FIFA 09 PS3/360 Discussion Thread

[gomito#10]

Exactly, I cant wait to open a "FIFA Custom Formations" thread when the game hits so we can post the right settings for each team to play the way they do in real life and also discussing ways to improve it with others. Will be like the PES editing days :)) The more i see that "Adidas Season" thing the more i think il probably end up getting it.

i just hope its implemented properly so it actually matters EDIT, i just watched the vid, looks like pressure should work

[SPMC]

that was quite a jumble of user names in that 10v10 shot.

nevermind: that was only after the goal was scored :whew:

[Tim7]

in the 2nd vid check when the ball hits the net from a rebound on 14secs.

the question of nets has been put to bed for me there. in the old game it would have popped around and twitched.
so awesome.
Great spot! The nets look awesome, the ripple is so realistic! Although he's a cunt, I can't wait to see a Ronaldo free kick fly into the net at Old Trafford on FIFA 09 :)).

[TikTikTikTikTik]

I love the look of the tactical side.

I'm going to be pausing every five minutes to make changes, that's the only thing... It's going to be like Football Manager - concede a goal, move the defence/attack slider up and create more space, score a goal, move it back and get your defenders lining up inside the box... Experimenting with the new improved player arrows sweetkilla described (e.g. get your DMs covering the space your wing-backs leave behind)... And on top of all that, I love the idea of switching the game on the day after Match of the Day is on and playing with updated stats online.

It's just so exciting.

What I did for PES was assign two formations to the tactics buttons (one all out attack and one all out defense) with the other two assign for pressure/mentality. Worked really well and was great to use when going up 1-0 and trying to hang on in the second half.

[DagsJT]

Exactly, I cant wait to open a "FIFA Custom Formations" thread when the game hits so we can post the right settings for each team to play the way they do in real life and also discussing ways to improve it with others. Will be like the PES editing days :))

That's true, It'll definately be good getting all of the teams to play the correct style :TU:

[DagsJT]

Any chance of mirroring the G4 video please? :))

[cb7]

That's true, It'll definately be good getting all of the teams to play the correct style :TU:

If it's implemented correctly it will definitely change the single player experience as well, can't wait to try this thing!

[Tim7]

Any chance of mirroring the G4 video please? :))

No. They are X Factor rejects dags, just live with it ;)).

[Placebo]

The gamekyo.com vids were great but the cameras were way off the screen, so I've cropped just the TV screen out of the video then re-encoded, they're now back on FSB with youtube links and of course direct download links :)

http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/2008/08/2-new-fifa-09-videos.html

[Placebo]

Also uploaded the G4 presentation to youtube and added direct download links :)

[adelante]

Placebo on the ball as always! (no pun intended) thanks!

[DaWolf]

The presentation looks great especially Im impressed with the volleys and the ball physics.

I just wanted to let you know that when I played the game at Leipzig I made a lovely pass with the outside of my foot between two defenders and the curl of the ball just lead it to my teammate (like you see in the video). Looked absolutely amaazing.

[proxi]

I'm up for the PS3 team, I play a mean CB, RW and DM!

[DagsJT]

The G4 video was quality, the reactions LOOK a lot better! It was also interesting to see in BAP Seasons, it looks like you can transfer teams. I was also impressed with the defenders throwing themselves in front of the ball.

Game's looking excellent so far :TU:

[Bingham67]

The presentation looks great especially Im impressed with the volleys and the ball physics.

I just wanted to let you know that when I played the game at Leipzig I made a lovely pass with the outside of my foot between two defenders and the curl of the ball just lead it to my teammate (like you see in the video). Looked absolutely amaazing.

Does it do the curl passing automatically or can you control it with button combo. ?

[Bitter Rivals]

The presentation looks great especially Im impressed with the volleys and the ball physics.

I just wanted to let you know that when I played the game at Leipzig I made a lovely pass with the outside of my foot between two defenders and the curl of the ball just lead it to my teammate (like you see in the video). Looked absolutely amaazing.

how do you add the curl or is it just random

[HALUKBAY]

Any news about the EDIT mode?
Besides the official info that the edit mode will be greatly improved.

[reddevils]

Placebo on the ball as always! (no pun intended) thanks!

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=puns :brick:

:LOL::LOL:

from the page:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/no_pun3.gif

:LOL::LOL:

[Matk]

Oh my!!!! That was the best video to date. The volley at 5:02 and the Essien goal at 6:17 was absolutely orgasmic!! The ball physics look awesome.

Okay need to go bathroom now.

[Oli]

That outside of the boot shot was cool

[DaWolf]

I did not press any additional button to add the curl. It was context sensitive as I was not facing the direction I passed the ball he uses the outside of the foot.

[jonneymendoza]

I'm up for the PS3 team, I play a mean CB, RW and DM!
we need need to compile a list of ps3 and 360 teams to represent evo web. how ironic. where in a PES forum and most of are trying to organise a BAP team for fifa :LOL:

[DagsJT]

http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=49069

Can anyone interested in the PS3 team sign up there so we can keep names?

Cheers :TU:

[WILDSTER180774]

count me in for the PS3 team!!!

that presentation video was great. Loved the outside of the boot pass down the line. The stretching from defenders to reach the ball before the strikers bang it in. Only thing that i thing is naff is those FIFA09 ads that are supposed to look 3d besides the goals. Think they look shit on tv never mind on a computer game. Take them out please EA. Other than that this game is going to blow Evo out of the water. Live season sounds promising and hope it works well. Great idea.

[TikTikTikTikTik]

Yeah those adverts look poor. Hopefully they will only be from time to time in certain stadiums, as really I would want them out full-stop but can't see that happening.

[charlievolano]

dahm man, i would have been perfect at LB for that team :| you will regret not including me :| :|

half time each then....

[janneblaffa]

is it confirmed that the edit mode will be greatly improved???

[Sugarray]

is it confirmed that the edit mode will be greatly improved???

The edit mode is the only thing i dont like in the fifa games... I wish a edit mode just like the pes.

[Coopz]

Oh my!!!! That was the best video to date. The volley at 5:02 and the Essien goal at 6:17 was absolutely orgasmic!! The ball physics look awesome.

Okay need to go bathroom now.

That outside of the boot shot was cool

What clip are you 2 talking about?

[Bitter Rivals]

presentation one http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/index.html?t=688670#688670

[jflores]

I was also impressed with the defenders throwing themselves in front of the ball.


Yes, I played the NHL 2k last night and noticed that there is a button to have the player dive/slide at the puck in an attempt to block it. Looked very cool.

[Radiation]

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/index.html?t=688670#688670

The first thing the guy says is 'we absolutely listen to what our gamers tell us' - what he fails to say is 'we choose to then ignore most of that for example savable replays and do what we want'

But holy moly.. at the 4:00 mark did i just see what i thought i saw? No not a puddy tat but the player passed the ball and then pointed ahead of himself asking for a pass back :WORSHIP:

I love the 'effort' as they say in the game - things like that really do bring the game out of the robotic AI days and make you feel like you're controlling real life players who are really giving it their all... instead of watching a pass roll past them and jogging after it.

The grass looks lovely on the ashley cole slide tackle

Lay off for free kicks is a god send - long over due as well.

The custom tactics is very nice - i wonder if that will break the way poorer teams can play as well as higher level teams - so you'll be able to pick apart the opposing teams weaknesses by pressuring them if they have a dodgy back 4 or hanging back if they have bad pace so you can counter them.

The 10 vs 10 looks a bit of a mess when the cross comes in as 4 players all run at the ball to score - why didn't any of them hang back on the edge of the box for a follow up or move to the back post just in case the cross went past everyone?

[DagsJT]

But holy moly.. at the 4:00 mark did i just see what i thought i saw? No not a puddy tat but the player passed the ball and then pointed ahead of himself asking for a pass back :WORSHIP:

That was announced AAAAAGES ago mate! :LOL: It was in the very first vids we saw ;))

Incidently, when I played 5v5, I used to loiter around the edge of the box waiting for the ball to be knocked out :))

[Placebo]

is it confirmed that the edit mode will be greatly improved???

IMO it won't be "greatly improved" at all :(

[winston]

The 10 vs 10 looks a bit of a mess when the cross comes in as 4 players all run at the ball to score - why didn't any of them hang back on the edge of the box for a follow up or move to the back post just in case the cross went past everyone?

And therein lies one of the main gameplay issues with 10v10 (and 5v5).

That's why I still think 2v2 is the best of all modes as you can develop an understanding with your one team-mate. Also, because one of you has played the cross/pass into the box, you're generally anticipating your team-mate being on the end of it so are not inclined to go for the same ball.

Perhaps if 10v10 teams get into the habit of playing together regularly, they'll develop a bit more of an understanding and play properly.

But 10v10 random people will often decend into primary school football with 20 people chasing after the ball.

[Sugarray]

IMO it won't be "greatly improved" at all :(
Thats a shame... :(
Do you know the release date of the us version?

[Radiation]

That was announced AAAAAGES ago mate! :LOL: It was in the very first vids we saw ;))

Incidently, when I played 5v5, I used to loiter around the edge of the box waiting for the ball to be knocked out :))

Ah.. ive been keeping out of this thread to avoid any of the rumours that ill get hyped about and then find out are lies.

[Placebo]

Thats a shame... :(
Do you know the release date of the us version?

14/10/2008

[jonneymendoza]

now that where organising our BAP teams, jack bauer are you going to organise our traditional 1v1 online leagues :P make one for the ps3 too :)

[Coopz]

Holy shit that video was fucking awesome

From the urgency of the players to the stretching to block/tackle and keep the ball in, outside of the foot passing and shooting look brilliant as do the collisions, 1 touch passing and shooting as well as the sliders that look like they are gonna add a whole new realistic dimension to the game

I have never seen such an impressive video

[Coopz]

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The 10 vs 10 looks a bit of a mess when the cross comes in as 4 players all run at the ball to score - why didn't any of them hang back on the edge of the box for a follow up or move to the back post just in case the cross went past everyone?

And therein lies one of the main gameplay issues with 10v10 (and 5v5).

That's why I still think 2v2 is the best of all modes as you can develop an understanding with your one team-mate. Also, because one of you has played the cross/pass into the box, you're generally anticipating your team-mate being on the end of it so are not inclined to go for the same ball.

Perhaps if 10v10 teams get into the habit of playing together regularly, they'll develop a bit more of an understanding and play properly.

But 10v10 random people will often decend into primary school football with 20 people chasing after the ball.

It all depends on who you play with, there is no point at all in playing with randoms in this mode unless your lucky enough to find a team full of players that play it properly then you add them to your friends list for the future :))

If we get a team off here it will just be like real life with players sticking to there positions, tracking back ect ect and getting a bollocking if they don't :LOL:

[WILDSTER180774]

yeah but breaking news on pesfan today was that pro evo ad boards were seen at white hart lane at the weekend.....I bet david rutter is a quivering mess. :)

[Bitter Rivals]

Holy shit that video was fucking awesome

From the urgency of the players to the stretching to block/tackle and keep the ball in, outside of the foot passing and shooting look brilliant as do the collisions, 1 touch passing and shooting as well as the sliders that look like they are gonna add a whole new realistic dimension to the game

I have never seen such an impressive video

porn?

[DagsJT]

porn?

:lmao:

[Coopz]

for a video game :))

[Bitter Rivals]

for a video game :))

yea...

i will be playing the demo until release

just hope it's longer than the euro one

[Radiation]

It all depends on who you play with, there is no point at all in playing with randoms in this mode unless your lucky enough to find a team full of players that play it properly then you add them to your friends list for the future :))

If we get a team off here it will just be like real life with players sticking to there positions, tracking back ect ect and getting a bollocking if they don't :LOL:

Honestly without patting myself on the back - i am one of the most unselfish players on fifa you will come across. If im 1 vs 1 with the keeper i would 9/10 times go wide and drag the keeper out and then pass to someone for an open net tap in than risk a shot and get nothing. I'll also hang back on corners on the edge of the box or on the far wing in case the ball zips past everyone and if i was in the box with a ball coming at me id try to knock the ball down with a passed header for someone to get a follow up shot than try and press shoot and header it at the goals.

Does anyone else hate getting 1 v 1 with the keepers or is that just me? For some reason i just can't stand getting 1 v 1.. if im losing 1-0 and have to score then ill take the chance and shoot but if im at 0-0 or im winning then i just cant stomach 1v1. I'd always prefer to set up a goal than score a goal. I must be mad.

[DagsJT]

Honestly without patting myself on the back - i am one of the most unselfish players on fifa you will come across. If im 1 vs 1 with the keeper i would 9/10 times go wide and drag the keeper out and then pass to someone for an open net tap in than risk a shot and get nothing. I'll also hang back on corners on the edge of the box or on the far wing in case the ball zips past everyone and if i was in the box with a ball coming at me id try to knock the ball down with a passed header for someone to get a follow up shot than try and press shoot and header it at the goals.

Does anyone else hate getting 1 v 1 with the keepers or is that just me? For some reason i just can't stand getting 1 v 1.. if im losing 1-0 and have to score then ill take the chance and shoot but if im at 0-0 or im winning then i just cant stomach 1v1. I'd always prefer to set up a goal than score a goal. I must be mad.

I've always enjoyed getting good crosses in, putting in a good through-ball or knocking a header down. Assisting is just as good as scoring for me as a lot of the time the finish is a lot easier than the assist was :))

[hanakuka]

[QUOTE=Radiation;1423278]Honestly without patting myself on the back - i am one of the most unselfish players on fifa you will come across. If im 1 vs 1 with the keeper i would 9/10 times go wide and drag the keeper out and then pass to someone for an open net tap in than risk a shot and get nothing. I'll also hang back on corners on the edge of the box or on the far wing in case the ball zips past everyone and if i was in the box with a ball coming at me id try to knock the ball down with a passed header for someone to get a follow up shot than try and press shoot and header it at the goals.QUOTE]

You remind me of myself I prefer to make plays than to score I find it more satisfying whipping in the perfect pass or throughball

[Tim7]

The volleys look superb!

[WILDSTER180774]

Honestly without patting myself on the back - i am one of the most unselfish players on fifa you will come across. If im 1 vs 1 with the keeper i would 9/10 times go wide and drag the keeper out and then pass to someone for an open net tap in than risk a shot and get nothing. I'll also hang back on corners on the edge of the box or on the far wing in case the ball zips past everyone and if i was in the box with a ball coming at me id try to knock the ball down with a passed header for someone to get a follow up shot than try and press shoot and header it at the goals.

Does anyone else hate getting 1 v 1 with the keepers or is that just me? For some reason i just can't stand getting 1 v 1.. if im losing 1-0 and have to score then ill take the chance and shoot but if im at 0-0 or im winning then i just cant stomach 1v1. I'd always prefer to set up a goal than score a goal. I must be mad.

so ur a cutback king are you?

[Coopz]

Im the same in real life

If i can take the goalie out the equation and leave my mate with a tap in then we all benefit and Fifa's no different

If im 1 on 1 with no support ill go for goal but if i do have support ill pass everytime

I just love the idea of 10 vs 10, if you have a good footballing brain this is as realistic as is gets because you play your player as you would do in real life

[DagsJT]

so ur a cutback king are you?

I don't think cutbacks will be a problem in FIFA 09, the defence seems to handle them a lot better. They were only annoying in 08 because the AI was useless and it was an exploit.

Plus playing 10v10, cutbacks shouldn't be an issue unless the defence aren't doing their jobs anyway ;))

[Bitter Rivals]

aslong as people play as they would in a real life game, then it could potentially be the best gamng experience i could ever have

actually 5v5 is the best gaming experience i have had (with the right people) so yea 10v10 is going to blow my socks off.

just think of the build up play and potential goals, or quick counter attacking, communication on covering a man etc etc

one twos, curled through balls

midfield battles with jostle, the crunching tackles, the sliding to keep the ball from going over the line

oh and the banter

now thats what i am talking about


..........

on the other hand, we all get the red dot or 20 people are invisible :)

[Radiation]

so ur a cutback king are you?

In an exploiting kind of way? Against the AI on 08 i guess you'd say that because i can't help the way the defence and keeper move out of space - online it won't work that way because as soon as a defender comes to me the keeper falls back to his goals (unless they hold Triangle to force the keeper out)

Although i don't purposely try to use cutbacks to exploit myself a goal. I wont run down the wing, cut a pass back and score in the far post. What i meant is lets say ive ran from the centre circle and a through ball is played square on to the keeper - ill have to shoot 1 vs 1 there because its too much of an arse to try to hold it up for a team mate and risk being flattened from behind and no red card being shown.


If the ball is played at an angle so im running towards the corner flags ill hold the ball up and whip a cross in or chipped through ball or whatever. So basically im in the same position as if i had just ran down the wing and crossed a ball in because by that time some defenders will have ran back.



When it's 1 vs 1 online i'd class the cutbacks as an exploit as the AI doesn't know what you're trying to do and wont try to stop you so i wouldn't attempt something like that over and over - but in 10 vs 10 the other team should cover the attackers and spot it coming and block it.

In an ideal world 10 vs 10 should destroy all of the exploit goals because everyone has the chance to mark a man and stop passes being made and track players. But if 1 team have all ran up for a corner and the other team counter fast and end up with 3 vs the keeper - if they use a cutback to score then id save its just tough titties.

Although we won't be able to stop any dodgy AI keeper traits.

[DagsJT]

Anyone think 10v10 will result in 7-6 scores because people wont be able to mark properly? It's hard to mark on FIFA anyway and it'll be really hard for a whole team to mark efficiently.

[WILDSTER180774]

In an exploiting kind of way? Against the AI on 08 i guess you'd say that because i can't help the way the defence and keeper move out of space - online it won't work that way because as soon as a defender comes to me the keeper falls back to his goals (unless they hold Triangle to force the keeper out)

Although i don't purposely try to use cutbacks to exploit myself a goal. I wont run down the wing, cut a pass back and score in the far post. What i meant is lets say ive ran from the centre circle and a through ball is played square on to the keeper - ill have to shoot 1 vs 1 there because its too much of an arse to try to hold it up for a team mate and risk being flattened from behind and no red card being shown.


If the ball is played at an angle so im running towards the corner flags ill hold the ball up and whip a cross in or chipped through ball or whatever. So basically im in the same position as if i had just ran down the wing and crossed a ball in because by that time some defenders will have ran back.



When it's 1 vs 1 online i'd class the cutbacks as an exploit as the AI doesn't know what you're trying to do and wont try to stop you so i wouldn't attempt something like that over and over - but in 10 vs 10 the other team should cover the attackers and spot it coming and block it.

In an ideal world 10 vs 10 should destroy all of the exploit goals because everyone has the chance to mark a man and stop passes being made and track players. But if 1 team have all ran up for a corner and the other team counter fast and end up with 3 vs the keeper - if they use a cutback to score then id save its just tough titties.

Although we won't be able to stop any dodgy AI keeper traits.

hey i was only kidding anyway! nothing wrong with the odd cutback. Its just some players abuse it to the point that thats all they do and it ruins the games for me. Id rather lose 5-0 to a player who plays football then 1-0 to a player who uses Henry to run down the wings and cutback all the bloody time.

[WILDSTER180774]

has anybody else noticed how over at pesfan the pro players have lost there sense of humour. Just been threatened by a referee who said they was gonna ban my account just coz i rubbished their breaking news of ad boards seen at white hart lane.

[cowden_harley]

can i just tsay the set of screenshots on FSB just posted look awesome. Absolutely fantastic. Can't wait to get my hands on this.

[WILDSTER180774]

great video. i want this game noooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[hanakuka]

nice vid

[Coopz]

Anyone think 10v10 will result in 7-6 scores because people wont be able to mark properly? It's hard to mark on FIFA anyway and it'll be really hard for a whole team to mark efficiently.

In Fifa 08 defending was hard because off the shitty sluggish responses. You just couldn't maneuver your players quick enough and player were past you through no fault of your own

If they have sorted that out like they said then playing in defence will be great

[WILDSTER180774]

yyeeeeesssssssssss!!!! they fixed the emirates. no grey concrete! much improved. thanx EA! im off to work a happy man.

[RockyJJP]

Any box art yet? Well for the UK version. I've seen the US box art.

[Blaccat]

Anyone think 10v10 will result in 7-6 scores because people wont be able to mark properly? It's hard to mark on FIFA anyway and it'll be really hard for a whole team to mark efficiently.
If ppl are sensible and dnt go goal hunting at ever single time the team has the ball, Thats why i like playing CM just chilling at the center circle

Ppl pls get HEADSETS, communication is key

Thats y xbl is killing psn, everyone has a headset

[jonneymendoza]

Thats y xbl is killing psn, everyone has a headset
i would like to see that being proven if ps3 users can play againts the 360 users:w00t:

[jflores]

great video. i want this game noooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Can someone please help me to view this vid. I've tried all the mirrors but keep getting errors. I am at work and very limited about what I can download.

Thanks!

[drekkard]

I remembered today something that happened 2 years ago and that I really think shows much of what have happened with fifa and pes.

I remember that a bunch of japanese PES programmers were signed by FIFA. They were the team working on ball physics and positional work as I remember.

Now my theory: these programmers were quite good doing their job and as Konami wasn't paying enough (because konami has never had the urge to invest very much in this game, and I can't understand why...) and they didn't find good replacements. That's why physics in PES have been going downwards. On the other side of the coin, FIFA was alreadxy developing its new engine for FIFA 07 and these programmers surely helped raise the level and put all his expertise and experience to the game.

I remember how at the time a lot of forum members (me included) thought that the genius was seabass and fifa was desperate to emulate pes but they wouldn't achieve it because seabass was that "miracle" man delivering magic every year...

Maybe it's all too far fetched (is that correct in english?) by me, but I think it was a symptom of what was going to happen in next-gen.

Do any of you remember about it?

[Blaccat]

i would like to see that being proven if ps3 users can play againts the 360 users:w00t:
That will never happen, Sony and microsoft will have to work together for that to happen

And that will never happen too

[jonneymendoza]

That will never happen, Sony and microsoft will have to work together for that to happen

And that will never happen too
a pitty really. why cant EA take responsibility and create there games so that u need to login to there system and use there servers etc to play the game. that way 360 and ps3 users could play together avoiding psn/LIVE:DD

[jonneymendoza]

I remembered today something that happened 2 years ago and that I really think shows much of what have happened with fifa and pes.

I remember that a bunch of japanese PES programmers were signed by FIFA. They were the team working on ball physics and positional work as I remember.

Now my theory: these programmers were quite good doing their job and as Konami wasn't paying enough (because konami has never had the urge to invest very much in this game, and I can't understand why...) and they didn't find good replacements. That's why physics in PES have been going downwards. On the other side of the coin, FIFA was alreadxy developing its new engine for FIFA 07 and these programmers surely helped raise the level and put all his expertise and experience to the game.

I remember how at the time a lot of forum members (me included) thought that the genius was seabass and fifa was desperate to emulate pes but they wouldn't achieve it because seabass was that "miracle" man delivering magic every year...

Maybe it's all too far fetched (is that correct in english?) by me, but I think it was a symptom of what was going to happen in next-gen.

Do any of you remember about it?
nope but to me seabass is not the brains behind the game. its the programmers.

[Nick Cave]

Hmmm nothing on any manager changes or additions?

The video did look very tasty, though I just can't see the "Premium" Kerrching... form thing working, it has no relevance to your games? If your striker in game is banging goals in he only has to have a form dip in real life and the very next game after scoring a double hatrick his form could drop! Not to mention how much it will be costing to do...

[Dr Force]

porn?

:LOL::DD Outstanding

[gameklip]

i just love the essien shot in that vid. amazing.

the curled passes on the floor.

the quick responses of the players. wow

is this vid old btw? http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=-SYCHjbSxgg

[hanakuka]

i would like to see that being proven if ps3 users can play againts the 360 users:w00t:

yo jonney I think he means that live is killing psn because everyone can talk to eachother psn does have a tendency to be quiet . it would be nice to call for a pass instead of hoping the other player can see your in a good position if you see what i mean.

[drekkard]

I play Euro with my bluetooth headset twice a week, and it works great. My main problems concern connection to EA Servers and times were it's almost impossible to connect to someone, being the responsability held by EA, PSN or my phone supplier, which is Telefonica Spain and it's shitty (I do get an ammount of DNF because once every two hours my connection is reseted).

[Nick Cave]

yo jonney I think he means that live is killing psn because everyone can talk to eachother psn does have a tendency to be quiet . it would be nice to call for a pass instead of hoping the other player can see your in a good position if you see what i mean.

I can hear it now nine simultaneous cries of "pass you greedy wanker"... :LOL:

[Bitter Rivals]

i just love the essien shot in that vid. amazing.

the curled passes on the floor.

the quick responses of the players. wow

is this vid old btw? http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=-SYCHjbSxgg

first time i have seen it thanks

[Oli]

yyeeeeesssssssssss!!!! they fixed the emirates. no grey concrete! much improved. thanx EA! im off to work a happy man.

Where? I saw concrete, no red boards?

[hanakuka]

I can hear it now nine simultaneous cries of "pass you greedy wanker"... :LOL:

:LOL: i hope i won't get that alot:((

[gameklip]

it was hard to get a pass off quick in fifa 08 due to response times. it's better tihis time though.

in the vid i just posted i like the dude at the end. he reminded me of that fifa with Blur's song 2 in it. i think i only bought it cause it had song 2 in it... oh for the simple days again. "WOO HOO". :D

[Nick Cave]

it was hard to get a pass off quick in fifa 08 due to response times. it's better tihis time though.


Having stuck with 08 not Euro, I'm hoping for a big improvement in this department... :-pp

[SPMC]

first time i have seen it thanks

me too, but then i guess i haven't been paying alot of attention.
:-pp

[drekkard]

he reminded me of that fifa with Blur's song 2 in it. i think i only bought it cause it had song 2 in it... oh for the simple days again. "WOO HOO". :D

I can remember the first time I watched the intro video with this song and the flags of the different countries zooming and blurring in. It was awesome by then...

[OPM]

fifa 98 i think? that's when i started with this series, it was brilliant for it's time

[Rob92]

I can remember the first time I watched the intro video with this song and the flags of the different countries zooming and blurring in. It was awesome by then...Yeah, FIFA 98, awesome game! I think it was the last good FIFA game before FIFA 08, the indoor pitch was so much fun! That needs to be reintroduced into a football game :)).

Having watched some of the recent videos, this game seems even better than I thought it was before! The custom team tactics look great - I can imagine myself pausing every few minutes to tweak them until I find the ones which perfectly suit me and/or the team I play as and then saving them to use online.

Can't wait, the days until the 11th are going to go very slowly :(.

[gameklip]

you remember the robbie williams intro fifa? which one was that? "baby it's alright. baby it's aaaariiight, it's only uuuuus". i think sol campbell was on the cover in an england kit.

*cough* judas *cough* :D

anyways, i think the g4 and making of vids i've seen today have confirmed it for me. fifa will be my game of choice ahead of that other one for this year. maybe the other surprises with a deep edit mode? i dunno. but 09 this year has really gone a long way to get in my good books with the tactics and responsiveness and the bigger selection of shots.

well done rutter and friends.

my final verdict will come when i lay my hands on the demo on September 11th.

[Coopz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4Ii6zZOSuc

The memories

[Rob92]

you remember the robbie williams intro fifa? which one was that? "baby it's alright. baby it's aaaariiight, it's only uuuuus". i think sol campbell was on the cover in an england kit.

*cough* judas *cough* :DFIFA 2000 :DD I still have the PC version of that in the CD rack next to me (along with loads of other old games).

I enjoyed that one, but looking back at it now it was rubbish :-pp I was only 8 when I played it though, and didn't care if a game was too easy or completely unrealistic like I do now.

Oh and also, this is my favorite FIFA video of all time:

yHmoTrCrdG4

Raul v Materazzi in training mode :).

[Sugarray]

Yeah, FIFA 98, awesome game! I think it was the last good FIFA game before FIFA 08

Same here ;)

[TikTikTikTikTik]

Yeah I really liked 98, fond memories.

Anyone remember the 96 intro? Was amazed when I first saw that, flying around and in a generic Wembley, as well as flying through the EA logo. :D

[FlawlessCowboy]

First time I've properly ventured into this thread. Looks like it was great timing :) after watching that Leizpig video, I am seriously excited for Fifa 09!

Bring on the demo!

[kobashi]

I'm mad hyped for Fifa. It wont be perfect but the game looks nice and at least they are trying to bring some new things to the table.

[FlawlessCowboy]

Quick question concerning the Fifa Live season. RE the free trial the guy mentions in the video, is that for one league?

So you get a free trial for a league of your choice and then you have to pay for others, that right?

I wonder if it will be a one off fee per league or a subscription?

[Rob92]

Quick question concerning the Fifa Live season. RE the free trial the guy mentions in the video, is that for one league?

So you get a free trial for a league of your choice and then you have to pay for others, that right?

I wonder if it will be a one off fee per league or a subscription?Yeah the free trial is for one of the six supported leagues, for the whole 08/09 season.

Here is the pricing for the other leagues (quoted from FIFA Soccer Blog):

"To keep each additional league up-to-date with Live Season will cost £4.99 (around €7/$7 USD), or you can choose to keep all leagues updated for £12.99 (around €20/$20 USD)."

http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/2008/08/exclusive-fifa-09-live-season-pricing.html

Personally, just having the Premier League will be fine for me because I don't follow the foreign leagues enough to warrant me paying to have it updated weekly - the winter transfer update ala FIFA 08 will be sufficient.

[danhammer]

david rutter is a legend! just seen the leipzig vid and i'm really impressed with fifa 09....this should be a truly great game

[OPM]

totally forgot about this, brilliant intro song!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WryFTIkz1WU

:DANCE:

ea are the masters of product placement and advertising! they allways pick out songs you can listen over and over, fit in with football and a video game and cover a wide range of listeners. and i allways enjoy their soundtracks, that's for sure.

[cowden_harley]

was it 98 you could attack the keeper????

[Ferraritim]

Fifa 94 for the win!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-1WOTTpois&feature=related

[gameklip]

LOL, i remember 94'. that was quality. a nice distraction from ISS deluxe... for 5minutes :D

this thread is awesome :lol:

i thin it's cause most of our fears are alleviated with fifa 09 for now... until we get it in our hands and find the hidden faults :)

[Scorpio]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-1WOTTpois&feature=related

Is that PES 2008 or PES 2009?

[The Power]

Is that PES 2008 or PES 2009?

:ZZZ:

[Rob92]

Is that PES 2008 or PES 2009?

:LOL:

[Joe]

Is that PES 2008 or PES 2009?

:LOL:

[Aboutreika18]

Is that PES 2008 or PES 2009?
:lmao:

[Cammey]

Fifa 94 for the win!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-1WOTTpois&feature=related

The scary thing is it has better ball physics than PES 2008/09 :LOL:

[Scorpio]

The scary thing is it has better ball physics than PES 2008/09 :LOL:

Hey shirt untucker don't steal my joke or I'll come over and cammey your arse... :LOL: :LOL:

[Cammey]

Hey shirt untucker don't steal my joke or I'll come over and cammey your arse... :LOL: :LOL:

Awful :LOL:

[jaygrim]

Hey shirt untucker don't steal my joke or I'll come over your arse... :LOL: :LOL:

:w00t:

[LOGANiSE]

was it 98 you could attack the keeper????

Haha yeah that was great, it was pretty easy to steal the ball from him once you got the hang of it.

[kellex]

Honestly without patting myself on the back - i am one of the most unselfish players on fifa you will come across. If im 1 vs 1 with the keeper i would 9/10 times go wide and drag the keeper out and then pass to someone for an open net tap in than risk a shot and get nothing. I'll also hang back on corners on the edge of the box or on the far wing in case the ball zips past everyone and if i was in the box with a ball coming at me id try to knock the ball down with a passed header for someone to get a follow up shot than try and press shoot and header it at the goals.

Does anyone else hate getting 1 v 1 with the keepers or is that just me? For some reason i just can't stand getting 1 v 1.. if im losing 1-0 and have to score then ill take the chance and shoot but if im at 0-0 or im winning then i just cant stomach 1v1. I'd always prefer to set up a goal than score a goal. I must be mad.

You and me are the same mate! If we played together with some poor strikers wasting averything we serve them we would be just like the arsenal :ACHOO:

[BillyBoy]

FIFA 98 indoor arena football was fooking great! Lets all request indoor matches for FIFA 2010.

[BillyBoy]

Leipzig video was great but why is the night time lighting so crap?

[sweetkilla]

they didn't tweak the contrast settings in game...

when i was at leipzig on the final day I actually tweaked those settings and the night games looked alot better! and alot more like Euro 2008 the problem is the default is not clear as day like in Euro 2008...

[BillyBoy]

Thanks for the info sweetkilla.

[jflores]

Finally saw that Leipzeig Vid and boy oh boy!!! what great animations and physics. Not to mention the sweet tactic sliders.

Wow! I love how the players realistically come back for the ball when they are being pressured by a defender. The game looks spookingly real. Amazing what fluid animations can do to a video game. It truly brings it to life in your very eyes.

If I have to watch one more Fifa09 Vid, I will go to a corner and cry for not being able to get my hands on it sooner than the demo launch.

I also want to take this time to say Happy Fifa09 Launch day to all of you fellow futbol sim freaks!!!

This truly is a great time to be alive for us Futbol sim gamers.

God bless all of you and especially EA for finally providing us a full packaged futbol beauty sim Gem that we've all been waiting for.

Now, excuse me while I go outside to build a monument for David Rutter.

;-)

[bonjovifan]

FIFA 98 indoor arena football was fooking great! Lets all request indoor matches for FIFA 2010.

I would love this, 5-a-side could be excellent online too with the walls keeping play moving nice and fast.

[stilts1844]

So since all spots have already been taken on the first xbox 360 10 v 10 team, who wants to join me on the second ;-)

Videos all look great now its all about the wait for the demo. One of the only things I'm still worried about is the accuracy of one touch passing, but i guess semi-auto will fix that :)

[TikTikTikTikTik]

they didn't tweak the contrast settings in game...

when i was at leipzig on the final day I actually tweaked those settings and the night games looked alot better! and alot more like Euro 2008 the problem is the default is not clear as day like in Euro 2008...

Will that f-up the day matches?

[FlawlessCowboy]

Yeah the free trial is for one of the six supported leagues, for the whole 08/09 season.

Here is the pricing for the other leagues (quoted from FIFA Soccer Blog):

"To keep each additional league up-to-date with Live Season will cost £4.99 (around €7/$7 USD), or you can choose to keep all leagues updated for £12.99 (around €20/$20 USD)."

http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/2008/08/exclusive-fifa-09-live-season-pricing.html

Personally, just having the Premier League will be fine for me because I don't follow the foreign leagues enough to warrant me paying to have it updated weekly - the winter transfer update ala FIFA 08 will be sufficient.

Thanks for the info. Yeah I reckon I'd just have the premier league.

I wonder what happens for players stats when you play online though, concerning this?

For example, if someone has Live Season for the La Liga and you do not, does that mean their player stats will be different? Or will it be 'one' online squad for everyone, in which case, will it be updated by Live Season or will it always be the same?

If its the latter then that will be quite poor. Seeing as I mostly play online, Live Season won't mean much to me if it doesn't affect the players I use when playing online.

[Placebo]

Will that f-up the day matches?

Don't most TVs let you set up visual profiles? Like mine has Standard/Movie/Dynamic, something else, you can set them all up to your favourite setting and it remembers, so you can just create a Day/Night profile and switch depending on what match you're playing ;)

[SPMC]

I wonder what happens for players stats when you play online though, concerning this?

For example, if someone has Live Season for the La Liga and you do not, does that mean their player stats will be different? Or will it be 'one' online squad for everyone, in which case, will it be updated by Live Season or will it always be the same?

"Q: Can I simply reset the service and get back to the stats from the start of the season?
Yes, you can reset your squads back to the same way when you first played the game. You can decide whether you want to play with the latest form, or with the default player database: offline and online. It’s your choice each time you play.

Q: Can I play against a player that doesn’t subscribe to this service?
In online matches, a gamer with Live Season can play against a gamer who doesn’t have Live Season but only the subscriber will be able to use the data for his team."

source:
http://www.fifa09.ea.com/us/readnews/entryid/25209

strange it's only on the U.S. link.

[wan_d7]

damn...from the video, i've see my future-i need to get xbox now. :LOL:

[jeblo05]

some screenshots:

PS3:

http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/z52vvcd3/fafaps3_07.jpg

http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/xevluibt/fafaps3_06.jpg

http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/j4bbl05l/fafaps3_05.jpg

http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/lc61s2g7/fafaps3_01.jpg

http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/iryzgl2/fafaps3_02.jpg

http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/yqqby8mg/fafaps3_03.jpg

http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/g23k7bs/fafaps3_04.jpg


360:

http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/1s1xw41o/fifa360_07.jpg

http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/5fecr7zr/fifa360_06.jpg

http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/6btxnjdt/fifa360_05.jpg

http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/mak2zsnb/fifa360_04.jpg

http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/97kezyef/fifa360_03.jpg

http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/6mcxc6e/fifa360_02.jpg

http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/h9q0j895/fifa360_01.jpg


source: http://ps3-talk.de/showthread.php?t=22606

[Placebo]

Posted yesterday on FSB :)

[DagsJT]

Is there more excitement about 09 than there was about 08? I think so.

[jeblo05]

Posted yesterday on FSB :)

oops, sorry

:)

and I've even double-checked before posting.

[Bitter Rivals]

Is there more excitement about 09 than there was about 08? I think so.

i recall you being really excited for 08 and then you were slagging it off in next to no time :LOL:

wonder if it will be the same this year

[DagsJT]

Well, I only really slagged off the delayed reactions, that was my only real issue.

And it does sound like that's fixed so ... happy days :DD

[sweetkilla]

FIFA 09 is 100% bigger than fifa 08

we didn't know what to expect with 08 we knew it would be decent but I didn't expect it to be as good as it was I am still playing it in August that is the 1st fifa that has lasted me a full year...


and I think 09 will be way way better and from the time I spent with it I will safely say the best footie game you will be able to buy for your PS3/360 until the next FIFA release :P unless they screw up big time and do a Konami

[Placebo]

oops, sorry

:)

and I've even double-checked before posting.

Well we might not have posted the link to the blog entry in here, we were a bit inundated with new videos yesterday! :)

[jeblo05]

...and do a Konami

to do a Konami :D

[Placebo]

Is there more excitement about 09 than there was about 08? I think so.

I think so, even though I know there will be 0 manager mode improvements I'm still really, really excited for the game, just have the nagging "EURO2008 is shite so don't base it on that please please" fear but hopefully that'll be laid to rest soon :)

[Radiation]

Well, I only really slagged off the delayed reactions, that was my only real issue.

And it does sound like that's fixed so ... happy days :DD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwPZpey9PgU

[Daniel007]

is there any mention if in edit mode you can asign a stadium to a team as hate playing in same stadium with most teams in manager mode

[Placebo]

Not been mentioned yet, I begged for it on the EA forums for a long time but don't hold your breath.

[FreMM]

The first time ever I've been more exited about the release of FIFA then PES and that's saying alot...Bye bye CONami!!!

[DaWolf]

New official video:
http://www.operationsports.com/videoview_game.php?id=500

[Placebo]

New official video:
http://www.operationsports.com/videoview_game.php?id=500

Think you'll find it was already posted as a youtube version :)

Yep here: http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1423513&postcount=1824

[Tim7]

to do a Konami :D

:LOL: I love it!

[FlawlessCowboy]

Q: Can I play against a player that doesn’t subscribe to this service?
In online matches, a gamer with Live Season can play against a gamer who doesn’t have Live Season but only the subscriber will be able to use the data for his team."



Thanks for the info SPMC, thats good news :)

[hanakuka]

australian wii cover
http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/images/NEWS2/boxart_fifa09_wii.jpg

[WILDSTER180774]

is there any pics or vids out there showing the snow conditions?

[hanakuka]

haven't seen any yet.

[WILDSTER180774]

im suprised by that as visually im sure it looks really good.

[WILDSTER180774]

Where? I saw concrete, no red boards?

at 0:44 seconds in the video of the stills on fsb they show a picture of the Emirates and the concrete has been replaced by red and white boardings with the canon.

[Dusse]

is there any pics or vids out there showing the snow conditions?

In the trailer that was released at the first day of Leipzeg there they did show the sno, I belive Rosicky had the ball for Arsenal when the snow started.;))

[janneblaffa]

at 0:44 seconds in the video of the stills on fsb they show a picture of the Emirates and the concrete has been replaced by red and white boardings with the canon.

Thats a PC pic of Emirates, not the same as the 360 or PS3 version! I think there is a diffrence between stadiums on PC and next gen...

[WILDSTER180774]

Thats a PC pic of Emirates, not the same as the 360 or PS3 version! I think there is a diffrence between stadiums on PC and next gen...

dont say that please, hope it is sorted then for ps3 version. I know its not accurate on those screenshots but it sure beats the concrete.

[Oli]

The PC/PS2 versions always had red and white boards for Emirates. I'm pretty sure it's still concrete on the next gen versions

[bummy_jab]

I hope TO GOD that the game ONLY pauses when the ball is DEAD..... The MOST annoying thing about 5vs5 is all the CRAZY pausing that goes on during the match. Now imagine what that would be like with 20 players all being able to pause the game. This really better be fixed.

[Retri]

Is there more excitement about 09 than there was about 08? I think so.

Definately, also considering that 09 is drawing a truckload of attention from the PES fans side (including myself, I've been a hardcore Winning Eleven fan for longer than a decade however I'm looking forward to FIFA this time around) whose expectations for the 2009 release were totally crushed by the terrible quality of PES latest release early builds showed at Leipzig and the likes.

I do believe a large chunk of the "core" PES userbase is now finally ready to jump ship after years of mediocre games, unkept promises, tiny sidegrades and unrewarded loyalty for that shithead that goes by the name of "Seabass" Takatsuka.

[gameklip]

lol, easy there retri!

i was like you but i jumped on fifa with 07. i think seabass will redeem himself with 2010 edition.

i'll play fifa09 in the meantime though.

[kellex]

dont say that please, hope it is sorted then for ps3 version. I know its not accurate on those screenshots but it sure beats the concrete.


GOD BLESS YOU SON :beer:

[winston]

I hope TO GOD that the game ONLY pauses when the ball is DEAD..... The MOST annoying thing about 5vs5 is all the CRAZY pausing that goes on during the match. Now imagine what that would be like with 20 players all being able to pause the game. This really better be fixed.

I put into EA a long list of such issues about the 5v5 mode, including the pausing problem. I suggested there was no legitimate reason for anyone other than captains to be able to pause the game (so they can make subs, etc).

Anyone other than captains can be pausing for only 2 reasons:
1) to change settings such as camera/controls - but frankly, they should have the courtesy to sort that out before going on-line
2) to be annoying, which I'm sure is the reason 99% of the time

I also don't understand why the match has to pause for someone to quit.

I'll be disapopinted if they haven't addressed many of the administrative issues with 5v5, such as inability to boot those turds that won't go READY in the lobby, when both teams come out in the same coloured kits, inability to substitute/boot humans who deliberately wreck matches by scoring OGs, inability to see what players/formation the captain has chosen...so many stupid things that need sorted.

[rickyricc]

Definately, also considering that 09 is drawing a truckload of attention from the PES fans side (including myself, I've been a hardcore Winning Eleven fan for longer than a decade however I'm looking forward to FIFA this time around) whose expectations for the 2009 release were totally crushed by the terrible quality of PES latest release early builds showed at Leipzig and the likes.

I do believe a large chunk of the "core" PES userbase is now finally ready to jump ship after years of mediocre games, unkept promises, tiny sidegrades and unrewarded loyalty for that shithead that goes by the name of "Seabass" Takatsuka.

Is that not the truth.. Im definatley looking forward to Fifa more than PES for the first time in a decade or so..:w00t:

[evacuate]

I think you should be able to pause the game in 10 vs 10, but it wouldn't pause the game for everyone. The game would move on and your player would just stand there on the pitch. Sure it would be annoying if a paused player got the ball but it beats pausing the game for everyone. Or they could make the player become COM while you're in pause mode. Both those solutions beats the current one.

[hanakuka]

fifa footage at about 2.45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRT21M9HYAM

[SPMC]

^ FIFA09 looks like a real broadcast game.

[gameklip]

the difference is clear.

[jflores]

Can somebody mirror that vid please. Placebo! where are you my friend!

[RockyJJP]

I actually feel sad for the PES series. I remember how it used to wipe the floor with Fifa, now how things have changed. I'm so excited for Fifa 09 and I really only think PES is worth a rent these days.

[hanakuka]

i really liked the setup and goal at 3:55

[jflores]

I actually feel sad for the PES series. I remember how it used to wipe the floor with Fifa, now how things have changed. I'm so excited for Fifa 09 and I really only think PES is worth a rent these days.

I understand your feelings my friend, but there is a first time for everything in life and this might be the year that Seabass and company ultimately meet defeat.

I sure hope valuable lessons are learned from this.

[Radiation]

The goal at the 4 min mark - Still have the stupid keepers i see who dive AFTER a ball has passed them. The keeper should have easily saved that but for some stupid reason the AI is set so he only dives at a ball that is on either side of him. So it's over the line before the trigger kicks in.

Pardon my shoddy paint drawing

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r320/KRad_bucket/fifakeepers.jpg

So if you shoot at a keeper on his line his triggers will be across the line and he will dive and stop shots. (I made a typo then and put SHITS :LOL:)

As soon as he's off his line and at an angle the trigger lines are in the back of the goals or further out from the box - so if the ball is heading to the trigger in the back of the goal he wont dive until the balls close which means it'll be over the line.

[winston]

There's part of me still wants to see something good in the PES videos that will make me think "yeah, there's just enough there to tempt me to buy it afterall". But it just looks so bad. The ball physics is terrible, the player movements so ridiculous. It hasn't always been that bad, has it? Didn't PES used to be mind-blowing?

I sincerely hope there's a PES demo. I really want to play it, even it just once, just to know what it feels like, and there's not way I'm coughing up £40 for that privilege.

But the FIFA vids just get me more and more excited. Really love the worn look of the pitch in that vid above. Shame the ball doesn't bobble more along the rough looking surface.

[gameklip]

i agree with what's been said. fifa09 doesn't look perfect (goalies and AI still look to need more tlc), but it's damn close to what i want.

PES09 in that comparison vid is not what i'm looking for. i think the main thing seabass needs to improve is the running animations. they run like they have the shits (pardon my french). we should have left that back last gen.

check out PES5 vids and i swear they have nearly the same animations. this whole system needs gutting and re-animating.

anyways, my main hope is for a more active ai on the attack in fifa. i want movement off the ball. it really shouldn't be that hard with all the processing power of next gen consoles. the new vid looks great tho.

[Placebo]

Can somebody mirror that vid please. Placebo! where are you my friend!

On it :)

[Placebo]

But it just looks so bad. The ball physics is terrible, the player movements so ridiculous. It hasn't always been that bad, has it? Didn't PES used to be mind-blowing?


I think it always used to be like it is now, difference was there was no competition so it was the first choice and we thought it was great, it's like when you look back now at SWOS or Kick Off or Player Manager and the like, in their day they were awesome, you look back now and think WTF did I really play that? That to me is PES now that it stands against EA's new engine.

[Radiation]

I think it always used to be like it is now, difference was there was no competition so it was the first choice and we thought it was great, it's like when you look back now at SWOS or Kick Off or Player Manager and the like, in their day they were awesome, you look back now and think WTF did I really play that? That to me is PES now that it stands against EA's new engine.

Then you have the people who jumped on the 'Pes is better than fifa' bandwagon and have yet to realise everyone has got off going around saying PES 08 was amazing, much better than fifa which is always the same. Or they'll say that PES is for real fans or that fifa 09 looks like it finally might give PES a run for its money.

I love reading the reviews of fifa or PES and you can clearly tell if they're a real fan of the games or just a journo who has heard PES beats fifa and fifa is always the same and so uses those lines in the review.

From the list of improvements i wanted to like this years PES - i was hoping to have 2 great football games to pick between and then i would have gone to PES this year over fifa as it would have been something new to me having skipped PES 08. But In my eyes PES hasn't got a chance.

[jflores]

Thanks Placebo, your a lifesaver. ;-)

I for one will be getting both games. I want to see and play for myself if PES2009 is worth it or not. If it's not, it will go back with the rest of my trade ins.

Regarding EA, I am just sooooo thankful at their willingness to listen to their fans and make corrections. I mean, they actually heard our cry(us net freaks that is) and fixed the nets! can you beleive this! They truly won me over with this since it showed how serious and involved they are with their fans.

I really am thankful and can't wait for the Demo.

[Radiation]

does anyone know if they've fixed the game so if you find yourself looking at an open goal a jab of the shoot button won't hoof the ball over the top of the goals 7/10 ?

I end up using the pass button most of the time to manually pass the ball into the goals but i shouldn't have to really

[Placebo]

Thanks Placebo, your a lifesaver. ;-)


Here you go:

Mirror 1 (http://rapidshare.com/files/140868232/PES2009_v_Fifa09.wmv)
Mirror 2 (http://filecoast.com/?file=wUb54hEh_PES2009_v_Fifa09.wmv)
Mirror 3 (http://evoweb.thewarppipe.net/PES2009_v_Fifa09.wmv)

[Rob92]

does anyone know if they've fixed the game so if you find yourself looking at an open goal a jab of the shoot button won't hoof the ball over the top of the goals 7/10 ?

I end up using the pass button most of the time to manually pass the ball into the goals but i shouldn't have to reallyI use finesse shots for open goals, and rarely (if ever) miss them. I suppose that's realistic - you wouldn't try and smash it with your laces at the goal when there's no keeper in it, you would instead try to carefully side-foot it into the net.

For me there is no competition this year about which football game to get out of PES or FIFA - FIFA has made huge leaps and strides forward, taking advantage of the next-gen hardware while PES has had to take backward steps to make the game play like their previous games.

2 weeks until the demo :).

[jflores]

Here you go:

Mirror 1 (http://rapidshare.com/files/140868232/PES2009_v_Fifa09.wmv)
Mirror 2 (http://filecoast.com/?file=wUb54hEh_PES2009_v_Fifa09.wmv)
Mirror 3 (http://evoweb.thewarppipe.net/PES2009_v_Fifa09.wmv)

I don't know why I get "ERROR" when I try to download off Mirror 1. Due to me being at work, I don't even have privlidges to access Mirrors 2 and 3. It's ok though, I should be home in an hour to view this juicy vid. Thanks anyhow Placebo.

[Placebo]

The problem must be your work proxy blocking these sites or something, can you tell me a site that works for you? I can upload it there :)

[evacuate]

does anyone know if they've fixed the game so if you find yourself looking at an open goal a jab of the shoot button won't hoof the ball over the top of the goals 7/10 ?

I end up using the pass button most of the time to manually pass the ball into the goals but i shouldn't have to really

The solution is manual controls. Manual shooting with finesse shot and that would never happen. I play manual and have never had the problem you're talking about.

Edit: Oh and by the way, looking at that video... PES really looks shitty. It's an 4 year old PS2 game with more polygons on the models. If they don't have a new impressive engine next year, they will be more far behind FIFA than FIFA ever was to PES. And it's not like Konami doesn't have the money to invest in a new engine. That's what is so irritating, cheap fucks.

[Wowlman]

Pro Evo 2009 doesn't actually look quite as bad as I originally thought, but fucking hell... literally, FIFA 09 looks almost real on that Youtube video, like it's been filmed with a camera.

The actual lighting and picture quality in general is so realistic it made me notice the players move slightly robot-like compared to real life... but let's face it, we're at least two consoles from perfect life-like quality. The way the players sidestep a few paces to receive the ball, the way they position their bodies for passes and shots, absolutely perfect.

[jflores]

The problem must be your work proxy blocking these sites or something, can you tell me a site that works for you? I can upload it there :)

Highly unlikely since I get the same error from my home computer. That's what's puzzling. I can view the video off the direct link with no problems from home, but if I go through the mirrors I get the Error.

It's ok though and thank you for your efforts. I should be getting off work in a few anyhow.

Later tonight, I have a game of my own with my team "United FC" at 9pm eastern time at EC Lawrence Park in Fairfax VA for any of you who are in my area, feel free to drop by and watch some real skillz in action. ;-)

[drekkard]

The solution is manual controls. Manual shooting with finesse shot and that would never happen. I play manual and have never had the problem you're talking about.


I sometimes fail (maybe 10%) empty nets when being manual because of me blatantly aiming bad. But I like this, it's my fault. Most of the time there's no problem at all.

When being in SEMI, though, I never miss. That's my experience.

[JayD]

fifa footage at about 2.45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRT21M9HYAM


Now I'm honestly not taking the piss but was that really PES 2009? And if so what gen console was it on?

[Placebo]

Now I'm honestly not taking the piss but was that really PES 2009? And if so what gen console was it on?

It's PS3.

[evacuate]

I sometimes fail (maybe 10%) empty nets when being manual because of me blatantly aiming bad. But I like this, it's my fault. Most of the time there's no problem at all.

When being in SEMI, though, I never miss. That's my experience.

I agree, it's very possible to miss by aiming badly. He was talking about shooting over the empty goal even if you just tap the button and that wont happen on manual.

I would say manual controls is the best thing ever happened to a football game. If I had to choose between manual shooting/passing/cross and 360 movement I would choose manual controls every day of the week. It's the most realistic feature ever implemented imho.

[evogerman10]

im interested in joining a team from evo-web for xbox 360. i play LAM or LW
you can see my videos to see ho i play http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmCkI68zzlk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27VdrV8fUo4

[winston]

I've only had one really bad miss in front of an open goal in FIFA08 and it was when the "momentum" thingy had clearly kicked in and our team was getting none of the luck. A team-mate played a perfect low cross to me and I had an open goal, aimed straight at it with finesse shot, and the ball went off at some weird angle and miles past the post. I actually laughed out loud it was so bad and I could see it coming because of the the cpu cheating that had been building up in favour of the opposition. Unfortunately, because it was a 5v5 on-line match, I guess my team mates must have thought I was utter shit.

But this is certainly no PES style crap where 80% of your finesse shots are scripted to balloon over the bar. What utter dross that game had become.

[hanakuka]

im interested in joining a team from evo-web for xbox 360. i play LAM or LW
you can see my videos to see ho i play http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmCkI68zzlk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27VdrV8fUo4

i can see your a decent player keep the vids coming:w00t:

[gameklip]

awesome vids man. i like that in fifa you can beat people with the tricks if they're well timed.


check out my pro evo5 vids btw. you'll like the joga bonito one below. ;))

[astirling]

check out PES5 vids and i swear they have nearly the same animations. this whole system needs gutting and re-animating.



I disagree. I honestly think that the PES5 videos look much better than PES2008

[DaWolf]

Wow great videos from Fifa 08!

[Rob92]

I disagree. I honestly think that the PES5 videos look much better than PES2008Same, I honestly think the PES5 animations are much better than PES08/09's.

[hanakuka]

awesome vids man. i like that in fifa you can beat people with the tricks if they're well timed.


check out my pro evo5 vids btw. you'll like the joga bonito one below. ;))

you got skills too you just have to transfer them to fifa now

[gameklip]

thanks man!

i've been practicing on my xbox360 vr of Fifa08. i'll try and keep up with you guys.

maybe in fifa10 they'll have 22 v 22 so i can come off the bench :lol:

[evogerman10]

thanks for the comments. also i know that the vids looks good but i think that for fifa 09 they should reassing the left trigger for somthing else because that is one of the main reasons y people have problems timing their tricks for example if you are going at full speed and try beating some one using the legovers you have to start from way back because the left trigger slows you down so if they change that tricks would be more useful and easy

[Dusse]

thanks for the comments. also i know that the vids looks good but i think that for fifa 09 they should reassing the left trigger for somthing else because that is one of the main reasons y people have problems timing their tricks for example if you are going at full speed and try beating some one using the legovers you have to start from way back because the left trigger slows you down so if they change that tricks would be more useful and easy

Controlls will be fully customizable in FIFA 09. :)
Besides I think most people here use New Alternative, with LB as the finessbutton.

[evacuate]

Isn't New Analog the controls that are similar to PES? That's what I use and though most old PES players did.

[Matk]

Yeah I switched from PES last year and I use 'NEW' (not new alternative) Controller settings because it was the closest thing to PES. What do you guys all use?

[astirling]

Nope.....new alternative.

[Placebo]

I use new alternative as well, my preference was due to how the shoulder buttons were used.

[Tim7]

I use whatever the FIFA default controls are, have done since Champions League 07 game so I'm pretty used to it now! :DD

Thanks again for the mirrors Placebo :WORSHIP:.

[FlawlessCowboy]

Classic alternative here!

[DagsJT]

New Alternative, I got used to the default controls too :))

[drekkard]

New analog, here, but most important, all MANUAL (though I sometimes, depending on the mood, play semi for shooting or passing).

That video looked class though the shooting seemed to be Auto most of the times. The tricks were really nice!

[Radiation]

thanks man!

i've been practicing on my xbox360 vr of Fifa08. i'll try and keep up with you guys.

maybe in fifa10 they'll have 22 v 22 so i can come off the bench :lol:

44 players on the pitch? :w00t:

[Placebo]

Thanks again for the mirrors Placebo :WORSHIP:.

I live to serve :)

[drekkard]

44 players on the pitch? :w00t:

Let's wait for the 20.000 vs 20.000 mode in BE A SPECTATOR. Do FINESSE SCARF moves while pressing R1, trigger buttons and right analog for TRICKY CHANTS, use the motion sensor to control your position from standing to getting up. And push triangle to eat frankfurt.

The good thing is that all 40.000 spectators would be watching our PS3 Evoweb BE A PRO team demolishing the X360 Evoweb one. I am the DMF and score all of the goals. But the game is totally annoying when all the spectators begin to pause the game for no reason.

End of story.

[Radiation]

Let's wait for the 20.000 vs 20.000 mode in BE A SPECTATOR. Do FINESSE SCARF moves while pressing R1, trigger buttons and right analog for TRICKY CHANTS, use the motion sensor to control your position from standing to getting up. And push triangle to eat frankfurt.

The good thing is that all 40.000 spectators would be watching our PS3 Evoweb BE A PRO team demolishing the X360 Evoweb one. I am the DMF and score all of the goals. But the game is totally annoying when all the spectators begin to pause the game for no reason.

End of story.

Half time mini games as well

Urinal mode where you use your motion controls to direct the stream - hit the floater someone left for you for double points - you lose points for pissing on the seat but gain double if you choose to have the seat down and miss it.

[DagsJT]

Let's wait for the 20.000 vs 20.000 mode in BE A SPECTATOR. Do FINESSE SCARF moves while pressing R1, trigger buttons and right analog for TRICKY CHANTS, use the motion sensor to control your position from standing to getting up. And push triangle to eat frankfurt.

The good thing is that all 40.000 spectators would be watching our PS3 Evoweb BE A PRO team demolishing the X360 Evoweb one. I am the DMF and score all of the goals. But the game is totally annoying when all the spectators begin to pause the game for no reason.

End of story.

:LOL:

[hanakuka]

finesse scarf moves sounds like a beat em up:LOL:

[Cammey]

Let's wait for the 20.000 vs 20.000 mode in BE A SPECTATOR. Do FINESSE SCARF moves while pressing R1, trigger buttons and right analog for TRICKY CHANTS, use the motion sensor to control your position from standing to getting up. And push triangle to eat frankfurt.

The good thing is that all 40.000 spectators would be watching our PS3 Evoweb BE A PRO team demolishing the X360 Evoweb one. I am the DMF and score all of the goals. But the game is totally annoying when all the spectators begin to pause the game for no reason.

End of story.

Brilliant :LOL:

[charlievolano]

I remember in an interview they were talking about giving people the possibility of being the commentators...i think i'd like that, who doesn't want to be a footie commentator? getting paid to travel, talk the same bs all the time and watch games for fre!!!!!!!!!

Well too bad you can't drink too much...

[JayD]

Does anyone here get the Playstation Official Magazine UK? I've been told they have reviewed FIFA 09 and given it 9/10 but I'm not in a postion to verify this so if any can that would be great. Thanks.

[jjoseca]

Does anyone here get the Playstation Official Magazine UK? I've been told they have reviewed FIFA 09 and given it 9/10 but I'm not in a postion to verify this so if any can that would be great. Thanks.


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[JayD]

jjoseca, right on cue thank you very much.

[jonneymendoza]

evening all. i really dont care what rating it gets. as long as i enjoy the game it wont matter what they say but 9/10 is pretty good though.10/10 games are very rare.

wish i could play this now :S.

i hope they fix the bap online because fifa's 08 BAP is messed up!

[cowden_harley]

good review. can't wait

[Coopz]

im interested in joining a team from evo-web for xbox 360. i play LAM or LW
you can see my videos to see ho i play http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmCkI68zzlk&feature=related


awesome vids man. i like that in fifa you can beat people with the tricks if they're well timed.

check out my pro evo5 vids btw. you'll like the joga bonito one below. ;))

The tricks in Fifa look unbelievably real if you can master them like evogerman has

I need to start practising, i already no where im goin wrong as you mentioned its because im running at full pelt trying to do them. Well that and the fact i cant remember the combos :LOL:

[Coopz]

Oh yeah now we have 10 vs 10 and maybe 11 vs 11 next year how about we add a ref mode?

1 guy is the ref on the headset and blows for fouls by pressing A and gives cards and warning with other assigned buttons

i would love to see a bad foul and tell the guy over the mic "right any more of that and you'll be taking an early shower" and him giving me grief so i send him off :))

after thats a success we can add Linos as well :LOL:

[Chris Davies]

I genuinely think being able to commentate would be fantastic. Imagine scoring an amazing goal and hearing a real person belt out emotion rather than a recording you've heard ten times before. I'd commentate all the time, it would be like watching Match of the Day every night.

You'd get some great moments as well, especially if you could rope Ron Atkinson into getting an Xbox 360. "On another night, they'd have won 2-2."

[kevano22]

I genuinely think being able to commentate would be fantastic. Imagine scoring an amazing goal and hearing a real person belt out emotion rather than a recording you've heard ten times before. I'd commentate all the time, it would be like watching Match of the Day every night.

You'd get some great moments as well, especially if you could rope Ron Atkinson into getting an Xbox 360. "On another night, they'd have won 2-2."

Followed by "NOW THATS WHAT YOU CALL A LAZY F**** N*****"

Followed by Ron Atkinsons xbox live membership has been banned.

[Radiation]

What the fuck is that Ben Wilson on about - 6/10 for fifa 08 and fifa 09 still can't beat PES?

Fucking blind fanboy - i have no doubt in my mind he only plays PES and gives it praise because he wanted to be one of the in crowd years ago when PES was king and he's too stubborn and stupid to try fifa and realise PES went backwards last year.

[hanakuka]

:LOL: ahhh poor old ronny

[Bingham67]

good review. can't wait

Not read it all yet read last page i see he was one who slated Fifa 08 last year and gave it 6/10 yet he still says that it dosnt beat PES despite 9/10 score.

This annoys me but each to there own i guess.

[hanakuka]

What the fuck is that Ben Wilson on about - 6/10 for fifa 08 and fifa 09 still can't beat PES?

Fucking blind fanboy - i have no doubt in my mind he only plays PES and gives it praise because he wanted to be one of the in crowd years ago when PES was king and he's too stubborn and stupid to try fifa and realise PES went backwards last year.

you just have to ignore people like that i have a friend who's a pes nut we played a gamed of fifa at my house and i could see that he clearly enjoyed but he turned around and said that pro evo is more life like than fifa saying that fifa players don't run properly and run too slow ie the pace of the game is unrealistic. I happened to have another friend with me who play football for our local side who told this guy that from footballers perspective fifa was more realistic but he wouldn't listen. to me that is true definition of a fanboy depriving himself of a quality gaming experience because of close mindedness oh well.

[Bingham67]

Seems people will just never let PES go despite its major flaws now imo all that PES has left going for it is player likeness and Fifa has done quite abit to improve.

In every other gameplay area Fifa just trounces on PES and this includes all i seen of Fifa 09.

PES needs new engine or it will be left behind simple as MGS has a new engine for next gen its time for PES.

[hanakuka]

i think japanese people dont mind pro evo they just find a way to get round its flaws i remember when i was younger and used to go to the arcade you would see that they learn the game /fruit machine inside out to the point where it was like a science they could walk in with 50p an walk out with 500 or complete streetfighter/vurtua striker with 50p and beat every one who challenged them at the same time. I just think they learn all the flaws in the game and naturally learn how to compensate/get round them

sorry for being long winded today.

[BillyBoy]

Great review but it looks like EA Sports League is most likely not in FIFA 09 this year.

[Radiation]

i think japanese people dont mind pro evo they just find a way to get round its flaws i remember when i was younger and used to go to the arcade you would see that they learn the game /fruit machine inside out to the point where it was like a science they could walk in with 50p an walk out with 500 or complete streetfighter/vurtua striker with 50p and beat every one who challenged them at the same time. I just think they learn all the flaws in the game and naturally learn how to compensate/get round them

sorry for being long winded today.

Do you remember the machines at the arcades that were horses races with little figures of horses and jockeys... it used to say 'place your bets nooowwww' and you'd put money on your horse. The more you bet the more you'd win.

My uncle had a pub that had one of those and he knew the order for the horses so if we were ever out at somewhere like blackpool with them and spotted one he'd watch it until he recognised the pattern and then would grab me and tell me to put a quid on blue, then yellow and then yellow again and a few minutes later id have pockets full of money.

[hanakuka]

good times

[Radiation]

ON topic... I hope next year they evolve BAP online again and let us photo our own faces into the game and take ourselves online. I think that would be great fun watching yourself run around on the pitch.

[hanakuka]

I don't know why they didnt do it this year cos I think every easports game has this feature now. Even facebreaker has it but there has been so much improvement in fifa this year that I'm willing to let it slide but yeh definately next year i hope it's in seeing as there won't be a champions league game.

[pjft]

Ummm... Is there a link for the review guys?

What do they say about the Be a Pro mode?

Best regards,

Paulo Tavares

[WILDSTER180774]

I don't know why they didnt do it this year cos I think every easports game has this feature now. Even facebreaker has it but there has been so much improvement in fifa this year that I'm willing to let it slide but yeh definately next year i hope it's in seeing as there won't be a champions league game.

i think i remember david rutter saying it was something they was considering for next year. I suppose there is only so much even EA can do in a year.

Great review. The live season wasnt mentioned either so doesnt mean that the Sports League wont be in. How biased is that evo fan boy at the end. I saw the PSM3 on the shelf in Morrisons earlier. Has anybody read it and did they give it a score?

[WILDSTER180774]

Ummm... Is there a link for the review guys?

What do they say about the Be a Pro mode?

Best regards,

Paulo Tavares

its on the previous page mate

[Jamezinho]

So the reviewer gives the game a 9/10 and then says it's still not a PES-beater?

Is he going to give 10/10 to a game he has not reviewed yet?:THINK:

[Matk]

So the reviewer gives the game a 9/10 and then says it's still not a PES-beater?

Is he going to give 10/10 to a game he has not reviewed yet?:THINK:

Not the reviewer, Ben Wilson who had the second opinion. The reviewer said PES had some catching up to do.

[Jamezinho]

Ah, I see.

It will be interesting to see what PES 2009 gets.

[WILDSTER180774]

the actual reviewer says that pes has to play catch up now. It was Ben Wilson who is obviously deluded said pro was the better game.

[Bingham67]

Oops i just read writing that will teach me but still my thoughts on PES still stand.

[Matk]

Ah, I see.

It will be interesting to see what PES 2009 gets.

Well knowing PSM3 they will naturally give PES2009 a 10 no matter how good/bad it is - they will have to give it a higher score than Fifa 09 because they are one of the sponsors in the PES series.

[BobbyBox]

I can't believe he gave Fifa '08 a 6/10 - How can anybody take that guy seriously again? He still trys to justify it aswell :ROLL:

[WILDSTER180774]

i suppose it just goes to show that even the proffesional games reviewers have massive different opinions to each other as well as us players so the proof will be when we get to play it ourselves. The only concern i have now is that this game cannot possibly live up to the hype now created. Im not going to expect a game without any flaws thats for sure. Hope ppl keep that in mind.

[hanakuka]

off topic but just downloaded the nhl demo and it was pretty decent i got into a fight aswell and won just learning how to play the game cos i dont get no online option though shame i was hoping i would get a taster of the 9v9 oh well

[Jamezinho]

I can't believe he gave Fifa '08 a 6/10 - How can anybody take that guy seriously again? He still trys to justify it aswell :ROLL:

He gave it a 6/10 just because he didn't like the shooting and you couldn't beat a man without using skills.

We all know that is crap. Shooting on 08 is decent, especially using finesse shots. It is a bit balloony, but not as bad as he makes out. In PES 08 you could score from range with star players with ease.

Secondly, you can beat a man easily in 08. Maybe a little too easily, as you can run straight past defenders in the right situation. In PES 08 you could skip past a whole team.

So, to mark a game down to a 6 based on these untruths is wrong. Let's face it, PES2008 was pretty much a broken game, yet they still scored it higher for some reason.

[pjft]

I swear that I don't see it in jjoseca's post, even though I'd assume that it would be there because of the posts.

Still, I found it somewhere else.

Thanks anyway! Looking forward to the demo.

Best regards,

Paulo Tavares

[BwA Spectre]

That 2nd opinion guy is ajoke! 6/10 for fifa 08? LOL! There will be people who, no matter how disappointed they are deep down inside with PES, will give it 9's. Deep down they are hurting but cannot let their emotions show, then they rate each PES iteration as "the best", and so on. It's quite pathetic. I played both PES 2008 and Fifa 2008 and rate PES a 6/10 and Fifa an 8.3/10. I predicted 9's for Fifa 2009 and so far, so good. There will be some who give it obvious biased reviews (ign, which I predict will give it from a 7.5 - 8.0).

Anyway, Im waiting till the day that Konami burn a copy of Atari 5200 soccer and package that as PES 2010. Then you'd hear all the "it's amazing" reviews. LOL! Some people are a riot.

[Ratinho]

Yeah, some people know how big a PES fan boy i've been on these and the other forums around for about 8 years now, but you can't really argue with how good Fifa is right now.

Fifa 08 was noticeably better than PES 2008, and it looks like Fifa is only getting better.

I want PES to step it's game up, but it doesn't seem that likely right now.

[WILDSTER180774]

That 2nd opinion guy is ajoke! 6/10 for fifa 08? LOL! There will be people who, no matter how disappointed they are deep down inside with PES, will give it 9's. Deep down they are hurting but cannot let their emotions show, then they rate each PES iteration as "the best", and so on. It's quite pathetic. I played both PES 2008 and Fifa 2008 and rate PES a 6/10 and Fifa an 8.3/10. I predicted 9's for Fifa 2009 and so far, so good. There will be some who give it obvious biased reviews (ign, which I predict will give it from a 7.5 - 8.0).

Anyway, Im waiting till the day that Konami burn a copy of Atari 5200 soccer and package that as PES 2010. Then you'd hear all the "it's amazing" reviews. LOL! Some people are a riot.

i agree. these ppl would earn respect for actually telling the truth but instead they tarnish their and their mags reputations by giving this biased and propaganda rubbish. Im not a fifa or evo fan boy. I play whats the best out there and recently that has been pro, most would agree but the past 12 months there has been a universal switch by most. I switched with euro 2008 whicch im still enjoying and from everything i have gathered, fifa09 is going to be, by far the best footie game ever produced.

[BobbyBox]

i suppose it just goes to show that even the proffesional games reviewers have massive different opinions to each other as well as us players so the proof will be when we get to play it ourselves. The only concern i have now is that this game cannot possibly live up to the hype now created. Im not going to expect a game without any flaws thats for sure. Hope ppl keep that in mind.

It's true - It could all feel shit when we actually play it.

But reviews like the one scanned above and what other people have been saying leaves me with good hopes :DD

Fingers crossed It is all as good as people have been saying.

[Coopz]

As long as the flaws aint like a certain way to round the goalie or a certain angle and you will score then it should be ok

them and bad touches from defenders who control it 10 miles away from them and get robbed of the ball

[WILDSTER180774]

It's true - It could all feel shit when we actually play it.

But reviews like the one scanned above and what other people have been saying leaves me with good hopes :DD

Fingers crossed It is all as good as people have been saying.

there is no doubt this is going to be a great game. But it wont be perfect. I can live with that. I keep thinking what it is gonna feel like when i load this bad boy up for the first time, go to team select and choose Arsenal Vs Spurs. Then see the teams walk out on the Emirates. Come on EA, release this sucker early....i dare you!