FIFA 09 PS3/360 Discussion Thread

[pepper63]

:(( How long have you had it...13months:COP:

[BobbyBox]

13months:COP:

Thats around the same as when mine went! I just got mine back - it took 11 days for them to collect it, fix it and send it back.

[Nick Cave]

At least they don't charge for fixing it...

[Phat J 22]

When is the update coming out?

[Placebo]

A week or two after February 2nd.

[Disqo]

Stat tweaking, really?!

I thought most of us got past this phase when we stopped playing we10

LOL, it took me back to the glory days of WE/PES, these days I dont have the time to even contemplate the tweaking of stats

[Placebo]

If I were to do any tweaking/editing it would be to simply edit every formation and move the CB's/RB/LB much closer to the goal keeper for each team.

[brunnoce]

If I were to do any tweaking/editing it would be to simply edit every formation and move the CB's/RB/LB much closer to the goal keeper for each team.

yeh i agree with that...
i too feel the defenses play way to up on the picth...seems every team play a more pressing style...

[Phat J 22]

rohan ricketts is light coloured in the game, he should be black. is this where i should be telling you this?

so between feb 9th and 16th for the update? great, thanks.

[Placebo]

rohan ricketts is light coloured in the game, he should be black. is this where i should be telling you this?

No.

so between feb 9th and 16th for the update?

Should be.

[phrase]

What is the update all about Placebo? Transfers?

[StayingPower]

It's stats, transfers, hair styles, basically anything data related.

[phrase]

Where can I read official news on this new patch?

[Placebo]

How dare you, what I say is official! ;)

[WILDSTER180774]

i wa wondering what, if anything you guys had submitted to the update form. I have included Nasri's appearance to be overhauled as its shockingly bad in game + west ham utd to have their new sponsor added.

[WILDSTER180774]

+ is wenb down yet again.

[gurjisfit]

tried the stat edit for passing, sprint accel - but reduced by 20 points for villa and spurs - played a game of professional - like playing a new game.

pitch feels bigger, is more time on ball, AI has more time to execute its routines, or at least you have more time to motice them, and the passing pace is just perfect. suddenly i was executing moves i have not managed on FIFA because too much pressing - i.e. a lot more lateral movement and sophisticated moves.

I implore everyone who has this game to at least try this with two teams as i have done - at slow speed it feels almost, almost, like a new game.

KEY - for the two teams you pick to edit the first eleven's stats for, pick them as your favourite team before you start on their players - that way when you exit each player, it returns you to that teams page, rather than your genuine favourite team

BUT YOU MUST TRY IT - the game i played resembled last nights spurs man u game so much - now you can play the rhythmic tiki-taki barcelona type football around teh box cos you actually get time - and then still speed up your play when you want..

[shorty alien]

Yup, you're right, it's like playing a brand new game. You actually have time on the ball to buld your attacks realistically, the AI plays much better beacuse not everything is rush rush ping pong press press, you can feel the player stats better.

Playing on all Manual (if you've learned to) though with the tweak is the real clincher, it's so realistic, apart from the shooting which is flawed anyway.

EA should use this as the real "slow" speed setting, for simulation purists. The changes in pace are more realistic, as you say sprinting up the pitch takes longer and it seems bigger and more spacious.

And those who want to try it should save a new squad file, so they don't overwrite the default file, and can switch between the two.

[mjsmith2k]

Is there any chance of an option file with this already done? Seems like a lot of hassle messing about with stats.

:))

[CW]

Ah the stat tweaking continues...you crack on lads

[Tim7]

Are they offending you in some way CW? You seem to be deeply upset by all this :LOL:.

[Nick Cave]

Wont this just make the quicker players even less able to beat the slower defenders, as is the case now...?

[Placebo]

The update submission form will be disabled in just over 9 hours, currently there have been 920 entries which is a phenomenal response, thanks to everyone who has submitted so far, everyone at FSB is really blown away by how you've all taken to this idea of ours and we look forward to doing it again in the future, will we make 1,000 before the form is turned off? We'll see :)

[Tim7]

Can you get them to change where the notification pops up? Ridiculously they pop up completely over the radar on the 360 so you can't see it. I don't want to turn notifications off either as I like to know who's on and what's happening etc. Any one with a brain would have put it in the top right hand corner, just like in Rock Band. Another lazy EA trait...

[Placebo]

Yes because that's 100% a data issue that it can be fixed in a roster update.........

[Tim7]

It could easily be fixed in a patch, but as I've said, EA are too lazy.

I know it's not to do with you, but could you at least mention it to someone at EA?

[Placebo]

No there's no point as there won't be another bug fixing patch for Fifa09, and I personally have a long list of things I'd want to see fixed before that anyway.

[Joe]

Yes because that's 100% a data issue that it can be fixed in a roster update.........

:OOOH:

[Placebo]

;)

[Tim7]

No there's no point as there won't be another bug fixing patch for Fifa09, and I personally have a long list of things I'd want to see fixed before that anyway.
Yes, that's because you're a recluse who has no friends that pop up online anyway ;)).

[Nick Cave]

Meow...:LMAO:

[Placebo]

Yes, that's because you're a recluse who has no friends that pop up online anyway ;)).

If you're that desperate to get my new XBL name you only need to ask petal :)

[shorty alien]

Is there any chance of an option file with this already done? Seems like a lot of hassle messing about with stats.

:))

There is a PS3 rar file which you can download that has it all done, the forum members shared the editing and contributed. Unfortunately there is none for the 360 as MIcrosoft don't allow that sort of thing.

Originally Posted by davesaul2007 View Post
Here is the latest version of the file, please can someone else pick this up and start to edit another league. If we each just do 5 teams or so and then re-upload we could do it really quickly. I'm enjoying the changes so much, it really is worthwhile. Check earlier in the thread for Renatus' guide on how to use this file. It involves copying only the sysdata file. Anyone who picks up the file please say so on here and then upload when done to save anyone duplicating work.

PS3.rar - FileFront.com


Speed and Acceleration Reduction (-15)

EPL
Serie A
Bundesliga
La Liga
French Ligue 1

Short Passing Reduction (-15)

EPL teams
Ligue 1 teams
All Champions League teams who are on the game


Let's crack on and make this the most realistic footy sim of all time.
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/359582-bluchampbloggers-ultimate-guide-realistic-football-fifa-09-a-24.html

[shorty alien]

Wont this just make the quicker players even less able to beat the slower defenders, as is the case now...?

No, it's quite balanced. The overall speed of the game is universally reduced, as is the passing speed. Changes in pace can be utilized more realistically, and defending is also based on playing well positionally, with jostling coming even more to the fore.

[Nick Cave]

Hmm I may give it a bash...

[evacuate]

How do you flick the ball up when receiving a pass?

[Tim7]

If you're that desperate to get my new XBL name you only need to ask petal :)
I just didn't wanna come out and break the ice, now you've said that it's fine :)). What's your new gamertag? ;)).

[Placebo]

Placebo FSB :)

[mjsmith2k]

Notifications is an Xbox thing anyways. Microsoft would have to release the update. Personally I'd rather EA concentrate on more important things relating to the game itself.

[Phat J 22]

on some games it makes it smaller and puts it at the top of the screen like call of duty for instance. i would think its a game thing unless you want to fundamentally change it.

[Tim7]

It's a game thing mj. Other games have it different places.

Cheers Placebo. I'm suprised you didn't go for "PlaceyBoi" though ;)).

[Placebo]

I am too.

[shorty alien]

File has been updated since then:

Speed, Acceleration & Short Passing Reduction (-15)

English Premier League
English Coca-Cola Championship
Italian Serie A
Spanish La Liga
German Bundesliga
France Ligue 1
Scottish Premier League
Portuguese Liga Portuguesa
*All other Champions League Teams on the game

Apparently they will have news soon, wonder what it is.

[Morto10]

Just played a guy as tottenham against man city and beat him 2-1. After the game he sends me a message calling me a cheater because King was just as quick as Robinho and i have 300,000 points.

First off is it even possible to make King as fast as Robinho?

And 300,000 points isn't alot is it?

Its really pissed me off because i hate cheating cunts and then to be called one is just:RANT:

[Jumbo_]

300,000 points just means you've played a lot that's all.

And the only way to make King faster would be to reduce another attribute by alot so unless you've done that........

[Morto10]

I definately didn't do that anyway i don't know why anyone would want to do that just to get an advantage in a computer game, its ridiculous.

[tobi]

Why do German and French teams have different score boxes?

The French one is lovely.

[Tim7]

Is it too late to submit some changes for Charlton? Bailey, Semedo and Racon are all rated too low. Plus a few other bits, I could post an up to date starting line up and formation and kickers etc too. But I won't bother if it's too late :((.

[Placebo]

Go for it, I'll include them :)

[mjsmith2k]

There is a PS3 rar file which you can download that has it all done, the forum members shared the editing and contributed. Unfortunately there is none for the 360 as MIcrosoft don't allow that sort of thing.


http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/359582-bluchampbloggers-ultimate-guide-realistic-football-fifa-09-a-24.html

Sorry for the late reply. Thanks for the link and thanks to Dave for his efforts. I'll give this a go tonight!

:WORSHIP:

[Tim7]

Cheers Placebo, I'm not sure what exact stats need sorting with Bailey, Semedo and Racon, but I know they are grossly underrated. Oh, and Jonjo Shelvey, he's only 16, but he's like England captain already and is a big presence on the pitch. I reckon his overall should be about 65ish :TU:.

Lineup:


Elliot

Murty Fortune Hudson Youga

Soares Spring Bailey Sam

Gray Burton


Subs:
Randolph
Holland
Basey
Dickson
Shelvey

Kickers:
Spring for both corners and free kicks
Burton for penalties


Thanks mate, any help is much appreciated :)).

[Placebo]

Ok I've left feedback in the DB with the formation/lineup. I can't leave player feedback saying "he should be updated" really as it's not sufficient, if you can take a look at their stats and give some suggestions I can try to leave feedback in the DB.

Feedback such as "he should be raised from 59 to 64" is completely useless I'm afraid and should be left to 12 year old Man Utd fans on the EA forums ;) (no offense intended at all, I just like to keep remaking the point as I despise the whole "overalls" thing).

[gurjisfit]

Yup, you're right, it's like playing a brand new game. You actually have time on the ball to buld your attacks realistically, the AI plays much better beacuse not everything is rush rush ping pong press press, you can feel the player stats better.

Playing on all Manual (if you've learned to) though with the tweak is the real clincher, it's so realistic, apart from the shooting which is flawed anyway.

EA should use this as the real "slow" speed setting, for simulation purists. The changes in pace are more realistic, as you say sprinting up the pitch takes longer and it seems bigger and more spacious.

And those who want to try it should save a new squad file, so they don't overwrite the default file, and can switch between the two.

how do you save a new squad file - cheers

[shorty alien]

Go to my fifa 09 profile I think, save/load, sqauds, save a new squad file with a different name. Squads 1 is the default file, the one that gets updated when you go online.

Everytime you want to play with the tweak, load and edit on the new sqaud file, if you want to go back to normal, load squads 1.

[shorty alien]

Placebo is it possible to direct EA's attention to the Bluchamp threads, about universally reducing all teams acceleration, sprint speed and short passing on the slow speed setting by -15?

It's a massive ask but I've outlined the reasons in this threads last few pages, about making the speed more realistic for the simulation purists, gameplay is taken to a whole new level as mentioned above. Also a lot of people have tried this and it's got some support behind it!

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/359582-bluchampbloggers-ultimate-guide-realistic-football-fifa-09-a.html

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/364986-fifa-revolution-update-bluchampblogger.html

[Phat J 22]

hey placebo do you know if everton is going to be bumped up to 4.5 stars after the update? i play in a sim league and i have to pick my team but if i go for everton and they turn into a 4.5 star team i could have a problem.

[drekkard]

Placebo is it possible to direct EA's attention to the Bluchamp threads, about universally reducing all teams acceleration, sprint speed and short passing on the slow speed setting by -15?

What they should really implement is sliders that affect overall stats, as nba 2k9 does! Then it would be so easy to adjust the game to your liking. But that implies some work (you have to be able to share those sliders, for instance, an dso) and they wouldn't make it for Fifa 09. Maybe for Fifa 10, and I really think those sliders are a MUST HAVE for the game as it would open a wide array of things you could do to the game, incresing a lot the longevity and would allow both arcade lovers and realistic freaks to change a little the game as they want.

[gomito#10]

What they should really implement is sliders that affect overall stats, as nba 2k9 does! Then it would be so easy to adjust the game to your liking. But that implies some work (you have to be able to share those sliders, for instance, an dso) and they wouldn't make it for Fifa 09. Maybe for Fifa 10, and I really think those sliders are a MUST HAVE for the game as it would open a wide array of things you could do to the game, incresing a lot the longevity and would allow both arcade lovers and realistic freaks to change a little the game as they want.

EA doesnt do sliders as well as 2k, i think tis a good idea but somehow they will fuck it up

[Placebo]

Placebo is it possible to direct EA's attention to the Bluchamp threads, about universally reducing all teams acceleration, sprint speed and short passing on the slow speed setting by -15?

It's a massive ask but I've outlined the reasons in this threads last few pages, about making the speed more realistic for the simulation purists, gameplay is taken to a whole new level as mentioned above. Also a lot of people have tried this and it's got some support behind it!

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/359582-bluchampbloggers-ultimate-guide-realistic-football-fifa-09-a.html

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/364986-fifa-revolution-update-bluchampblogger.html

My understanding is that they already know about it.

hey placebo do you know if everton is going to be bumped up to 4.5 stars after the update? i play in a sim league and i have to pick my team but if i go for everton and they turn into a 4.5 star team i could have a problem.

Well I know that teams can have their star rating adjusted in this update, I've had permission to improve Leicester's rating for example to match their performance this season (they're currently leading League1 by a long way), so it's possible that if Everton's editor feels an adjustment is warranted they may get it. Although the news that team's are having their star ratings adjusted based on early season performances has probably left Tim rather worried ;)

[shorty alien]

Yup, I'm aware that they know about it, but was wondering whether it was a possibility to include the idea in the update.

[Tim7]

I don't care, we beat Palace last night :)). I've already made my peace with us getting relegated this season anyway.

[Placebo]

Yup, I'm aware that they know about it, but was wondering whether it was a possibility to include the idea in the update.

Why would they include something that's untested on a wide scale and quite possibly counter productive to what they intend Fifa to be about?

You and some people say it makes the game more realistic, maybe it does I don't know I haven't tried it, but EA make Fifa for a mainstream audience, what's more realistic and preferable to some quite possible is slow and annoying and unrealistic to the majority of others. The future of course is in more options and choices and sliders and all that but that's not really the EA way.

[shorty alien]

I agree that it can all be subjective. But EA themselves have tried to appeal to different tastes, that is why they have a choice of three speeds and a choice of assisted/semi/manual controls.

Quite a number of gamers who prefer the slower paced build up of Fifa 08's speed feel shafted. The apparently "slow" speed doesn't feel slow at all, it's more like a watered down but still too similar version of the normal speed, the game still feels too quick, ping pong like and dependent on pace and strength; its not really a slow speed meant for a tactical simulation (which is what I assume they intend by including such a speed).

But then again it's just opinion, but as I mentioned it is getting a bit of support behind it in those threads (and is a general complaint when simulation fans talk about ways to improve Fifa). I'm speaking about editing the slow speed only, not the others that will obviously appeal to different gamers.

The global sliders idea is a good one though, even if i don't expect the actual idea to be implmented the sliders would make the game much easier to customise, as would expanded edit options like PES.

[Placebo]

I prefer the slower pace of Fifa08 but I'm happy with the "slow" setting of Fifa09, the only thing I wish for Fifa09 was that it was harder to break down the opposition in terms of 1on1's, for that I'm probably going to do a formation edit for all Prem/Championship teams once the transfer window roster update comes out as that should be my final new Manager Mode before Fifa10.

[bunsen]

Sorry, but I could not find the answer using the Search function. Is there any way to play slow speed online?

[Placebo]

Only in unranked matches I think?

[bunsen]

Thx :))

[Placebo]

Welcome :)

[Tim7]

What the hell just happened in here?!?!?!!!?? Placebo didn't shout at someone asking a question!?!?!?!?!?

[brunnoce]

i could never feel the diferent speed setings online, i think its mostly due to possible lag..so evan if i feel the speed is diferent ill still think its because of an ocasional lag.

[Nick Cave]

What the hell just happened in here?!?!?!!!?? Placebo didn't shout at someone asking a question!?!?!?!?!?
He did Say he'd tried search...:P

[who me]

Guys i need help. Its my first day with fifa 09 x360 and i dont know how and where i can change lang from my (Polish ) to English :/ I trying to find it in setting but i cant ;/

[CW]

It should give you the language option every time you boot the game, if it doesn't yours might be broken

[Tim7]

Yes, when the game first starts up it will come up with a flag, scroll through right or left until you find the Polish flag, hopefully you have the right version of the game!

[BobbyBox]

Yes, when the game first starts up it will come up with a flag, scroll through right or left until you find the Polish flag, hopefully you have the right version of the game!

He wants to go from Polish to English :ROLL:

So when you start up it should have a Polish flag - Scroll through until you find the British flag :DD

[Phat J 22]

hopefully someone already said this because i didnt notice until right now but daniel sturridge is right footed in the game and hes left footed in real life. its too late to change it right?

[shorty alien]

Bluchamp's tweak is's basically a mod that appeals to some tastes but not to all, I can see Placebo even within the slow speed tastes there are obviously different preferences.

[Placebo]

hopefully someone already said this because i didnt notice until right now but daniel sturridge is right footed in the game and hes left footed in real life. its too late to change it right?

Don't have access to check but I'll ask my EA Contact :)

[Phat J 22]

thank you sir

[Placebo]

Welcome :)

[who me]

I found English :D:D i am rly new xbox user so forgive me for stupid question :D

no more pes in 2009 year :] Konami must make new engine if they want fight with EA.

[pepper63]

Yeah yeah yeah Bronski beat welcome..We love Fifa/we hate Pes is somewhere else..:P

[daveyc17]

Just played a guy as tottenham against man city and beat him 2-1. After the game he sends me a message calling me a cheater because King was just as quick as Robinho and i have 300,000 points.

First off is it even possible to make King as fast as Robinho?

And 300,000 points isn't alot is it?

Its really pissed me off because i hate cheating cunts and then to be called one is just:RANT:

Lol, a fit Ledley King IS faster than Robinho. He's no slouch and used to outpace Terry Henry all the time and also once forced Michael Owen into pulling a hamstring cos he couldnt out-run him after a 2 yard start.

[Placebo]

a fit Ledley King

Isn't that an oxymoron? ;)

[pepper63]

It's a shame about Ledley,a good player but never plays a season without injury> Now if EA really did the game true to life he would play about 4 games a season in MM.

[Placebo]

MM physical simulation is a bug all round, AI constantly sends out squads at 25% fitness, yet they can play the whole match running around for 90 minutes with no apparent issues other than bending over with hands on hips when the ball goes out of play and of course players are never, ever injured for more than 7 days.

[who me]

I dont know what about no FK goals by AI but in my first 60 min with game (world class ) AI scored 3 FK against me :D

[Nick Cave]

MM physical simulation is a bug all round, AI constantly sends out squads at 25% fitness, yet they can play the whole match running around for 90 minutes with no apparent issues other than bending over with hands on hips when the ball goes out of play and of course players are never, ever injured for more than 7 days.



:CURSE::R1 :BLEH: :D

[Placebo]

hopefully someone already said this because i didnt notice until right now but daniel sturridge is right footed in the game and hes left footed in real life. its too late to change it right?

Left with good right foot.

[Phat J 22]

great thanks

[quiet_riot]

I tried manual passing again before, and although I had more success than in the past, I still find that the tele camera means that the margin for error is far too small. I had passes going out of play, behind the guy I wanted, too far in front...arrgh!

[Rob92]

I find that using manual through balls for short-range passes and little first-time flicks and only using the normal passing button for the through balls you want to play ahead of players greatly helps your game on manual settings :).
Oh and you should also nudge your auto-switching up to around 3/4, because I find that it cuts down on your player not "locking on" to the ball and just walking by it.

[evacuate]

I agree, manual normal passes should be used for through balls and longer passes. Through balls should be used for short passes only because they load up to slow. I used to play semi on normal passes and rest on manual but I gave normal passes a chance on manual and they are great when used like this.

I'm going to try this question again: How do you flick up the ball when receiving a pass? I've seen it a couple of times, I think the flick up is knee high maybe.

[Nick Cave]

I agree, manual normal passes should be used for through balls and longer passes. Through balls should be used for short passes only because they load up to slow. I used to play semi on normal passes and rest on manual but I gave normal passes a chance on manual and they are great when used like this.

I'm going to try this question again: How do you flick up the ball when receiving a pass? I've seen it a couple of times, I think the flick up is knee high maybe.
I'm sure pressing R3 with L1 lifts the ball knee high to avoid sliding tackles though I have never managed it, maybe it's that...

[Rob92]

Holding the skill button (default LT) and quickly flicking the analog stick 3 times in the direction the player is facing flicks the ball up, but i'm not sure if that can be done first time.
I have seen the ball flick up randomly when players take some passes, sometimes setting up a volley, but I don't think there is a way to do it deliberately.

[Phat J 22]

yeah ive seen it just happen before as well, it'd be cool if you could set it up yourself though.

[Placebo]

I find that with certain players if you hold the skill stick and flick the analogue stick in an opposite direction from where the pass arrived he'll flick it over, for some reason I can only do it regularly with Wade Small and he's shit, confusing.......

[Ozkar]

MM physical simulation is a bug all round, AI constantly sends out squads at 25% fitness, yet they can play the whole match running around for 90 minutes with no apparent issues other than bending over with hands on hips when the ball goes out of play and of course players are never, ever injured for more than 7 days.

Well, in my MM with Man United, Hargreaves got injured in april and was expected back in august :)) But that is the first and only time it has happened.

[Placebo]

Well, in my MM with Man United, Hargreaves got injured in april and was expected back in august :)) But that is the first and only time it has happened.

Did you play the match or simulate it? I've played 100s of matches and there's never, ever been an injury longer than 7 days.

[Nick Cave]

Did you play the match or simulate it? I've played 100s of matches and there's never, ever been an injury longer than 7 days.
:SHOCK: Yep me too, over 21 seasons now in total in each English Division...

[drekkard]

:SHOCK: Yep me too, over 21 seasons now in total in each English Division...

21 SEASONS???? :SHOCK:

The good thing is you enjoy the game a lot. The not so good thing is that regardless of your skill level, if you had put all this hours into online you would have made it to the top 10. That speaks for itself about how rankings are set up in the online part of the game...

Really, 21 seasons???

[Placebo]

if you had put all this hours into online you would have made it to the top 10. That speaks for itself about how rankings are set up in the online part of the game...


As weird as it sounds there are a few of us that completely don't enjoy playing online, if Fifa only had online I'd be playing PES' ML.

[Nick Cave]

21 SEASONS???? :SHOCK:

The good thing is you enjoy the game a lot. The not so good thing is that regardless of your skill level, if you had put all this hours into online you would have made it to the top 10. That speaks for itself about how rankings are set up in the online part of the game...

Really, 21 seasons???

It's probably more than 21 TBH, we have five hour bashes some 3 or 4 times a week sometimes longer, they soon rack up especially once you have loads of tactics set, you can just tweak things and the fact there is no real depth to MM does not help.
It's sad I hardly ever play online the idiots wind me up and I usually have a mate round playing MM when I have it on anyway...

As Placebo has put so nicely...

[drekkard]

I was being ironic, I don't like very much online. I only play with close friends, unranked matches with different teams everytime and our sami-manual control layout. I don't know if I'have even played any ranked match yet, truly.

But that's ok to me, because online I will onlky play close friends or, in the near future, an online MM mode against all of you, signing your star youth players and selling them to your most bitter rival. That's said!

[PESV]

Hi guys. A while earlier I complained about fifa's framerate. Well, I have had a new insight in the matter. I lended out my PS3 to a friend and when we hooked it on his non-hd tv, and played fifa in 520p(something like that) via scart, the game played like butter. It was smooth and fast like it suppose to be. Incomparable with the hd ready experience. Response times are indeed a framerate issue, believe me. What where they thinking? People with HD tv's only care about graphics anyway?

[nerf]

I find that using manual through balls for short-range passes and little first-time flicks and only using the normal passing button for the through balls you want to play ahead of players greatly helps your game on manual settings :).
This is a really good tip actually, it's helping me a lot. The softer touch of the through-pass button makes short passes a little easier.

[tobi]

I played an exhibition game yesterday with manual passing and it was lovely. I remember trying manual passing in October and hating the experience but since then I've gotten into a rhythm with the game play and it definitely feels a lot better now.

It may be a while before I start playing with manual passing as default but I'll get there eventually.

[Coopz]

When does the February Transfer update normally come out?

[Nick Cave]

A week or two after February 2nd.

From the man who knows...

[Coopz]

Ok Thanks

[BobbyBox]

On the EA sports website - is there only 5 slots for replays? I only have five on it and it doesn't let me put anymore on it? If that is so then that is a big pile of shite!!

[YoungGun_UK]

I just save them to my computer and keep the process going.

[BobbyBox]

I just save them to my computer and keep the process going.

Thats what I am going to have to do. But it is totally fucking stupid that they make you put it onto their website, if you want to keep them - but they only give you 5 spaces?!! - I could have loads on my harddrive - really stupid!!!! Sometimes Fucking EA/Fifa people get on my fucking nerves!!!

[Coopz]

:LOL:

[charlievolano]

A bit off Topic, any news/romours about the usual "FIFA champions league" that usually comes out in March?

I just had a look at the HB Studio but there is no mention of it.

[mjsmith2k]

A bit off Topic, any news/romours about the usual "FIFA champions league" that usually comes out in March?

I just had a look at the HB Studio but there is not mention of it.

There won't be one surely. EA lost the licence to Konami.

[evacuate]

In a way that might just be good for the series if it would have been people from the fifa 2010 team also on the CL team. Oh man I can't wait for 2010 why did I mention it...

[charlievolano]

I wrote in Peter Moore's blog that they should give us a "history of football" fifa with teams from the past....that would be much better than the usual "Road to the World Cup" of "Uefa Champions League"

[Nick Cave]

Yeah I hope they put all their efforts into FIFA 10...

[brunnoce]

winter roster update is coming on friday ;)

[Ozkar]

Did you play the match or simulate it? I've played 100s of matches and there's never, ever been an injury longer than 7 days.

I think I simulated that game. Maybe that's why.

[Nick Cave]

winter roster update is coming on friday ;)

Is it...?

[Placebo]

I think I simulated that game. Maybe that's why.

Exactly.

Is it...?

LOL no, we're not even finished yet!

[Shazam!]

I wrote in Peter Moore's blog that they should give us a "history of football" fifaYeah, that would be dream, although a patch could always be created like the old PES ones.

[brunnoce]

Exactly.



LOL no, we're not even finished yet!


its confirmed placebo ;)
Producer just told me...
the DB will be closed today, friday the update will be out for ps3, 360 and pc on Ea servers.

*remember its gonna be a roster file, not an update.*

[Placebo]

its confirmed placebo ;)
Producer just told me...
the DB will be closed today,

Not what I was just told :)

[Shazam!]

My producer told me that you're all gay.

[brunnoce]

My producer told me that you're all gay.

your mom says hello :)

[Placebo]

your mom says hello :)

No what you'll find she said was "forgive my son he's a fucktard" :)

[Phat J 22]

so when is it coming out for sure? ive read in other places its coming on the 6th but you guys here say after the 13th?

[Placebo]

Friday does seem likely.

[andish2001]

that seems awfully quick because theres still some transfers getting finalised arent there?

[Tim7]

Friday does seem likely.
:LOL: You've changed your tune ;)).

[Placebo]

;)

[brunnoce]

No what you'll find she said was "forgive my son he's a fucktard" :)

:LOL:

[WILDSTER180774]

well i experienced my first match in the snow last night. After 5 months of playing. And because i have now switched my preferred camera mode to broadcast i could see it in game. Although it resembled an episode of Most Haunted (thousands of white orbs) more than snow.

[Shazam!]

No what you'll find she said was "forgive my son he's a fucktard" :)You leave my brother alone.

[Nick Cave]

I take it it's nothing too major then if it's out on Friday...

[Shazam!]

I hope so. I generally don't mind performing the transfers myself but there are always ones I miss.

[brunnoce]

I take it it's nothing too major then if it's out on Friday...

belive me , u gonna love this
all the trasnfers has been done, major or minor!!
besides a lot of atributes and apperances updates...
i just can wait to try it :)

[WILDSTER180774]

is the update released yet?

[Nick Cave]

Eh!!, is it today, I thought they meant next Friday...

[Nick Cave]

That means I'll have to start a new MM...

[Placebo]

Yep same here, I'm quite in limbo at the moment, for the past 2-3 weeks every day has been wake up, do Fifa data editing, now for the first day I have off in ages I want to play some Fifa, but I can't until the new update is out, but even when it's out I then have to do all the free transfers + edit every championship/Premiership team's formation to put the CB's as far back as they'll go :)

[Nick Cave]

Yep same here, I'm quite in limbo at the moment, for the past 2-3 weeks every day has been wake up, do Fifa data editing, now for the first day I have off in ages I want to play some Fifa, but I can't until the new update is out, but even when it's out I then have to do all the free transfers + edit every championship/Premiership team's formation to put the CB's as far back as they'll go :)
Does that stick Placebo, I mean changing the AI's formations...

[Placebo]

Hmm well lineup changes stick, so I can't see any reason why editing the default formation wouldn't stick......

[Nick Cave]

Hmm well lineup changes stick, so I can't see any reason why editing the default formation wouldn't stick......
I'll have to give it a go then, is it just in the edit teams menu...

[WILDSTER180774]

i thought someone posted that its out today. I dont know myself. Hope so.

[Placebo]

Yeah same place you change their lineups, strategies and the rest. I was tempted to edit their pressing settings but then you just end up making every team a clone, so I figure pulling the CBs of every team back to the goal line should be enough, if they don't have a high attacking mentality they should be much harder to break down, but if they start chasing a goal and attack more then and only then should the spaces arise.

[Nick Cave]

Yeah same place you change their lineups, strategies and the rest. I was tempted to edit their pressing settings but then you just end up making every team a clone, so I figure pulling the CBs of every team back to the goal line should be enough, if they don't have a high attacking mentality they should be much harder to break down, but if they start chasing a goal and attack more then and only then should the spaces arise.
:TU:
I'm going to give it a go tonight...

[brunnoce]

i thought someone posted that its out today. I dont know myself. Hope so.

it will be up today(its supposed to be out tonight), gotta wait a bit since Ea studios are in canada and its not evan 7am there yet i think.

[BobbyBox]

I hope they haven't made Arsenal shit!

[gomito#10]

it will be up today(its supposed to be out tonight), gotta wait a bit since Ea studios are in canada and its not evan 7am there yet i think.
its 542 am there right now... but not sure why that matters.... IT guys work all sorts of weird hours, but you would think they would release it at midnight

[Tim7]

There's no update out yet. Will it be a whole game update? i.e. It will prompt you when the game first boots up. Or will it be a squads file update?

[Placebo]

Will it be a whole game update?

No.

Or will it be a squads file update?

Yes.

So you'll get it for online use by choosing to play an online match (you don't have to go all the way through to playing it), or creating a custom session such as for BAP.

For offline use the only way you get it is by downloading the latest ALS update.

[Tim7]

ALS?

[Jumbo_]

Adidas Live Season

[Tim7]

Ah, makes sense.

[Placebo]

It's living in Singapore that does it, they turn everything into an acronym over there ;)

[Chris Davies]

No sign of the update, if the Canada team is going to be releasing it later on then surely we (in Europe) won't get it until tomorrow? Nobody will be updating the European marketplace at this time surely?

Gutted, I was looking forward to this and the Race Pro demo today, neither have arrived. :(

[phrase]

It's living in Singapore that does it, they turn everything into an acronym over there ;)

Are you still staying in Singapore,Placebo?

[Placebo]

Sweden since May 10th 2008 :)

[Phat J 22]

No.



Yes.

So you'll get it for online use by choosing to play an online match (you don't have to go all the way through to playing it), or creating a custom session such as for BAP.

For offline use the only way you get it is by downloading the latest ALS update.

so if i want to play manager mode and use the updated stats i need to buy the adidas live update? that cant be right.

[Placebo]

That's how it was for the September update, the only way to save the updated data offline to use in manager mode was through the ALS menu, of course you use the free code off the manual to get 1 league free and technically it doesn't cost money for the free update........

[Tim7]

Gutted, I was looking forward to this and the Race Pro demo today, neither have arrived. :(
It won't be on marketplace mate.

[Placebo]

Still not released yet.......

[brunnoce]

:(
damn canada time zone!

[andish2001]

wait so what do i do exactly to get this update? The next time I download my ALS form, you're saying that it will include arshavin at arsenal AND updated appearances? that cant be right. And unfortunately, i was one of the suckers who paid for all leagues and then proceeded to receive only the premier league (btw is there a fix for this?) - will it update all my leagues or only the premier league? And what about the championship, who arent in the ALS - is it still updated? seems very odd to me why cant they just offer a new squads file for fucks sake.

[gomito#10]

wait so what do i do exactly to get this update? The next time I download my ALS form, you're saying that it will include arshavin at arsenal AND updated appearances? that cant be right. And unfortunately, i was one of the suckers who paid for all leagues and then proceeded to receive only the premier league (btw is there a fix for this?) - will it update all my leagues or only the premier league? And what about the championship, who arent in the ALS - is it still updated? seems very odd to me why cant they just offer a new squads file for fucks sake.

that has been fixed for awhile... yes i think the championship is updated...

[andish2001]

well it aint fixed for me bud

[brunnoce]

still nothin?

[andish2001]

doesnt appear to be anything

[brunnoce]

doesnt appear to be anything

well, it still not 6pm in vancover i think...so its still due to release...
its been said it would be released late today on vancover(Ea studios) time.

[andish2001]

As a side note does anyone know how I can fix my ALS problem? (see my post above). Ive reinstalled it as it states in the EA forums yet still cant download any other league apart from the EPL. They have ticks on them as ive unlocked them but they never download, and clicking "update all leagues" never works either.

[andish2001]

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/386620-winter-roster-update.html not today it seems

[aitk3n]

"When will we get it?"

At this point I don't know.
The bug was found minutes before it was going live.
It'll require QA etc once the bug is fixed - so I'd anticipate being early next week.

Again - my apologies.

D

:CONFUSE:

[Phat J 22]

That's how it was for the September update, the only way to save the updated data offline to use in manager mode was through the ALS menu, of course you use the free code off the manual to get 1 league free and technically it doesn't cost money for the free update........
what do you mean through the als menu because im not paying for all the als updates. are you sure this is how it works? i thought once i loaded the updates from a ranked match it worked everywhere else as well. damn, whats the point of that?

[andish2001]

see theres all sorts of problems with this. Lets boycott ea and then complain about having 0 football games instead.

[Disqo]

see theres all sorts of problems with this. Lets boycott ea and then complain about having 0 football games instead.

Pro Evo and FM are around

[Placebo]

what do you mean through the als menu because im not paying for all the als updates. are you sure this is how it works? i thought once i loaded the updates from a ranked match it worked everywhere else as well. damn, whats the point of that?

This is how it worked for the September update when it was released October 6th last year.

You only need 1 activated league in ALS, when the update is out, and you click "DOWNLOAD LATEST UPDATE", the squad file will be the newest one for every league, and of course will also include ALS data for the league you have active.

The online squad file is now kept separate and hidden from the Offline squad file and is only stored and used for online matches.

Pretty gutted it's delayed until next week, wanted to start a new manager mode and the wife had promised me the 360 all weekend!

[aitk3n]

Pretty gutted it's delayed until next week, wanted to start a new manager mode and the wife had promised me the 360 all weekend!

:LOL: thats wounding

[Phat J 22]

so i can still upload the new league stats to my offline save?

[Placebo]

Eh?

[Tim7]

What a suprise, EA let us down again :ROLL:.

[Phat J 22]

i mean i can get the new stats for my offline play if i download the update from the als menu?

[Placebo]

i mean i can get the new stats for my offline play if i download the update from the als menu?

Yes.

[Phat J 22]

and will they be the default or will i have to do this everytime i boot the game like it is for regular updates?

[Placebo]

Once you save the updated squad file it will become the default squads until you choose the option "reset squads to default" which then takes them all the way back to how they were on the original disc.

[Phat J 22]

okay cool, cant wait til it comes out. iv been wanting to start a new mm for awhile now.

[StayingPower]

I just played Euro 2008 again, I almost prefer it; it has better buildup and it's not as easy to just get a one-on-one. The only thing is the goalie's are too good.

[goalgerd]

whens the new winter update out?

[aitk3n]

http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=48801&page=331

[goalgerd]

http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=48801&page=331

its still not updated was online 2 hours ago

[aitk3n]

mate look at my post,

the update says next week ;)

[AK.Rabona]

On a side note,

I just tried the double tap technique and wow! That stuff is bad-ass! Just scored a bunch of goals 1on1 and other awesome goals.

[Placebo]

Told ya ;)

[WILDSTER180774]

if ea want to leave out eboue then thats fine with me.

[phrase]

On a side note,

I just tried the double tap technique and wow! That stuff is bad-ass! Just scored a bunch of goals 1on1 and other awesome goals.

What double tap?

[Placebo]

What double tap?

Search for "double AND tap".

[OPM]

is the update a pure roster update or is there the slight chance of for example an updated west ham sponsor? :)

[Placebo]

Brent Spiner only.

[Chris Davies]

Brent Spiner only.
To save Google from an overload of searches for Brent Spiner, he played "Data" in Star Trek apparently. I know you're still on the run Placebo but you only need to talk in code on your dodgy places. ;)

Still no update I see, was looking forward to starting a new game today as well...

[Placebo]

To save Google from an overload of searches for Brent Spiner, he played "Data" in Star Trek apparently. I know you're still on the run Placebo but you only need to talk in code on your dodgy places. ;)


;)

[Placebo]

The worst part about waiting for the update is having to read the EA forums to see if there's any news, I think my IQ drops every time I have to visit there, 90% of posters there are the most immature children imaginable.

[brunnoce]

The worst part about waiting for the update is having to read the EA forums to see if there's any news, I think my IQ drops every time I have to visit there, 90% of posters there are the most immature children imaginable.

:LOL:
thats completly true!
that forum is just a fat huge bad taste JOKE.

[Nick Cave]

I'm going for a big edit when it finally surfaces...

[AK.Rabona]

Yeah thanks Placebo, I got it from your message and it's doing me wonders. Just yesterday I was cursing nonstop online because I was losing everygame 1-0 even though I had about 20 more positions than my opposition.

[Tim7]

UPDATE IS OUT!

[YoungGun_UK]

Nice :D

[StuartCulli]

IT'S OUT!

[StayingPower]

Really? Damn, House is on so I won't have 360 access tonight!

[Tim7]

WOOHOOO

[StayingPower]

It doesn't seem to be out here in the States. I've tried updating my ALS and downloading the online squad file via a Ranked match and neither has worked. :(

[StayingPower]

Wtf this is so annoying, how do we download the damn thing for offline/single player use?

[andish2001]

For those having trouble getting it to work for offline use, simply download it via als. So Reset all squads first, then ALS > download latest update. If you havent enabled als you need to do so now via the code on your manual. downloading it this way it will automatically save as the default squads. Of course, there are some strange bugs with the transferred players as there are with every fifa transfer update, for example if you have say quaresma in the arena (recently transferred) and play a match, when it returns to the menus he will be in portugal stuff, althogh if you go to squads hes still at chelsea. fifa updates always been like that its a tad strange.

anyway the update seems ok, ive already found a few errors but meh

[Phat J 22]

so are we doing a free agent list or just using the old one? i need to find the old one first.

[StayingPower]

Thanks andish that sorted me. I'm a bit dismayed at some of the ratings but it's good to have the update.

[Placebo]

so are we doing a free agent list or just using the old one? i need to find the old one first.

Not exactly hard to find ;)

http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=49679

[KK22+10]

I have a question this update is available in all location on 360 & PS3( America, Europe, etc) and the patch for fix number 2 bug in Manager Mode is not available anymore?

[Phat J 22]

yeah i just finished putting them all in the game a minute ago. theres some problems with a lot of the players on that list though, the finder finds them but all their stats are scrambled and they're registered as goalkeepers.

[DagsJT]

Is there a couple of errors or a load? Is it worth starting a thread to compile the transfers that we need to correct?

[Phat J 22]

i meant errors within the game, not the list. although there are a few players at different clubs, a lot of the korean players play for the j-league teams now.

[WILDSTER180774]

any noticable likeness changes to any of the top players?

[wan_d7]

err...i just updated the ALS.why is it gerrard is in striker position? is he always in that position?

[brunnoce]

damn, they didnt give fat ronaldo a real face! :(

[DagsJT]

err...i just updated the ALS.why is it gerrard is in striker position? is he always in that position?

He plays as a support striker for Liverpool so I guess that'd be why?

[WILDSTER180774]

anyone?...has Samir Nasri of Arsenal had a makeover? Cant download the update just yet as im off to work in a minute

[tobi]

Anyone know how long the servers are down for?

[wan_d7]

oh..as i see in the ALS they stated he as the team of the month striker with Torres. but in the team management he still a CM. well,that's cool me down.hehe.as seeing Gerrard as a striker freaks me out.

[andish2001]

Nasri's appearance has NOT been improved, at least as far as I can tell. Ronaldo did not receive a real face because that would be stored as an image file, or as placebo calls it, an "art asset" :P which wasnt applicable to the update. There are some EXTREMELY strange errors which have come with this update. Some goalkeepers for example have been ditched from their regular teams into free agents, have strange hex symbols as their squad number and have an overall rating of 0. The search function is also having a few difficulties with regards to the recently transferred players as well.

Although contrary to what ive said above, there are reports that Atlante's shirt has been updated, which would be an art asset so now im really confused.

[brunnoce]

Nasri's appearance has NOT been improved, at least as far as I can tell. Ronaldo did not receive a real face because that would be stored as an image file, or as placebo calls it, an "art asset" :P which wasnt applicable to the update. There are some EXTREMELY strange errors which have come with this update. Some goalkeepers for example have been ditched from their regular teams into free agents, have strange hex symbols as their squad number and have an overall rating of 0. The search function is also having a few difficulties with regards to the recently transferred players as well.

Although contrary to what ive said above, there are reports that Atlante's shirt has been updated, which would be an art asset so now im really confused.

i know all about the Db x art assets...
i thought though, that ronaldo's real face was already in the game, just not assigned.

[DagsJT]

There are some EXTREMELY strange errors which have come with this update. Some goalkeepers for example have been ditched from their regular teams into free agents, have strange hex symbols as their squad number and have an overall rating of 0. The search function is also having a few difficulties with regards to the recently transferred players as well.

That's very shoddy.

[Tyler]

Is it possible to remove or change the ALS league?

I activated ALS for the first time last night to get the update and chose the EPL but now Team Management always has arrows even with ALS turned off in the advanced options.

Apparently deleting Fifa from the memory on the 360 HDD prompts you to pick a league again for ALS (I'd like to pick a league I don't use)

However, I don't really want to lose all my formations so can anyone say which file specifically needs deleting for it to re-prompt the ALS update?

In Memory on my 360 there are these three files:

Online Squad - 3MB
Squads 1 - 1MB
Personal Settings 1 - 92kb

Are my formations stored in Personal Settings?

[Placebo]

For those not sure how to get the data update I wrote a blog post: http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/2009/02/fifa-09-data-update-get-it-now.html

[Shazam!]

Ta, duck.

[Chris Davies]

How's everyone finding the update, any issues (apart from the ones andish2001 has already mentioned)?

Bizarrely I've not seen those problems andish2001 is talking about, but I've got a problem nonetheless - my manager mode game now takes 20 seconds to save (I've had to switch autosave off, otherwise you're looking at a minute of loading time from getting out of a match, looking at transfers and loading the next fixture). The music cuts off and the Xbox freezes until the end of the process.

This may be the Xbox on the blink rather than the update but this wasn't happening two nights ago...

Otherwise I'm very, very happy with it - they've updated the Tranmere stats wonderfully (thanks Placebo ;))), Curran who is practically a first team player now has had his stats up whereas a few others who are underperforming have been knocked down, and all of the appearances are now spot on. So I'm really happy to start a new manager mode game (when I can fix the above problem anyway) and I'm really happy with what EA are doing with their database. Pisses all over the PES database and is at least equal to the FM database IMO. Gives the game such depth.

[Placebo]

Yay me!

Remembered another edit I plan to do, remove every goalkeeper from every team's subs bench, seeing as GK's are never sent off/injured it's pointless to have them there, by giving the AI an extra outfield sub it might reduce the amount of times they bring an LB on for a RW.......

[DagsJT]

EVERY team?

[DagsJT]

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[Placebo]

EVERY team?

Well no, every Championship/Premier League team as they're the ones I'll face most in my Sheff Weds manager mode

[tobi]

The stats for some Spurs players after the update are baffling, Bent, Lennon and Palacios are all the highest @ 84 whilst Modric and JD are both 76.

Our first choice LB is now rated at 69 whilst our out of form LB (Gareth Bale) is rated higher at 70. Jermaine Jenas is a 83 whilst the rock solid Corluka is 78.

How do EA rate players? What things to they take into consideration?

EDIT: In online games the stats are a bit different, in all honesty we shouldn't be a 4 and a half team.

[luke909]

Agbonlahor's got slower.

[Placebo]

yeah i just finished putting them all in the game a minute ago. theres some problems with a lot of the players on that list though, the finder finds them but all their stats are scrambled and they're registered as goalkeepers.

I'm also finding such issues.

This is from a search for "castro" for example:

http://www.picpanda.com/images/3e405o06oudjqcdu0j.jpg


Also there's 2x A. Eremenko Jr. in the DB and in the Finnish squad.

http://www.picpanda.com/images/x7fqxgj7dto4fvx1y1d.jpg

[Phat J 22]

yup, i just added one of them and said whatever. it sucks though, theres a bunch of the scrambled stats guys.

[DagsJT]

So much for delaying the data update because they found a last minute bug. How didn't anyone spot these errors yet people on here have found them so soon?

[brunnoce]

maybe they did, but they couldnt fix it as fast as the comunity wanted this update...

[DagsJT]

It looks worse to release such a buggy update than take an extra day to tidy up though, surely?

[jamxo]

Unrelated to the update but is it possible to set up an offline league with a bunch of teams for me and my friends to play for an extended period of time?

For example six of us choose teams, and then it creates a league table with points, goals, games played, who plays who next etc?

I know there is a lounge mode but that is pretty silly and doesnt have a realistic league structure.

[aitk3n]

also put ian harte with st.mirren, the transfer didnt even go through..

[velvetsky01]

The New ultimate team looks great! just like the champs league!