FIFA 09 PS3/360 Discussion Thread

[Placebo]

360 > PS3 - Fact.

;)

[Damo7]

I have read alot about this Xbox 360 lark. Is it true FIFA 09 is better on the xbox? I have a ps3 HD cable attached to my 42inch plasma and i must admit its not as sharp as Id like it to be. On other games tho its fine. Why is this?

[Nick Cave]

Same here, for all I care about boots they can all wear black ones, gameplay and manager mode are the most important things to me.
:APPLAUD:

[danhammer]

i love different boots, of course the gameplay is great but little bits that add realism make it abit special for me

got a modded 360 and playing a pes 2009 patch.....real kits, boots, balls etc...takes me back to the ps2 patching days

[SPMC]

not me, but someone else might say:
"you don't care about the gameplay at all, you're playing PES2009!"
:D

[brunnoce]

360 > PS3 - Fact.

;)

i can co-sign that...
i started playing fifa09 on the ps3...after i looked at it on the 360, i was impressed how much better it plays overal(gfx, smoothnes)
thats why im back to the 360 now...seems every multiplataform game has an edge for the 360.
i kept my ps3 too, cause its excluvise games are amazing too, specially mlb the show.

[StayingPower]

Is there any way to change the World XI squad?

[Phat J 22]

even better, is there any way to put world xi players into normal squads?

[StayingPower]

Why would you need to do that? World XI is made up of current players.

Unless you're talking about Classic XI, in which case I completely agree. Cantona back at United would be great.

[Phat J 22]

yes, thank you. the classic xi.

[danhammer]

i can co-sign that...
i started playing fifa09 on the ps3...after i looked at it on the 360, i was impressed how much better it plays overal(gfx, smoothnes)
thats why im back to the 360 now...seems every multiplataform game has an edge for the 360.
i kept my ps3 too, cause its excluvise games are amazing too, specially mlb the show.

to be fair mate i don't really get the chance to play much so when i do, i play footie games and at the moment the 360 has the edge....once ps3 sorts itself out then i might buy again but it would only be gathering dust as i'm not fussed about blu-ray films for the time being

[millmax7]

it is possible to get the english commentators to call sergio ramos n higuain name?

[shieldslfc]

Anyone one had the game (360) freezing just as you kickoff. Had mates round last night and attempted 4 games of 2 player (tried different teams and stadiums) and everyone did the same, had to reset console as would not respond to anything.

Checked the disk and it was clean, never done it before so a bit weird ?????

[Tim7]

I think that same thing was happening to me when my disc got scratched. I changed it for a new disc and it worked fine.

[Ogami]

Anyone one had the game (360) freezing just as you kickoff. Had mates round last night and attempted 4 games of 2 player (tried different teams and stadiums) and everyone did the same, had to reset console as would not respond to anything.

Checked the disk and it was clean, never done it before so a bit weird ?????

I had this problem before, it has nothing to do with the disc. It's because of an old Adidas live update.

The only way to solve this is to delete everything related to FIFA 09 from the 360's hard drive. You'll be able to activate Adidas live again after that.

[StuartCulli]

Anyone wanna play manual before I go out?

[Erik]

A story from online play...

I sign in to play BAP Online Team play or whatever it's called. I see that the teams are AFC Bournemouth against Real Madrid. I think, "cool, I will go for the lower league team and see how it pans out." It's even players in the buildup at 3 for Bournemouth and 4 for Real. All of the sudden, the game starts and it's just me as Bournemouth and 6 others as Real Madrid... Basically the captain who picked Bournemouth was trying to set up a demolition against one player and switched sides before going "Ready."

The moral of the story is this - and I am not a seriously good player, but decent. I played Real Madrid to a 1-1 draw against 6 others. You could hear them getting pissed over the mic and it had to be my most satisfying moment on FIFA since I got this game.

There is alot of stupid shite happening online... Also, I have most of my controls on Manual, but when I go online and back out again it seems to reset them... Does this happen to anyone else?

[DagsJT]

Well played Erik :D

[Tim7]

Class :DD.

[PESV]

Last year I got myself a 360 with Fifa 08 for the holidays. I really enjoyed it. So this year I did the same, only this time I went for a PS3 because of Little Big Planet. Initially I was a bit disappointed by Fifa09. It was sluggish and there was noticeable slowdown. But I remembered having the same problem with Fifa08. Just like then, I changed the camera to dynamic. Fortunately I can zoom it out just a tiny bit with 09. With the camera up close the slowdown is allot less, and its a real thrill to play. Now I am really impressed with the game. Ideally though, I rather play a bit more zoomed out, but immediately the gameplay will suffer because of it.

Im gutted to hear the 360 has less issues in this department. I guess that on the box slowdowns must be non-existent on dynamic. Wile playing on the PS3 I still have a tiny bit of slowdown when shots are released. Cant believe the team did not give the framerate the highest priority. Playing a smooth game is so important, it makes or breaks a game. In tele cam on the ps3 there is no way you can really get into the flow of the game. Its like riding a Ferrari with a busted engine. I just wish the player had the ability to tone down the graphics to make the game run smoother. Because in reality, I think everyone who is talking about slow response times, are actually talking about lag. Unbelievable really, what a bold mistake by Rutter and co, a team that seems to be so on it. I am still going to enjoy this game in dynamic, but at the same time god smacked by so much stupidity. Instead of tuning down the graphs they chose to allow more then occasional slowdowns. I say fuck that, or at least let the player choose what he thinks has the highest priority. For the same amount of money, PS3 users deserve the same game experience.

[YoungGun_UK]

PS3 is fine for me mate, Maybe your a ex PC gamer?

[SPMC]

strange, FIFA09 is fine for me too.

[Nick Cave]

Is anyone else having a lot of floating players, I seem to be getting more since the update, players just sliding along without any movement like they were on ice...?

[PESV]

Not a ex-pc gamer here. I guess we have a different idea of 'fine'. Go ahead and compare the amount of slowdown around the penalty area with tele cam zoomed out vs dynamic cam zoomed in. In a well polished console game there should not be a difference, whatsoever. Yet for me there is a very noticeable difference which determines if the game is a joy to play, or an annoyance. Let me know what you find, I am very curious. Also, I am not the only on who feels this, just go one page back and you see more people stating the PS3 version is inferior to the 360.
Not saying that the 360 is perfect, I would not know. But if it has the same issues in the framerate department as 08, then we are talking the same story here but in a slightly minor degree.

I am a 100% sure that the game's potential is undermined by the unstable and all around low framerate. Not Fifa 09, but Fifa 08 in arena mode..that is how the game should react during a match. Dynamic cam zoomed in comes close.

[mjsmith2k]

I must admit, since the update I get the missing/invisible players at kick-off bug in about 1 out of every 20 games online. Only happens for about 20 seconds but still a little annoying seeing a ball float around the pitch towards your goal area.

Have to say though, been playing this game a lot more lately and I absolutely adore it, especially playing against my mates online. Reminds me of when I used to stay up all night playing PES5 online.

[PESV]

I switched from 1080i to 720p and now the game plays a lot better for me?

[brunnoce]

yeh, 720p is a better, smoother resolution than 1080i, for moving images.

also, the ps3 version is fine........... until u get to play the 360 version.

[Erik]

Is anyone else having a lot of floating players, I seem to be getting more since the update, players just sliding along without any movement like they were on ice...?

Yes actually - and I never saw it before the update.

[Erik]

Hey everyone,

I will be online tonight probably around 3:30 or 4 pm Eastern US time - so I guess 8:30 or 9 pm England/Euro time.

I would love to play some of you - my psn ID is:

alka246

[YoungGun_UK]

yeh, 720p is a better, smoother resolution than 1080i, for moving images.

also, the ps3 version is fine........... until u get to play the 360 version.

Played it on 360 as well. there both identical apart from the controllers.

[danhammer]

sorry mate i know it's all about opinions but the 360 versions is much better than the ps3 version...in my opinion of course :-)

[hitmanuk]

funny that cause i prefer the ps3 version..had an xbox 360 for 2 yrs but sold it for a more reliable machine. I thought the xbox version had far more slow down compared to the ps3 even running off the xbox hard drive..maybe it was my machine..anyway i much prefer the ps3 version

[Phat J 22]

i play it on the 360 and i havent noticed a problem at all. a few glitches, like every time i play a BAP game i have to change the camera even if i set it in the main menu. other than that though its fine.

[brunnoce]

Played it on 360 as well. there both identical apart from the controllers.

well i respect your opinion, but my experience and some friends also shown me theres quite some diference gfx wise.

it can also be the case of our and your Tv set ups...maybe u have a tv that works better with the ps3...

my tv will aways work better with the 360, since with the ps3 the max resolution i get is 720p(1280x720) , and with the 360 i can get my tv's full resolution which is 1360x768, both via HDMI, and this is simply becasue the ps3 doesnt have this setup..maybe they will in future firmware upadtes.

[hitmanuk]

hows that my ps3 runs 1080i ..or am i missing something

[Nick Cave]

Does 09 run at 1080p on the PS3...?

[Erik]

Does 09 run at 1080p on the PS3...?

I'm pretty sure mine is set up that way and it looks fine. Although it may be 1080i.......................

[Damo7]

I wonder if anyone can help. I have asked this question before on here but no one has ever answered me. I am really having problems playing 1 v 1 online. BAP and 2 v 2 I have no problems. When I invite or get invited for a 1 v 1 game, I see my opponent enter the game room but I never seem to be able to change my team when I am the away opponent. I cant see them move there's and can never select ready to start game. Eventually the opponent leaves or the system times me out. Can anyone advise as im pulling my hair out. Many thanks.

[Tim7]

Check your NAT?

[Erik]

This is a question for the FIFA researchers - Placebo and whoever else.

Who is responsible for updating the US national team? Is there someone who does the US team, or is it based on the clubs they play for and in the leagues they are in? I was playing some BAP, USA against Mexico and the ratings for the US are horrible even though we've dominated Mexico and the Concacaf region for 10 years now. I know our players aren't the most gifted on the planet, and I am not saying they should be in the mid 80's or 90's at all, but most are in the high 60's or low 70's. But when you play on BAP or even just a straight game against Mexico on FIFA, they run all over the US and score at will. Since 2000, the USA is unbeaten in 10 games against Mexico (17 goals for, 3 against) at home and have only lost to them when going to Mexico City 2 times (we beat them at the '02 world cup as well 2-0.)

Sorry about the rant and if it doesn't pertain to this thread. However, online is getting better. : )

[YoungGun_UK]

Does 09 run at 1080p on the PS3...?

Yeh it is mate.

[brunnoce]

This is a question for the FIFA researchers - Placebo and whoever else.

Who is responsible for updating the US national team? Is there someone who does the US team, or is it based on the clubs they play for and in the leagues they are in? I was playing some BAP, USA against Mexico and the ratings for the US are horrible even though we've dominated Mexico and the Concacaf region for 10 years now. I know our players aren't the most gifted on the planet, and I am not saying they should be in the mid 80's or 90's at all, but most are in the high 60's or low 70's. But when you play on BAP or even just a straight game against Mexico on FIFA, they run all over the US and score at will. Since 2000, the USA is unbeaten in 10 games against Mexico (17 goals for, 3 against) at home and have only lost to them when going to Mexico City 2 times (we beat them at the '02 world cup as well 2-0.)

Sorry about the rant and if it doesn't pertain to this thread. However, online is getting better. : )

NT teams are secondary, meaning players atributes are made by club, the researcher in charge of the nt can only call up players, he cant edit atributes as far as i know.
so the problem here is that the MLS is rated lower than the mexican league, therefore a medium player on the mexican league will be higher than a medium player of the MLS and so on.

[Placebo]

Exactly as he said, if a player is shite for his club team he'll be the same amount of shite for his national team. Only way around that would be to have 2 copies of a player which would royally screw the game up (as with PES and their shitty attempts at getting around licensing).

[Facebook]

This may seem like a stupid question to ask but how do you play 2v2 online?

[Phat J 22]

I wonder if anyone can help. I have asked this question before on here but no one has ever answered me. I am really having problems playing 1 v 1 online. BAP and 2 v 2 I have no problems. When I invite or get invited for a 1 v 1 game, I see my opponent enter the game room but I never seem to be able to change my team when I am the away opponent. I cant see them move there's and can never select ready to start game. Eventually the opponent leaves or the system times me out. Can anyone advise as im pulling my hair out. Many thanks.

i have the same problem, just keep restarting until you find someone you can play with. i dont know how to fix it.

[Tim7]

This may seem like a stupid question to ask but how do you play 2v2 online?

2 of you on the same console is a normal match and then press Y to sign in the second player. 2 of you on different consoles you go into BAP and do 2v2 and everyone picks "any".

[tobi]

How do you pass with the outside of the foot and how do you do opposite wing attack?

[Tim7]

Outside of the foot passes are automatic and on assisted only, (maybe semi too, not sure).

For opposite wing attack, press up on the d pad, then press right on the d pad.

[tobi]

Thanks.

[Placebo]

I'm currently on semi for short passing and shooting and see outside of the foot with both of those, I believe it depends more on the position of the player as well as how strong their weak foot is at the time they try the pass/shot.

[Tim7]

Nah it's only semi/assisted then, as I'm on manual and have NEVER done an outside of the foot pass.

[Nick Cave]

I've scored quite a few outside of boot shots on Semi, it's down to player stats and how you set up your shot...

[Oli]

Does anyone think manual through balls are awful. It takes too long to power them up, and by the time you do, you get closed down. I may have to switch back to assisted through balls.

[Placebo]

I think it's just toned down to make it more difficult to pull off because most of the time if you get it right it's a 1 on 1 chance, I have no problem with manual throughballs now that it's ingrained that you need to press for longer......

[Tim7]

I don't use through balls, passing on fully manual I can do through balls myself :)).

[andish2001]

Yep, thats what I do as well Tim - one of the great benefits from manual passing :)

[Tim7]

We rock :ROCK:.

[drekkard]

i have the same problem, just keep restarting until you find someone you can play with. i dont know how to fix it.

Either you or your opponent doesn't have all the ports opened in you rrouter. You should have ports opened for the ps3 AND for the game, as you'll find in the manual, Fifa uses some ports of their own (check the instructions). If you have the ps3 and the fifa ports opened, then the problem is of your opponent.

I had this exact problem and was going mad at the beggining until I found out this and solved it.

[Erik]

NT teams are secondary, meaning players atributes are made by club, the researcher in charge of the nt can only call up players, he cant edit atributes as far as i know.
so the problem here is that the MLS is rated lower than the mexican league, therefore a medium player on the mexican league will be higher than a medium player of the MLS and so on.

That makes sense to me... although it sucks. : )

Thanks to you and Placebo for the info.

[stuartyd]

Anyone one had the game (360) freezing just as you kickoff. Had mates round last night and attempted 4 games of 2 player (tried different teams and stadiums) and everyone did the same, had to reset console as would not respond to anything.

Checked the disk and it was clean, never done it before so a bit weird ?????

This happens when I play at my mates house sometimes. As soon as the controller 2 presses a button the game freezes. We get round this by using controller 1 & controller 3. Not ideal, but it works. Don't know why it happens though

[Phat J 22]

Either you or your opponent doesn't have all the ports opened in you rrouter. You should have ports opened for the ps3 AND for the game, as you'll find in the manual, Fifa uses some ports of their own (check the instructions). If you have the ps3 and the fifa ports opened, then the problem is of your opponent.

I had this exact problem and was going mad at the beggining until I found out this and solved it.
how do you these open ports?

[drekkard]

how do you these open ports?

Depending on your router and your ISP, you'll have to make different things. For once, normally the router address is 192.168.1.1 but you'll need your account and password for the router. Google for that information if you don't own it.

The port you have to open is in your instructions manual. If you've got a PS3, make sure to have the ps3 needed ports opened. Google for it also, it's easy to find.

Cheers!

[Phat J 22]

nah 360, thanks for the help. i still dont know what im doing though.

[Tim7]

www.portforward.com

This will help you mate :)).

[BwA Spectre]

Anyone in a BaP club? Im looking to join one.

[BwA Spectre]

dont you guys fucking hate playing against little cunts who choose man utd all the time? I created a game session and soon there joins a player. I choose Reading and he fucking chose man utd! What kinda retardism is that?
Is he blind or just stupid, or maybe both. Cant he see that reading has two and a half star and plays in the coca cola championship and man utd are champions of England and Europe. I fucking hate playing against those little cuntheads who cant play for fun. Just for the win.

Mate, I know! It's annoying and boring to face Man U, chelsea, barca every game. I feel like the movie "Groundhogs Day":R1

[Tim7]

Anyone in a BaP club? Im looking to join one.
We have an Evo Web Club, have a look in the Online Gaming section, our thread is in there. There's a few highlights vids up too. If it's something your interested in, then post in there mate and we'll get something arranged :)).

[Phat J 22]

for ps3 right?

[mjsmith2k]

Have a 2v2 League (PS3)running on AVForums if people want to sign up from Evo Web. Have about 6 strong teams who play regularly and looking for a full league if possible.

If you are interested sign up here:

http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=51692

or here,

http://www.avforums.com/forums/ps3-clans-tournaments/886604-avf-fifa-09-2v2-league-ps3.html

[k_19]

I've scored quite a few outside of boot shots on Semi, it's down to player stats and how you set up your shot...

I also use semi for shooting and I hit outside of the boot shots all the time. I find that it's easier to hit these when you are on an angle and use L2 for close control. Here is a neat one I hit with Huntelaar earlier today: http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/3080534

On random note, I've been on a header binge recently. Just had a 6-0 thrashing of Portsmouth on near full manual (except shots and crossing) and 4 of those goals were from headers, two of them diving headers. Followed that up with 2-1 over Ajax, both goals on headers. I don't really understand when people say that headers are too difficult to execute in this game... as soon as you learn how to cross effectively (right amount of power, when to swerve the ball and when to not, etc) and how to jostle for position, it's very easy to do, and now you have more control over your headers than ever which is a good thing... better than 08 where you'd balloon most of them over the bar or in WE/PES where every header is unrealistic bullet.

[Tim7]

I was talking about passing, not shooting ;)).

[andish2001]

the headers are brilliant, but are a little too easy. I can score headed goals at will (quite literally) online, or on legendary, or against good mates at home pretty much whenever i want. for this reason i try to play my football through the middle and slip little through balls through etc, because its just WAY to easy to score from crosses if you have crossing on semi.

[jonneymendoza]

the headers are brilliant, but are a little too easy. I can score headed goals at will (quite literally) online, or on legendary, or against good mates at home pretty much whenever i want. for this reason i try to play my football through the middle and slip little through balls through etc, because its just WAY to easy to score from crosses if you have crossing on semi.
you must be playing a different game or just mastered the heading of this game because for me i miss most of my headers or my crosses turn to shit:P

[Nick Cave]

the headers are brilliant, but are a little too easy. I can score headed goals at will (quite literally) online, or on legendary, or against good mates at home pretty much whenever i want. for this reason i try to play my football through the middle and slip little through balls through etc, because its just WAY to easy to score from crosses if you have crossing on semi.

We need a master class then, crossed headers at goal are one of the hardest things for most people in here I would say...:BLINK:

[drekkard]

The problem with headers consists on crossin right. If you have crossing in Auto, obviously things must be easier. Try to put crossing on manual and you'll find it's way more difficult. That doesn't mean it's wrong. I like it as it is.

Though, it's also important what kind of player do you have in front. I like to play a "barcelona" style, so my forwards are skilled but hardly know how to head the ball, so I play a dribbling game in the wings.

Besides, there's something annoying me a lot. When you do cross and can't win the header, your opponent always have a clean counter, the same happens with corners. And I hate when you opponent can do a clean pass from central defender to striker and the pass is clinically accurate everytime. Accuracy in passing is something I would want ot have reworked in the next fifa.

[Nick Cave]

Besides, there's something annoying me a lot. When you do cross and can't win the header, your opponent always have a clean counter, the same happens with corners. And I hate when you opponent can do a clean pass from central defender to striker and the pass is clinically accurate everytime. Accuracy in passing is something I would want ot have reworked in the next fifa.
That's very true, along with AI clearances just about always finding their player. There is far too little free ball in 09 as with every other title, the ball just never seems to run free...

[Placebo]

I have crossing on manual and as my players are improving (default Wednesday players improved by XP) I find that the quality of my goals is getting better, my wingers have good crossing/curve now so they whip in some fantastic curving, dipping crosses, scored a sweet 1 yard, far post diving header with Jeffers off one recently that just looked incredibly, easily the closest range goal that's given me the "wow" feeling.

[Tim7]

Wow, a 1 yard belter :ROLL:.






:WOOT:

You wanna watch some of our Clubs videos, we'll show you some proper goals ;)).

[Nick Cave]

I've hit the bar from two yards and that made me want to kick the console through the TV, that's how PES used to get me. If we could get our hands on the code and a team under us we could make FIFA a god of a game, it really annoys me the way things progress at a snails pace and in Konami's case com-bust...

[Placebo]

You wanna watch some of our Clubs videos, we'll show you some proper goals ;)).

No thank you.

[Tim7]

Booo, you should, we're very good.

[Placebo]

No thank you.

[jeblo05]

finally I've seen the light...

I'm playing on full manual now. It's a completely different game, it's much harder though. Unfortunately I couldn't find any players online with the manual control filter. Playing against semi/auto gamers is NO fun.

FIFA/semi is a lot of fun (plays like a much improved PES), FIFA/auto is an arcade fest, should be a no-go for any football lover.

[Tim7]

No thank you.
Why not?

[Placebo]

I'm busy with the January update :)

[Tim7]

:ROLL:

So busy you keep posting on Evo Web ;)).

[Erik]

you must be playing a different game or just mastered the heading of this game because for me i miss most of my headers or my crosses turn to shit:P

Agreed - the crosses NEVER get to the target. I've scored a few since I've had the game. It's mostly up the middle for me.

[YoungGun_UK]

Speaking of those Vids, Whats the secret to timing volleys? I saw Bitter hit a sweet one in that vid against the post and CW and Tim in the "Chances" Vid have a few aswell. My player always seems to love heading it from 30 yards out :SS

[Joe]

Speaking of those Vids, Whats the secret to timing volleys? I saw Bitter hit a sweet one in that vid against the post and CW and Tim in the "Chances" Vid have a few aswell. My player always seems to love heading it from 30 yards out :SS

This game is all about timing, you really do need to wait for it to get below your waist to unleash a beaut

[Tim7]

Yeah I think joe is right, it's all to timing. Just wait as long as you can and let the ball drop as much as you can before pressing the shoot button.

[CW]

Plus you have to be totally awesome :D

[Shazam!]

Mate, I know! It's annoying and boring to face Man U, chelsea, barca every game.Yeah, the best games I've had have been with teams like West Ham, Newcastle or Spurs. Had a nice PNE v Wolves match too, but getting anyone to pick a team other than Man United, Chelsea, Inter or Barcelona is rare.

I always try to pick a team relevant to my opponant.

[Metallica]

I just played a cheating bastard that chose Bayern only to find out he had the likes of C.Ronaldo, Kaka, Messi etc playing for him

No worries anyway I battered him with Spurs 4-1!

Now he decides to message me offensively! what a sucker

darxey is the knobs PSN

[brunnoce]

just scored a overhead kick with tim cahill !
:)
looked amazing, just like the one against chelsea :D
YouTube - Cahill scores against Chelsea (http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=7L-vMRFKoHQ)


sadly i was not connected and coulndt save :(

anyone up for manual passing / semi-manual shooting online macthes?

[Jumbo_]

Are you on 360 now Brunnoce? I'll add you gamertag and give you a game if you like!

[brunnoce]

yeh jumbo, ill be online in about 2 hours ;)
i just swicthed to manual pass and semi shooting so, take it easy with me lol


btw, yakubu is rated 81 in my roster , i edited him to be more like himself(lowered his speed/acceleration by 8 and shoot power by 6, increased 2 points his balance), as he was too overrated on EA default DB, thats not cheating right?

[brunnoce]

good games jumbo, i was quite lucky today...specially that last macth i scored in the imjury time with fellaini

anywayz its amazing how manual passing and semi shooting change this game, for good!

[2176297]

evenin boys, im a newbie to FIFA, switched like many cos PES has just gone to shit. Fifa is much better at the moment, but still has some massive flaws. But anyway, what are the points im accumulating at the end of matches, and what can i do with them? I've got quite a few now linked to my account, i just dont know what its for? Is there somewhere you can unlock more, i dunno, stuff?
Would love the everton third kit in game. :(

[brunnoce]

evenin boys, im a newbie to FIFA, switched like many cos PES has just gone to shit. Fifa is much better at the moment, but still has some massive flaws. But anyway, what are the points im accumulating at the end of matches, and what can i do with them? I've got quite a few now linked to my account, i just dont know what its for? Is there somewhere you can unlock more, i dunno, stuff?
Would love the everton third kit in game. :(


same here m8, unfortnaatly theres no way for that... i evan asked in EA forums and seems we released the 3rd kit to late, thats why it didnt make into the game, wich sucks cause its been really confunsing to play against teams like blackburn(who doesnt have a 3rd kit neither in the game)

anyway, about the points, those are just for u to buy stuff to costumize your avatar at Easportsworld. u can buy more clothes and stuff like that there, thats all... theres no fifa shop this year.

ps: please read my pm, thanx ;)

[Ogami]

It's been 3 months already and I haven't grown tired of this game yet. It just gets better and better. I'm not even pissed that most people online use assisted settings, or that I keep hitting the woodwork (using semi shooting).

It's just awesome.

[Metallica]

Does anyone know how to update the avatar from EA Sports World in the game ?

I have updated it on the website but its changed nothing in game

Thanks

[tobi]

I don't think you can edit in game.

[Metallica]

Nah I didnt mean that, I have changed it online but it hasnt changed in the game. Im just wondering if there is away for it to update the avatar in the game

[Shooto]

you have probably updated your EA sportsworld one.

There is one for FIFA 09 too. Its a bit weird how they do it.

[pepper63]

I Was playing on semi-manual,then tried manual everything.Really enjoyed this game but as far as i and manual shooting go,better giving stevie wonder a shotgun and asking him to shoot the moon!!:SHOCK:

[Nick Cave]

I Was playing on semi-manual,then tried manual everything.Really enjoyed this game but as far as i and manual shooting go,better giving stevie wonder a shotgun and asking him to shoot the moon!!:SHOCK:
It's hard enough on Semi when you get away from the Prem or top teams, manual is crazy... :)

[brunnoce]

yeah, i just gave manual shooting a test...jeez... im back to semi...

btw, manual passing is just brilliant, i can feel the diference between players passing atributes a lot more now... when i get a team like Brazil i can pass the ball around at will, but with lower teams or evan lower player like P.Neville or Hibbert i have to really work hard to make the pass go where i want.

[andish2001]

OK after all the replies to my comments on the heading I thought I'd repost how i go about crossing and heading and scoring.

This is with crossing on semi.

Once you get within 'crossing zone' (ie the area in line with the edge of the 18 yard box to the touchline but on the wing), when you press cross, let go of all direction, and charge to 3/4 power. Depending on the positioning stats of your strikers and midfielders (although the lower stats in lower leagues are countered by the defenders having equally bad positioning stats), the ball should fly over all the idiots at the near post and find someone arriving late at the far. Obviously this means that near post headed goals are quite rare, but hey, if you want to score headed goals, this is definitely the way to do it. The key is to 1) give it enough power and 2) let go of all direction.

For early crosses prior to reaching the 'crossing zone', its a little different, as the game requires you to give a direction, although the power thing is the same. 3/4 to full power will usually result in the ball finding someone free at the far post (this is on pro, world class or legendary).

It is weird and its like a bug, but since I found this out I dont even need to outplay my opponent at all to win - I just do this 5 times a game and score 3. Of course the usual concept of pressing shoot very late still applies when it comes to the header, and obviously if you arent a good manual aimer you will have to practise heading on target.

[SoCal-Phenom]

Hey Brunnoce I'm always up for a game on manual. Hit me up anytime
GT: Socalibrphenom

and anyone else who plays fifa 09 manual!

[Nick Cave]

Hmmm I'm gonna give that a go andish, I always aim crosses by the sound's of that even on semi it auto aims for you...

[andish2001]

I have to admit it has taken an element out of the game for me, not having to aim crosses has become automatic for me and its a shame I cant really do the crosses I want anymore, or that if I do, it usually results in nothing. That said, the power regulation is all me :D

[Nick Cave]

Well I've tried everything on crosses with little success so I'll give it a whirl.

[Placebo]

btw, manual passing is just brilliant, i can feel the diference between players passing atributes a lot more now... when i get a team like Brazil i can pass the ball around at will, but with lower teams or evan lower player like P.Neville or Hibbert i have to really work hard to make the pass go where i want.

Told you so ;)

[Floschar]

yeah, i just gave manual shooting a test...jeez... im back to semi....

Please try shooting on manual again. For better scoring from inside the box, I recommend using the finesse (button) shooting only, this does help. I just scored 5 with Vasco da Gama against AI on PRO, not sure how this translates to online matches against better opponnents :-)

[Placebo]

Fifa freezing after pressing start, just me? Whole 360 locked up :( Tried deleting my cache.......

[Nick Cave]

Please try shooting on manual again. For better scoring from inside the box, I recommend using the finesse (button) shooting only, this does help. I just scored 5 with Vasco da Gama against AI on PRO, not sure how this translates to online matches against better opponnents :-)
You play with manual shooting... :WORSHIP:

[Floschar]

You play with manual shooting... :WORSHIP:

Muchas gracias. Yes, I somehow do enjoy the pain of missing the net
more often than not. :-)

[brunnoce]

You play with manual shooting... :WORSHIP:

agreed...
not for me though...
semi is hard enough.

[k_19]

I personally think that manual shooting was designed for use with Be a Pro mode camera ONLY, where you'd have more angles to play with with the camera view. When I play be a pro mode on BAP camera I can shoot just fine on manual. With regular Tele cam, I feel that since the net is too small in proportion to the camera, you have much less angle to work with, resulting in you blasting it to the corner flag often.

Semi is just perfect. Like I've said before, it is probably the best shooting system I've played with in any footie game. If you master it well you'll still get the easy 1-on-1's, but you'll still have instances where you miss a sitter if you don't focus. One thing I want them to improve on is long distance shooting, which should be going in just a tad more. But other than that I'd love for them to keep it the way it is.

And andish got it on the dot with crossing. Don't hold direction unless you are at the endline and want to curve it back or something, or if you want to curve it to the specific player arriving late. I find that I can cross it to the near post guy fine also, though it's harder to time since the forwards dash into the box very fast. Usually when I connect it to the near post guy, it ends up being a diving header.

Also, against the AI, I find crossing/heading works best against teams that are aggressive defenders and like to cut your passing lanes off to your forwards, since the defenders usually position themselves in front of your forwards in order to cut off any short passes. Since they like to stay ahead of your FW's, when you manage to cross the ball they're usually out of position in the air...

[YoungGun_UK]

:DD won my last 10 online games in a row, I love a hot streak!

[Erik]

:DD won my last 10 online games in a row, I love a hot streak!

I've won 2 in 20 - that's a better streak!

[quiet_riot]

Couple of gripes I'm having with this game recently....


My opponent gets a free kick, say, 30-40 yards out, and the game makes me have a two man wall in front of it. Who's in this wall? BOTH my centre-halves, leaving completely exposed if the ball is floated into the box.

Sometimes, the cut-scene for being booked just doesn't happen, I had a man sent off the other day, and didn't realise until half-time when Andy Gray mentioned it

[Nick Cave]

Couple of gripes I'm having with this game recently....


My opponent gets a free kick, say, 30-40 yards out, and the game makes me have a two man wall in front of it. Who's in this wall? BOTH my centre-halves, leaving completely exposed if the ball is floated into the box.

Sometimes, the cut-scene for being booked just doesn't happen, I had a man sent off the other day, and didn't realise until half-time when Andy Gray mentioned it
Yep good calls, get them in here...

http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=51792

[TikTikTikTikTik]

Saw that earlier in a MM match, both carra and skrtel in the wall.

[Rob92]

Haha this is awesome :D.

If you're fed up of playing cunts on assisted online, then here's a solution.
Go to the lobbies, and go on someone who wants a game and invite them to a game, but on the match settings then set the control setting to manual. They don't get told this on the invite, so they join the game and then think it's just as it normally is, until they try and pass the ball :LOL:.

[brunnoce]

Haha this is awesome :D.

If you're fed up of playing cunts on assisted online, then here's a solution.
Go to the lobbies, and go on someone who wants a game and invite them to a game, but on the match settings then set the control setting to manual. They don't get told this on the invite, so they join the game and then think it's just as it normally is, until they try and pass the ball :LOL:.

add me so we can play rob...
i use semi shooting and cross, rest is manual

[Tim7]

Same as me :)).

[drekkard]

I've ended up playing manual everything except passing, I can't get any friend to play against me on full manual so I haven't trained enough... I envy you!

[Nick Cave]

Anyone who plays with manual shooting has my respect, all I can say is you either play long halves or like very low scoring football... ;)

[Tim7]

Manual shooting is a step too far imo! :LOL: But manual passing and manual long balls are a joy to behold in the right hands :)). Look out for our Clubs highlights video hopefully later today to see some.

(Unless you are Placebo, and are "too busy", ahem...)

[Placebo]

:)

[brunnoce]

I've ended up playing manual everything except passing, I can't get any friend to play against me on full manual so I haven't trained enough... I envy you!

if u want just add me on live and we will play some games ;)

[Nick Cave]

I've asked before but is everybody else getting more players just floating along to balls, usually when they are facing backwards, not crab walking, they just slide along without moving their legs. I'm getting two or three every game now...

[Shazam!]

Manual shooting is a step too far imo! :LOL: But manual passing and manual long balls are a joy to behold in the right hands :)). Look out for our Clubs highlights video hopefully later today to see some.

(Unless you are Placebo, and are "too busy", ahem...)Absolutely. Although when I did try manual shooting, it was realistic in the sense that Robbie Keane was playing like his real-life self ie. blasting everything well wide or over...

Seriously though, manual passing and long balls is like playing a new game.

[drekkard]

if u want just add me on live and we will play some games ;)

I would have done that ages ago if I had an xbox... :CONFUSE:

[brunnoce]

I would have done that ages ago if I had an xbox... :CONFUSE:

oh i c...
to bad than :(

[mjsmith2k]

I've asked before but is everybody else getting more players just floating along to balls, usually when they are facing backwards, not crab walking, they just slide along without moving their legs. I'm getting two or three every game now...

Yep me too... only every now and then though.

The keepers in this game are really pissing me off again. Not only are the keepers slow to respond in coming out of their box in 1v1 situations, they just don't come out for balls in general. They also never respond to punch or catch a ball from a corner whipped into their far post. They just remain stuck to the line. I'm losing count of the amount of back-post headers scored because the keeper didn't respond.

[brunnoce]

Yep me too... only every now and then though.

The keepers in this game are really pissing me off again. Not only are the keepers slow to respond in coming out of their box in 1v1 situations, they just don't come out for balls in general. They also never respond to punch or catch a ball from a corner whipped into their far post. They just remain stuck to the line. I'm losing count of the amount of back-post headers scored because the keeper didn't respond.

i have a serious problem with fifa GKs;;;
imo they need to redo their AI and physics...they kind of spoil a lot of this great game since they save balls they shouldnt save by no human means.
not to mention shoots where they save without touching the ball, bad contact collision i think is the cause.

and thats mainly the reason why fifa doenst have the goal ramdomness of PES yet...u can see that the shoots arent scripted with semi and manual shooting, but the gks ruin it by making u almost aways score the same way, on 1 on 1 situations or headers.

[Placebo]

Part of the problem seems to be that they're overly aware, and can move sideways on the line far too quickly for all but the more close range finishes their GK is unrealistically good IMO, closer in with bullet headers or well struck shots their movement and reactions does seem somewhat realistic, the problem is basically anywhere beyond the penalty spot.......

......except of course when it comes to crosses/corners, in which case they're suddenly unaware of everything and glued to their line with no movement, think someone needs to create a peripheral vision mod ;)

[tobi]

Yesterday I had players disappearing from my Aston Villa and Villerreal Tournaments.

:BRICK:

I also had snow for the first time yesterday, it was a nice experience although I noticed some glaring mistakes. The snow disappears until you kick the ball at a goal kick or corner.

[newLok]

I love scoring from the halfway line once the opposition has score straight from kick-off.
talk about cutting celebration short.

how do i play 1on1 matches with ppl with low DNF.
everyone in ranked quickmatch quits.

[Joe]

I love scoring from the halfway line once the opposition has score straight from kick-off.
talk about cutting celebration short.

how do i play 1on1 matches with ppl with low DNF.
everyone in ranked quickmatch quits.

Probably because you do tosser things like shoot from the halfway line

bet you love running with ronaldo and put him upfront

[Leo]

Probably because you do tosser things like shoot from the halfway line

bet you love running with ronaldo and put him upfront

And playing it all auto.

[newLok]

haha. i hate ppl who play ronaldo as a striker.
i only use my team - Liverpool.

so how do i search for 1v1 games with ppl with 'lower' DNF?????

[Phat J 22]

when you create a ranked game just specify the dnf and save the options so it makes it like that every time for your quick ranked games.

i only do 4 star or lower, sometimes a 4.5.

i just quit and start another until i find someone who picks decent teams.

[WILDSTER180774]

I love scoring from the halfway line once the opposition has score straight from kick-off.
talk about cutting celebration short.

how do i play 1on1 matches with ppl with low DNF.
everyone in ranked quickmatch quits.

i hate ppl who do that.

[pepper63]

And playing it all auto.Break the c***s legs.:RANT:

[CW]

I started a group on Facebook last week called "EA - Can you please set the default controls on FIFA 10 to Semi?"

I am pretty sure it won't make much of a difference but if you want to give it a go then join me and the rest of the crew who are already a part of it

[nerf]

"EA - Can you please set the default controls on FIFA 10 to Semi?"
That's the last thing they'd do. Nothing is more likely to deter a potential new buyer than (relative) inaccessibility. Making it easy for people to pick up the game the first time they play is very high in the interest of any game developer.

[CW]

Would that be why EA put in the "All Manual" choice for playing online games?

Nothing else will change as far as gameplay goes for the next version of the game so why not bring this change in

[Placebo]

FIFA Soccer Blog: Fifa 09 January Transfer Window Update: Have Your Say! (http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/2009/01/fifa-09-january-transfer-window-update.html)

FSB are proud to announce a new collaboration with EA Sports, the "FSB Community Roster Update Form" (http://app.formassembly.com/forms/view/58461), this online form is your window into the EA database, it gives you the chance to ensure that data corrections about your favourite players are submitted to EA, Beckham have the wrong haircut? Torres wearing the wrong boots? Bentley's FK stats overrated? Zaki's strength/shooting/finishing/aggression underrated? Simply go to the FSB form (http://app.formassembly.com/forms/view/58461) and submit your feedback into the system, once the data is collated and verified it'll be passed on to EA Sports Data Producer's who will then disseminate it to the Data Editor's in charge of each team.

[Tim7]

Any chance of the fucking dull cunts actually getting Charlton's fonts colours right in this update? And giving us a goalie kit that isn't the exact same colour as our home kit? :ROLL: Oh and actually changing our stadium to one that resembles The Valley?

Useless cunts.

[brunnoce]

Any chance of the fucking dull cunts actually getting Charlton's fonts colours right in this update? And giving us a goalie kit that isn't the exact same colour as our home kit? :ROLL: Oh and actually changing our stadium to one that resembles The Valley?

Useless cunts.

unfortnatly i think this wont be possible, its not a data issue...
same goes for everton not haivng 3rd kits..(its really needed for games agasinst blackburn)

[Placebo]

Any chance of the fucking dull cunts actually getting Charlton's fonts colours right in this update?


In my recent travels (29 forums for the 12 teams I'm editing this time), I've received a number of complaints about kits, I spoke to my EA handler and he agrees with me that the small details are highly important and we're all going to work together to try to improve the quality of the licensed kits, to that end if you'd like to write some feedback (in the manner of a civil adult rather than a 12 year old Chocolate Milk drinking American with ADD I might add ;) ), I will be only too glad to include it in my "Kit Feedback" Email :)

[Atlantis]

I started a group on Facebook last week called "EA - Can you please set the default controls on FIFA 10 to Semi?"

I am pretty sure it won't make much of a difference but if you want to give it a go then join me and the rest of the crew who are already a part of it

Actually it would to those who is playing on d-pad (like me) as I would be pretty limitted in passing and shooting. I just can't get use to analog stick.

[Jumbo_]

Lee Catermole isn't ginger.

[pepper63]

Can they get players heights correct? Carew is taller than most but when he celebrates with team mates they are all the same height..

[Placebo]

That's not a data issue, it's how they do their cutscenes, I personally dislike it greatly, hilarious to sub off Crouch for Lennon in England games ;)

[Nick Cave]

Man I really hate cut scenes, but I doubt we'll get rid of them in 10...

[Shazam!]

I submitted a comment to fix the number and lettering design on the back of PNE's shirts.

I hope this is for a patch, and not for implementation in FIFA2010 or something.

[Placebo]

That's not a data issue so was a waste of time submitting it.

[gomito#10]

LOL

[Shazam!]

That's not a data issue so was a waste of time submitting it.Your mum.

[Tim7]

:LMAO: LMFAO!

You better run mate ;)).

[Rob92]

For Placebo regarding kits:

Coventry's away kit is slightly wrong - The colour of the text for the name/number is wrong, currently it's yellow, when in fact in real life it's white, here's the proof:

http://www.ccfc.co.uk/javaImages/f2/fe/0,,10269~5111538,00.gif

And you can also see from that picture that every letter is in upper-case, at the moment on FIFA, the first letter is upper case and the rest are lower case (i.e. "Morrison" instead of "MORRISON").

It's a well known thing that most keeper kits are fake, but if the colour could be changed then it should be orange.

[Phat J 22]

do you guys know how to fix the BAP camera glitch?

every time i enter a BAP match i have to change my camera. the settings appear to be set to what i set them to in the main menu but the actual in game camera is zoomed in to the default settings. if i go into the options mid-game i can fix it by moving the ticker one tick one way or the other; it goes to what i actually have it set to in the main menu. i have to do it every time i play in a BAP and its really tiring having to do it all the time. i know at least half a dozen other people that have this problem and its really bloody annoying.

[Shazam!]

For Placebo regarding kits:

Coventry's away kit is slightly wrong - The colour of the text for the name/number is wrong, currently it's yellow, when in fact in real life it's white, here's the proof:

http://www.ccfc.co.uk/javaImages/f2/fe/0,,10269~5111538,00.gif

And you can also see from that picture that every letter is in upper-case, at the moment on FIFA, the first letter is upper case and the rest are lower case (i.e. "Morrison" instead of "MORRISON").

It's a well known thing that most keeper kits are fake, but if the colour could be changed then it should be orange.That's not a data issue so was a waste of time submitting it.

[Rob92]

Not a waste of time submitting it here, it would however be a waste of time submitting on the FIFASoccerBlog form :).

[Shazam!]

LOL

Back me up here, man...

[Placebo]

For Placebo regarding kits:

Coventry's away kit is slightly wrong - The colour of the text for the name/number is wrong, currently it's yellow, when in fact in real life it's white, here's the proof:

http://www.ccfc.co.uk/javaImages/f2/fe/0,,10269~5111538,00.gif

And you can also see from that picture that every letter is in upper-case, at the moment on FIFA, the first letter is upper case and the rest are lower case (i.e. "Morrison" instead of "MORRISON").

It's a well known thing that most keeper kits are fake, but if the colour could be changed then it should be orange.

Thanks I'll include the info about the kit (and also GK kit) in my feedback.

Regarding the uppercase thing, that's something you "should" be able to fix yourself in edit mode I think? (Can't remember for certain) I will mention it in my Kit feedback report but chances are it won't be considered important unfortunately.

That's not a data issue so was a waste of time submitting it.

The key to avoiding appearing as though you're a numpty is to read before trolling.

http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1553284&postcount=9654
http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1553285&postcount=90

[Phat J 22]

do you guys know how to fix the BAP camera glitch?

every time i enter a BAP match i have to change my camera. the settings appear to be set to what i set them to in the main menu but the actual in game camera is zoomed in to the default settings. if i go into the options mid-game i can fix it by moving the ticker one tick one way or the other; it goes to what i actually have it set to in the main menu. i have to do it every time i play in a BAP and its really tiring having to do it all the time. i know at least half a dozen other people that have this problem and its really bloody annoying.

hey placebo..you work for ea right? where should i go to figure out to fix this?

[Placebo]

I do not work for EA sorry, I guess you could say data editors are sub-contractors :)

The only thing I can suggest is that you post the issue to the official EA forums :) There is IMO zero chance of any new fixes for Fifa09 but it's important the point is made so the same issue isn't seen in Fifa10.

[Shazam!]

The key to avoiding appearing as though you're a numpty is to read before trolling.FIFA IS SERIOUS BUSINESS

[Shazam!]

Seriously though, what can/can't/will/won't be included in the 'patch'? The feedback form refers to things like 'Beckham's Haircut'... how is that different to say, new kits or numbers?

[Placebo]

Selected Hairstyle = data.
Height = data.
Weight = data.
Player stats = data.
Team Formation = data.
Starting lineups = data.
Kick takers = data.
Player skin tone = data.
Player traits = data.
Team tactics = data.

New Kits = Art Asset.
Altered Kits = Art Asset.
New Boots = Art Asset.

Hope that makes it a bit more obvious now........

[Shazam!]

New Boots = Art Asset.

Hope that makes it a bit more obvious now........
Ish.

That's what I would've assumed if the form didn't say "Torres wearing the wrong boots"...

In regards to my numbers issue, I realise that importing brand spanking new numbers may not be possible, but linking PNE's kit to 'next best' (ie. blue with an outline) numbers already in the game might be. Anything would be better than the current ones...

[Placebo]

Ish.

That's what I would've assumed if the form didn't say "Torres wearing the wrong boots"...

Existing boots can be assigned in the database.


In regards to my numbers issue, I realise that importing brand spanking new numbers may not be possible, but linking PNE's kit to 'next best' (ie. blue with an outline) numbers already in the game might be. Anything would be better than the current ones...

Kits cannot be assigned/changed in the database.

[brunnoce]

Selected Hairstyle = data.
Height = data.
Weight = data.
Player stats = data.
Team Formation = data.
Starting lineups = data.
Kick takers = data.
Player skin tone = data.
Player traits = data.
Team tactics = data.

New Kits = Art Asset.
Altered Kits = Art Asset.
New Boots = Art Asset.

Hope that makes it a bit more obvious now........


exactly.
we do not have "power" over gfx stuff.

[Phat J 22]

I do not work for EA sorry, I guess you could say data editors are sub-contractors :)

The only thing I can suggest is that you post the issue to the official EA forums :) There is IMO zero chance of any new fixes for Fifa09 but it's important the point is made so the same issue isn't seen in Fifa10.

thank you

[brunnoce]

Existing boots can be assigned in the database.


not licensed , at least in the brazilian DB :(

[quiet_riot]

Actually it would to those who is playing on d-pad (like me) as I would be pretty limitted in passing and shooting. I just can't get use to analog stick.

I used the d-pad for my PES days, and obviously started FIFA like that, trust me, change it to the stick and persevere - you'll reap the rewards.

[Placebo]

D-pad = 90s way to play games, come in from the dark ages ;)

[Blaccat]

Hi guys

Is there a solution to this problem

"Manchester utd does not have enough players on the squad"

So i can't buy Anderson, pretty dumb on EA's part

Y is there even such a dumb message

[nerf]

Would that be why EA put in the "All Manual" choice for playing online games?

Nothing else will change as far as gameplay goes for the next version of the game so why not bring this change in
The "All Manual" choice is there for people like you who have already purchased the game, who want to further their challenge and enjoy the game in a different style once you have become capable at it. It's a selectable option, not default.

Think about someone who hasn't played the game before, who may or may not have played Pro Evo (Assisted) before, who plays the FIFA2010 demo for the first time and they can't even complete a pass - because even Semi passing takes some practice and dexterity relative to Assisted. Chances are they're going to put the game down in frustration and buy something else.

[Kallinn]

I have completely EVERYTHING on manual and it's been like that since the first week when i bought the game. :D I just love it like that. I always play in World Class and in my MM with Liverpool i win everything. So i guess I think I'm up for some online manual playing. :D

[CW]

The "All Manual" choice is there for people like you who have already purchased the game, who want to further their challenge and enjoy the game in a different style once you have become capable at it. It's a selectable option, not default.

Think about someone who hasn't played the game before, who may or may not have played Pro Evo (Assisted) before, who plays the FIFA2010 demo for the first time and they can't even complete a pass - because even Semi passing takes some practice and dexterity relative to Assisted. Chances are they're going to put the game down in frustration and buy something else.

You play it on assissted don't you...

[Jumbo_]

Well how about something that goes with your rank where when you've reached a certain amount of games/wins etc you are forced to play on semi in online matches, a bit like in COD5 where you can't join the 'practice' matches when you reach rank 8? Would get rid of the wankers who make online play boring for some people.

[Leo]

The "All Manual" choice is there for people like you who have already purchased the game, who want to further their challenge and enjoy the game in a different style once you have become capable at it. It's a selectable option, not default.

Think about someone who hasn't played the game before, who may or may not have played Pro Evo (Assisted) before, who plays the FIFA2010 demo for the first time and they can't even complete a pass - because even Semi passing takes some practice and dexterity relative to Assisted. Chances are they're going to put the game down in frustration and buy something else.

At least make the assisted controls more like the ones in PES, where not every pass and shot goes right by simply pushing the button.

[drekkard]

Well how about something that goes with your rank where when you've reached a certain amount of games/wins etc you are forced to play on semi in online matches, a bit like in COD5 where you can't join the 'practice' matches when you reach rank 8? Would get rid of the wankers who make online play boring for some people.

That's a very good idea, jumbo! I like it! So at the beggining you could choose and later on you're forced to evolve as a player. Nice!

That can be mixed up with something I also would like. Difficulty should not be about incresing the cPU cheats, but the difficulty of the game itself. So putting difficulty up should force you to play all manual.

Hey, it's so nice I will put it into the FIFA 2010 list!

[Placebo]

FIFA Soccer Blog: Fifa 09 January Transfer Window Update: Have Your Say! (http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/2009/01/fifa-09-january-transfer-window-update.html)

FSB are proud to announce a new collaboration with EA Sports, the "FSB Community Roster Update Form" (http://app.formassembly.com/forms/view/58461), this online form is your window into the EA database, it gives you the chance to ensure that data corrections about your favourite players are submitted to EA, Beckham have the wrong haircut? Torres wearing the wrong boots? Bentley's FK stats overrated? Zaki's strength/shooting/finishing/aggression underrated? Simply go to the FSB form (http://app.formassembly.com/forms/view/58461) and submit your feedback into the system, once the data is collated and verified it'll be passed on to EA Sports Data Producer's who will then disseminate it to the Data Editor's in charge of each team.


269 submissions since the blog post was made on Thursday, quite shocking :)

[StayingPower]

Placebo, will the update have stat updates too or just transfers?

[nerf]

You play it on assissted don't you...
No, that's a ridiculous assumption to make. Semi Passing/Shooting/Crossing, Manual Through/Long.

You've just got to think about it from EA's point of view.

[Placebo]

Placebo, will the update have stat updates too or just transfers?

Everything that's data related, appearances, stats, transfers, team lineups, kick takers, tactics, etc. etc.

[mjsmith2k]

Are you sorting Forest too Placebo?

It would be nice if Wes Morgan was black instead of white :)).

[Placebo]

No they're not one of my teams, I just checked the DB and he is black now, he has the same skin tone as Leon Clarke/Wade Small of Sheffield Wednesday, so if you want to look at either of those on your TV you'll know if he's black enough or not.

[mjsmith2k]

Thanks. He is a bit darker though, more of an Adebeyor tone, the darkest.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8558/4861651ez8.jpg

Could you possibly pass this on to the editing forum?

Much appreciated.

[Hyypiä II]

When is this roster update coming?

How specific it is, example: is there Juha Hakola in Heracles?

[Tim7]

It will probably be released the first week or second week of February.

[YoungGun_UK]

Thanks. He is a bit darker though, more of an Adebeyor tone, the darkest.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8558/4861651ez8.jpg

Could you possibly pass this on to the editing forum?

Much appreciated.

Racist ;))

[mjsmith2k]

Racist ;))

I knew someone would say that LOL. I tried to be as PC as possible :)).

[Placebo]

Thanks. He is a bit darker though, more of an Adebeyor tone, the darkest.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8558/4861651ez8.jpg

Could you possibly pass this on to the editing forum?

Much appreciated.

I can if you submit it using the form ;)

When is this roster update coming?

How specific it is, example: is there Juha Hakola in Heracles?

Mid February as the window closes 1700 Zulu Feb 2nd 2009.

And yes Juha Hakola is at Heracles.

[mjsmith2k]

I can if you submit it using the form ;)

Submitted via the FSB form.

[Placebo]

Good lad :)

[shorty alien]

Is it possible to change the game speed when setting up online custom unranked games? I can't seem to find the option anywhere. I heard near launch, whatever speed you had set offline, would be set online if you hosted the game being the home team. But I've also heard it's locked at normal (I prefer slow) in all online modes?

[Ogami]

I don't think you can change it. Anyway, gamespeed when playing online looks more to me like the "slow" one.

[shorty alien]

I think it's set to normal online, too fast for me.

Even Slow speed for me is still too fast offline, which is why I use these tweaks that result in the most realistic simulation:

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/359582-bluchampbloggers-ultimate-guide-realistic-football-fifa-09-a.html

http://fifa.bluechampions.com/2008/11/23/fifa-09-revolution-update/#more-44

-Reducing acceleration, sprint speed, and short passing by -15 for any teams that you like play as (against similarly edited CPU teams).

They work best on slow speed rather than normal, and I had hoped you could set it online (if you played specialist matches against another player using these tweaks).

This realism mod, especially if you play it on all manual, for me it's the only way to play the game, rather than the arcadey, ping-pong, superfast, assisted-controls-that-make-the-game-too-easy online and default play.

[StayingPower]

Alright lads I am now part of the all manual club. It's very hard, especially shooting.

[shorty alien]

All Manual is great, apart from the shooting. When you get it right, you can put the ball anywhere in the gall and score some crackers, but it's too random and oversenitive. It seems more tailor made for the BAP camera, where you can see all the goal and have more angles. It's very very hard on tele cam.

[StayingPower]

Yeah, I've scored 3 goals in 2 games but I bumped the difficulty all the way down to Semi-Pro while I got the hang of it. Crossing is quite hard to, I'm so used to semi where I don't really have to aim it, now I keep crossing it way out of bounds.

[shorty alien]

I always make sure I look at the specific player I'm crossing to, then adjust the power and direction while looking at him, to guide the ball into his area. It's not that easy and can be hit and miss, but I've just about got used to it. A manual cross that connects is a good feeling.

All Manual also feels much better with the realism tweak/mod I mentioned above. you actually have time on the ball and you passing and shooting is better and more careful, rather than rushed due to the ping-pong pace of the default speeds.

[Hyypiä II]

Mid February as the window closes 1700 Zulu Feb 2nd 2009.

And yes Juha Hakola is at Heracles.

Thanks for the info, all-mighty Placebo!:BOP:

[Kallinn]

Guys. I found this (http://postdownload.filefront.com/12757903//ad7e3d0be804c877147f628d6c09384282f65209412216d461 6a1f28da6c04716021e76a71f8d11d) at the EA community.

They have tweaked the stats of many leagues so they game looks more realistic. They have minus the acceleration, sprint speed and short passes of 15 each player and they play with Passing and shots at auto and the rest manual. Its amazing, i've tried.

Anyways...Here's the thread (http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/359582-bluchampbloggers-ultimate-guide-realistic-football-fifa-09-a.html).

[Jumbo_]

:LOL: Kallinn read post 9706 of this thread.

[andish2001]

Wow, that really is a revolution. I fear this thread is about to go haywire!! All hail bluechampblogger!!

[drekkard]

I'm doubtful about this. I like passing speed and speed/acceleration reduced by 15, but why should we put passing and shooting to AUTO? It feels absurd to me. Do this tweaks have a nice effect on SEMI or MANUAL settings? Anyone?

[brunnoce]

if u wanna test this the easy way, just play some games with some lower div. teams...that way ull be playing with players that have lower ratings.

[YoungGun_UK]

:LOL: Exactly.

[Shazam!]

why should we put passing and shooting to AUTO? It feels absurd to me. Do this tweaks have a nice effect on SEMI or MANUAL settings? Anyone?
I don't think you have to. I think he was just stating his control preference, irrespective of any stat tweaking later on.

[CW]

Stat tweaking, really?!

I thought most of us got past this phase when we stopped playing we10

[pepper63]

I have completely EVERYTHING on manual and it's been like that since the first week when i bought the game. :D I just love it like that. I always play in World Class and in my MM with Liverpool i win everything. So i guess I think I'm up for some online manual playing. :DNo you have'nt,No you don't,and No you're not.:D

[shorty alien]

I don't think you have to. I think he was just stating his control preference, irrespective of any stat tweaking later on.

I think any assisted controls hamper the game and make it too easy and unskillful. The minimum I prefer is all semi. But using these tweaks with all manual (or a semi and manual combo if others prefer) is top knotch. If you're looking for a simulation, for me, it's the only way to pay the game.

I would rather EA looked at BluChamp's tweaks and applied it to the 'SLOW' speed setting, beacuse it seems they've neglected the purists who are looking for a realistic simulation.

I've heard conflicting reports that you can play with the slow speed in online custom matches, if you set slow in your offline settings and host the game:

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/346216-how-change-speed-fifa-09-online-look.html

If that's true, then it would be possible to apply the speed tweaks which work better on slow, and play other players using the tweaks in online specialist matches. That would be cool, and we'd have our simulation online, instead of restricting this tweak to offline.

[Kallinn]

No you have'nt,No you don't,and No you're not.:D

lol :P:P

[andish2001]

if u wanna test this the easy way, just play some games with some lower div. teams...that way ull be playing with players that have lower ratings.

Youve missed the point of what he was trying to achieve. Playing at the lower levels undoubtedly makes it a slower game - as it should be when compared the premier league or serie a. But if you reduce the league two players' stats by 15, and the premier league stats by 15, that to him represents more realistic pacing of the game. Ive tried it, and personally, i think its brilliant. some of his suggestions are a bit wack, like using dynamic camera the whole time, but if you use his custom tactics for say chelsea vs manu, and edit all the players of these two teams as he has recommended, you'll see the difference. Its surprising how much more advanced the AI is with these tweaks. they are able to string together much more advanced moves then what ive been seeing with the game up until now. Editing those two teams and playing a night match with his recommended 10 minute halves, trying to play possession and with the lower stats - its completely brilliant. The pace is spot on next to a champions league match, the star players REALLY stand out and become genuinely important (lampard for chelsea in particular) and the general behavioural traits of the players seem to have been enhanced as well, with lampard arriving late with more frequency and drogba holding up the ball, or either of the coles flying down the touchline as they should have done when the game was released.

Also note, brunnoce, before dismissing his theories out of hand, that he has deliberately done this to the top teams so the players maintain their high vision stats, or ronaldo with his high agility stats, so that only the pace of the game, not the technical level or skill of the players is affected. The result is a more entertaining match both to play and especially watch, with a feeling of greater reaction time at your fingers, the ability to actually use dribbling to create diagonal runs and to make defenders commit.

Try it.

[Phat J 22]

you're really making me want to try it but i think im too lazy. if someone wants to try an unranked game with these stat adjustments id be down though.

[Ogami]

360 got its 3rd ROD, no more FIFA for me.

At least I'll be able to take a nice break, I got really addicted to it these last few weeks. :PRAY:

[andish2001]

Although the stat adjustments were great, i had to reset my squads, as my brother didnt like the slower gameplay and i mainly play internationals with him. Plus, because i only did the big 4 at first (took 1.5 hours!), only some players in some national sides were slow! even though they were the best players...for anyone that plays only single player matches, i would thoroughly recommend the 'update'

[_-JuXs-_]

why inter have wrong kits in this fifa on x360??

[brunnoce]

Youve missed the point of what he was trying to achieve. Playing at the lower levels undoubtedly makes it a slower game - as it should be when compared the premier league or serie a. But if you reduce the league two players' stats by 15, and the premier league stats by 15, that to him represents more realistic pacing of the game. Ive tried it, and personally, i think its brilliant. some of his suggestions are a bit wack, like using dynamic camera the whole time, but if you use his custom tactics for say chelsea vs manu, and edit all the players of these two teams as he has recommended, you'll see the difference. Its surprising how much more advanced the AI is with these tweaks. they are able to string together much more advanced moves then what ive been seeing with the game up until now. Editing those two teams and playing a night match with his recommended 10 minute halves, trying to play possession and with the lower stats - its completely brilliant. The pace is spot on next to a champions league match, the star players REALLY stand out and become genuinely important (lampard for chelsea in particular) and the general behavioural traits of the players seem to have been enhanced as well, with lampard arriving late with more frequency and drogba holding up the ball, or either of the coles flying down the touchline as they should have done when the game was released.

Also note, brunnoce, before dismissing his theories out of hand, that he has deliberately done this to the top teams so the players maintain their high vision stats, or ronaldo with his high agility stats, so that only the pace of the game, not the technical level or skill of the players is affected. The result is a more entertaining match both to play and especially watch, with a feeling of greater reaction time at your fingers, the ability to actually use dribbling to create diagonal runs and to make defenders commit.

Try it.

im not dismissing anything...just saying that if u wanna see how the pace of the game will be, just play with lower league teams...
ull have a taste.

[shorty alien]

you're really making me want to try it but i think im too lazy. if someone wants to try an unranked game with these stat adjustments id be down though.

I wouldn't mind trying one. We could each pick a team (or two), edit and then try a match. Andish you could do the same if you want. So far I've edited a few teams on another profile, not my XBL one, which I'll get round to, gamertag being "shorty alien x2". We could arrange times and dates.

EDIT:

Andish, You don't have to reset your squads. Squads 1 is the default file which is also used online. If you save and load a new squads file, you can edit the stats at will, and if you want to go back to default at any time, load squads 1 back up.

I had mentioned the solution in one of my earlier threads. What I do is to save the squad with a title 'REVOLUTION' and as 'REVOLUTIONX' and also as 'REVOLUTIONY' just for safety and backups. As far as I know the online squads are saved as 'SQUADS1' or something. They do not overwrite the manually saved squads as long as you save with a different name such as 'REVOLUTION' etc. What I also do is, whenever I start a session, I go to My FIFA 09 and LOAD the manually created/saved squad file before I start up any match.

Hope this helps.

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/364986-fifa-revolution-update-bluchampblogger-3.html

Also the link above is an updated thread. EA have apparently been looking the threads, interesting!

[Placebo]

EA have apparently been looking the threads, interesting!

They have? Just looked and I couldn't see any......

[shorty alien]

It's on page 5 of the updated Revolution thread.

WoooW! You know what, the player attributes editing suggested by me have really got the attention of EA! In one of their podcasts they have made a specific reference to this thread and discussed about it!

Check out this link in EAfootballworld.com
http://www.eafootballworld.com/en_GB/news/NEWS_podcast141109

Thanks to all of you who supported this idea and the ones made constructive criticisms.

I've edited Arsenal and Spurs on my XBL profile, saved into a new squad file with the original default Sqauds 1 file still there. I'll just switch and load the second one whenever I play with the tweak mod. If anyone wants an unranked match I'm up for it as mentioned earlier.

[Nick Cave]

Let's hope they act on our list too,can we digitally get a signature list on the bottom, I'm certain everyone on here who plays FIFA will sign it...

[Ogami]

You know, it'd be great if they actually did it. I also find the game to be slightly too fast. Hell, they could even do it for the february update, though it's never gonna happen.
There's no point in me doing it since I mostly play ranked games online, and the changes would not apply.

Let's hope they will take this into account for FIFA 10.

[pepper63]

My elite just got the RROD,BASTARDO!!!!

[Shazam!]

I edited Arsenal and Liverpool with the -15 stat advice, and it was one of the best games I ever played.

I ended up losing 1-0, but it was one of the best games I ever played. Arsenal actually played like Arsenal, with short snappy passing.

[Nick Cave]

My elite just got the RROD,BASTARDO!!!!


:(( How long have you had it...

[brunnoce]

damn, im started to get afraid...
seems alot of elites(falcon motherboard) are dieng these last couple of weeks...

i think i might sell mine while it still alive and buy a brand new one with the new jasper motherboard.

[Nick Cave]

damn, im started to get afraid...
seems alot of elites(falcon motherboard) are dieng these last couple of weeks...

i think i might sell mine while it still alive and buy a brand new one with the new jasper motherboard.
Have they sorted the RROD with the new board...?

[brunnoce]

Have they sorted the RROD with the new board...?

thats what people are speculating...
seems this new board use 65mm chips, which suposely run a lot cooler.

[BobbyBox]

They said they put another motherboard into my elite. Does that mean I would have got the Jasper one?

[brunnoce]

They said they put another motherboard into my elite. Does that mean I would have got the Jasper one?

i really dunno

[Tim7]

Who is this Jasper dickhead and why is he breaking everyone's consoles?!

[Jumbo_]

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/01_04/carrottgoldDM2401_468x459.jpg

[CW]

I knew that was coming as soon as someone mentioned Jasper, I am amazed it took this long

[Placebo]

Grossly underrated comedian, his daughter's lovely as well :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/gofugyourself/GFY092007/91766735.jpg

[Tim7]

Meh, she's alright.

[Placebo]

Fuck off it's Dawn!

[Tim7]

I don't care if it's dawn, dusk or sunset, she's mediocre.

[Jumbo_]

She's got a kinda charm about her, if you aint seen her act Tim you wont get it, she's no knockout but there's something about her.

And he is not funny. Not any more.

[Nick Cave]

Ahhhh I remember when I was nowt but a lad this was just a FIFA thread, nothing but FIFA posts as far as the eye could see...