FIFA 09 PS3/360 Discussion Thread

[brunnoce]

It looks worse to release such a buggy update than take an extra day to tidy up though, surely?

i dont know from where u came up with the idea that it was a 1 day solution thing...we really dont know what would take to fix that.

ive learned that in video games development if u think something is easy to do, its problaby more complicated than u think. :LOL:

[Placebo]

yup, i just added one of them and said whatever. it sucks though, theres a bunch of the scrambled stats guys.

Yeah I did the same, it worries me that we'll put in all this effort before starting our manager mode then either 1. the DB is so corrupt MM crashed or 2. in a week or two EA release another update and we have to start all over again :(

I'm taking pics with my phone of all errors I'm seeing to pass on to EA in the hopes they can do something about it, I haven't started a thread on the EA forums as it will all likelihood cause absolute hysteria.

[shorty alien]

Hi guys, how do you use the update offline? I downloaded and saved it, but it only loads for ranked matches, when you go back to offline the old squads load back up.

[Placebo]

Hi guys, how do you use the update offline? I downloaded and saved it, but it only loads for ranked matches, when you go back to offline the old squads load back up.

You could read the previous page or here: http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/2009/02/fifa-09-data-update-get-it-now.html

[shorty alien]

Sorry, I wanted to delete my post as I'd just seen the fifasoccerblog thing and the page before, cheers anyway.

[Placebo]

http://www.gamespot.com/sports/blogs/sports-blog/909097139/26775656/an-exclusive-look-at-fifa-09s-ultimate-team-mode.html

So it's basically cut and paste from UCL with some building on, and it'll be $14.99 if I read that right.

Won't be getting it personally, as I just posted on the EA internal forums "wish instead it was manager mode copied and pasted out of Fifa Manager, I would gladly pay $50 for that easy.........."

Gametrailers.com - FIFA Soccer 09 - Ultimate Team Debut Trailer HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/45346.html)

[aitk3n]

Wtf?

lame. this is what is best fifa can do? this is just a money grabber now..

[Phat J 22]

just dled a second update..whats that all about?

also when i do that als thing does it save the squads as my complete default squads or do i have to load them from the squad menu every time?

[Nick Cave]

Placebo how can I edit all the team formations and save them, you can't edit the defaults...?

[nerf]

A card game? Jesus. :FAIL:

I haven't downloaded the data update yet, these errors that people are seeing are a little off-putting at the moment.

[Placebo]

Sorry if this has been spoken about elsewhere, but I can't see many appearence updates for players. I don't have access to a decent Internet speed so can't get it. But I was at my mates and players like Rooney and Messi haven't been corrected.

Was this update only for transfers or did EA forget to update certain players?

Thanks

Many players have had their appearances changed, I guess these Rooney and Messi guys aren't too important, I've seen plenty of League 1/Championship teams with improved appearances :)

[DagsJT]

Apparantly there's been only one change in the Liverpool squad, with Riera going up by two points. I'd have thought the Prem teams would've been adjusted quite well.

[Placebo]

Are you sure? That seems very unlikely to me, have you looked yourself?

[DagsJT]

Haven't had a chance to update my game yet but I'll write down the stats pre-update and see.

On another note, I got my copy second-hand. If the person who had it before me has used the code off the manual, can I still use it?

[Placebo]

Placebo how can I edit all the team formations and save them, you can't edit the defaults...?

You have to edit the default formation, then save as a custom formation, then assign that formation to the team, unfortunately you only have slots for 30 custom formations, so what I've done is edit all Prem teams plus the best of the Championship teams (+ Sheff Utd so the derby is harder), that took up 26 of my slots and I have 4 left over to use for my own tactics :)

A card game? Jesus. :FAIL:

I haven't downloaded the data update yet, these errors that people are seeing are a little off-putting at the moment.

Well I believe I've identified the cause of the ones we're finding by searching for free transfers, it's players that are no longer in the national teams, somehow there's a fragment of them left behind in the DB which is what's showing up when we search for them.

I am still finding more duplicates when I search which is a bit worrying, for example:

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t33/statham_sg/Dupe_01.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t33/statham_sg/Dupe_02.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t33/statham_sg/Dupe_03.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t33/statham_sg/Dupe_04.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t33/statham_sg/Dupe_05.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t33/statham_sg/Dupe_06.jpg

Sorry for the shit quality but you can figure out who is who.......

And some more samples of the countless corrupt players:

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t33/statham_sg/th_img127.jpg (http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t33/statham_sg/?action=view&current=img127.jpg)
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t33/statham_sg/th_img129.jpg (http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t33/statham_sg/?action=view&current=img129.jpg)
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t33/statham_sg/th_img143.jpg (http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t33/statham_sg/?action=view&current=img143.jpg)
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t33/statham_sg/th_img147.jpg (http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t33/statham_sg/?action=view&current=img147.jpg)

[Placebo]

Haven't had a chance to update my game yet but I'll write down the stats pre-update and see.

On another note, I got my copy second-hand. If the person who had it before me has used the code off the manual, can I still use it?

If you have any stats on hand (for example of players you expect to have been changed either up/down) I can easily check if anything changed.

And yes you will be fine, I read that everyone has the same ALS free code (it's even being actively shared on the EA forums now), I tested myself and it seems it's 1 use per gamertag, not 1 use only per console.

[DagsJT]

Cheers mate.

I'll check the Liverpool stats when I get home later. Can't really remember any stats either.

Any news on EA releasing a fixed roster update?

[brunnoce]

Apparantly there's been only one change in the Liverpool squad, with Riera going up by two points. I'd have thought the Prem teams would've been adjusted quite well.

Everton got tweaked a lot imo
YAkubu is no more that super Striker he was, arteta improved , Jagielka is quite improved, fellaini seems faster although his overall didnt change and jo got beaten down too...
the tatics are updated too, looks nice!

[Nick Cave]

Cheers placebo I guessed that was the only way round it... I hope they release another update to fix the dupes...

[Placebo]

Any news on EA releasing a fixed roster update?

I hope they release another update to fix the dupes...

Unless the 8 billion 12 year old ManUre supporting, yellow boot ranting Cronaldo fans kick up a big stink on the EA forums I don't see it happening.

So far it doesn't seem to have been raised on there.

[andish2001]

Jack I have those issues as well with the freezing and music going off whenever anything saves. Do you have the game installed to the hard drive? what hard drive do you have? I believe its to do with the 360 trying to write the save and read all the data for the game at the same time. Im using a 2nd hand 60gb hard drive so maybe its just got poor performance. What hard drive are you using?

[Chris Davies]

I'm using the official 120gb drive. Really annoying because it wasn't happening before the update and clearing the hard drive cache has made it worse if anything...

[Placebo]

I'm using a cloned WD Bevs drive and have no issues about slow saving :(

[PESV]

Hi guys,

Need to make a rectification. A while earlier I complained about F09's framerate issues. Recently I took the game to my mates house who has a samsung hd ready tv, just like me only a newer type, and there was no difference between HD and scart mode. Bot played very smooth. So it seems that it was my TV all the way around. Not the game, not the hd cable, but the TV. Never knew that was possible. At least now I know why you all ignored my comments :)

[Placebo]

No it was because you have PES in your username ;)

[velvetsky01]

how do you get the new update? nothing has popped up

[CW]

Delete the squads you have in game right now and then go to play a game online or download the ALS

[BobbyBox]

how do you get the new update? nothing has popped up

http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/2009/0...et-it-now.html

There you go

Edit: it doesn't work :SHOCK:

Download the Adidas live season update.

If you haven't got it turned on - turn it on - download the update and turn it off again.

Also I think it prompts you when you go online to download squad file - but I haven't been online yet.

[velvetsky01]

what if you dont have xbox live?

Also has there been any other update? or is it just a DATA update

[shorty alien]

The strange thing is I used the free trial for addidas live season and downloaded an update. The stats were different to the online update that you use when playing ranked matches. Eg gallas was 89 online and this als thing was 79. Song was 72 online and als was 69. Vela was 75 online and als was 72. Bent was 74 online als was 84.

This didn't match up to what is the supposed update so I reset all squads and downloaded the latest update option in the als menu. Now the stats do match up. I'm guessing the als thing was the last als update, but the REAL full update you have to download again.

[BobbyBox]

what if you dont have xbox live?

Also has there been any other update? or is it just a DATA update

Kill yourself!

If you don't have live then you can't download anything. No sure how it works with a silver membership, which is free?

[AK.Rabona]

Many players have had their appearances changed, I guess these Rooney and Messi guys aren't too important, I've seen plenty of League 1/Championship teams with improved appearances :)

Well, at least Marco Aurelio isn't yellow anymore he actually looks Brazilian. I haven't checked Van Bommel yet. He looked very tanned and darker than most other people on the field.

[velvetsky01]

Kill yourself!

If you don't have live then you can't download anything. No sure how it works with a silver membership, which is free?

well iv got the sliver membership but how everyone is talking you need to start a ranked match which i cant do without having the gold one! - i think il have to get it again. I normally play the PS3 version but my bro got it 4 his xbox and i prefer that version

is there a new "main" update with this data one? i saw on the new thing in the game that the MM has been updated too with improved squad numbering?

[Placebo]

LOL

[velvetsky01]

LOL

??

[vondave]

Is Cantona right footed?

My one request for them to change!

[Aboutreika18]

Yeah, I noticed that as well. Cantona is DEFINITELY right footed.

[brunnoce]

I'm using the official 120gb drive. Really annoying because it wasn't happening before the update and clearing the hard drive cache has made it worse if anything...

i had this too while editing players...make sure u use the 1st file , like if ure doing a manager mode make sure ure using "manager mode1" file, i did this with my squads files and its working perfectly again.

;)

[Phat J 22]

Is Cantona right footed?

My one request for them to change!

just go in and change his preferred foot yourself, thats what i did.

[Disqo]

what if you dont have xbox live?

Also has there been any other update? or is it just a DATA update

You.........dont have xbox live?.......[face_confused]

[Chris Davies]

I know this has been touched on before but I can't find the posts referring to it... Can anyone please help me?

I've been playing a co-op manager mode game since November with TT and we're up to our fifth season. Our second game is against Chelsea and no matter what we do (play it, simulate it or start then quit it), the game comes to the "SIMULATING..." screen and crashes the Xbox.

Is there any way around it, anything at all? I vaguely remember someone saying they fixed it by starting the match then quitting it but that hasn't worked, and it's (to put it lightly) fucking annoying! Four months' hard work!

[wan_d7]

CB,i got the same problem,and never found a way to get through it. been facing this problem before when i playing FIFA08 on pc. i thought it's only on PC,never thought on console it also happen. in the end i just gave up,and starting a new MM. T.T

[DevilRay81]

can anyone upload the winter update for 360 in xport format???

i havent online but i have the data migration cable.

Thx

[Aboutreika18]

I know this has been touched on before but I can't find the posts referring to it... Can anyone please help me?

I've been playing a co-op manager mode game since November with TT and we're up to our fifth season. Our second game is against Chelsea and no matter what we do (play it, simulate it or start then quit it), the game comes to the "SIMULATING..." screen and crashes the Xbox.

Is there any way around it, anything at all? I vaguely remember someone saying they fixed it by starting the match then quitting it but that hasn't worked, and it's (to put it lightly) fucking annoying! Four months' hard work!
Happened to me as well. I don't think there is any way around it.

[Nick Cave]

I hope it's a 360 only thing, I have never had it on PS3...

[Placebo]

Never had an MM crash so far, but then I've never played a Co-Op MM.

[Chris Davies]

Definitely not related to co-op, just google "FIFA 09 manager crashes simulating". Plenty of talk about it, same on the official FIFA forum as well, but all that's been said is "reset the squads and start a new game".

It happens on PS3 as well Nick, various links but this is one of the first in that Google search: CLICK (http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/360006-manager-mode-simulation-hanging-ps3.html)

[Placebo]

Yeah I've read about it crashing with SP MM, I just hope it doesn't happen to me :(

[Phat J 22]

it happened to me too, only 4 seasons in though plus with the update coming out it definitely lessened the blow.

[Machines]

Wow, that really is a revolution. I fear this thread is about to go haywire!! All hail bluechampblogger!!

I know I'm a bit late to the party, but I just found these settings this past weekend and FIFA 09 feels like a new game to me. Absolutely LOVE it. This is how the game should have been, in my opinion. I like the ability to actually create build up play and feel good about it. Been playing with some friends and we all agree that it's how the game should be played.

EA doesnt do sliders as well as 2k, i think tis a good idea but somehow they will fuck it up

Agreed, but they try and the ones they implemented for NBA Live this year actually weren't too bad. Heck, all they'd have to do to keep bluchampblogger's settings available is create global sliders for each attribute. Shouldn't be that hard.

It's nice to see that they are listening to the fan feedback in regards to these settings. Here's hoping there's something that we requires a lot less editing in it for us in FIFA 10!

[DagsJT]

That muppet on the EA Forums complaining about the Liverpool stats was wrong. Checked the stats pre-update and post-update and most players have changed, with new players added to the squad as well.

[Placebo]

I tried to tell you......

You should always ignore something some random poster says on their, bunch of whiny little kids.

[DagsJT]

Anyone done the achievement of winning a tournament with a 1-star team? Some great games in there and I'm seeing loads of different styles of play due to having some 5-star teams and some 1-star teams in there :)

[vondave]

You cant edit the classic players so cant make cantona right footed. The one thing i requested. tut. oh well i think the update is good though

[Placebo]

People actually care? They don't look like the classic players, they don't play like the classic players, not worth bothering with IMO.

[Shazam!]

That muppet on the EA Forums complaining about the Liverpool stats was wrong. Checked the stats pre-update and post-update and most players have changed, with new players added to the squad as well.Which players have been added? I've not had a proper look yet.

[Chris Davies]

Tons of youth players, plus loans have been updated so Antwi (who was at Tranmere) is back at Liverpool now.

[DagsJT]

As Chris said, mainly youth players. And quite a few at that.

Off-topic, but how did Antwi do, Chris?

[Chris Davies]

He was a bit dodgy at the start but towards the end of his loan he was decent, he's got energy and he can close people down back and forth. Shame he's gone back, would have been handy to keep him a bit longer.

[Jumbo_]

Anyone done the achievement of winning a tournament with a 1-star team? Some great games in there and I'm seeing loads of different styles of play due to having some 5-star teams and some 1-star teams in there :)

I just did a Johnstone's Paint Trophy with Peterbrough and won that :BOP:

[Tim7]

People actually care? They don't look like the classic players, they don't play like the classic players, not worth bothering with IMO.
It seems like anything you aren't interested in isn't worth bothering with :LOL:.

[Jumbo_]

It's true though the classic players are a waste of time.

[jflores]

It seems like anything you aren't interested in isn't worth bothering with :LOL:.

Dude, I absolutaley love your avatar. Looks like a real match pic. PS3 version?

[Placebo]

It seems like anything you aren't interested in isn't worth bothering with :LOL:.

Why would I bother with something that doesn't interest me?

For fucks sake boy operate your brain before your mouth, you're getting worse than jonnymendoza! ;)

[Placebo]

Just played my first match against an opponent that had an edited formation (ie 2 CB's pulled back to the goalkeeper), first defeat after winning my first 10 matches of the season, 3-1 away to Wolves, pretty good sign, definitely had far less 1on1's than against unedited formation opponents, just a shame I could only edit 6 of the 23 Championship teams.

[WILDSTER180774]

new game mode coming to fifa09...check out fifasoccerblog.com

[Placebo]

Yes we know, old news, try searching first.........

[Coopz]

Placebo is there anyway you can find out why the Camera goes back to default every time you play a Clubs match and how to stop it?

Ta

[Placebo]

Placebo is there anyway you can find out why the Camera goes back to default every time you play a Clubs match and how to stop it?

Ta

I only play MM.

[Phat J 22]

Placebo is there anyway you can find out why the Camera goes back to default every time you play a Clubs match and how to stop it?

Ta

happens to me too with BAP matches. if you figure out how to fix it can you post it here?

[Leo]

happens to me too with BAP matches. if you figure out how to fix it can you post it here?

Seems like I'm not the only one with this problem then. Hopefully someone knows a work-around.

[YoungGun_UK]

Its a problem everyone has, just a bug EA havnt looked at.

[quiet_riot]

I've never had that problem...my tele cam with a slight high angle is present in all my games.

[luke909]

I get this too, always zooms back in despite the settings clearly being zoomed out as far as possible.

[Phat J 22]

sort of turns me off bap matches..they used to be my favourite mode in 08.

[Tim7]

Dude, I absolutaley love your avatar. Looks like a real match pic. PS3 version?
Xbox 360 version mate.


Why would I bother with something that doesn't interest me?
The world doesn't revolve around you my man ;)). Just because you don't like something doesn't mean that other's have to as well.

[Nick Cave]

Just played my first match against an opponent that had an edited formation (ie 2 CB's pulled back to the goalkeeper), first defeat after winning my first 10 matches of the season, 3-1 away to Wolves, pretty good sign, definitely had far less 1on1's than against unedited formation opponents, just a shame I could only edit 6 of the 23 Championship teams.
Going to go through and edit starting line ups Placebo, have you done this and do they stick past the first game...

[Jumbo_]

I dont have the cam problem, it's always on whatever the last setting I used was, no matter if I'm playing online or off.

[Placebo]

Going to go through and edit starting line ups Placebo, have you done this and do they stick past the first game...

Well I'm not up to the point in my season where I'm meeting teams for the second time (nor have I played any Prem teams in cups), but each time I meet one of the Championship teams I edited (Wolves and Reading being the first two), it shows the name of their edited formation on the pre match screen where it lists their 3 best/worst players, on the left side where it shows the formation underneath it says "Custom 18 442" or whatever, and you can see the CBs are pulled right back to the keeper in the 2d drawing. Plus in the match screens you can see the same thing.

[Nick Cave]

Well I'm not up to the point in my season where I'm meeting teams for the second time (nor have I played any Prem teams in cups), but each time I meet one of the Championship teams I edited (Wolves and Reading being the first two), it shows the name of their edited formation on the pre match screen where it lists their 3 best/worst players, on the left side where it shows the formation underneath it says "Custom 18 442" or whatever, and you can see the CBs are pulled right back to the keeper in the 2d drawing. Plus in the match screens you can see the same thing.

:TU:

[daveyc17]

http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/2009/0...et-it-now.html

There you go

Edit: it doesn't work :SHOCK:

Download the Adidas live season update.

If you haven't got it turned on - turn it on - download the update and turn it off again.

Also I think it prompts you when you go online to download squad file - but I haven't been online yet.

How do you turn it off again?

[BobbyBox]

How do you turn it off again?

Can't remember off the top of my head.

But it is in the advance settings. you just scroll along the shoulder buttons to get to the live season bit in the advance settings and then you can turn it off.

[Ozkar]

Well I'm not up to the point in my season where I'm meeting teams for the second time (nor have I played any Prem teams in cups), but each time I meet one of the Championship teams I edited (Wolves and Reading being the first two), it shows the name of their edited formation on the pre match screen where it lists their 3 best/worst players, on the left side where it shows the formation underneath it says "Custom 18 442" or whatever, and you can see the CBs are pulled right back to the keeper in the 2d drawing. Plus in the match screens you can see the same thing.

I haven't followed this discussion, but it sounds interesting. Why are you pulling the CB's back? Are you doing this with the top teams aswell (Man Utd, Chelsea etc)? Is it to make the game harder?

[Placebo]

I'm doing it because Fifa09 has waaaaaaaaaay too many 1v1s, it's quite rare for top class defensive lines to be caught so high up out of position that your forward has a 20 yard run on the goalkeeper, usually it only really happens because you're playing a weak, naive team or because it's the last 10 mins and your opponent is attacking all out to get back into the match. But in Fifa09 against the AI you tend to get at least 5 or 6 clear 1v1's in a 2x10 match.

You have to use 1 custom formation slot for every team you edit, as you only have 30? Custom formation slots you're limited in how many teams you can edit, so I did all Premiership teams + 6 of the best Championship teams (+ Sheff Utd so the derby is harder). I play manager mode as Sheffield Wednesday so my primary opponents will be Championship and Premiership sides.

[nerf]

I think that the Defensive Pressure setting in Custom Tactics has an impact on the 'height' of the defensive line. If you reduced that for the CPU teams I'd imagine there'll be less space in behind to run into.

[jflores]

Xbox 360 version mate.

I see. What stadium is that on the pic, Old Trafford at nightime?

Must be my TV color settings but the grass looks very nice and crisp on that 360 pic compared to mine.

We should catch a game or two online tonight mate. I'll be on between 7pm and 9pm Eastern time. Gamertag Flores06.

[Placebo]

I think that the Defensive Pressure setting in Custom Tactics has an impact on the 'height' of the defensive line. If you reduced that for the CPU teams I'd imagine there'll be less space in behind to run into.

Possibly, but that also affects their tactical mentality as a whole which I wanted avoid doing as that's the kind of stuff that makes one team play a little differently from another team.

I've played 3 teams I edited now and one thing I found very interesting is that they seem to attack much more aggressively now and in higher numbers than before, obviously it's early days after only 3 matches against edited teams but it's possible that somehow pulling back their 2 CB's gave them some extra "attacking security" or something like that, obviously we need more people to test it over more games but I certainly have struggled far more against the 3 edited teams than against the unedited teams I've played so far.

[frangoitia]

Guys, you probably said this before but i cant find the answer. Is there any possibility to update offline squads ? Because it seems that the update is only valid at the online.
Do I have to pay the Adidas Season for each season that i want to be with squads up to date ?

Cheers

[Tim7]

Use the adidas live season free code then just pick any league to update and it will update all leagues.

[BillyBoy]

FIFA 09 PS3 trophy update coming March 19th 2009:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=991931

48 trophies in total. :)

[AK.Rabona]

Hey Placebo, is moving the CB's all the way back really a solution for 1 on 1's? I usually play online and make backward runs with my defenders to intercept the through balls or prevent the strikers from catching the 1 on 1 chances, so it's not a Huuge problem for me, but it's always nice to know alternatives.


By the way. I've been playing for the past 2 weeks to improve -15 record. It was 5 wins to 20 losses. And finally yesterday I went into the positives with 45 wins and 44 losses. And guess what? My roommate decided to play FIFA online when he can't even use a gamepad correctly (He uses the left thumbstick by pinching it with his thumb and index finger). He lost 17 games in a row and won only once...He would just keep replaying guys that beat him 4-0, 3-1, etc games that he wasn't even close to winning. And he was commending the opponents for being fair and modest by skipping the goals replays and accepting his rematches. He said what matters is that the 2 opponents respect each other. He was thinking about adding them to the friend lists and sending them messages. I just told him maybe they were doing that because they knew you were slim pickings and they were improving their ranks with relative ease. And he said "Well look at the bright side, at least I'm making somebody happy."

[Tim7]

:LOL:

[Placebo]

Hey Placebo, is moving the CB's all the way back really a solution for 1 on 1's? I usually play online and make backward runs with my defenders to intercept the through balls or prevent the strikers from catching the 1 on 1 chances, so it's not a Huuge problem for me, but it's always nice to know alternatives.

Well it's not a "final solution to the 1v1 question" but it's a big improvement, of course I only play manager mode so haven't tested any impact online.

[Phat J 22]

what about with your formation, does it make a difference when opponents play you if you have them pulled back?

[Placebo]

I get caught out 1v1 less (you still need to be sensible with attacking mentality as the AI pushes or not, I usually play defensive or normal but watch how far they push up).

[matt1288]

I find it especially irritating when playing teams like Man United online, and Scholes does some super pass with his outside and it ends up 1v1 with Ronaldo and the keeper. I get my fair few 1-1's as well, but I try to build my plays up through crossing and one-twos. But when people use teams like United, Barcelona and Spain all they have to do is send a through ball.

[AK.Rabona]

Yep that's what ruins the game. The best way is to chose your defenders and make them run backwards 2-3 steps behind their outmost player and trying to maintain this distance. If you want to apply pressure do it using the pressure2 which gets a nonselected cpu player to run to the player. Once he settles in your half for a couple of seconds the throughball threat dies off anyways and you can go back to applying regular pressure. And also on 1 on 1's or 1 on 2 where you have 1 stopper left make sure not to try and defend using full sprint. If you do it like I told you you should have at least 1 stopper in front of his final striker. If you try to run towards him or his direction a slightly skilled player can cross you pretty comfortably with a few cuts or skills. Instead use your advantageous position to anticipate where he will be going and try to stay in front of him by either walking or strafing. Also while you're maintaining your distance, if he's sprinting you can easily get the ball if you make in a move just when he has kicked the ball forward. And if he's walking you can directly apply pressure to him by holding the button down and sprinting, you dont even have to pick a direction. If you're doing these things even halfway right usually you can neutralize threats since if you have anticipated the through pass and have slowed it down for even 2-3 seconds then your defenders will get back to help you. And as you get better you'll be able to position so well that you'll be picking up the through passes or directly getting the ball from the strikers feet most of the time.

If you're caught 1 on 1 with only the goalie, it's all about timing. A useful technique is committing with the goalie and stopping half a second before the collision. This will close the angle really well and increase your chances of saving the ball. If the guy is doing a full sprint and he has a defender on him going shoulder to shoulder, commit imminently since he has very slight chance to score in such a situation. If you are worrying about lobbing, leave it in the second plan. Lobs have a tendency to go over the post so it is better for you to force a lob than giving a shot at goal. But if the player is walking towards you that's usually a sign to attempt a lob so be aware of that, but goalies tend to step up the line anyways so it's best to commit no matter what unless you're 100% he's gonna lob it.

This is actually just like defending in real life which is a very good thing for the game. What is not like real life is the frequency of these situations. And people who pick Man Unaldo, LiverTORRES, and Barceleto'o kinda ruin it. The good thing is if you make backwards run like I said, you can eliminate the threat and these guys are mostly one trick ponies so you basically have their hand ties as long as you stay focused.

I actually don't even mind losing to people who attempt to play something other than this cheap through pass game or pick other teams than Barcelona or Man United (sometimes Liverpool). I could lose to aguy playing intelligently 5 times ina row and I wouldnt mind playing him 5 more times, becuause that's the beauty of this game when it's played right. I have played games so competitive that my hands were sweating and a slight slip of the joystick could mean a goal for or against me. That is something completely different than when I'm playing some guy who just keeps trying to through pass to Ronaldo or Eto'o or trying to catch me on the counter.

[matt1288]

Thanks for the tips, I also find when I mark Ronaldo, and he never gets the ball they quit when I'm 3-0 up. I can have a great against united and be winning 5-0, or I could be losing the game 3-0. Depends on how I play, but recently I have learned how to mark Ronaldo, with a strong full back (Vargas) from Fiorentina.

[tobi]

I've tested moving the CB's further back and it definitely works.

I've been playing a lot with Real Madrid online recently and 90% of my opponents are Man Utd or Barca and its very satisfying watching my defence take the ball off their forwards on several occasions. It makes some people change their approach mid game and actually try and pass the ball around.

Using a tweaked version of Madrid's default formation (change the team mentality to defensive at KO) I moved Pepe and Cannavaro back a bit and I also moved the LB's starting position back one spot. It also helps playing Marcelo at LB instead of Heinze because he can keep pace with Ronaldo/Messi etc.

I moved Diarra and Gago back one spot and I play Higuian and Huntelaar upfront also

:l2: is great online.

[Nick Cave]

We have pulled our defence back as Leeds in our MM, made a big impact on the game...

[matt1288]

What does the L2 do? For me it just makes the player play the ball closer to his feet.

[tobi]

I was referring to the Jostle button, I've forgotten what it is...

[Placebo]

We have pulled our defence back as Leeds in our MM, made a big impact on the game...

Did you also do it to any AI opponents to make them harder to break down?

[Nick Cave]

Did you also do it to any AI opponents to make them harder to break down?

I did the top ten in both Prem and Championship, but still in Division 1 yet so I have no idea how it will work...:))

[tobi]

Why does Iker Casillas kick the ball 90% of the time with his weaker right foot?

Is their anyway that I can change it?

[jflores]

Guys, I am having a blast online with this game. I can't wait for how the next version in September will play. I can't imagine it getting more realistic than it already is. The only thing I see for them to fix would be some player faces/body and tweak the responsiveness a bit more. This game is definately a GEM and really shines online.

Yes, it's true that there are many one-on-one type goals, but this game allows you to play through the wings peppering the ball into the box as well. It also allows for you to build up your play, pass the ball around outside the box, and set up your best shot player for an outside scorcher. This game allows for many styles and gives you lots of freedom.

Yesterday I lost a game with an injury time goal which was just and very realistic. I've also won games in injury time which was an amazing feeling. I've also been a victim of numerous disconnects when leading a game.

I still have a lot more to master and tweak in my gameplay department and player movement. I am getting better and better at turning at the right time with certain agile type players, and have learned to use LT(Jokey Button)to better control my players on/off the ball to my advantage. I've also improved my headers on goal a lot by using the LT at the right time and have managed to score some beauties where I felt in total control of my player.

I play on SEMI shooting, Manual Through ball, Auto Passing, and Semi-Crossing. Works a beauty!

The only thing I really wish this game had, was a full practice mode as PES where I could spend hrs tweaking certain specific areas and skills for online.

If anyone is up for a game tomorrow morning Eastern time, shoot me a private message.

Peace!

[gomito#10]

Guys, I am having a blast online with this game. I can't wait for how the next version in September will play. I can't imagine it getting more realistic than it already is. The only thing I see for them to fix would be some player faces/body and tweak the responsiveness a bit more. This game is definately a GEM and really shines online.

Yes, it's true that there are many one-on-one type goals, but this game allows you to play through the wings peppering the ball into the box as well. It also allows for you to build up your play, pass the ball around outside the box, and set up your best shot player for an outside scorcher. This game allows for many styles and gives you lots of freedom.

Yesterday I lost a game with an injury time goal which was just and very realistic. I've also won games in injury time which was an amazing feeling. I've also been a victim of numerous disconnects when leading a game.

I still have a lot more to master and tweak in my gameplay department and player movement. I am getting better and better at turning at the right time with certain agile type players, and have learned to use LT(Jokey Button)to better control my players on/off the ball to my advantage. I've also improved my headers on goal a lot by using the LT at the right time and have managed to score some beauties where I felt in total control of my player.

I play on SEMI shooting, Manual Through ball, Auto Passing, and Semi-Crossing. Works a beauty!

The only thing I really wish this game had, was a full practice mode as PES where I could spend hrs tweaking certain specific areas and skills for online.

If anyone is up for a game tomorrow morning Eastern time, shoot me a private message.

Peace!

yo homeboy, try manual passing... much better then assisted

[winston]

Manual passing is much better, but not on-line, unless your opponent also plays manual.

I've tried manual v assisted opponent, and it's far too easy for them, with all their passes being perfectly scripted for them, and far more responsive, as they don;t need to wait for power bars to fill.

It's like trying to play against someone who's been give a 20% speed boost.

[matt1288]

I agree with above, that's why I play with semi-passing so that the game isn't to unfair.

[matt1288]

Sorry to double post but:

Yesterday I learned how to do the Hocus Pocus, I can do it in the arena, but I can never do it in the match? Why is that! I'm using the same player I used in the arena (Del Piero).

[Phat J 22]

hocus pocus?

[matt1288]

YouTube - Taddeis Hocus Pocus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEHKUxctg2w&feature=related)

There you go!

[Joe]

Sorry to double post but:

Yesterday I learned how to do the Hocus Pocus, I can do it in the arena, but I can never do it in the match? Why is that! I'm using the same player I used in the arena (Del Piero).

Maybe because the camera angle in the match is different to in the arena and that means the directions you move the stick will be different.

If you have it on BAP camera and it doesnt work then I dont know sorry

[Nick Cave]

Sorry to double post but:

Yesterday I learned how to do the Hocus Pocus, I can do it in the arena, but I can never do it in the match? Why is that! I'm using the same player I used in the arena (Del Piero).
Man, I've not seen that...

[AK.Rabona]

just look up fifa09 trick guide on youtube. It doesn't look as spectacular as the one Taddei did.

I think tricks and shots are not as responsive and effective in the game as the arena. In the arena I can do the Ronaldo cut-in and the dribble thing where you hit the ball forward with the opposite heel without any trouble. And my shots almost always are on target. In game, it's another story.

[andish2001]

its not an issue of responsiveness, its simply that the orientation of your player is always different in the game, including after youve done a chop and are at an angle, to do the heel to heel you would need to go up down or whatever it is on that angle.

[YoungGun_UK]

They are actually very effective IMO, Step overs are probably the easiest and quickest way to beat a player.

[Nick Cave]

They are actually very effective IMO, Step overs are probably the easiest and quickest way to beat a player.

they are only so so against AI though...

[AK.Rabona]

I know they are effective, but just not responsive 100% of the time is what I meant. I mean there have been a lot of times where I ruined a good attack because I couldn't pull off a chop even though I was pretty sure I pulled back the stick the twice pretty strongly and quickly.

[Phat J 22]

if you dont pull it back at the perfect angle though it wont work, its easier to do in the arena because you're looking at him from behind.

i dont bother with the tricks though myself, i should its just a lot of work figuring them out.

[jonneymendoza]

can anyone give me advice on how to score from one on ones? i miss 8 times out of 10

[Tim7]

Double tap.

[Nick Cave]

yep Double tap shoot, Triple :circle: :l2: works sometimes instead of :triangle: :l2: for little keeper chips for me. Or :r1: for placed shots...

Shot fake works if your quick, I've only managed to round the keeper and score twice in all 20 odd seasons of playing, most of the time you just get clipped, clipping is FIFA AI staple...

[Tim7]

Or you get round the goalie then the cunt takes you out and the wanker referee doesn't even give a penalty. Fucking shocking.

[Nick Cave]

Yep, it's the same with the hack on the wings, that happens all the time and you know it's coming but you can't avoid it...

[matt1288]

Usually I just finess the shot, but at times when i am in a weird angle I just whack it in.

[Placebo]

Yep, it's the same with the hack on the wings, that happens all the time and you know it's coming but you can't avoid it...

TBH I find that one pretty easy to avoid (as in I move the ball out of the way and get taken down for a freekick and almost certain booking for the AI opponent) got AI players sent off quite a lot of times for 2x wing hackings :)

[Nick Cave]

TBH I find that one pretty easy to avoid (as in I move the ball out of the way and get taken down for a freekick and almost certain booking for the AI opponent) got AI players sent off quite a lot of times for 2x wing hackings :)

It's the fact I can't avoid the hack that bugs me, I can keep the ball away from them but just get hacked. I also find they only get booked every 1 out of four or five times TBH...

[Placebo]

Weird for me they get booked much more than that, maybe 3/5 or something.

[jonneymendoza]

Double tap.


cool thanks. i tend to tap it once to shoot or hold it to blast it past the goalie but he either always saves it or it goes wide :(

i will try that double tap method and see if it works. thanks mate

[YoungGun_UK]

they are only so so against AI though...

Online I agree but offline Multiplayer its just as effective if not more.

[Disqo]

The wing hacks don't really bother me as the CPU team always gets cards for doing it.

[AK.Rabona]

What about tips from entering from the wing. When entering into the box from the wing I can hardly create a threat even though I'm so close to the goal. Sometimes I can cross 3 players back to back to get into an angle, and then I'll just R1 shoot in to the opposite angle, but I can't pull off the 2-3 crosses usually. Sometimes I'll end up trying to pass it inside, but the defenders intercept it 99% of the time. A couple of times I triple tapped the cross, which sends a cross from the ground I think (I remember from PES) and scored like that a couple of times, but again not so effecient.

[matt1288]

If you are playing online this is how I always score my headers: (this also works for short strikers, I used Kris Boyd from Rangers to score headers)

Make sure you are using SEMI-CROSSING if you are not using manual already, and when your on the wing make sure you are not sprinting unless you want to do a long curling cross which requires you to hold the R1 button, but when you are playing semi you can also cross from the edge of the box, and near the corner line and hold the R1 button with half meter power and usually a striker will come running in and heads it in.

This personally ALWAYS works for me, I suggest you try using Fiorentina to score many headers / crosses because Gilardino and Mutu always score their headers. I have found on the new FIFA or FIFA in general you cannot really score those triple tap cross button like you could in PES, therefore I have stopped doing those and now I try to cut in near the goal and have a whack at goal.

[Placebo]

Dave Rutter again confirmed in the EA forums that manager mode is the area most requested to be improved for Fifa10, which is good news.

[jonneymendoza]

cool. i hope they bring manager mode in MP/online format

[Nick Cave]

Dave Rutter again confirmed in the EA forums that manager mode is the area most requested to be improved for Fifa10, which is good news.

Great news, I just wish they would merge FIFA Manager now they have acquired another management title...

[Placebo]

Yeah the thought of a real management game merged into the Fifa engine makes me white wee.

[evacuate]

I really hope they add the option to play as a fixed player in manager mode. So you can play kind of like a playing manager but you can choose any player just like how you can play fixed in PES. This way I would actually look forward to MM because I don't really enjoy controlling every player, it feels a little more realistic to me when controlling one player like in baps.

But they wont do it :(

[Phat J 22]

they might, you can do that in the NHL managers mode EA makes.

[luke909]

Has anyone had a problem doing a League Cup mode on FIFA?

I tried twice, first time I was playing Watford and I paused it to watch the first half of the Utd game, when I returned the player indicators, scoreboard and commentary had turned off. Then one of my players got injured and it went to the screen to make a sub, but there were no names to choose from and I couldn't press any button.

I then retried it, beat Watford and was drawn against Southampton, then midway through the first half the same thing happened. I then scored a goal and went to review the replay but once I got into the manual replay mode I couldn't leave it.

[gomito#10]

cool. i hope they bring manager mode in MP/online format

i bet they will

[bunsen]

If the opponent gets a corner, is it possible to put a second defender to the far post?

I have used the search function, but could not find the answer.

[Nick Cave]

If the opponent gets a corner, is it possible to put a second defender to the far post?

I have used the search function, but could not find the answer.

Nope not that I know of, you have no choice...

[bunsen]

Thx. I also could not find a way till now. Will try again today evening.

[Placebo]

Against the AI they usually hit the first man or go beyond the first post so I always choose a tall player and cover the first man......

[bunsen]

Thx, for the tip :D Should be also improved with FIFA 10

[Nick Cave]

Against the AI they usually hit the first man or go beyond the first post so I always choose a tall player and cover the first man......

I always pull a striker in from the edge of the box and make sure your guys get in front, but at the far post its hard to win defensive headers as my guy usually won't jump...
I'm still unsure if I should wait till the last min or press as soon as I can for heading, it's still hit and miss for me...

[Nick Cave]

My big gripe is still player switching on 2vAI often you just can't select an attacking player until your teammate has hit pass or shoot.
Loads of times he will be bombing down the wing and I just can't select an attacker... :RANT:

[tobi]

My big gripe is still player switching on 2vAI often you just can't select an attacking player until your teammate has hit pass or shoot.
Loads of times he will be bombing down the wing and I just can't select an attacker... :RANT:

Its as if the CPU is in control of when you can and can't change the cursor, it happens in every game for me and it pisses me off.

[Placebo]

I always pull a striker in from the edge of the box and make sure your guys get in front, but at the far post its hard to win defensive headers as my guy usually won't jump...
I'm still unsure if I should wait till the last min or press as soon as I can for heading, it's still hit and miss for me...

I've learned in my management mode that the key to good defensive headers is high aggression (my 2 CB's now have 99 aggression to help test this theory), combine that with jumping early, so you press the shoot button maybe half a second before the ball would meet your CB's head, then he meets it in the air (in theory above any opponent), sometimes if you time it wrong your CB will head it on the way down so the ball loops up rather than clearing far out, but this still gives you time to move your defender into a recovery blocking position with super cancel (yes, yes I know SC is not 2xAI friendly ;)))

[Nick Cave]

I've learned in my management mode that the key to good defensive headers is high aggression (my 2 CB's now have 99 aggression to help test this theory), combine that with jumping early, so you press the shoot button maybe half a second before the ball would meet your CB's head, then he meets it in the air (in theory above any opponent), sometimes if you time it wrong your CB will head it on the way down so the ball loops up rather than clearing far out, but this still gives you time to move your defender into a recovery blocking position with super cancel (yes, yes I know SC is not 2xAI friendly ;)))
I'll try that, that will mean spending XP's but as long as I just do aggression (I would have thought strength would count too) I can live with that...

[Tim7]

FIFA 10 (http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/9091979/FIFA-10/Product.html)

:))

[luke909]

Quite ground breaking, FIFA to come out in October.

Got any more scoops?

[Nick Cave]

Is that right, October...

[AK.Rabona]

I was playing online and this guy kept scoring against me in corners. He made it 4-0, and I got determined and made it 4-3, but then he scored again from a corner making it 5-3. I had no idea how to defend. He would just pull defenders back and cross it in. He would run on to the cross and score every time. I couldn't do anything.

[millmax7]

has any one had problems with created players? i created my player and transfer him from an club to my club and the back of the jersey looked messed up....why?

[Placebo]

I believe it's an oft reported bug.

I created a player but created him in my team so the bug never happened.

[nerf]

Does he have squad number 128 by any chance? I've seen players in MM with the number 128 and it corrupts the numbers on the back of their shirt in-game.

[wan_d7]

errr...i got the number bug,which i don't know if anyone faced this,well maybe you already do. where my newly transferred player in,and he was given a 128 number. and in game the back number look like a stamp,where i can only see the number 8,and besides is the purple color thingy.dunno wats that actually. nice present EA :|

[Placebo]

For those that don't know, Fifa 2010 is going to be called Fifa10 instead, shame IMO but there you are. Rutter's already calling it that as well: http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/344910-hello-team-108.html#post6826549

[pepper63]

just started second season in MM won F.A.cup and EPL and after second game it just pauses at ticker screen at " simulating " which is stuck at 12%,fucking doing my nut in,anyone had this??

[adelante]

For those that don't know, Fifa 2010 is going to be called Fifa10 instead, shame IMO but there you are. Rutter's already calling it that as well: http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/344910-hello-team-108.html#post6826549
Here's hoping nobody really thinks its EA's tenth Fifa game...well, not that its gonna matter much anyway

[Nick Cave]

just started second season in MM won F.A.cup and EPL and after second game it just pauses at ticker screen at " simulating " which is stuck at 12%,fucking doing my nut in,anyone had this??
nope, what a bummer...

[Nick Cave]

For those that don't know, Fifa 2010 is going to be called Fifa10 instead, shame IMO but there you are. Rutter's already calling it that as well: http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/344910-hello-team-108.html#post6826549
Hmmm he says most requested, nothing about it being the most improved. I hope to god they do more than tweak it again...

[Placebo]

The link was purely for name confirmation purposes, I already posted a few days ago the information it was "most requested" ;)

[Nick Cave]

The link was purely for name confirmation purposes, I already posted a few days ago the information it was "most requested" ;)
Yep I remember, I'm crossing everything for big things in 10...

[Placebo]

Me too bud :)

[Phat J 22]

as long as the mm is brushed up on ill be happy. and limiting the number of people that can connect to a BAP match.

Yep I remember, I'm crossing everything for big things in 10...
are those all films in your signature? which one should i try first?

[drekkard]

How can you setup an online game to play 2 vs 2? Me and my friend want to meet online and play together against other people in 2 vs 2. I tried to setup a club but it seems 3 people are needed minimum to play a club match. I hadn't explored this yet and I can't figure how it works.

I gave up single player a month ago and only play online with my friend (very difficult to find good people to play against now and then, specially at the hours I use to play, which is past midnight).

[Placebo]

as long as the mm is brushed up on ill be happy. and limiting the number of people that can connect to a BAP match.


By brushed up on do you mean tweaked? Cos IMO MM fans deserve waaaaaaaaaay more than that, we deserve for MM to be the primary focus for Fifa10, in Fifa09 we're still playing the same MM as 4 years ago, basically Fifa06 on PS2 which is pretty shocking IMO considering this whole "next gen" bollocks. Not just that but Fifa09's manager mode has been made worse than Fifa08's:

1. Edit kit numbers removed.
2. View individual player post match stats removed.
3. XP system completely broken.

The only plus points for Fifa09's MM is that 1. English league playoffs are now in, (but even that's messed up and the final isn't at Wembley :() and 2. Carling/FA Cup finals are now held at Wembley, can't remember if the charity shield is there though? And I'm betting that EFA/ECC finals are just held at the home ground of the finalists?

My personal view is that as absolute minimum we should get all the fixes we've been waiting 4 versions for, ie:

1. Proper injuries

2. AI teams rotate their squads for fatigue

3. AI strengthens their team in the transfer market

4. AI adjusts lineup/kick takers to include new signings if better and to take older players deteriorating into account

5. Variable weather and midweek night matches

6. Finance side of things completely revamped (no more earning 200k per match in League2)

7. Proper transfers and loan marker, no more Beckham to Aldershot Town if you have enough money and improve your negotiator, loans out earn experience, loans in reflect real rules such as short/long term loans and 5 loans allowed (not just 2x1 year loans as current).

8. Swedish/Norwegian teams being allowed back into EFA/ECC, when moving to a new club that qualified for EFA/ECC they don't get "kicked out"

9. Player rating system fixed (how come I can have a forward score 40 goals in a season but he never gets a high enough rating to be in the top20 overall forwards?

10. Team of the season fixed, no more reserves who played only 4 matches being in team of the year, nor Hull/Stoke players being in the Championship team of the year based on their Premiership season.

(I'm probably forgetting a bunch that we've been begging for over the last 3 years of course).

Then on top of those long overdue fixes I want to see stuff like:

1. Each player having personality, no more signing Cronaldo and him being happy to spend 5 years on the bench.

2. Managers being hired/fired, do well in League2 and other clubs around the world will come sniffing around and offer you a new job (even in the middle of a season).

3. Cash injections from new boards, cash haemorrhages by bankrupt sponsors/chairman XL anyone ;)

4. Other leagues around the world have their matches properly simulated so you can scout out which players are scoring/assisting well for example.

5. International management, I know there's not enough national teams to make this a big thing but there's still enough to do some kind of regular friendlies and world cup type tournament with you being able to do a Hiddink (ie manage 5 or 6 different national teams over your career, starting with crap teams like Slovenia and then as you become more respected you can get jobs at good teams like Brazil/Italy etc.)

That's enough for now, but you get the point ;)

Of course if you meant the above under "brushed up on" then I take it all back ;)

[Tim7]

How can you setup an online game to play 2 vs 2? Me and my friend want to meet online and play together against other people in 2 vs 2. I tried to setup a club but it seems 3 people are needed minimum to play a club match. I hadn't explored this yet and I can't figure how it works.

I gave up single player a month ago and only play online with my friend (very difficult to find good people to play against now and then, specially at the hours I use to play, which is past midnight).
Yes, Clubs is 3 players minimum so you can't do it that way. The only way to do it online is set up a BAP 10v10 match, and hope that only 2 other people join and go against you and both pick Any. So basically there is no chance :((.

[Nick Cave]

are those all films in your signature? which one should i try first?

Check PM's

[nerf]

(no more earning 200k per match in League2)
I'm earning over €250k per match in the Spanish Segunda Division too, it's ridiculous. I selected the lowest sponsorship contract, charge low ticket prices, no facilities upgraded.

I've resorted to in-game crime to alleviate this issue. You see, scouting can be expensive. For example, I can siphon up to as much as €500k by dispatching my scout off on a jolly around Europe 'looking for a new striker' :WHISTLE:. Even if I happen to suddenly recall him a couple of days later (those pesky emergencies).

So the money slips out of the accounts under the 'scouting' budget, my associate gets fat living in luxurious hotels while putting some expenses aside into an off-shore account for later, and the club's accountants are none the wiser :SHHH:

[Nick Cave]

I'm earning over €250k per match in the Spanish Segunda Division too, it's ridiculous. I selected the lowest sponsorship contract, charge low ticket prices, no facilities upgraded.

I've resorted to in-game crime to alleviate this issue. You see, scouting can be expensive. For example, I can siphon up to as much as €500k by dispatching my scout off on a jolly around Europe 'looking for a new striker' :WHISTLE:. Even if I happen to suddenly recall him a couple of days later (those pesky emergencies).

So the money slips out of the accounts under the 'scouting' budget, my associate gets fat living in luxurious hotels while putting some expenses aside into an off-shore account for later, and the club's accountants are none the wiser :SHHH:

Up all you players wages, it's the best way to do it. Just be careful I ended up selling all my top earners one season when I got it a bit wrong...

[Phat J 22]

How can you setup an online game to play 2 vs 2? Me and my friend want to meet online and play together against other people in 2 vs 2. I tried to setup a club but it seems 3 people are needed minimum to play a club match. I hadn't explored this yet and I can't figure how it works.

I gave up single player a month ago and only play online with my friend (very difficult to find good people to play against now and then, specially at the hours I use to play, which is past midnight).
just go into the fifa lobbies and select one of the 2v2 rooms..sometimes it takes a little longer but sometimes you can get one quick.

[Phat J 22]

By brushed up on do you mean tweaked? Cos IMO MM fans deserve waaaaaaaaaay more than that, we deserve for MM to be the primary focus for Fifa10, in Fifa09 we're still playing the same MM as 4 years ago, basically Fifa06 on PS2 which is pretty shocking IMO considering this whole "next gen" bollocks. Not just that but Fifa09's manager mode has been made worse than Fifa08's:

1. Edit kit numbers removed.
2. View individual player post match stats removed.
3. XP system completely broken.

The only plus points for Fifa09's MM is that 1. English league playoffs are now in, (but even that's messed up and the final isn't at Wembley :() and 2. Carling/FA Cup finals are now held at Wembley, can't remember if the charity shield is there though? And I'm betting that EFA/ECC finals are just held at the home ground of the finalists?

My personal view is that as absolute minimum we should get all the fixes we've been waiting 4 versions for, ie:

1. Proper injuries

2. AI teams rotate their squads for fatigue

3. AI strengthens their team in the transfer market

4. AI adjusts lineup/kick takers to include new signings if better and to take older players deteriorating into account

5. Variable weather and midweek night matches

6. Finance side of things completely revamped (no more earning 200k per match in League2)

7. Proper transfers and loan marker, no more Beckham to Aldershot Town if you have enough money and improve your negotiator, loans out earn experience, loans in reflect real rules such as short/long term loans and 5 loans allowed (not just 2x1 year loans as current).

8. Swedish/Norwegian teams being allowed back into EFA/ECC, when moving to a new club that qualified for EFA/ECC they don't get "kicked out"

9. Player rating system fixed (how come I can have a forward score 40 goals in a season but he never gets a high enough rating to be in the top20 overall forwards?

10. Team of the season fixed, no more reserves who played only 4 matches being in team of the year, nor Hull/Stoke players being in the Championship team of the year based on their Premiership season.

(I'm probably forgetting a bunch that we've been begging for over the last 3 years of course).

Then on top of those long overdue fixes I want to see stuff like:

1. Each player having personality, no more signing Cronaldo and him being happy to spend 5 years on the bench.

2. Managers being hired/fired, do well in League2 and other clubs around the world will come sniffing around and offer you a new job (even in the middle of a season).

3. Cash injections from new boards, cash haemorrhages by bankrupt sponsors/chairman XL anyone ;)

4. Other leagues around the world have their matches properly simulated so you can scout out which players are scoring/assisting well for example.

5. International management, I know there's not enough national teams to make this a big thing but there's still enough to do some kind of regular friendlies and world cup type tournament with you being able to do a Hiddink (ie manage 5 or 6 different national teams over your career, starting with crap teams like Slovenia and then as you become more respected you can get jobs at good teams like Brazil/Italy etc.)

That's enough for now, but you get the point ;)

Of course if you meant the above under "brushed up on" then I take it all back ;)

yeah i was about to put all that then something came up :WHISTLE:

[tobi]

I've been playing a Bundesliga season with Werder Bremem and enjoying it, in my last game Pizarro got injured. I go to the squad section to tinker with the line up and I realise that once again players have mysteriously vanished from my game.

On this occasion my first choice strike force of Almeida and Pizarro have gone and been replaced with a bunch of 'numbers'.

:CURSE:

[Phat J 22]

that is strange, maybe try deleting your whole fifa save file and starting from scratch.

[thostig]

I now have the bug that for example LFC and Tottenham have like 7 players on the field until the missing players suddenly come after about 50 mins.. Annoying as hell.

[YoungGun_UK]

Its the ALS, Just delete your Personal settings and it should be fine.

[Nick Cave]

I now have the bug that for example LFC and Tottenham have like 7 players on the field until the missing players suddenly come after about 50 mins.. Annoying as hell.

WTF, I have not seen any problems yet, I'm in my third season since the update...

[quiet_riot]

Fatigue is ridiculous!

I started a new MM with a league 1 team, and with only having a small squad, after 2 to 3 games, EVERYONE was in the red!

As a result, I was 2nd to every ball, ended up losing 5 on the bounce and was sacked! :BLEH:

[Placebo]

Just bump the fatigue coach up to about 3 and you'll be fine, I did a MM with Grimsby once and it was tough for the first 5 or 6 matches but then the players became match fit and didn't become so fatigued after each match.

[Scorpio]

By brushed up on do you mean tweaked? Cos IMO MM fans deserve waaaaaaaaaay more than that, we deserve for MM to be the primary focus for Fifa10, in Fifa09 we're still playing the same MM as 4 years ago, basically Fifa06 on PS2 which is pretty shocking IMO considering this whole "next gen" bollocks. Not just that but Fifa09's manager mode has been made worse than Fifa08's:

1. Edit kit numbers removed.
2. View individual player post match stats removed.
3. XP system completely broken.

The only plus points for Fifa09's MM is that 1. English league playoffs are now in, (but even that's messed up and the final isn't at Wembley :() and 2. Carling/FA Cup finals are now held at Wembley, can't remember if the charity shield is there though? And I'm betting that EFA/ECC finals are just held at the home ground of the finalists?

My personal view is that as absolute minimum we should get all the fixes we've been waiting 4 versions for, ie:

1. Proper injuries

2. AI teams rotate their squads for fatigue

3. AI strengthens their team in the transfer market

4. AI adjusts lineup/kick takers to include new signings if better and to take older players deteriorating into account

5. Variable weather and midweek night matches

6. Finance side of things completely revamped (no more earning 200k per match in League2)

7. Proper transfers and loan marker, no more Beckham to Aldershot Town if you have enough money and improve your negotiator, loans out earn experience, loans in reflect real rules such as short/long term loans and 5 loans allowed (not just 2x1 year loans as current).

8. Swedish/Norwegian teams being allowed back into EFA/ECC, when moving to a new club that qualified for EFA/ECC they don't get "kicked out"

9. Player rating system fixed (how come I can have a forward score 40 goals in a season but he never gets a high enough rating to be in the top20 overall forwards?

10. Team of the season fixed, no more reserves who played only 4 matches being in team of the year, nor Hull/Stoke players being in the Championship team of the year based on their Premiership season.

(I'm probably forgetting a bunch that we've been begging for over the last 3 years of course).

Then on top of those long overdue fixes I want to see stuff like:

1. Each player having personality, no more signing Cronaldo and him being happy to spend 5 years on the bench.

2. Managers being hired/fired, do well in League2 and other clubs around the world will come sniffing around and offer you a new job (even in the middle of a season).

3. Cash injections from new boards, cash haemorrhages by bankrupt sponsors/chairman XL anyone ;)

4. Other leagues around the world have their matches properly simulated so you can scout out which players are scoring/assisting well for example.

5. International management, I know there's not enough national teams to make this a big thing but there's still enough to do some kind of regular friendlies and world cup type tournament with you being able to do a Hiddink (ie manage 5 or 6 different national teams over your career, starting with crap teams like Slovenia and then as you become more respected you can get jobs at good teams like Brazil/Italy etc.)

That's enough for now, but you get the point ;)

Of course if you meant the above under "brushed up on" then I take it all back ;)

I REALLY hope that David Rutter reads this and changes all those points that you mentioned Placebo. Well said (and writen).

[Placebo]

Thanks, I hope so too, really, really do, another year of "next gen" MM from PS2 Fifa07 and I might have to start strangling kittens.

[*** Nomis1 ***]

Hello all

Ive been prompted for an update this morning (360). Anyone know what for?

[Nick Cave]

Fatigue is ridiculous!

I started a new MM with a league 1 team, and with only having a small squad, after 2 to 3 games, EVERYONE was in the red!

As a result, I was 2nd to every ball, ended up losing 5 on the bounce and was sacked! :BLEH:

:D

[Tim7]

Hello all

Ive been prompted for an update this morning (360). Anyone know what for?
Nowt important mate, don't worry about it.

[mjsmith2k]

Thanks, I hope so too, really, really do, another year of "next gen" MM from PS2 Fifa07 and I might have to start strangling kittens.

Would you really do it??

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DMgBO5uWGSU/Rp62_RgN9eI/AAAAAAAAACw/a6kxwChXFdY/s400/_cute_kitten.jpg



;)

[Scorpio]

Thanks, I hope so too, really, really do, another year of "next gen" MM from PS2 Fifa07 and I might have to start strangling kittens.

Don't know if it's possible but can you in any way deliver those named improvements to David Rutter or someone important at EA? You give them information for certain lower league teams, am I right? Maybe you can private message them in the EA Forum or mail it or something?

And maybe give some examples like f.e.:
"proper injuries: concussion = 1 week absence; broken leg = 1 year absence."

Because when looking at the bugs in the existing Manager Mode I don't think they're to bright at EA...

Totally worth trying if you ask me.

[Placebo]

Feature set for Fifa10 was already locked down a number of weeks ago so I'm afraid it would be pointless, even if Rutter received PMs on the EA forums, which he doesn't :(

[Ozkar]

I know this hasn't got anything to do with gameplay. But in MM there would be fun to actually see a proper trophy celebration for once! I want to feel rewarded when I win. I'm so sick of seeing the players jumping around like little schoolgirls for about 5 seconds and that's it...

[Nick Cave]

Yeah the whole big game atmosphere needs bulking out, and your right it does bite not having a good trophy presentation and celebration...

[Placebo]

I'm sure it'll be in Fifa10, that'll be the big MM changes for Fifa10, trophy presentations and night/weather changes........

[Scorpio]

And it feels ridiculous that say 5 games before the end of the season you win a game and become champion but your players just celebrate like a normal win...

Just hope EA don't change the gameplay to much with all those kids crying on the official forum that they want the arcade Fifa back... Makes me want to puke.

[YoungGun_UK]

Also need to make the CL matches different with a different intro (obviously cant be licensed) but they could easily make it more similar.

[Nick Cave]

I'm sure it'll be in Fifa10, that'll be the big MM changes for Fifa10, trophy presentations and night/weather changes........

Not all I hope... ;)

[Placebo]

That was me in cynical mode ;)

[DagsJT]

EA Sports’ Football World community manager, Romily Broad, has revealed the upcoming FIFA 09 DLC, Ultimate Team, will be priced at 800 / $9.99 US (£7.99). For the uninformed, Ultimate Team is a fantasy soccer management mode that will allow gamers to assemble their fantasy teams by collecting virtual cards in various categories.

Footy fans should take note, this isn’t regular DLC. The content will drop as a mandatory — and free — title update on March 19 (clocking in at about 1.3GB). Gamers will receive a five match trial with the option to shell out for the full version. Mandatory 1.3GB title update?

[Placebo]

LOL that's a bit crazy.

[Nick Cave]

EA Sports’ Football World community manager, Romily Broad, has revealed the upcoming FIFA 09 DLC, Ultimate Team, will be priced at 800 / $9.99 US (£7.99). For the uninformed, Ultimate Team is a fantasy soccer management mode that will allow gamers to assemble their fantasy teams by collecting virtual cards in various categories.

Footy fans should take note, this isn’t regular DLC. The content will drop as a mandatory — and free — title update on March 19 (clocking in at about 1.3GB). Gamers will receive a five match trial with the option to shell out for the full version. Mandatory 1.3GB title update?
Poo and big steaming pile of come to mind...

[jonneymendoza]

lo0l

[Phat J 22]

looks like ill have to move some stuff around, fifas already taking up most of my space.

[Tim7]

Me an all, I've only got about 65GB spare now :ROLL:.

[Placebo]

Another Rutter comment about MM:

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/399431-pess-master-league.html#post7019131

I can't possibly comment on what may or may not be in FIFA 10. But as the number 1 requested game mode improvement...Manager Mode certainly made it onto the list of improvements that we may or may not be working on at the moment.

HTH

[Nick Cave]

Another Rutter comment about MM:

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/399431-pess-master-league.html#post7019131

:BLINK: I'm not gonna get my hopes up, I still think it's going to be miles short of what I'd hope for... :D

[Placebo]

I still think it's going to be miles short of what I'd hope for... :D

Ditto :(

[pepper63]

rutter does'nt even look like he's ever kicked a football,smug twat..

[Placebo]

And how smug would you look if you were Senior Producer on the biggest and best footballing gaming franchise in modern history? ;)

[StayingPower]

How often is the ALS supposed to be updated; is it monthly or weekly?

[Tim7]

Weekly

[StayingPower]

That's strange, I updated it when the update came out and every time I've tried to update since, it says I already have the latest, and I still seem to have out of date ratings like Evra and Jonny Evans in the 70s because of injury.

[Nick Cave]

Since restarting my MM (when I had my PS3) I never checked for any updates, I assume it would not alter my MM...?

[Placebo]

Delete your saved squads and try again, also worth choosing the reset to default option.

Nick No.

[Nick Cave]

Nick No.

I thought so, cheers...;)

[Chris Davies]

That's strange, I updated it when the update came out and every time I've tried to update since, it says I already have the latest, and I still seem to have out of date ratings like Evra and Jonny Evans in the 70s because of injury.
You've probably tried this but when you check and it says "you already have the latest update", press okay, then wait a few seconds and press again to check.

I don't know if it's just this ISP - surely it isn't - but every single time any Xbox in this house checks for Live Season updates you have to check it twice for the game to "realise" that there is a new update out.

[StayingPower]

Thanks Placebo and Chris, I'll try both those suggestions and report back later.

Edit: Chris, I did as you said and that worked, thanks.

[tobi]

You've probably tried this but when you check and it says "you already have the latest update", press okay, then wait a few seconds and press again to check.

I don't know if it's just this ISP - surely it isn't - but every single time any Xbox in this house checks for Live Season updates you have to check it twice for the game to "realise" that there is a new update out.

This happens to me every week.

[pepper63]

And how smug would you look if you were Senior Producer on the biggest and best footballing gaming franchise in modern history? ;)Not a smug as him..:SNACK:

[Placebo]

Riiiiiiiiight.

[WILDSTER180774]

regarding the ALS, mine always says i have the latest download when i dont so i choose view league (only have EPL) then i choose download latest from that menu then it updates fine.

PS: Placebo, whats up with FifaSoccerBlog? I have not been able to load it up for a while now

[Placebo]

FSB is working fine here?

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/344910-hello-team-121.html#post7043312

W00T!

Considering that my team are known as "that team" when we get a throw in/corner or whatever I'd settle simply for having my team's name in there, let alone an actual song for us, it'd be "hi ho Sheffield Wednesday" BTW ;)
Can't promise new chants, but will promise team-specific commentary for your club for FIFA10.

[Tim7]

I wouldn't count on it, they can't even get the refereeing right.

[Tim7]

http://gameroom.gamebattles.com/view/cCZfhsalsEu5kCDw.html

I've never seen that before...WTF

[Placebo]

It emerged last night, another example of why I don't play online. Already been spreading on the EA forums how it's done, apparently you swap your keeper with an outfield player or something like that and it seems to disable the counter for how long he can hold the ball. (yes I know one shouldn't post how a cheat is done but the more widespread it is the quicker it will be fixed, for you sorts that play online).

[bunsen]

(yes I know one shouldn't post how a cheat is done but the more widespread it is the quicker it will be fixed, for you sorts that play online).

Dito. I also think it makes no sense to keep it secret. It has to be made public to increase pressure on EA for patching this glitch.

[Placebo]

Because exposing the bugs/glitches in the offline modes certainly prompted all of them to be fixed! :WHISTLE:

[YoungGun_UK]

What a load of shite that is! BTW nice Podcast Chris and Placebo, heard it yesterday.

[Tim7]

Oooh I wanna hear it! Linkage?

[Placebo]

http://fifasoccerblog.com/blog/fsb-2009-podcast-01-a-look-back/

[Tim7]

Ta

[DagsJT]

Good stuff, i'll have a listen to it on the way home from work :)

Is there an rss link? I can setup my N95 to automatically download podcasts but I need a URL.

[Tim7]

I love CB's voice! :DD

Not in a gay way.

[Jumbo_]

The dirty messages he sends me on Xbox Live don't sound like that. He's put on a special voice. PHONY!

[DagsJT]

20 mins from the end of the podcast but it's pretty good so far. Offers both positive and negative views on football games, and especially FIFA 09 and highlights what needs to be improved.

Good work CB and Placebo!

[TikTikTikTikTik]

Yeah enjoyed that, lovely voice you have Chris, ooor er........

[Placebo]

Good work CB and Placebo!

Thanks, I actually realised afterwards I really didn't say 1% of what I wanted to cover, apparently not preparing will do that ;) So hopefully will do better next time.

After so many interviews/Q&A's for ArmA/Flashpoint it's really weird to be talking about another game :)

[Tim7]

Quality podcast! I just hope no Belgian PES fans were listening :LMAO:.

[Placebo]

Pah to them! ;)

[Chris Davies]

Really glad you enjoyed it guys, thanks for the comments. To be honest I thought my scouse would be a bit too much for podcasting! But I'm glad I got some grievances off my chest anyway, hopefully some of them will get through to EA; that's the whole idea.

[Tim7]

You're gonna do more, right?

[Nick Cave]

You're gonna do more, right?
You after a job Tim... :P

[Jumbo_]

Yeah it was a good listen guys, well done!

[jonneymendoza]

yea nice 1

[Placebo]

To be honest I thought my scouse would be a bit too much for podcasting!


I must confess when I heard you say "Accrington Stanley" in my ear I did have a weird craving for milk ;)

[mjsmith2k]

Accrington Stanley? Who are they?

[Jumbo_]

"Accrington Stanley Football Club is an English football club from Accrington in Lancashire, in the north-west of England.

The club was formed in 1968, with the town regaining a club with league status after 44 years when they were promoted as champions of the Nationwide Conference on 15 April 2006.[1]

The club has been owned by Chairman Eric Whalley since the mid 1990s and employs Robert Heys, who joined the club in 2002, as Chief Executive."

Read more here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accrington_Stanley_F.C.

[Placebo]

Doh!

[Tim7]

Exactly.