter Rivals]

that ball looks like a beach ball?
huge!

[Lami]

EA are doing a competition at the booth where they're giving away prizes to the person who can score the most goals against their staff. Some kid just got destroyed 6-0. How embarrassing.

Thank you exploits.

[airjoca]

Scratch what I said earlier about the lighting. It is better, but I just played again on a different pitch from before and some areas of the pitch are inexplicably almost pitch black, as in previous FIFAs. Could have been the TV I was playing on and/or maybe they will sort this out before release, but why do EA have such a hard on for that overly-dynamic lighting?



I suggested this before, I think new stadiums have better lighting, previous stadiums are still the same... :(

[Jamezinho]

Joystick, can you play a game at night and report back on the night lighting in FIFA 09? It was shocking in FIFA 08 with dark patches all over the pitch, but brilliant in Euro 2008. From the night screenshots I've seen it looks like it's taken a backwards step in 09.

Your contributions are much appreciated.

[Placebo]

Jeez... who the hell r u Placebo?! :LOL:


? :(

[Lami]

Back playing UEFA CL. The game is decent, if it wasn't for the funny shooting and running with the ball like its a yoyo, but certainly fun to play. I forgot the shooting is all out manual and most of my shots well wide :lol:

Is it me or is this grass on UEFA CL better than Fifa 08?

Watching slow mo replays is real nice too.

[YoungGun_UK]

Got my tickets to go tomorrow so should get a play test :))

[Nick Cave]

? :(

I think that was a compliment as to the effort you put in here placebo... You must spend most of your life online... :LOL:

[Lami]

Got my tickets to go tomorrow so should get a play test :))

Keep us informed man.

[airjoca]

Got my tickets to go tomorrow so should get a play test :))

Do you have a decent videocam? :)

[Nick Cave]

What is there there? do we know is it just a playable old build or are they announcing or showing anything new?

[Bingham67]

No idea on build could be updated but kits etc not added and transfers so seems old build probably same as Vancouver.

But anyway its playable at booth along with competition vs EA guys think you win Wii.

No new announcements that will be Leipzig :))

[Jamezinho]

Is it me or is this grass on UEFA CL better than Fifa 08?


Agreed. Beautiful, perfect lush green pitches.

[Nick Cave]

No idea on build could be updated but kits etc not added and transfers so seems old build probably same as Vancouver.

But anyway its playable at booth along with competition vs EA guys think you win Wii.

No new announcements that will be Leipzig :))

:TU:

[Joystick]

I took a couple more vids. The first is a Tevez goal, short but better quality:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MHI69BMS


This one starts with a classic Henry goal. Longer but lower quality:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DKV7NURJ

[Terry_Butcher]

Damn where are the pics and vids of Gemma "massive Juggs" Atkinson???

[Placebo]

If anyone gets chance to ask them this, ask them about the commentary, most of what we're hearing is exactly the same as Fifa08, is that just placeholder or have they not recorded new commentary for Fifa09?

[AsterNzeyii]

Well, I hope so. I'm really fed up with the 4-year old commentary :|

[danhammer]

i thought the uefa 2008 commentary was top drawer, clive tydlesley is much better than martin tyler

[Ferraritim]

I love Tyler, I think he's much better than Tydlesley.

[reddevils]

I took a couple more vids. The first is a Tevez goal, short but better quality:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MHI69BMS


This one starts with a classic Henry goal. Longer but lower quality:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DKV7NURJ

Can you upload those on a better site? maybe no waiting ones or less waiting ones

[Placebo]

IMO both are good, the problem is with the implementation, which is pretty poor in Fifa08, some basic stuff, such as hitting a cross out of bounds and them saying it was a shot, that should simply not be happening at all.

[Placebo]

http://filecoast.com/?file=7A4hLCGm_FIFA_09_Tevez_goal.mp4
http://filecoast.com/?file=kW2AxHsv_FIFA_09_France_vs_Man_U.mp4

[Nick Cave]

IMO both are good, the problem is with the implementation, which is pretty poor in Fifa08, some basic stuff, such as hitting a cross out of bounds and them saying it was a shot, that should simply not be happening at all.

I think they should put in a lot more random and non specific stuff... This would not change from year to year and can just be added too each time...

[Nick Cave]

It's hard to tell from what we've seen but I hope the ball is a lot freer this time...

[evacuate]

Look at the Tevez goal. Only one defender can try to take the ball before Tevez. The other defender just stops even though he could have had a chance taking it but because only one player per team can try to take the ball it stops. This is so bad and EA needs to fix this unrealistic scripted shit. In real life the other defender would have thrown himself to cover a possible shot or try to tackle the ball... man this is so annoying that it's still in.

[stilts1844]

Good point. The AI shouldnt stop just because youre not controlling the player... when it switches there the player def stops... and why did it switch to a player behind the play?

[sweetkilla]

well it happens in footie games all the time... if you want the other player to pressure you have got to be holding second player pressure or they will just stand there!

have been playing PES6 today and suffers from the same problem (don't know about pes2008 as its been 5 months since i played it last)

[sweetkilla]

Good point. The AI shouldnt stop just because youre not controlling the player... when it switches there the player def stops... and why did it switch to a player behind the play?

as for the game switching it to the defender on the edge of the box instead of the 1 who should be blocking the shot it could have been he was relying heavily on assisted or he was manually changing with the analog stick and aimed the wrong direction either way if you don't want goals like tht conceder use a solid back line of 4 centre backs works well IN PES! hopefully will do in fifa 09!

[drekkard]

drekkard: Asked for you but was met by a blank stare from the booth staff. Basically he didn't know. Sorry dude.

Joystick, thank you very much for asking, really, you're doing a great job for all of us.

[Jamezinho]

as for the game switching it to the defender on the edge of the box instead of the 1 who should be blocking the shot it could have been he was relying heavily on assisted or he was manually changing with the analog stick and aimed the wrong direction either way if you don't want goals like tht conceder use a solid back line of 4 centre backs works well IN PES! hopefully will do in fifa 09!

I consider that an exploit and therefore don't use it. No-one plays with 4 Centre Backs in real life.

I remember coming up against people using this tactic online and it sure works if you're the win at all costs type.

[Sollito]

I think that was a compliment as to the effort you put in here placebo... You must spend most of your life online... :LOL:

Yes, exectaly! :-pp
You're very solicitous and dedicate to help and bring news for everyone here... :)) That's what I mean with that expression. ;))

Cheers

[sweetkilla]

I consider that an exploit and therefore don't use it. No-one plays with 4 Centre Backs in real life.

I remember coming up against people using this tactic online and it sure works if you're the win at all costs type.

Lol win at all costs claim I am a don't want to concede shitty goals type!

and in PES if you didn't set yourself with 4CB's you were vulnerable!

that may/maynot be the case in fifa 09 but I will be trying out all possibilities to keep my defense water tight! it is not an exploit the game is giving me control of what formation I want to use if I was the manager of chelsea and wanted to use 4cb's I could the fact is in real life your players don't pause! when a ball is in the box and alive and ready to be tapped in they bust their guts to try and stop it this doesn't happen in footie video games! which is why 4cb's is not an exploit but a way of having more men in the box to add as cover for rebounds and cutbacks!

an exploit (WHAT A JOKE)

[evacuate]

well it happens in footie games all the time... if you want the other player to pressure you have got to be holding second player pressure or they will just stand there!

have been playing PES6 today and suffers from the same problem (don't know about pes2008 as its been 5 months since i played it last)

The difference is that in PES more than one player per team can try to take the ball. In FIFA there is like a switch so when a player locks on to the ball no other player in that team can lock on to the ball. Konami understand that you as a player can't control every player in the team at the same time, so they make sure the AI in your own team help you out. Also more than one player per team can try to take the ball at the same time i PES (at least the old ones I just played 2008 for a very short moment).

When Tevez scored there were no chance in hell that you have time to press the shoot button to make the other defender go for the ball. And really, you should not have to do that in this kind of situation, the AI needs to help you out. As it is now the only help you get from the AI is that it somewhat position itself properly.

Lets say there is a cross for you to defend. There is a player that you control, an opponent and your teammate. You stand like this XOX where X is you and your teammate and O is a player from the other team.
If your player doesn't lock on to the ball there is pretty much no time at all to switch player and be able to position yourself better than the opponent in the short time it takes from when the cross is hit and the time you realise this. This will result in your teammate just standing there like a retard when the opponent heads the ball because your own team AI doesn't do any actions, they only position themselves (poorly). THIS is what I hate in FIFA and the reason I can't stand normal single player.

In PES they help you out but in FIFA you're on your own and the result is always unrealistic.

rant over.

[Sollito]

I took a couple more vids. The first is a Tevez goal, short but better quality:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MHI69BMS


This one starts with a classic Henry goal. Longer but lower quality:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DKV7NURJ

Thx again to bring us more videos Joystick! ;))

[profit90]

the ball still looks very floaty

[sweetkilla]

''very floaty''

I think not it seems a tad floaty but they claim to have someone who did the physics of a real ball and implemented it into the game so we will have to see for ourselves

[evacuate]

I didn't think it was very floaty in the earlier videos, but in Joysticks videos it's very floaty indeed. The first Joystick movies felt pretty sluggish too, almost like it was in slow motion.

[sweetkilla]

haven't seen them yet so if it was in response to those vids I'm sorry :P

[Dr Force]

I didn't think it was very floaty in the earlier videos, but in Joysticks videos it's very floaty indeed. The first Joystick movies felt pretty sluggish too, almost like it was in slow motion.

I agree, and if it is still floaty in the finaL build then its killed it for me.The ball lacks weight and pace and considering this is the most important part of football, then not getting this right would be a major blow.

I hate the 10 yard chips that seem to scoop up in the air and the slow or quite fast pass. What happened to zip you get in real football when in total control of the ball??

When Tevez scored I just felt nothing :-( the net made hardly any movement to a well hit shot and it just felt all flat.

I'll reserve judgement to the demo but I dont see huge improvements on 08, just a slightly quicker more responsive game.

we'll see;))

[Oli]

Exactly. It's a completely different feeling scoring in PES. The fans move around and cheer much louder, the nets buldge, and the ball feels like it has some weight. They need all that in FIFA

[BillyBoy]

I haven't seen Joystick's videos but from the other ones the first thing I spotted was that the ball did have more weight and moved quicker so I hope it stays like that.

[sweetkilla]

even a demo won't be what the full game is like! the euro 2008 and fifa 08 demo were so contrasting the fifa 08 demo didn't impress me much then the real game came out and I loved it!

the euro 2008 demo was great but the full game seemed to get rid of the ability to zip the ball quickly under pressure and score long range goals!

[Lami]

Off Adam on WENB:

I played FIFA 09 today at the i34 event. Was decent, but not the revelation people expected. The best way to describe it is Euro 2008 with collision system and being able to tackle. Not bad, but not great. If you have played FIFA 08 and EURO 2008 and still not got into the series, then FIFA 09 wont change your mind.

Expect more in the next FSB podcast, I think out Monday.


(Questions asked by members of WENB and answered by Adam)


Q: If it's more like Euro then thats a bad step for EA!
A: Well the pace is the same as FIFA 08. I liked it, but the thing is its not doing anything too different from previous versions.

So, if you like the FIFA series then this is no different. PES fans who couldnt get into the series before though wont like it.

And the build I played was newer than what Suff played.


Q: Ahh right, well i have been saying that all along going by the vids. So would you say it's just a minor update of Euro and not much of a big step up from Fifa 08?
A: Minor is harsh, but it is an evolution of Euro 2008.

The graphics are great, and the animations breathtaking. The collision system is nice, although I'm not convinced how fundamental it is. Love the new faces, Pato looks awesome ;)

But more specific details will be in the FSB podcast, so watch out for that one on Monday. And watch out for the videos that should be up tomoz.


Q: whats ronaldo torres all the big game players look like?
A: All In can say is that when I saw Ronaldo take a FK I was stunned. He has his exact stance, but you can also see him take his deep breaths! Its incredible, and lucky for you I managed to record it ;)


Q: u putting it up on f.s.b? excuse my french but thats fucking awesome man cheers
A: np,

Its gonna be on FSB tomorrow. I shot around 20 2min videos, but I think 5 of them were really good. They should all be up sometime tomorrow once Suff downscales them.


Q: classic so whats ronaldos face look like? what bout torres face and all the other big names they look good to?
A: Hit and miss really. The faces are good, but PES's are better. Thing is FIFA's are technically better because they are full 3D renders, where as PES is an image planted on a set model. The results are good for both.

Ronaldo looked ok, but Torres was spot on. A lot of the big names were well represented, but like I said PES still owns on that front.


Q: is the passing shooting better than previous fifas?
A: Passing is very samey, but the shooting has improved. Its got more impact, if you strike it well and its going towards the corner the keeper has no chance.

One-on-ones are harder now, no cheap goals. One thing I learnt is that when one-on-one its good to use the finess button.


Q: so whats the quality like on the vids u took then,mobile phone etc?
A: HD camera, but we had to downscale them. Very good quality though.


Q: Adam, does the passing have a power meter ala Euro 2008?
A: :COOL:


Q: do u think its the best fifa yet ure honest opinion,and how far do u think its of completion? can u score stunners like pes?
A: Yep best FIFA yet, but not by a huge distance. I scored two crackers with Kaka, so IMO long range shooting has been improved. And the game is about 80-90% complete.


Q: Hmm that it hasen't changed a lot, gameplay wise, could explain why that german magazine said that PES09 is better then Fifa09 in gameplay.
A: I agree, EA couldve cemented their place in as king of nextgen but I dont they will with FIFA 09. Looks nice, plays too similar to Euro 2008. And the 1 player AI is still as bad as ever, no improvement.


Q: u and suff then adam 2 diff opinions of fifa 09, from what i heard on the f.s.b podcast suff played a 5 week build and could not get off it?
A: Oh yes definitely, its down to personal taste.

Like I said, and I know I'm right on this, if you like FIFA 08 and Euro 2008 then you will love FIFA 09.

If you didnt, then FIFA 09 wont change your mind.

From the videos its clear to see the similarities to prvious versions, whats changed are mainly the visuals and new animations. The gameplay is still the core from the previous games.

I'm not saying its a bad game, I think its very good, but if Konami get the gameplay right on PES 2009 then EA wont have the market owned like they did last year.


Q: still only bout 80% complete, a lot can change with that 20% extra.
A: Not really, I said 80-90%. The gameplay will remain the same, you cant change it drastically in 1 month. But its not as if they need to, FIFA fans will love it.


Q: what bout responsivnes in fifa 09 for u much improved then?
A: Its Euro 2008 responsiveness, with improved trapping.

Ball physics decent, but again similar to previous versions. Crossing is much faster, not as balloony.


Looking forward to this game now. Release the demo already...

[Jamezinho]

Lol win at all costs claim I am a don't want to concede shitty goals type!

and in PES if you didn't set yourself with 4CB's you were vulnerable!

that may/maynot be the case in fifa 09 but I will be trying out all possibilities to keep my defense water tight! it is not an exploit the game is giving me control of what formation I want to use if I was the manager of chelsea and wanted to use 4cb's I could the fact is in real life your players don't pause! when a ball is in the box and alive and ready to be tapped in they bust their guts to try and stop it this doesn't happen in footie video games! which is why 4cb's is not an exploit but a way of having more men in the box to add as cover for rebounds and cutbacks!

an exploit (WHAT A JOKE)

It's not a joke, actually.

I used to play in the PES leagues at proevonetwork.com and 4 CBs was considered unsporting and an exploit of the game. A few people still did it but they took a lot of abuse off the other members. It's little things like this that put me off playing PES/Fifa online.

Rant over, back on topic.

[Bitter Rivals]

Q: u and suff then adam 2 diff opinions of fifa 09, from what i heard on the f.s.b podcast suff played a 5 week build and could not get off it?
A: Oh yes definitely, its down to personal taste.

Like I said, and I know I'm right on this, if you like FIFA 08 and Euro 2008 then you will love FIFA 09.

If you didnt, then FIFA 09 wont change your mind.

From the videos its clear to see the similarities to prvious versions, whats changed are mainly the visuals and new animations. The gameplay is still the core from the previous games.

I'm not saying its a bad game, I think its very good, but if Konami get the gameplay right on PES 2009 then EA wont have the market owned like they did last year.

what more can people expect, konami was only doing this every year, little tweak here and there added new animaion

fifa didn't need changing that much imo, and they have brushed up on alot of things, and with the added features that he has not mentioned

i personally think it has been a big improvement from what i have read because i remember pes only have very slight changes each build..

fifa 09 is going to be great i think

[Bingham67]

Cheers Lami looking forward to the videos. :))

[Jamezinho]

Adam and Suff seem to have quite different views on Fifa 09, although I didn't really expect a glowing review from Adam. i think he finds it really hard to give Fifa the credit it's due whereas Suff is a bit more open-minded.

[sweetkilla]

Adam and Suff seem to have quite different views on Fifa 09, although I didn't really expect a glowing review from Adam. i think he finds it really hard to give Fifa the credit it's due whereas Suff is a bit more open-minded.

Basically what I said on the topic on wenb pesfans won't admit fifa is good as will fifa fans (I am talking about hardcore fans)

[sweetkilla]

It's not a joke, actually.

I used to play in the PES leagues at proevonetwork.com and 4 CBs was considered unsporting and an exploit of the game. A few people still did it but they took a lot of abuse off the other members. It's little things like this that put me off playing PES/Fifa online.

Rant over, back on topic.

fair enough but I put my opinions across and thats how I see it :)

[Jamezinho]

It seems to me like Fifa had the game engine in place a year ago and will now subtly evolve over the few years with small improvements on gameplay each time.

Konami did this with PES for years, using the same game engine and slowly improving the game, and it was considered a good thing by the fans. It's interesting how some PES fans are now jumping on EA for doing exactly the same thing with Fifa.

I don't think anyone expected Fifa 09 to be radically different to Fifa08/Euro2008, but just the fact that the response times have been adjusted should make it a much, much better game.

[sweetkilla]

I don't want fifa to change dramatically anyway I love the game and its the whole reason I now prefer fifa! they have gone next gen Konami will have to (and that can only be good a good thing for EA as I don't think they will get it right 1st time) (just like fifa 07 was shocking)

[Jamezinho]

I don't want fifa to change dramatically anyway I love the game and its the whole reason I now prefer fifa! they have gone next gen Konami will have to (and that can only be good a good thing for EA as I don't think they will get it right 1st time) (just like fifa 07 was shocking)

Exactly. I hear a lot of people saying Konami need to release PES5 with next-gen graphics to get back to greatness. I love PES5 too, but after playing and enjoying next-gen FIFA it's all too apparent that Konami needs to design a new game engine sooner or later because PES 2008 looks and feels stiff and dated. Until they do redesign PES from the ground up I will probably steer clear. A polished PES 2008 wont cut it with me.

[Dr Force]

It seems to me like Fifa had the game engine in place a year ago and will now subtly evolve over the few years with small improvements on gameplay each time.

Konami did this with PES for years, using the same game engine and slowly improving the game, and it was considered a good thing by the fans. It's interesting how some PES fans are now jumping on EA for doing exactly the same thing with Fifa.

I don't think anyone expected Fifa 09 to be radically different to Fifa08/Euro2008, but just the fact that the response times have been adjusted should make it a much, much better game.

Difference is that Konami had the gameplay right so they could upto PES5.I am not sure EA have thier gameplay at the point of animation tweaks just yet.

I am not a PES fan nor a FIFA fan, I just had more fun with PES over a 6 year period and I want them to get back to those days which they may well do this year.

Like adam states on WENB "if you could not get into it in 08 or Euro 08 then you will not for 09 either" alas its not a massive change yet we are suggesting they are now ok to just tweak it.......not sure about that TBH.

I have'nt played it so i am hardly in a position to Judge, but what i see is what i perceived to be the case when they brought out Euro, which is now obviously FIFA 09.5/beta.

still not getting me excited and its a shame because i want it to be great.

[sweetkilla]

I am playing 09 in 10 days time! so I can see for myself whether adam is right and it is just a tweak or the game will have set them the perfect game to tweak... afterall we know fifa 08 is not that game

[gameklip]

sounds awesome. even PES fanboys are giving it props.

[Jamezinho]

We shouldn't forget Suff's opinions, too. He said he 'couldn't put Fifa 09 down' and can't play any other football game now. Adam may be right, but I get the impression he's never been a fan of Fifa 08 so he may not appreciate the subtle changes as much as those who will really give this game a lot of time.

[sweetkilla]

We shouldn't forget Suff's opinions, too. He said he 'couldn't put Fifa 09 down' and can't play any other football game now. Adam may be right, but I get the impression he's never been a fan of Fifa 08 so he may not appreciate the subtle changes a much a those who will really give this game a lot of time.

QFT

[sweetkilla]

He didnt go.

The key thing is that Suff didnt play a lot of Euro 2008, just FIFA 08. So when comparing to FIFA 08 its night and day, but Euro 2008 is very close to how FIFA 09 plays. I guess because of that he failed to make the comparison.

EA have given Konami a get out of jail card, lets hope they take it. One thing for certain though, the gameplay in PES 2009 has to be spot on because Konami wont come close to the presentation of FIFA 09. The animations in that game were breathtaking at times.

[gameklip]

my goondess, ronaldo breathing in on freekicks. be still my beating heart. good lord :drool:

[Zakov]

He didnt go.

The key thing is that Suff didnt play a lot of Euro 2008, just FIFA 08. So when comparing to FIFA 08 its night and day, but Euro 2008 is very close to how FIFA 09 plays. I guess because of that he failed to make the comparison.

EA have given Konami a get out of jail card, lets hope they take it. One thing for certain though, the gameplay in PES 2009 has to be spot on because Konami wont come close to the presentation of FIFA 09. The animations in that game were breathtaking at times.

hehe, I saw the same comment on WENB.
But thats correct, Adam did mention Suff didn't play Euro 2008 much,hence the difference in opinion, where Adam was comparing 09 to Euro08, Suff was comparing 09 with 08.
Can't wait for Leipzig now. :D

[Sollito]

Adam and Suff seem to have quite different views on Fifa 09, although I didn't really expect a glowing review from Adam. i think he finds it really hard to give Fifa the credit it's due whereas Suff is a bit more open-minded.

Where do I sign? =/

[Lami]

He didnt go.

The key thing is that Suff didnt play a lot of Euro 2008, just FIFA 08. So when comparing to FIFA 08 its night and day, but Euro 2008 is very close to how FIFA 09 plays. I guess because of that he failed to make the comparison.

EA have given Konami a get out of jail card, lets hope they take it. One thing for certain though, the gameplay in PES 2009 has to be spot on because Konami wont come close to the presentation of FIFA 09. The animations in that game were breathtaking at times.

At least put Adam's post in quote man :LOL:

Tbh I'm looking forward to fifa 09, but the only thing that has let me down is AI still being crap and single player mode won't be as fun :(( Also players still not feeling different from each other apart from speed and power i think. That kills my MM experience...

[pepper63]

Fifa09 adboards in the Brum v Sheff-utd game yesterday.

[danhammer]

love fifa 08, loved uefa 2008, will love fifa 09......bring it on!!!!

[Placebo]

Loved Fifa08, didn't much care for Uefa2008, looking forward to Fifa09.

[cowden_harley]

fifa 08 is still regularly in my drive, which is a big thing considering what games i have and woould like to complete. I'm looking forward to 09 so much.

I know it's contraversial in here but I want pes to be good this year as well. Can't get enough of football games.

[Dr Force]

fifa 08 is still regularly in my drive, which is a big thing considering what games i have and woould like to complete. I'm looking forward to 09 so much.

I know it's contraversial in here but I want pes to be good this year as well. Can't get enough of football games.

Bang on matey

I'd love them to be brilliant, all good for footy fans:DANCE:

[WILDSTER180774]

what date is Leipzig?

[Lami]

20-24 Aug.

Not much left :)

[Milanista]

I hope the trick stick isnt as easy as in Euro2008. It was too easy and people were doing the same tricks over and over again to get past players.

[BillyBoy]

Im not gonna judge either game until I have a demo of both on my PS3 hard drive and im playing them at my home on my nice HDTV. That will be the final deciding factor. But let me say something. For the first time in a decade I am looking more forward to a FIFA game than a PES game. Everything might change in a month though.

[Nick Cave]

Im not gonna judge either game until I have a demo of both on my PS3 hard drive and im playing them at my home on my nice HDTV. That will be the final deciding factor. But let me say something. For the first time in a decade I am looking more forward to a FIFA game than a PES game. Everything might change in a month though.

Same here the last few hype fests have left me a very sceptical bugger... ;))

[evacuate]

I think there must be some failure rate when you pull off a trick. Less skilled player but even those with good skills should be able to fail when doing a trick, like doing step overs and accidentally touch the ball with the foot and so on. C.Ronaldo would obviously have like 95% to pull it off but he should be able to make a mistake too.

Edit: Oh and that brings me to another thing. EVERY player should be able to TRY to do a trick. I hate the fact that in 08 where you try to do a trick and nothing happens because the player isn't skilled enough. The player should have a really high failure rate instead.

[BillyBoy]

Same here the last few hype fests have left me a very sceptical bugger... ;))

Exactly. I remeber back with PES 2008 people were saying its 'the best football game ever', 'the graphics are incredible', 'you can hear the football', 'its unbelievably smooth' and 'the nets are better than Football Kingdom'.

For FIFA 08 it was 'OMG It plays just like PES!', 'its so responsive' etc...Once you actually played it the truth was a little different.

Its not that I dont listen to opinions. I often read reviews from IGN, Eurogamer, Gamespot before purchasing a game but you also have to partly make a decision yourself because at the end of the day its the most important. :)

[Bobo21]

I understand how over the years people in this community have come to trust other reliable posters (somewhat) ;-) but there is no way ever I'm going to either buy or not buy a game based on someone else's advice.
I certainly enjoy and indeed look forward to reading the speculation and conjecture before a title is released and the analysis and appraisal from game conferences and after it's hit the shelves as well. However I've roamed this earth long enough (way longer than I care to say here) :vik: to know that ultimately there is really only one person's opinion that matters when it comes to deciding for yourself what you like and dislike (check with them in the mirror) :arrow:

[WILDSTER180774]

this is true. Everybody has different opinions to what is important in games. Pro lovers are obssesed with the gameplay over graphics debate. Personally i love the realism of the graphics/real names etc. Gameplay is a must of course. Thats why ill be buying fifa09 however good Pro2009 is this year as i know the gameplay will be excellent in Fifa plus i will have all the proper kits etc. So fed up with playing as North London in pro evo and having to wait for option files to correct it all. Used to actually enjoy doing all the editing myself but these days i just dont have the time. Roll on October the 3rd. Arsenal Vs Tottenham in my first game at the Emirates.......im dribbling over my keyboard at the prospect.

[WILDSTER180774]

http://i34.multiplay.co.uk/gallery/tags/gemmaatkinson/

link to pics of Gemma Atkinson at i34

[Terry_Butcher]

Bring it on! Gemma has two "beach balls" I'd be happy to play with. And you lot would all love to as well ;)

[Lami]

Can't see anything?

EDIT: Now i do.

[Lami]

http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/

[TikTikTikTikTik]

http://i34.multiplay.co.uk/gallery/tags/gemmaatkinson/

link to pics of Gemma Atkinson at i34

Hmmm, no pics of here bending over trying to pic up a ball, dissapointing ;)

[santiago]

http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/

HD stuff is comming! :w00t:

[TikTikTikTikTik]

Ronaldo freekick in HD now online at fsb.

[santiago]

That's awesome :D

[Lami]

This game certainly looks so good. But there are one or two things with gameplay in question.

[ThomasGOAL]

Model player look a bit better than before

[proxi]

Model player look a bit better than before
Indeed, clear indication of it now too. Cheers for the vid, to all at FSB.

[Nick Cave]

Is it just me or have they shrunk the pitch....

[Beattie]

That looks fantastic.

[Rob92]

I am yet to see a properly struck shot from distance which looks realistic, the keepers still seem to punch it back into play too much as well... :((.

The rest of the gameplay looks alright, but if the shooting and the keepers are still shit then for me that makes the game shit.

[Placebo]

Model player look a bit better than before

Glowing praise indeed.

[stahre]

Well, there is much to like but a few things that worries me as well. First, the passing is too accurate, especialy when players have their back towards the reciever. Nothing new here but I wish it was... Creates a bit of a ping-pong feeling. Second, he didn't get a red card for that tackle on Ronaldo? Not even a yellow!?

I guess the passing is going to be more realistic when you change the settings to manual passing but I heard Dave Littman (Producer of NHL 09) talked about how they have made passing much more risky and with higher failure rate when you passed behind your back. Wished that would have been implemented in Fifa as well.

[hazza10]

how do i get the hd vid? and about the gameplay, it looks like the players dont pull there leg back before the shoot

[danhammer]

they have the ronaldo free kick animation down to a Tee...the breathing effect is great

[stilts1844]

I'm a bit surprised in that question and answer that Adam said the gameplay is basically the same as Euro. Obviously I haven't played it yet but from what I've seen and heard I feel like anyone that played a lot of Euro would feel the differences a lot more. Players being able to hold off defenders, improved shooting, improved goalkeepers etc (which he both says are improved) would seem to me to be big gameplay changes, no? I wish he were a bit more specific why Pro Evo fans still wouldn't like this version, what it is about the game, ie players still aren't individual enough? As a former huge PES fan I'm interested to know what is holding the others back?

On another note one thing i think I've noticed so far is that passes seem a bit too accurate, for example even on off balance/blind passes, anyone else notice this?

[ryan437]

hmm seems to have been taking down

[juju123]

Wheather effects will be in this FIFA09 ??

[Jamezinho]

hmm seems has been taking down

Looks that way.Anyone manage to save these HD clips?

[hazza10]

I'm a bit surprised in that question and answer that Adam said the gameplay is basically the same as Euro. Obviously I haven't played it yet but from what I've seen and heard I feel like anyone that played a lot of Euro would feel the differences a lot more. Players being able to hold off defenders, improved shooting, improved goalkeepers etc (which he both says are improved) would seem to me to be big gameplay changes, no? I wish he were a bit more specific why Pro Evo fans still wouldn't like this version, what it is about the game, ie players still aren't individual enough? As a former huge PES fan I'm interested to know what is holding the others back?

On another note one thing i think I've noticed so far is that passes seem a bit too accurate, for example even on off balance/blind passes, anyone else notice this?

I think ADAM is a bit biass towards pes to say the least. I dont think he wants to admit that Fifa is on top at the moment.

[Placebo]

On another note one thing i think I've noticed so far is that passes seem a bit too accurate, for example even on off balance/blind passes, anyone else notice this?


Yeah I noticed that as well, maybe a combination of playing on Auto passing with very good players, manual passing + Sheffield Wednesday players and I'm sure I won't have that problem at all ;)

[Dr Force]

I am yet to see a properly struck shot from distance which looks realistic, the keepers still seem to punch it back into play too much as well... :((.

The rest of the gameplay looks alright, but if the shooting and the keepers are still shit then for me that makes the game shit.

I agree looks like a faster more animated Euro 2008 which i thought was a shit game.Its all still clunky looking with the ball mechanics and still too floaty.

They may have had a ball expert but its still looking weird.

Nice animation, nice graphics................has'nt FIFA always had that??

Doing nothing for me at the moment.:((

[Jamezinho]

Yep, manual passing brings the game to life, as does manual shooting, through balls etc.

[Placebo]

Looks that way.Anyone manage to save these HD clips?

Sorry my fault, was adding mirrors ;)

[Jamezinho]

Sorry my fault, was adding mirrors ;)

Nice work.:WORSHIP:

[juju123]

Wheather effects will be in this FIFA09 ??

Anyone know please ?

[Placebo]

Have you bothered to read any preview in the last 3 months?

The answer is yes.

[cb7]

I presume the game is being played with top speed option, it looks shit this way + the auto passing.

[Placebo]

Fast speed + auto passing = PES mode.
Normal/Slow speed + all manual controls = Football mode.

;)

[cb7]

Ditto.