FIFA 09 PS3/360 Discussion Thread

[Bitter Rivals]

it doesn't but it was 1 paragraph and maybe the fifa team want to announce that bit @ leipzig if not atleast the structure is there this year

thats my train of thought aswell

just hope that is right, would be immense

[BillyBoy]

Would be great if its true.

[sweetkilla]

It is the feature I wanted after hearing a rumour on the fifa 09 boards 20 days ago so its good it has been confirmed! if that last bit with created players been able to be used online exists the amount of depth in the game bar manager mode been the same is greatly improved! and if the gameplay is a good 15-20% improved from fifa 08 then It will be ''the 1st true next gen football game''

[wan_d7]

yeah..way to go FIFA..i'm betting my money on you! ^^ :LOL:

[sweetkilla]

Watching gamespot stream about fifa 09 they will be detailing the mode more extensively in leipzig so I can presume that means we can use created players they said they are focusing on online so they may have another mode for both games as they said leipzig is for the big fifa announcements and then a ps3 exclusive :)

[Bitter Rivals]

http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/sports/fifasoccer09/video/6195924/fifa-manager-09-gameplay-movie-1?tag=;title;3

http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/sports/fifasoccer09/video/6195925/fifa-manager-09-gameplay-movie-2?tag=;title;2

[TikTikTikTikTik]

LMAO, those videos are really crap........

[Bitter Rivals]

regarding the online stuff sweetkilla, here they talk about fifa skip to 86mins to see the start of it, and a question directed at him at 89.35 and from the guys reaction i would deffo agree that we will have the nhl and nba features announced soon :)

http://uk.gamespot.com/shows/on-the-spot/?tag=topslot;action;1

[sweetkilla]

regarding the online stuff sweetkilla, here they talk about fifa skip to 86mins to see the start of it, and a question directed at him at 89.35 and from the guys reaction i would deffo agree that we will have the nhl and nba features announced soon :)

http://uk.gamespot.com/shows/on-the-spot/?tag=topslot;action;1

yeah! can't wait I think PES blew their trumpet abit early forgetting FIFA still have atleast 2 more mode's to announce... (excluding ea sports league)

[Oli]

What the hell was that second video about. What are they celebrating?

[Milanista]

Cant really see anything from those vids, apart from the tricks looking very mechanical and the fake GK kit!

[riboflavin]

They did that in Fantastita on WE10 or 11

Hopefully they add it in this

No, you dont want that. Starting on the bench and having to watch the entire game (whether you put it in double speed or not) is incredibly boring and frustrating as you watch the AI flounder about doing nothing. If they get you to start on the bench, it needs to just cut in when you get subbed in. Starting on the bench and not getting subbed in was the worst part of Fantastita mode no doubt.

[Placebo]

Or at least cut it down to highlights or something......

[danhammer]

ahhhhhhhhh, can't stand the fact EA don't have goalkeeper kits in

[Dr Force]

Its quite an issue with the keeper kits clashing with the away kits sometimes.It detracts from the realism IMO and could do with some attention PDQ.

[Placebo]

I know it's an issue that's been raised internally but sadly they don't consider it a priority.

[Dr Force]

I know it's an issue that's been raised internally but sadly they don't consider it a priority.

seriously though, I can't see how difficult, time consuming or exspensive it would be.Quit right its not a priority but its hardly a difficult thing to code.

[Placebo]

Well the lack of correct keeper kits is down to budgeting issues, as for a non-clashing type system there seems to be no programming of any kind to factor in kit clashing, half the time I go to the next away match where I'm playing against a blue shirted opponent and they select my home shirt by default.......

[Jamezinho]

Well the lack of correct keeper kits is down to budgeting issues, as for a non-clashing type system there seems to be no programming of any kind to factor in kit clashing, half the time I go to the next away match where I'm playing against a blue shirted opponent and they select my home shirt by default.......

They could allow the player to choose keeper kits the same way you can choose outfield kits before the match. Problem solved.

Seriously though, if a team of patchers can get all the kits looking fantastic in a relatively short space of time (thinking back to the PES PS2 days), why can't the massive team at EA?

I don't buy the budgeting excuse.

[winston]

Well the lack of correct keeper kits is down to budgeting issues, as for a non-clashing type system there seems to be no programming of any kind to factor in kit clashing, half the time I go to the next away match where I'm playing against a blue shirted opponent and they select my home shirt by default.......

Interesting you should say that. I generally only play online and one thing I'd become aware of is how in so many matches, at least one of the keepers kits will clash with the opposition shirts. It happens with such frequency that it's as if they have deliberately coded it so that the keeper take on the same colour shirt of the opposition.

[reddevils]

Whats people on about? even FIFA 08 had official goalkeeper kits

I know United and Chelsea's GK kits were official

[Jamezinho]

Whats people on about? even FIFA 08 had official goalkeeper kits

I know United and Chelsea's GK kits were official

Did you play with any other teams? Teams with official GK kits were very much in the minority.

[Terry_Butcher]

I wish we could edit GK kits so that, at least, they didn't clash with outfield kits. Obviously no copyright problems with this solution.

[Charlie Kauffman]

It is a little odd that EA do not sort out having offical numbers, fonts and GK kits. It can't be too difficult can it?

[danhammer]

Did you play with any other teams? Teams with official GK kits were very much in the minority.

haha quality, majority of people i play online are man utd, chelsea, barcelona or inter milan

[TikTikTikTikTik]

Its all down to budget. The projectmanger gets a certain amount and its at his discretion to hand it out to the different departments. From what I have read both years now (08 and 09) they have had the majority go towards the gameplay/engine department and a limited amount going towards the graphics department and whatever other department they have.

Cant say these little things bother me much. I would rather they keep upgrading the gameplay/engine significantly. Still it wold be nice if they can sort out these little things aswell in the near future (...Les Artes......Les Artes EA!)

[Placebo]

I wish we could edit GK kits so that, at least, they didn't clash with outfield kits. Obviously no copyright problems with this solution.

Yeah it's a real shame the edit mode in Fifa is so shockingly basic, it's all well and good having an external database team who work on player/team data and stats but if your favourite player of your favourite team completely changes his hairstyle for example in October you're stuck with his old style until February and the data update, obviously that's a minor example but still.....

[danhammer]

spot on placebo, edit mode needs to be so much better than it currently is

[Jamezinho]

Yeah it's a real shame the edit mode in Fifa is so shockingly basic, it's all well and good having an external database team who work on player/team data and stats but if your favourite player of your favourite team completely changes his hairstyle for example in October you're stuck with his old style until February and the data update, obviously that's a minor example but still.....

I used to delight in changing David Beckham's hairstyle every other week back in the good old days of PES! :))

The editor should give you the freedom to customise everything such as hairstyles, untucked shirts, ankle tape, boot editor, running and free kick style, shirt name and number fonts, as well as a setting for the home stadium of every team. It's all basic stuff and can add so much to the game, like it does with PES. That way EA can let the fans do some of the hard work.

Perhaps because of the comprehensive licensing EA feel the fans are and happy don't want to customise the game?

[Radiation]

I don't see what their problem is - let us edit whatever the hell we want offline - online we have to use the default EA data.

[pepper63]

I know it's an issue that's been raised internally but sadly they don't consider it a priority.Not sorting the keeper kits to me is like getting the morning paper,going into your bog sitting having a good shit,wiping your arse and then throwing the shitty paper on the floor..It don't make sense!:-pp

[danhammer]

pepper63 you have a way with words my friend

[Placebo]

I used to delight in changing David Beckham's hairstyle every other week back in the good old days of PES! :))

The editor should give you the freedom to customise everything such as hairstyles, untucked shirts, ankle tape, boot editor, running and free kick style, shirt name and number fonts, as well as a setting for the home stadium of every team. It's all basic stuff and can add so much to the game, like it does with PES. That way EA can let the fans do some of the hard work.

Perhaps because of the comprehensive licensing EA feel the fans are and happy don't want to customise the game?

Yeah I think it probably is that, probably a little bit of arrogance in a "oh we've got all the licenses, PES doesn't, that's why they need an edit mode and we don't", it's definitely the wrong attitude to have.

EA get some things very, very right, and some things very, very wrong, that's where we as consumers, or we as advocates in our positions at FSB or Sweetpatch or any of the other Fifa community sites have a responsibility to use our voice and our reach to make sure the message is spread about what the gamer on the street wants:

That we want a full edit mode whether the licenses are there or not.

That we want to be able to edit with no stat limitations.

That we want licensed GK kits or at the very least some edit function to avoid the clashing.

That we want to be able to save replays to our HDD and not forced to interrupt our matches for 10 mins in the middle of a game to battle with EASW.

That we want to be able to choose 3rd kits/balls and boots without having to unlock them in a silly shop.


Phewww! The last point they listened to and all the stuff is unlocked by default, so it shows they will listen and learn from us if we keep talking to them and telling them what we want :)

[YoungGun_UK]

Honestly i cant wait for FIFA 09 now! After being given a taste and now not having a footie game is just unbearable :((

[TikTikTikTikTik]

So when can we expect a demo? Halfway through september? Or earlier?

[Bitter Rivals]

Honestly i cant wait for FIFA 09 now! After being given a taste and now not having a footie game is just unbearable :((

did you notice any super cancel in this game..

on the pes series you could cancel out of scripted runs, which would allow you to let the ball run across your body, redirect an attackers scripted run, stop running after a ball that is going out of play, and this worked really well on pes giving near total control of the player

fifa 08 had a cancel, which allowed you to stop running towards a ball going out of play, but it was far from ideal for letting the ball run across your body or stopping scripted runs

wondering if there is an improvement on this in fifa 09?

[Placebo]

So when can we expect a demo? Halfway through september? Or earlier?

September 11th apparently.

[Chris Davies]

I'll put this in here because I'm genuinely worried about putting it in the PES thread for fear of being called a fanboy or God knows what...

I've been playing PES2008 on the PC and PSP this week, with the PC version edited to slow the players' speed and acceleration down 35%, and the PSP version being a decent speed straight out of the box.

THREE THINGS PES DOES BETTER

1) In PES I was under pressure from the defence so I just hit a hard low shot from miles outside the box in desperation. It went in (not because of poor goalkeeping or a bug, because it was a good hard shot), and for a second I was thinking "that shouldn't have gone in, that's not right" - because in FIFA it is impossible to score from certain angles, the keeper has it covered 100% of the time. Which obviously isn't realistic, and also means in PES practically every goal is different, whereas in FIFA practically every goal is the same.

2) Crosses in PES (on the PSP at least) are hard, well-struck crosses with venom, and if you get your head on it, you can really smack it into the net. On FIFA it's very hard to hit a hard cross, and bullet headers are very very rare.

3) The CPU AI in FIFA and Euro is terrible. PES does it so much better, not because it's particularly spectacular programming but because it's done properly. In FIFA, as any Premier League team, you beat every team on semi-pro and every team beats you on professional (obviously I'm generalising, some players will play on world class difficulty I'm sure, but this is based on what me and my friends all experience). So you choose Liverpool and against the likes of Wigan, or even Championship sides, you lose (not just "occasionally" or "most of the time", 99% of the time).

In PES I chose Portsmouth and I was drawing most games and winning/losing 1-0 on occasion. I chose Liverpool and I've won five in a row - on the same difficulty. THAT WOULD NEVER happen in FIFA. People say it's because the stats mean less in FIFA, and I agree - buy good players in PES and it makes a massive difference, in FIFA you might as well keep the same team forever. But I think the bigger problem is that the difficulty levels are only concerned with going easy on you or beating you, no matter what team is against you.

THREE THINGS FIFA DOES BETTER

1) The physics and the engine is stuck in last-gen territory. You can say "give them time" but Konami have said themselves that a new engine won't be around until PES2010 at least. It's not just a bit old-fashioned, it's very old fashioned, with passes dropping onto an invisible rail and being "sucked in" to players' feet, deflections magically dropping to the CPU over and over, and no chance of interrupting the script 90% of the time. What pisses me off the most is those situations where YOU KNOW what's coming. If the game lets you win a tackle in a certain area, the ball is going to deflect away to another CPU player. If it lets you win it again, it will do the same again. That's how the good teams win; because the game gives them the most luck compared to other teams. Against Wigan more tackles will result in you winning possession, against Arsenal it will take miraculously powerful deflections and land at another player's foot time and time again. FIFA is so much more realistic and so much more fun to play, IMO.

2) While the AI obviously has some kind of balance in PES, with good teams winning and bad teams losing, there are so many scripts that ruin the match, and limited controls that don't allow deviation. In PES, if you try to pass to a teammate and the game decides the CPU is going to get it, rather than go slightly off-course and the CPU player intercept it, it goes straight to the CPU player - which is not only infuriating but it looks ridiculous, as if your players have all been bunged.

3) I've missed six open goals in PES within a couple of games, all because when I tap the shoot button (as lightly as is humanly possible, honestly), it flies over the bar. Now I know stats mean more in PES than they do in FIFA and you need fantastic players; but if Peter Crouch, a Premier League striker, can't roll a ball into the back of an empty net, then something is wrong.

This is about the controls though; everything is so automatic and after playing FIFA/Euro for 12 months and going back to PES, it's like stepping back in time. Everything is decided for you. Now depending on your point of view, that could be a realistic thing or totally unrealistic; you could argue that a Premier League footballer is good enough to do everything "automatically", it's not the same process as Sunday League footballer, and perhaps that's how FIFA feels when you take on a team like my beloved Tranmere and you occasionally misplace a pass or put too much weight on a ball and kick it off the pitch. But personally I prefer that because it's MY fault the pass went wrong, MY fault I just knocked someone in row Z's teeth out. Not because the CPU decided it was "fate".

THREE THINGS NEITHER DOES BETTER

1) When the CPU needs to cheat, both games give invisible barriers to opposition players and drug your defenders. You can stand next to a player, press the stab-tackle button, and he will either bounce off like he's ran into a wall or run in the opposite direction. If you play another human, it doesn't do this.

2) The Master League in PES hardly represents a real league structure; you can't buy players in your first pre-season, the finances ("points") are fake and don't mirror a real currency which makes it difficult to know just how much you're paying, you can only play in the first or second division (whereas I like to take teams from the lower league to the top league in FIFA and Football Manager), the teams that come up from the lower league aren't teams from the country you're playing in meaning you have a Premier League with French/German/Scottish etc. teams in, you can only manage one club in your career etc...

But in FIFA, the manager mode is sterile, especially at a lower level. That level of player all feel the same as I've already mentioned, so you might as well not bring any new players in. Every team's stadium at this level is the same, so mix that in with the fact that every player feels the same, and you're left with the feeling of playing the exact same match over and over. Also, there's no playoffs, which is ridiculous in a fully-licensed game, and even though you can switch clubs, you can choose any team you want - so after a season with Chester City you can manage Chelsea.

3) Because of the above CPU frustrations you turn to online play. In PES players disappear and reappear all over the pitch, the netcode is awful, and lag is a big issue (looking at the problems Konami had with Metal Gear Online, this is something that is effecting all Konami games). Also, in PES, all you can do is one-off games. No leagues or competitions - the online leagues and Euro knockout cup in FIFA/Euro were things I have wanted to see in a football game for longer than I've been a member on Evo-Web.

In FIFA the reaction times are a waste of space, and the same (but to a lesser effect) in Euro, along with matches that last too long and ridiculous scorelines because of the attackers having too big of an advantage over the defenders.

This was all about gameplay, hence why lack of teams in PES, poor faces in FIFA etc. wasn't talked about; because gameplay comes first as far as I'm concerned

[Milanista]

In PES, stat changes are very sensitive and actually can be felt. Good players will actually feel very good compared to crap players. But what annoys me with PES' way of balancing bad and good teams is the fact that they always make 'crap' teams really slow, which makes it harder when you play a better team, as you'd almost always get beat to the ball.

They assume that a team like Hull can't have players faster than anyone on Arsenal.

[wan_d7]

Chris,you spot it on.. myself as a PES fan,i hate PES2008. the cpu always always always(there's more always) cheat. when they feel like losing,they will do anything,including getting a easy free kick which i didn't commit,it's my CPU teammates who did it,and he barely touch him. it feels like,everything already been set up by the cpu,like they know what you gonna do after this;pass the ball,turn to right or left,EXACT TIMING sliding tackle. gosh..it's so frustrating. i rather go back to pes 5 even i hate the referee which is so sensitive but the gameplay is much realistic(for that current game)
this year all my heart is for FIFA09. if it's good i'm gonna be a fifa-pro ^^
else,back to pes i guess =(

[Dusse]

Neither FIFA or PES does a very good job scouting the smaller clubs. Most of all, they for some reason belive that players in bad teams can't be fast or strong. I fucking hate when Charlie Davies (2* team), who might just be the fastest player I've ever seen play football, has speed of 80..

[Jore2]

Neither FIFA or PES does a very good job scouting the smaller clubs. Most of all, they for some reason belive that players in bad teams can't be fast or strong. I fucking hate when Charlie Davies (2* team), who might just be the fastest player I've ever seen play football, has speed of 80..

Yeah, while D.Suazo still played in Cagliari they had him slower than players like Riquelme or so...

And otherwise while it should feel different to play Messi and Ameobi, they should be realistically different in areas where they are different in reality.

Both games should improve their shooting, I think PES shooting is a bit too easy, at least have been before. And as addition they made these "superstars are shooting hard, because they are superstars". We don't need arcade game where top players are hard shooters(like Henry is shooting harder than lets say Taye Taiwo...).

So yes, scouting is very crappy compared to lets say Football Manager(SI game).

[AsterNzeyii]

When do we get some info of FIFA 09 on Leipzig ?

[Nick Cave]

When do we get some info of FIFA 09 on Leipzig ?

The 2008 Games Convention dates for 2008 will be August 20-24, so nothing till then...

[sweetkilla]

Leipzig =
FIFA 09 Presentation (Comparison with fifa 08 again maybe)
FIFA 09 Official Trailer
Teaser
EA Sports Locker Feature Explained in Depth
EA Sports League Explained in Depth
1-2 Other Game Mode's announced (One a PS3 exclusive)

[jonneymendoza]

Leipzig =

1-2 Other Game Mode's announced (One a PS3 exclusive)

i HIGHLY doubt that the ps3 exclusive is a game mode mate:LOL:

[Chris Davies]

I noticed at the Sunderland v Liverpool game today, the "LET'S FIFA 09" adboards flashed up "PLAYSTATION3" at the side, but no mention of XBOX 360... Wonder how much Sony have paid them for that...

[sweetkilla]

i HIGHLY doubt that the ps3 exclusive is a game mode mate:LOL:

It is a game mode (as far as I know) it may just be a shite one

[sweetkilla]

I noticed at the Sunderland v Liverpool game today, the "LET'S FIFA 09" adboards flashed up "PLAYSTATION3" at the side, but no mention of XBOX 360... Wonder how much Sony have paid them for that...

its because sony have a deal with EA for the FIWC it used to be xbox 360 boards everywhere :)

[jonneymendoza]

I noticed at the Sunderland v Liverpool game today, the "LET'S FIFA 09" adboards flashed up "PLAYSTATION3" at the side, but no mention of XBOX 360... Wonder how much Sony have paid them for that...
was on the arsenal game also. what new game mode could possibly be shit? i thought the exclusive was just some minor thing like a exclusive team or league or something of that sort like in top spin 3. a whole mode? LOL i will believe it when i see it

[sweetkilla]

you know a mode can be minor... like be a pro offline all you did was play a 1 off match and get a rating at the end of the game and that was considered a mode last year..

An update to the official FIFA Soccer Blog has revealed that the exclusive mode heavily touted for the PlayStation3 version of FIA 09 will be unveiled at the forthcoming Leipzig Games Convention.

also in a video interview david rutter states a ''mode''


it could just be an FIWC mode where you can use to fiwc teams and play in a fiwc stadium lol no matter how crap it is some mode is exclusive

[jaygrim]

I noticed at the Sunderland v Liverpool game today, the "LET'S FIFA 09" adboards flashed up "PLAYSTATION3" at the side, but no mention of XBOX 360... Wonder how much Sony have paid them for that...

They gave a date as well but i didn't catch it?

[Chris Davies]

October 3rd.

[YoungGun_UK]

I hope the WENB when at Leipzig also try FIFA, Since i played the same version as Adam It would be nice to see how the feels this newer build has improved.

[sweetkilla]

I hope the WENB when at Leipzig also try FIFA, Since i played the same version as Adam It would be nice to see how the feels this newer build has improved.

Adam said that the build played at I34 was more recent than the one suff played in vancouver either way they will be at the PES Stand more than the fifa stand and I embark on my journey to leipzig on monday the no.1 thing I want to check out is now response times! after it been a mixed bag of opinions @ 134!

[Bingham67]

I hope the WENB when at Leipzig also try FIFA, Since i played the same version as Adam It would be nice to see how the feels this newer build has improved.

Adam not going not sure about Suff they have playtest of PES on Monday though. :))

[WILDSTER180774]

nice to see the fifa09 ads at the Emirates yesterday. More entertaining then the Gunners. God we were poor. I was so high up i was considering throwing myself off out of pure frustration.

[Radiation]

If it's a mode... it can't be something to do with HOME as that's not out yet - maybe it's a motion sensitive thing then where you tilt the pad left/right and do things like add curve to the ball or you pull the pad left/right to make the keeper dive around in a sort of goal keeper challenge.

Like those old PES challenges where you take free kicks and aim for the targets.

[OPM]

i've been away for the past 2 weeks, any groundbreaking news that surfaced?

[TikTikTikTikTik]

If it's a mode... it can't be something to do with HOME as that's not out yet - maybe it's a motion sensitive thing then where you tilt the pad left/right and do things like add curve to the ball or you pull the pad left/right to make the keeper dive around in a sort of goal keeper challenge.

Or a cardgame connected to home......

Can't see it being anything more then very very basic/simple.

[YoungGun_UK]

Adam said that the build played at I34 was more recent than the one suff played in vancouver either way they will be at the PES Stand more than the fifa stand and I embark on my journey to leipzig on monday the no.1 thing I want to check out is now response times! after it been a mixed bag of opinions @ 134!

Yeh I now, the build I played was newer then the build Suff played, I wanted to now if Adam was going to go to Leipzig since he also played the same build as me and it would have been nice to hear his views on a newer build. (But since I now know he isnt going its irrelevant) :((

[Lami]

Who cares mate. Were having a demo soon. That's what counts ;)

[WILDSTER180774]

why is there a severe lack of info coming out of FSB. Thought we would have seen some more footage or pics. Suff did say he was going to post stills of the improved player likenesses but i have yet to see any. Maybe its because there has been news on Pro Evo and after all thats where their loyalties lie so Fifa09 has been put behing in the priority department. Its been all about the logo comp for the past few days.

[Lami]

I think Placebo has already given a reason.

I'm not sure if they've all been posted yet, but Suff has to receive them from Adam, edit and convert them, then upload to my FTP and then I have to mirror them and post them with hugely entertaining and fantastic blog posts, it's quite time consuming you know ;)

Also considering Adam works at Ubisoft and is no doubt in the midst of GC preparations.
Suff is in the midst of doing his PHD.
I'm working for Bohemia Interactive in the midst of GC preparations, plus I'm way behind schedule on my Fifa09 data editing tasks (due in no small part by getting zero help from Sheffield Utd fans).

So there's my list of excuses, pretty decent I'm sure you agree ;)

[WILDSTER180774]

well i have a job too you know yet i still find to come on here........only joking!

[evacuate]

To many posts without talking about the nets!

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/1484431/

Actually looks like the nets in FIFA.

[Bitter Rivals]

Yeh I now, the build I played was newer then the build Suff played, I wanted to now if Adam was going to go to Leipzig since he also played the same build as me and it would have been nice to hear his views on a newer build. (But since I now know he isnt going its irrelevant) :((

BUMP

.....................

Honestly i cant wait for FIFA 09 now! After being given a taste and now not having a footie game is just unbearable :((

did you notice any super cancel in this game..

on the pes series you could cancel out of scripted runs, which would allow you to let the ball run across your body, redirect an attackers scripted run, stop running after a ball that is going out of play, and this worked really well on pes giving near total control of the player

fifa 08 had a cancel, which allowed you to stop running towards a ball going out of play, but it was far from ideal for letting the ball run across your body or stopping scripted runs

wondering if there is an improvement on this in fifa 09?

[sweetkilla]

I think I remember suff saying if you ran in the direction you wanted to quick enough you could break out of those scripted runs well hopefully that is the case will be able to tell you later on this week and as for the nets I think they will be the same as 08

[jonneymendoza]

To many posts without talking about the nets!

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/1484431/

Actually looks like the nets in FIFA.
i like many dont care about nets :LOL:

[cowden_harley]

jonney you know how to hurt a man.

[jonneymendoza]

jonney you know how to hurt a man.
wow are you serious? a person can be hurt over NETS? :LOL:

[SPMC]

i've been away for the past 2 weeks, any groundbreaking news that surfaced?

yeah, it's the return of the full training mode. for PS3.
freekick training with 'dummy wall'.

:DANCE:


just kidding!
:LOL:

[evacuate]

OK enough about the nets...

http://www.gameplayer.com.au/gp_documents/EA-Buys-Euphoria.aspx?catid=Features

A rumour about EA buying Euphoria/NaturalMotion. Imagine FIFA with Euphoria.

For those who don't know what Euphoria is you can read about it on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphoria_(software)
It was used in GTA 4 and is also used in the upcoming Star Wars game.

[sweetkilla]

OK enough about the nets...

http://www.gameplayer.com.au/gp_documents/EA-Buys-Euphoria.aspx?catid=Features

A rumour about EA buying Euphoria/NaturalMotion. Imagine FIFA with Euphoria.

For those who don't know what Euphoria is you can read about it on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphoria_(software)
It was used in GTA 4 and is also used in the upcoming Star Wars game.

Leipzig they may announce it :)

[Lami]

From the collision it looks like they are using some kind of engine though

[sweetkilla]

From the collision it looks like they are using some kind of engine though

what are you talking about ? fifa 09 they made a collision system for it but it would be 10x more impressive with euphoria each tackle been different... as they would be buying NaturalMotion also...

and if EA start to use Euphoria in their Sports Games (if they are not already in fifa 09) it will be ridiculously amazing! every tackle been different to the other just brings endless possibilities to a game like Madden and NHL

[evacuate]

There would also be no more clipping. If a player was shooting but a leg got in between he would hit the leg (and probably fall over) since animations are dynamic. One can only dream.

Even if they buy the technology it would take a couple of years I think before they manage to fully implement it. I guess they could use it in small amounts in the beginning like when players get tackled. But to fully implement it would probably be pretty hard to get it realistic. In GTA 4 and from what I have seen from the Indy and Star Wars games everyone seems to have really bad balance. If you touch someone in GTA they start wobbling around trying not to fall to the ground.

Oh well, it's always fun with rumours like this.

[AsterNzeyii]

This evening I've played FIFA 08 again, this time with manual controls. It took 2 à 3 matches to learn it, but my last match (Arsenal - Rome) was the best i've ever played. The trough passes are just brilliant. Now it's very hard to wait until FIFA 09 comes out !

[mjsmith2k]

I'll put this in here because I'm genuinely worried about putting it in the PES thread for fear of being called a fanboy or God knows what...

I've been playing PES2008 on the PC and PSP this week, with the PC version edited to slow the players' speed and acceleration down 35%, and the PSP version being a decent speed straight out of the box.

THREE THINGS PES DOES BETTER

1) In PES I was under pressure from the defence so I just hit a hard low shot from miles outside the box in desperation. It went in (not because of poor goalkeeping or a bug, because it was a good hard shot), and for a second I was thinking "that shouldn't have gone in, that's not right" - because in FIFA it is impossible to score from certain angles, the keeper has it covered 100% of the time. Which obviously isn't realistic, and also means in PES practically every goal is different, whereas in FIFA practically every goal is the same.

2) Crosses in PES (on the PSP at least) are hard, well-struck crosses with venom, and if you get your head on it, you can really smack it into the net. On FIFA it's very hard to hit a hard cross, and bullet headers are very very rare.

3) The CPU AI in FIFA and Euro is terrible. PES does it so much better, not because it's particularly spectacular programming but because it's done properly. In FIFA, as any Premier League team, you beat every team on semi-pro and every team beats you on professional (obviously I'm generalising, some players will play on world class difficulty I'm sure, but this is based on what me and my friends all experience). So you choose Liverpool and against the likes of Wigan, or even Championship sides, you lose (not just "occasionally" or "most of the time", 99% of the time).

In PES I chose Portsmouth and I was drawing most games and winning/losing 1-0 on occasion. I chose Liverpool and I've won five in a row - on the same difficulty. THAT WOULD NEVER happen in FIFA. People say it's because the stats mean less in FIFA, and I agree - buy good players in PES and it makes a massive difference, in FIFA you might as well keep the same team forever. But I think the bigger problem is that the difficulty levels are only concerned with going easy on you or beating you, no matter what team is against you.

THREE THINGS FIFA DOES BETTER

1) The physics and the engine is stuck in last-gen territory. You can say "give them time" but Konami have said themselves that a new engine won't be around until PES2010 at least. It's not just a bit old-fashioned, it's very old fashioned, with passes dropping onto an invisible rail and being "sucked in" to players' feet, deflections magically dropping to the CPU over and over, and no chance of interrupting the script 90% of the time. What pisses me off the most is those situations where YOU KNOW what's coming. If the game lets you win a tackle in a certain area, the ball is going to deflect away to another CPU player. If it lets you win it again, it will do the same again. That's how the good teams win; because the game gives them the most luck compared to other teams. Against Wigan more tackles will result in you winning possession, against Arsenal it will take miraculously powerful deflections and land at another player's foot time and time again. FIFA is so much more realistic and so much more fun to play, IMO.

2) While the AI obviously has some kind of balance in PES, with good teams winning and bad teams losing, there are so many scripts that ruin the match, and limited controls that don't allow deviation. In PES, if you try to pass to a teammate and the game decides the CPU is going to get it, rather than go slightly off-course and the CPU player intercept it, it goes straight to the CPU player - which is not only infuriating but it looks ridiculous, as if your players have all been bunged.

3) I've missed six open goals in PES within a couple of games, all because when I tap the shoot button (as lightly as is humanly possible, honestly), it flies over the bar. Now I know stats mean more in PES than they do in FIFA and you need fantastic players; but if Peter Crouch, a Premier League striker, can't roll a ball into the back of an empty net, then something is wrong.

This is about the controls though; everything is so automatic and after playing FIFA/Euro for 12 months and going back to PES, it's like stepping back in time. Everything is decided for you. Now depending on your point of view, that could be a realistic thing or totally unrealistic; you could argue that a Premier League footballer is good enough to do everything "automatically", it's not the same process as Sunday League footballer, and perhaps that's how FIFA feels when you take on a team like my beloved Tranmere and you occasionally misplace a pass or put too much weight on a ball and kick it off the pitch. But personally I prefer that because it's MY fault the pass went wrong, MY fault I just knocked someone in row Z's teeth out. Not because the CPU decided it was "fate".

THREE THINGS NEITHER DOES BETTER

1) When the CPU needs to cheat, both games give invisible barriers to opposition players and drug your defenders. You can stand next to a player, press the stab-tackle button, and he will either bounce off like he's ran into a wall or run in the opposite direction. If you play another human, it doesn't do this.

2) The Master League in PES hardly represents a real league structure; you can't buy players in your first pre-season, the finances ("points") are fake and don't mirror a real currency which makes it difficult to know just how much you're paying, you can only play in the first or second division (whereas I like to take teams from the lower league to the top league in FIFA and Football Manager), the teams that come up from the lower league aren't teams from the country you're playing in meaning you have a Premier League with French/German/Scottish etc. teams in, you can only manage one club in your career etc...

But in FIFA, the manager mode is sterile, especially at a lower level. That level of player all feel the same as I've already mentioned, so you might as well not bring any new players in. Every team's stadium at this level is the same, so mix that in with the fact that every player feels the same, and you're left with the feeling of playing the exact same match over and over. Also, there's no playoffs, which is ridiculous in a fully-licensed game, and even though you can switch clubs, you can choose any team you want - so after a season with Chester City you can manage Chelsea.

3) Because of the above CPU frustrations you turn to online play. In PES players disappear and reappear all over the pitch, the netcode is awful, and lag is a big issue (looking at the problems Konami had with Metal Gear Online, this is something that is effecting all Konami games). Also, in PES, all you can do is one-off games. No leagues or competitions - the online leagues and Euro knockout cup in FIFA/Euro were things I have wanted to see in a football game for longer than I've been a member on Evo-Web.

In FIFA the reaction times are a waste of space, and the same (but to a lesser effect) in Euro, along with matches that last too long and ridiculous scorelines because of the attackers having too big of an advantage over the defenders.

This was all about gameplay, hence why lack of teams in PES, poor faces in FIFA etc. wasn't talked about; because gameplay comes first as far as I'm concerned

Bang on there CB! (Jack ;)))

Out of all three games (FIFA 08 (PS3), PES 2008 (PC), PES 2008 (PSP)), I preferred PES 2008 on the PSP. It seemed to have a good balance of those attributes you've identified. The only problem that stuck with me on the PSP was the d-pad/analogue stick... those damn controls.

Sorry for taking the thread out of context.

[Jamezinho]

On the subject of 'Super cancel', has anyone seen/heard anything about dummies in Fifa 09? (i.e. letting the ball run through the players legs when receiving a pass)

This used to be a great feature in PES.

[Trance_Allstar]

On the subject of 'Super cancel', has anyone seen/heard anything about dummies in Fifa 09? (i.e. letting the ball run through the players legs when receiving a pass)

This used to be a great feature in PES.


I seen to remember hearing something to this affect, together with a function for running along a pass rather than trapping (which you would do in PES by holding R1 and the same direction as that of the incoming pass.

Still haven't seen a video of it though so it is only theoretical at this point.

[Jamezinho]

Thanks! Sounds good.

[YoungGun_UK]

BUMP

.....................



did you notice any super cancel in this game..

on the pes series you could cancel out of scripted runs, which would allow you to let the ball run across your body, redirect an attackers scripted run, stop running after a ball that is going out of play, and this worked really well on pes giving near total control of the player

fifa 08 had a cancel, which allowed you to stop running towards a ball going out of play, but it was far from ideal for letting the ball run across your body or stopping scripted runs

wondering if there is an improvement on this in fifa 09?

Sorry man i forgot to reply earlier, I actually didnt try the supercancel if im honest, didnt really think of it when i was playing it, but what i did like was when someone passed you the ball if it was or or heavy they would slow down to get it or would stretch a leg to try and get it under control if it was over hit.

[sweetkilla]

adios guys I embark on my journey to leipzig :)

[Lami]

Enjoy sweetkilla and have a safe trip

[TikTikTikTikTik]

Dont forget to post loads and loads of impressions ;)

[jonneymendoza]

Bang on there CB! (Jack ;)))

Out of all three games (FIFA 08 (PS3), PES 2008 (PC), PES 2008 (PSP)), I preferred PES 2008 on the PSP. It seemed to have a good balance of those attributes you've identified. The only problem that stuck with me on the PSP was the d-pad/analogue stick... those damn controls.

Sorry for taking the thread out of context.
well said CB. totaly agree. psp imo is the best version of football.wish they could implement wifi online multiplayer.

everything CB said i totaly agree and cant add anything to it. well said

[jonneymendoza]

If it's a mode... it can't be something to do with HOME as that's not out yet - maybe it's a motion sensitive thing then where you tilt the pad left/right and do things like add curve to the ball or you pull the pad left/right to make the keeper dive around in a sort of goal keeper challenge.

Like those old PES challenges where you take free kicks and aim for the targets.
thats not realy a mode but more like a exclusive "feature" though.

[JayD]

LOL Jonney is dying for an exclusive PS3 mode but is trying to contain his excitment LMFAO.

[reddevils]

its gonna be interactive league FFS

if anyone thinks it will be a mode that will add alot to the game then they are in crazy land

[jonneymendoza]

its gonna be interactive league FFS

if anyone thinks it will be a mode that will add alot to the game then they are in crazy land
interactive leagues? wasnt that on fifa 08?

[reddevils]

interactive leagues? wasnt that on fifa 08?

yeah 360 exclusive (?)

but microsoft ended their partnership and now sony probably bought the rights

[jonneymendoza]

yeah 360 exclusive (?)

but microsoft ended their partnership and now sony probably bought the rights
no that feature was in the ps3 also. right?

[BillyBoy]

You are getting confused between interactive leagues and the FIFA Interactive World Cup. As for the PS3 exclusive it could have something to do with HOME like a FIFA 09 game space. Or perhaps an indoor 5-a-side mode played with your HOME avatars in football kits....but then I would be dreaming. :-pp

[andish2001]

From my sources, the exclusive PS3 feature is that it will have slightly jagged edges everywhere, several different (!) adboards and a poor frame rate.

[Placebo]

Oh please don't, you'll set Jonney right off :(

[Radiation]

Interactive league?

On fifa 08 ps3 they had that thing where you picked your fave team and then each week played fixtures as them - is that the same thing?

[TikTikTikTikTik]

Can we expect any new info from liepzig this week? Or will it be mostly vids and impressions?

[jonneymendoza]

Interactive league?

On fifa 08 ps3 they had that thing where you picked your fave team and then each week played fixtures as them - is that the same thing?
i have the 360 version and that was the so called interactive league you have just described. if that was it. it was by far NOT a 360 exclusive so we can pencil out that piss poor idea of it being a ps3 exclusive lol.

From my sources, the exclusive PS3 feature is that it will have slightly jagged edges everywhere, several different (!) adboards and a poor frame rate.


i can always get the 360 version mate. i have both consoles so im not bothered LOL

[Radiation]

Had a thought and here's 2 options

A mode to link your fifa data to psp - are ea making any ea games on the psp this year? fifa 09? But that's not really a mode is it?

Or probably more likely - a youtube upload feature for goals - but is that classed as a mode?

I class 'mode' as something like 'be a pro'

[Bitter Rivals]

http://www.game.co.uk/lowdown.aspx?lid=9658&cm_mmc=update-_-wk2908-_-review-_-FIFA09

[Chris Davies]

Well I wouldn't have thought a GAME preview would have been worth reading, but:
FIFA 09 actually feels more of a sim than PES 08’s more arcade-like offering

He's got some bollocks to say that.

[TikTikTikTikTik]

Eurogamer said the same thing last year.

[Chris Davies]

Not many do, hell hath no fury like a fanboy scorned.

[Jamezinho]

Well I wouldn't have thought a GAME preview would have been worth reading, but:


He's got some bollocks to say that.

Just don't let the guys in the PES thread see it.:))

[jonneymendoza]

http://www.game.co.uk/lowdown.aspx?lid=9658&cm_mmc=update-_-wk2908-_-review-_-FIFA09
??:SS

[Nick Cave]

http://www.game.co.uk/lowdown.aspx?lid=9658&cm_mmc=update-_-wk2908-_-review-_-FIFA09

Great it's better than PES 2008, mind you Paper, Rock, Scissors was better than PES 2008...

[Rob92]

It just shows how stupid these game reviewers are, only calling this one a "PES beater" when FIFA 08 was far superior to the shitty PES 08...

[Placebo]

You mean the next gen version of Paper, Rock, Scissors or the wii version?

[Nick Cave]

You mean the next gen version of Paper, Rock, Scissors or the wii version?

Is that the true next gen or the current gen game engine with next gen graphics... I need to lie down... :))

[YoungGun_UK]

It just shows how stupid these game reviewers are, only calling this one a "PES beater" when FIFA 08 was far superior to the shitty PES 08...

Probably cause PES08 sold more than FIFA.

[Placebo]

My "Easycap" arrived today for capturing video footage direct from the 360, will be testing it later to see how it captures, only SD but I'll be able to record better footage than the shakeycams floating around all over the place (not that we at FSB don't appreciate them of course!) :)

[sweetkilla]

Probably cause PES08 sold more than FIFA.

Now in Germany having to use a bypass proxy as the hotel blocks this site for some reason!

Anyway FIFA always outsells Pro Evo YoungGun :)

[sweetkilla]

You are getting confused between interactive leagues and the FIFA Interactive World Cup. As for the PS3 exclusive it could have something to do with HOME like a FIFA 09 game space. Or perhaps an indoor 5-a-side mode played with your HOME avatars in football kits....but then I would be dreaming. :-pp

Correct

Interactive league was on both consoles last year and will be the same this year!

As for Indoor arena they already said this is something they haven't considered for fifa 09 but maybe next year.. as for it been home that is a possibility I think the FIFA Interactive World Cup Mode is the best one to bet on now as we have 0 information and the only thing we know is exclusive to sony (ATM) is that competition

[Chris Davies]

Now in Germany having to use a bypass proxy as the hotel blocks this site for some reason!

Anyway FIFA always outsells Pro Evo YoungGun :)
It used to, but there were figures from one of the games stat-trackers that said at least one recent PES outsold FIFA, in the UK or Europe.

[sweetkilla]

It used to, but there were figures from one of the games stat-trackers that said at least one recent PES outsold FIFA, in the UK or Europe.

Probably true but I was talking about overall world wide sales :)

[YoungGun_UK]

Well it might have or might not have but im sure PES sales have gone up rather than down.

[Blaccat]

FINALLY!!!!

All ur videos in one place, Euro and fifa08 :applaud:

http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/profile/3158990/videos

[Radiation]

Quick random thought about EA stopping us saving our replays.

They want us to have to upload them to EASW for their own marketing purposes. I assume they're fearful that if we saved them to our HDDs then we wouldn't need EASW and wouldn't upload them.

But if you want to show off you replays - which would probably be why you saved it in the first place - you'd either cap the footage with a cap card or upload them to EASW.

If they're blocking us saving to the HDD to block people with cap cards - well... if they have cap cards they'll be able to record it as they scored the goal anyway?

So all they are really doing is pissing off the fans who cant record their own footage.

What the hell is the point of that?

[adelante]

FINALLY!!!!

All ur videos in one place, Euro and fifa08 :applaud:

http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/profile/3158990/videos

So wait, new video uploads from hereon can be found there? Cos i don't see my old videos up in the new site...

[Placebo]

Don't see mine either, just Euro ones, I hate EASW. Let us save our replays to HDD. What did Fifa fans do to be punished unlike Skate/Tiger Woods fans? Why? Why? Why? :(

[mjp]

@ Placebo - perhaps it's something to do with a copyright issue?

Just trying to think of legit reasons to a totally incomprehendible situation!

[J79]

have we had confirmation that replays can't be saved to the console? sorry to ask a simple question but i'm sure i've read conflicting reports.

it would be stupid if we're stuck with the same system as last year, ffs i've been able to save replays locally since kick off 2 on the amiga why not in this generation?

[Placebo]

@ Placebo - perhaps it's something to do with a copyright issue?

Just trying to think of legit reasons to a totally incomprehendible situation!

Naah I really can't see that, you're saying something like clubs won't give permission for their licenses to be used outside the game or whatever?

have we had confirmation that replays can't be saved to the console?

Yes.

Wepeeler posted this on the Official Fifa09 forum:

Let me end any speculation.

It's not going to be included in the FIFA series. Not in 09 and not in 10. I was told to never expect it in the FIFA series future...

:sick:

[J79]

cheers for responding placebo :)
i know this isn't a MASSIVE deal and i'll buy the game regardless but not being able to save replays to your console is fucking disgusting.
i thought after seeing the theatre feature in halo3 that something similiar would become standard in all video games.
SWOS let you save the highlights of a whole game if you wanted to, that was 10+ years ago!

[Blaccat]

All your old fifa videos stay on the old site, and any video you upload from about the 10th would be on the new link

[Blaccat]

Don't see mine either, just Euro ones, I hate EASW. Let us save our replays to HDD. What did Fifa fans do to be punished unlike Skate/Tiger Woods fans? Why? Why? Why? :(
I believe there will be an option to upload them onto youtube also just incase EASW isnt working

[Placebo]

cheers for responding placebo :)
i know this isn't a MASSIVE deal and i'll buy the game regardless but not being able to save replays to your console is fucking disgusting.

Indeed.

The worst part of it (excluding the technical problems that we've had to suffer since the launch of EASW including times where no matter how much we try we cannot get a replay uploaded) is that it completely interrupts the flow and enjoyment of the game you're playing, you play for a while, having a fantastic end to end match, really tense, you score an amazing goal to take the lead, then you have to interrupt the game for 10 minutes whilst you battle with the server to upload the damn thing, then you have to go back into the game and somehow instantly get back up to speed with the game and the action. It simply destroys the good that EA are doing in making such an awesome game of football. It is a completely counter-productive decision.

[Placebo]

I believe there will be an option to upload them onto youtube also just incase EASW isnt working

Where did you get that from?

[Blaccat]

Where did you get that from?
Rutter kinda mentioned it, when he was asked about why fifa hasn't got the save replay feature.

[Placebo]

Ok thanks, shame they'd choose a site that has just about as bad performance as uploading to EASW. My upload maximum is 1mb/s and to youtube I get max 50kb/s :(

[Blaccat]

Ok thanks, shame they'd choose a site that has just about as bad performance as uploading to EASW. My upload maximum is 1mb/s and to youtube I get max 50kb/s :(
It just makes better sense to save the video to your HDD, then upload it when you have the time to

[Placebo]

Exactly, even if they don't want us to save permanently we should be able to choose 20 second segments which they save to the HDD's cache, once the match is finished and you go to the MOM/stats section you also have "process highlight reel", you go there and then delete/upload your replays all at once. If you change your mind you just choose "exit" and you go back to the regular menu.

[J79]

although in the minority, those without an internet connection are screwed then. i don't understand stupid decisions :(

[Milanista]

EASW sucks. Does anyone know if replays are still mute?

[airjoca]

Don't know if it's real but the graphical style is accurate...

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/4533/14889132ba3.jpg

[Rob92]

EASW is good to share replays, like I wouldn't have been able to take videos of some of my goals to show my mates over the internet but uploading them makes it as easy as giving a link. On PS1/2 you had to get your mates round to your house if you wanted to show them a great goal you scored :-pp.

I don't understand it though when a game like skate (also made by EA) has the option to save to HDD AND upload to "skate reel" (which is basically the same as EASW).

Doesn't matter too much I suppose.

[Coopz]

they wouldn't put an international shirt on the front

[TikTikTikTikTik]

Naah I really can't see that, you're saying something like clubs won't give permission for their licenses to be used outside the game or whatever?


Is it though? Pesfan had to take down an optionfile with kits. Can see similar reasoning behind it tbh.

Also that youtube thing, isn't the ps3 going to have youtube in Home or something like that? Will LittleBigPlanet use it? Im sure Ive read it somewhere.

[airjoca]

they wouldn't put an international shirt on the front

http://ps2world.net/loja/images/Fifa%20Soccer%202007.jpg

http://www.fifa4fans.de/downloads/screens7/fifa07_cover1.jpg

http://baxaj.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/fifa2008wii.JPG

http://www.fifa4fans.de/pre_network/fifa08/screenshots/cover_germany_neutral1.jpg

[Coopz]

My cover aint like that and i have never seen any of them before

[airjoca]

Well, I don't know if the german ones are made up, but the american cover usually has a Mexican national player on it.

[Blaccat]

Exactly, even if they don't want us to save permanently we should be able to choose 20 second segments which they save to the HDD's cache, once the match is finished and you go to the MOM/stats section you also have "process highlight reel", you go there and then delete/upload your replays all at once. If you change your mind you just choose "exit" and you go back to the regular menu.

It seems like they didnt think this feature through

[Milanista]

My cover aint like that and i have never seen any of them before

They're regional. Italy has a different cover too.

[MadbaLL]

gf8800 with 3gb of ram for recommended configuration (as said by fifa09 producer on gamingaccess.com)????? are the f*****g crazy or what????? call of duty 5 will not require such a configuration!!!! those guys at ea sports are crazy! i'm so pissed off...

[Ferraritim]

Just buy a Xbox360/Ps3. They are almost as cheap as a new videocard.

[Blaccat]

Just buy a Xbox360/Ps3. They are almost as cheap as a new videocard.
....every few months

[Rob92]

gf8800 with 3gb of ram for recommended configuration (as said by fifa09 producer on gamingaccess.com)????? are the f*****g crazy or what????? call of duty 5 will not require such a configuration!!!! those guys at ea sports are crazy! i'm so pissed off...That's RECOMMENDED, that is probably for maximum settings...

As Ferraritim said, getting a console would be better anyway as the console versions of FIFA are the best football games available at the moment :)).

[hellenes]

That's RECOMMENDED, that is probably for maximum settings...

As Ferraritim said, getting a console would be better anyway as the console versions of FIFA are the best football games available at the moment :)).

I dont whant to repeat what dirty harry said about the opinion...

[cowden_harley]

We need news. Look what we have decended into. Talking about gfx cards. Come on leipzig

[jonneymendoza]

We need news. Look what we have decended into. Talking about gfx cards. Come on leipzig
all will be revealed tomorrow. are there any live streams from the event that we can all tune into?

[Bingham67]

http://media.1up.com/media?id=3598046&type=lg

Seems a small space from pic might be deceiving.

[Radiation]

Are they having big press conferences or is this basically smaller booths?

Someone who is going to the event is posting a live blog here
http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=b_EN_Lepizig_blog&thread.id=1

He's updating / adding to it while he's at the event - best ive found so far

[Bingham67]

I think EA got conference tommorow morning so no doubt be shown off then and also got the booth above.

[Nick Cave]

That does look a bit, last minute thrown together kind of stand...

[sweetkilla]

the fifa 09 area is alot bigger and nicer than the picture shows it is quite big when you get to see the whole fifa 09 space.

Be great to try out pes2009 tomorrow also will do a mini comparison article tomorrow :)

[WILDSTER180774]

nice one sweetkilla. The Fifa Vs Pro battle has never been more tense.

[airjoca]

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/149720080818_154332_4_big.jpg

More booth (other game) pics here: http://www.gamekyo.com/news28606_games-convention-2008-premieres-photos-des-stands.html

[LOGANiSE]

gf8800 with 3gb of ram for recommended configuration (as said by fifa09 producer on gamingaccess.com)????? are the f*****g crazy or what????? call of duty 5 will not require such a configuration!!!! those guys at ea sports are crazy! i'm so pissed off...

LOL that can't be for real. A footy game would never require such high specs. Fifa is not Crysis. (LOL xD)

[MadbaLL]

LOL that can't be for real. A footy game would never require such high specs. Fifa is not Crysis. (LOL xD)

that's what producer of fifa 09 PC said on gamingaccess.com interview... it's ridiculous for a sports game to have such high recommended configuration... it's apsurd...

[WILDSTER180774]

just logged in to EAFW and saw this.

As you may know, Leipzig Games Convention starts on 20th August. EA will be showing off its new titles, including FIFA09.

If you're lucky enough to be attending the convention, make sure you stop off at the EA stands, where you'll be able to get a hands-on demonstration of FIFA09, as well as upload your FIFA09 videos to Football World for all the rest of us to see.

Each day of the competition, we'll be picking videos that we feel best show off FIFA09, and putting them up as featured videos. Each day, vote on the ones that you like the most, and at the end of the convention Football World's community favourites will be displayed for an extra week, giving you a good heads-up on what to expect in the near future.

Enjoy the footage- and maybe see you at Leipzig!

so tune in and see some more vids. Im sure they will differ to what we will se on here

[Bingham67]

Interesting look forward to seeing them. :))

[pepper63]

That does look a bit, last minute thrown together kind of stand...Could not give a toss, they can have a phone booth stand as long as the shit plays like a winner.

[hanakuka]

Could not give a toss, they can have a phone booth stand as long as the shit plays like a winner.

Exactly:DANCE:

[pepper63]

Fifa 09 should take some of the cut scenes from 06RTWC. Been playing it and the replays are cool.

[jonneymendoza]

FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 HURRY THE FUCK UP AND GET RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gameklip]

i agree.

[airjoca]

FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 FIFA09 HURRY THE FUCK UP AND GET RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!

You took the words out of my mind, translated them into English, and posted them here.

The football season is starting all over Europe, which makes the pain even worse...

[Jamezinho]

The football season is starting all over Europe, which makes the pain even worse...

Yes. Yes it does.

All those new kits and new transfers, makes you want the new footy games even more.

[Rob92]

Yeah, the next few weeks leading up to the release of FIFA 09 will go very slowly, with all the real football going on :((.

[pepper63]

Seriously 06 RTWC got refs and linesmen,you can pass into space,players scramble to their feet when tripped,good bootpack, and some great tumbles when you tackle.I have' nt played this for about 2yrs but it reminds me of FK. So what happened to 07? 09 just has to be the best this time..

[Jamezinho]

Seriously 06 RTWC got refs and linesmen,you can pass into space,players scramble to their feet when tripped,good bootpack, and some great tumbles when you tackle.I have' nt played this for about 2yrs but it reminds me of FK. So what happened to 07? 09 just has to be the best this time..

I was thinking about this game the other day. Much under-rated in my opinion and visually very impressive considering it was an early next-gen game.

[pepper63]

Honestly the stadiums look cool,the refs have different coloured shirts each game,the detail for the grass is very impressive so why can't they buid of the best of the previous titles?

[sweetkilla]

FIFA 06 RTWC was based off of PS2's fifa game engine so certain things were always going to be there and look good with upgrades graphics... for example player faces look alot better in that game and body physique look much better I guess the modelling was easier with last gen technique which is why pes is ahead in tht department atm..

anyway 9 hours till I get to taste fifa 09 muah hahahahaha night

[Chris Davies]

:( I know we'll get to hear your opinions, which is great, but still :(

[Jamezinho]

anyway 9 hours till I get to taste fifa 09 muah hahahahaha night

Have fun mate.:beer:

[Bingham67]

FIFA 06 RTWC was based off of PS2's fifa game engine so certain things were always going to be there and look good with upgrades graphics... for example player faces look alot better in that game and body physique look much better I guess the modelling was easier with last gen technique which is why pes is ahead in tht department atm..

anyway 9 hours till I get to taste fifa 09 muah hahahahaha night

Have fun looking forward to your impressions :))

[Blaccat]

FIFA 06 RTWC was based off of PS2's fifa game engine so certain things were always going to be there and look good with upgrades graphics... for example player faces look alot better in that game and body physique look much better I guess the modelling was easier with last gen technique which is why pes is ahead in tht department atm..

anyway 9 hours till I get to taste fifa 09 muah hahahahaha night
Pls upload some footage onto EASW, not just goals

Thx, enjoy urself out there

[Bitter Rivals]

FIFA 06 RTWC was based off of PS2's fifa game engine so certain things were always going to be there and look good with upgrades graphics... for example player faces look alot better in that game and body physique look much better I guess the modelling was easier with last gen technique which is why pes is ahead in tht department atm..

anyway 9 hours till I get to taste fifa 09 muah hahahahaha night

try and find out about the supercancel please mate

[gameklip]

try and get a few snaps of the players close-ups! especially rooney and pato!

i bet they still get deco wrong lol

[Blaccat]

try and get a few snaps of the players close-ups! especially rooney and pato!

i bet they still get deco wrong lol
good thing is, he can take screenshots in-game and post them on EASW

[*** Nomis1 ***]

The Wii version is looking OK!. http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38558.html

[*** Nomis1 ***]

Found this one too: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38557.html

[kamy100]

Also this one:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38552.html

[*** Nomis1 ***]

Good trailer that, i like it.:DD

[TikTikTikTikTik]

Thats a great trailer, take not Konami.

Also does that mean we can now dummy the ball? (near the end before kaka does a nice backheel)

[janneblaffa]

Anyone else noticed that Real madrid and Milan sponsor Bwin is not on there shirt!!! Hope its there in the final game.

Maybe because its a betting company?!

[kamy100]

Trailer looks good and the HD gameplay footage also looks superb. My only concern is the goalies in the gameplay trailer they seem to be the same as Euro 2008 which is negative to me.

[*** Nomis1 ***]

I really like the look of some of the twists and turns. Especially the Arsenal player Nasri spinning in between about 3 players.

[reddevils]

i like the look of the nets in the next gen gameplay video :) it is obviously a newer build then the ones we seen before because of the updated kits and stuff

the trailer is awesome but not really gameplay is it, the moves and everything seem to be CGI

and yes the goalkeeper looks crap again......but it could be that the user took the keeper out in some of those situations (which totally messes up the GK AI lol)

[red_devils2k4]

http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/900/900378p1.html

there is going to be live season in fifa 09!!!

[Placebo]

Boo, rather see manager mode fixed.

[jonneymendoza]

I really like the look of some of the twists and turns. Especially the Arsenal player Nasri spinning in between about 3 players.
a shame he dont look nothing like nasri :( player likeness still looks bad in fifa:SS

[Ferraritim]

http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/900/900378p1.html

there is going to be live season in fifa 09!!!

Great!

That trailer rocks too. Too bad the goalkeepers seem to be the same indeed.

[Trance_Allstar]

Great!

That trailer rocks too. Too bad the goalkeepers seem to be the same indeed.


They share some animations, but I feel that the reflex speed have improved alot. So far I've not seen anything unrealistic in that aspect.

They seem a bit dodgy when Ribery feinted infront of one though and he sort of stopped for a moment allowing a goal.

[kamy100]

They need to sort out the keepers, because in Euro 2008 they were a "game killer" for me, especially online as people were scoring an enormous amount of goals from rebounds. Everything else looks superb, really hope that they get keepers sorted.

[Ferraritim]

They share some animations, but I feel that the reflex speed have improved alot. So far I've not seen anything unrealistic in that aspect.

They seem a bit dodgy when Ribery feinted infront of one though and he sort of stopped for a moment allowing a goal.

The goalies were too good in Euro 2008. They saved everything aimed at the top corner.

[Rob92]

I am impressed by what I have seen :)) The keepers don't look great, but I still have some hope about them as YoungGun said that they were the best in any game he had played when he played it.

[Ferraritim]

I love the Chelsea defender waving for offside while it is just onside and play continues.

[cb7]

I think the ugly EA Logo that was on the shirts is gone for good, you can notice that in the first celebration cut scene.

[Andersson]

http://www.gamersyde.com/news_6976_en.html

[Milanista]

Nice trailer but whats with Milan and Real not having sponsors??? The kits look crap like last year, but the gameplay - if that was in game- looks good. Hopefully we won't be limited to scoring in certain ways anymore due to the goalies.

[charlievolano]

Anyone else noticed that Real madrid and Milan sponsor Bwin is not on there shirt!!! Hope its there in the final game.

Maybe because its a betting company?!

You bet ya

Do they have a broadcast camera?? i don't like playing with the normal ones.

[Ferraritim]

Looking good, looking good!

[charlievolano]

http://www.gamersyde.com/news_6976_en.html

Damn manual passing makes the game so real!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BillyBoy]

Looking very good.

[Placebo]

Damn manual passing makes the game so real!!!!!!!!!!!!

Manual passing is the way forward. All Fifa09 vids I create for FSB when we get the retail build will feature 100% manual passing/long balls/crossing!

[Milanista]

You bet ya

Do they have a broadcast camera?? i don't like playing with the normal ones.

They had Bwin last year, I don't see why it should be a problem.

[Bitter Rivals]

Found this one too: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38557.html

looks fantastic

is that supercancel i can see at 10 seconds :-D

[Radiation]

Also this one:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38552.html

I hate these trailers - half the stuff we wont be able to do in the game like last years ronaldiniho jogging while doing kick ups crap.

- The other video looks alright but hardly blows me away - i need to play it myself i think

[BillyBoy]

So where is the revolutionary feature? If its this Live Season thing I will be annoyed. I was expecting EA Sports League.

[Sollito]

http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/900/900378p1.html

there is going to be live season in fifa 09!!!

:DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE:

[DagsJT]

Placebo, can you mirror the trailers please? I can't access the GameTrailers videos in work :((

[Placebo]

Oh sure

Uploading now at 1.2mb/s, did I mention I love Sweden? ;)

[DagsJT]

Oh sure

Cheers mate, you're a star :TU:

[jonneymendoza]

So where is the revolutionary feature? If its this Live Season thing I will be annoyed. I was expecting EA Sports League.
yea hope its that

[Placebo]

Trailer:
http://evoweb.thewarppipe.net/fifa09_excl_leipzig_h264.wmv
http://filecoast.com/?file=dmXmf755_fifa09_excl_leipzig_h264.wmv

Gameplay Footage:
http://evoweb.thewarppipe.net/fifa09_gp_gc2k8_seriousscore.h264.wmv
http://filecoast.com/?file=cggq6TVx_fifa09_gp_gc2k8_seriousscore.h

[Placebo]

http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/2008/08/fifa09-date-with-demo-confirmation-of.html

"Fifa09 Date with a demo & Confirmation of the new feature. "

[DagsJT]

Cheers Placebo :DANCE:

No news on this exclusive PS3 mode then?

[Placebo]

Exclusive PS3 Feature: FIWC being built into the game. So can track progress, play games etc through the game rather than be so website reliant.

[beachryan]

I think the live season feature is great, but should be optional. I assume that it won't happen in Manager Mode, or else we could no longer 'power up' our young players.
As for exhibition/other modes - I think it should just give you the option at the kit select screen: Original Teams or Live Season Teams

It would stop the Barca/Man Utd people online if those teams sucked :)

[Milanista]

Exclusive PS3 Feature: FIWC being built into the game. So can track progress, play games etc through the game rather than be so website reliant.

Is this official?

[DagsJT]

Thought the trailer looked good but some animations in the gameplay don't look right.

Drogba is placing the ball into the corner but he BARELY brings his foot back yet the ball flies with a lot more power than his foot action implies.

[Chris Davies]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38552.html
Good trailer that, i like it.:DD
Thats a great trailer

It's a nice trailer, but out of interest, am I the only person who thinks it's mighty similar to the FIFA 2002 intro?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcZdzfOXtqU

;)

[reddevils]

told you guys LOL (about the PS exclusive game mode)

it wont add much to a game

[AsterNzeyii]

Yeah now you say it ... but yeah so what its a goddamn trailer man ! :p

[winston]

The ball physics looks awful on numerous occassions during that trailer. I hope the in-game physics isn't so obviously scripted.

[world`soccer]

guys i hope this game comes out early i really love it after seeing the last trailer

[Radiation]

I love the idea of dynamic real-world data and analytics - i HAVE to have my games running up to date whatever they are - i hate playing a game that 2 weeks after release is out of date.

That's the main reason i can't touch a manager game because i just can't handle seeing the ai man utd sell off rooney, ronaldo and ferdinand to chelsea and replace them with some random players from who knows where.


It's a bit strange that's a ps3 exclusive - why can't they have it for the 360?

[JayD]

You're a miserable so and so aren't you Winston. ;) There is an ingame video why not look for yourself.

[Chris Davies]

It's a bit strange that's a ps3 exclusive - why can't they have it for the 360?
It's not PS3 exclusive, FIFA Interactive World Cup qualifiers (for the pro-gamers) are the PS3 exclusive.

[Coopz]

quality trailer

[DaWolf]

PC Demo will be out September 12th

http://www.gc.electronic-arts.de/publish/page206400203488272.php3?gcid=15

[winston]

You're a miserable so and so aren't you Winston. ;) There is an ingame video why not look for yourself.

I had to double-take after that first save that Cech makes from Rooney when the ball spins up and then drops, it just looked so bad. I'm just surprised it looks so poor in a trailer, when they should be tarting it up to look perfect.

I'm sure it's going to be a great game but there's still a wiff of the bad old FIFA in the ball physics.

[Placebo]

Yeah the trailer does have interesting animations, my guess would be trailer = hand animation, gameplay = mocap.

[WILDSTER180774]

can someone please explain the ps3 exclusive in plain english. Am i wrong in saying its a fifa world cup tournament?

[DaWu]

want to share some light on the bwin logo missing

here in germany our idiots in the parlament are forbidding private bet companies. thats why none bundelisga team has a bwin kit logo. in fifa08 there were no bwin logos on the kits in the german version too. (you had to switch your console to english to get them and to get the better english commentary). hence the GC is in germany its clear why there are no bwin logos

cheers

[Trance_Allstar]

Yeah the trailer does have interesting animations, my guess would be trailer = hand animation, gameplay = mocap.


Yeah, the trailer animations and ball physics look separate from the actual game. I also reacted about the ballbehavior after the Rooney shot and goalie save, but it was obvious from that that it wasn't in-game.

[Bingham67]

Omg trailer awesome :DD

But anyway on to gameplay video seems there more control over placement of shots and i thought keepers looked ok up until last part.

Overall looks great cant wait for more videos :DD

[JayM]

We had no Carling logo in the English version. It's a bit annoying.

[Milanista]

want to share some light on the bwin logo missing

here in germany our idiots in the parlament are forbidding private bet companies. thats why none bundelisga team has a bwin kit logo. in fifa08 there were no bwin logos on the kits in the german version too. (you had to switch your console to english to get them and to get the better english commentary). hence the GC is in germany its clear why there are no bwin logos

cheers

Phew!!! Thanks a lot for that :))

[DaWu]

I recognized the missing carling logo too. in ther german version it was in. so it seems either version you choose - you always get some shit

[DagsJT]

want to share some light on the bwin logo missing

here in germany our idiots in the parlament are forbidding private bet companies. thats why none bundelisga team has a bwin kit logo. in fifa08 there were no bwin logos on the kits in the german version too. (you had to switch your console to english to get them and to get the better english commentary). hence the GC is in germany its clear why there are no bwin logos

cheers

Interesting, cheers.

[Placebo]

Aha thanks :)

[reddevils]

Omg trailer awesome :DD

But anyway on to gameplay video seems there more control over placement of shots and i thought keepers looked ok up until last part.

Overall looks great cant wait for more videos :DD

Yeah i think in that incident the person controller that team took out their keeper (Y on the 360, triangle on the PS3) which totally messes up the Keeper

so i dont think you can blame it on EA or something :|

[Bitter Rivals]

i am still awaiting the create a player offline and take him online in BAP? like nhl and nba 09

can we expect anymore announcements or is that it for the online modes?

i am sure they said 2 gameplay modes and one exclusive feature, that would mean one more mode to announce?

[DagsJT]

Live Season will be a paid-for service, but a free trial restricted to one of the leagues will be offered and run from activation through to the end of the season. Otherwise, subscription costs are unknown.

:TD:

[Chris Davies]

You're joking!

:| No further comment...

[Placebo]

I won't be paying for it :)

[jonneymendoza]

PC Demo will be out September 12th

http://www.gc.electronic-arts.de/publish/page206400203488272.php3?gcid=15
yay cant wait