FIFA 09 PS3/360 Discussion Thread

[JayD]

All Semi / Manual lovers look at this thread

http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1479265#post1479265

[k_19]

How do you jockey tackle on world class, I can't get near them its pissing me off now

Your best bet is to not try to tackle much at all in central midfield. CPU on WC is ridiculous enough with dribbling that if they have space to work with in the midfield, you can't really do much. Best thing to do in central midfield is to keep a good distance between the ballhandler and block off the passing and dribbling lanes. DO NOT use tackle. Once the CPU gets to the edge of the field/wings, that is when you can use X (square in PS3) to call for pressure defense and try to dispossess them with a tackle, since they won't have room to work with. You can also try to tackle carefully in the final third (but NOT with the final defender, as it is too risky... do it with a midfielder), as they usually take a longer touch to create themselves some room for the shot. Also, take my earlier advice and set the defense line to offside trap, since it will bring the defense line up further and CPU will be more careful in how they time their runs (and naturally creating more pressure, giving you a better chance of dispossessing them). Set the defense line width to full as well, so that you can cover the wings.

With the above tactics, they will make more back passes and be more composed in their attacks. It might be annoying to give them all that possession, yes, but it also makes the game a lot more realistic build up wise. (If you try to tackle them all the time, since they can get around you effortlessly, they will be bombarding you with speedy attacks all the time).

Another key is to keep a good possession on offense. Obviously, more you have the ball, the less THEY will have time on the ball, and this way you can build more attacks and make it seem like more of a real life game. Set your tactic to possession and you can build up some good attacks and keep them from getting the ball.

With these tactics, I can win fairly often on WC even with a weaker team. They'll still get their share of ridiculous goals, but it's rare that I allow more than 10 shots to them per game now. I can get around 7 or 6. This is with passing/shooting on semi and everything else on manual, so I'd reckon if I played with assisted controls I'd be beating them by a few goals each time. :D

[Disqo]

Your best bet is to not try to tackle much at all in central midfield. CPU on WC is ridiculous enough with dribbling that if they have space to work with in the midfield, you can't really do much. Best thing to do in central midfield is to keep a good distance between the ballhandler and block off the passing and dribbling lanes. DO NOT use tackle. Once the CPU gets to the edge of the field/wings, that is when you can use X (square in PS3) to call for pressure defense and try to dispossess them with a tackle, since they won't have room to work with. You can also try to tackle carefully in the final third (but NOT with the final defender, as it is too risky... do it with a midfielder), as they usually take a longer touch to create themselves some room for the shot. Also, take my earlier advice and set the defense line to offside trap, since it will bring the defense line up further and CPU will be more careful in how they time their runs (and naturally creating more pressure, giving you a better chance of dispossessing them). Set the defense line width to full as well, so that you can cover the wings.

With the above tactics, they will make more back passes and be more composed in their attacks. It might be annoying to give them all that possession, yes, but it also makes the game a lot more realistic build up wise. (If you try to tackle them all the time, since they can get around you effortlessly, they will be bombarding you with speedy attacks all the time).

Another key is to keep a good possession on offense. Obviously, more you have the ball, the less THEY will have time on the ball, and this way you can build more attacks and make it seem like more of a real life game. Set your tactic to possession and you can build up some good attacks and keep them from getting the ball.

With these tactics, I can win fairly often on WC even with a weaker team. They'll still get their share of ridiculous goals, but it's rare that I allow more than 10 shots to them per game now. I can get around 7 or 6. This is with passing/shooting on semi and everything else on manual, so I'd reckon if I played with assisted controls I'd be beating them by a few goals each time. :D

Thanks mate

[vglntv95]

It's too easy with assisted through balls, you can just pass forward a couple of times into the final third, press through ball and you are almost guaranteed to be in behind the defence, with manual, even though they suck a bit, you have to really think about the angle and strength you play it at, this is far more realistic and also more satisfying when you do get one right.

Lol at my last three games. Won against Stuart on penalties after a thrilling end to end match, then beat Rob 1-0 with a volley from the most impossible angle ever. To be fair Bulgaria vs Ecuador was a bit of a mismatch

[StuartCulli]

I was on manual through balls for our game and I should have buried that Butt left-foot strike which hit the bar. Penalties don't count for shit :D

[vglntv95]

My approach to penalties is they count if you win them, but they don't count if you lose them.

That was unlucky, although I did hit the post with Defoe as well. It was that sort of game though, it had everything.

[Machines]

Does anyone know where I can find a "strategy guide" online for FIFA 09? I'm interested in all the essentially hidden controls in the game. Sportsgamer.com posted one a while back but I can't find it for the life of me right now.

[Bobo21]

Does anyone know where I can find a "strategy guide" online for FIFA 09? I'm interested in all the essentially hidden controls in the game. Sportsgamer.com posted one a while back but I can't find it for the life of me right now.

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ea-sports-fifa-discussion/270383-official-players-guide-fifa09-ea-sports-updated-9-28-56k-warning.html

[SXFuzz]

a goal from me. everything on semi.

http://www.eafootballworld.com/de_DE/video/1757243

Dear EA Sports,

If you're going to force us into uploading replays we want to save, at least make the feature stable! (YOU CUNTS!)

5 times now I've got between 30-45% through the upload, only for the game to suddenly play a crowd sound, freeze the upload and then, when I attempt to quit the replay feature, crash on me.

Half the goals I score are only interesting for me and/or my mates as people online would watch and be like 'what's so special about that?'

Kind Regards,
Adolf Hitler

[Placebo]

Does anyone know where I can find a "strategy guide" online for FIFA 09? I'm interested in all the essentially hidden controls in the game. Sportsgamer.com posted one a while back but I can't find it for the life of me right now.

Better organised version: http://www.sweetpatch.tv/FIFA09Guide

[Machines]

Better organised version: http://www.sweetpatch.tv/FIFA09Guide

That's some good stuff there. I haven't seen that before. But I what I was looking for is a breakdown of all the controls that aren't listed in the manual. Sportsgamer.com had a whole section that showed controls like lift passes and stuff like that. I'm going to keep hunting and if I find it I will post it here.

Thanks for those links, though. Good stuff in there, too.

EDIT: Here's an even more organized version of the info Placebo and Bobo linked to: http://www.sportsgamer.com/fifa09/training_camp/

EDIT 2: Here is some of what I was talking about: http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/2123/exclusive-fifa-09-screens-and-new-controls-breakdown/

[jflores]

Can someone please explain to me how to properly record the entire replay vids for EA Sports Football World. Do I need to hit the "Y" to save vid after it plays, or should I save it before it plays?

I usually get only the tail end of the vids instead of the whole sequence as it should do. What am I doing wrong?

[Ozkar]

Quick question guys:

I'm in the middle of Be A Pro Seasons playing as myself :) Just transfered from LA Galaxy to Leverkusen. My question is, is Champions League games included in this mode? Let's say we win the Bundesliga, will there be european games to play next season?

[Chris Davies]

Yes (not experienced it myself but I've heard a few people talk about it).

[DaWu]

Dear EA Sports,

If you're going to force us into uploading replays we want to save, at least make the feature stable! (YOU CUNTS!)

5 times now I've got between 30-45% through the upload, only for the game to suddenly play a crowd sound, freeze the upload and then, when I attempt to quit the replay feature, crash on me.

Half the goals I score are only interesting for me and/or my mates as people online would watch and be like 'what's so special about that?'

Kind Regards,
Adolf Hitler

hitler? wtf?

[Ozkar]

Yes (not experienced it myself but I've heard a few people talk about it).

Ok cool!


Really loving this mode now. Playing as a striker you don't get those annoying "-DEFENCE" all the time as you get when playing as a winger. When playing on the wing it seems the game expects you to mark 3 players at the same time.

[riboflavin]

AI Still needs some work on Defense...and kinda funny goal

http://www.eafootballworld.com/en_GB/video/1686703

[k_19]

I would just like to expand on the art of teammate press defensive control, and how one can master it to absolutely own World Class difficulty against the CPU with the right teams (for those who are having trouble defending on World Class and higher).

Teammate press/double team defense has been in WE games a long time, but it has been in FIFA for the last several iterations also. I'm sure most people have used this quite often during their games, but most of the time, I see that they are not utilizing this feature as how they should. Most people mindlessly push the button for help defense, hoping that the opposing player would falter, and against a low skill human opponent or CPU in professional or lower difficulty, this works very easily. However, I'm sure a lot of you find that this does not help nearly as much in the World Class difficulty... as a matter of fact, at this level, CPU will still run circles around you effortlessly if you apply this improperly. Where most people go wrong in implementing this, is how the defensive players are positioned in regards to the man with the ball.

The main point of teammate press should be to restrict the passing lanes and dribbling lanes of the man with the ball in regards to going forward. The two players ALWAYS need to be positioned at a 45 degree angle in respect to the man with the ball in order to close out the space most efficiently. Here is my very amateur paint diagram to show you in pictures:

http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fifawcpressuredefensediig3.png

As you see in the picture, you can see that the options of the CPU man with the ball is basically the small gap between the two defenders or passing backwards/laterally, greatly restricting the man's options in regards to going forward. Basically, unless there is a man available to pass to in that hole, the man will be left with no options. Ideally, there are several ways around this for the man with the ball. One is to play long balls down the field over the defenders, and two is for the team to string one touch passes quickly enough so that the two defenders do not have the time to maintain that position (and I suppose if the player is really good, he can dribble through the two defenders, but that's pretty difficult). While those tactics work well when in hands of skilled human players, you'll see that the CPU usually do not get around to it. The CPU on world class has a thing for keeping possession, trying to find the perfect pass and trying to dribble around the defenders, and you'll see that longer you maintain this position, more hesitant the CPU gets. As CPU hesitates, that is your chance to close out the press and dispossess them of the ball. This works best in the sidelines or the corners, since you can restrict the CPU even more by taking away their backpass and lateral passing lanes (since behind them would be out of bounds). Doing this in midfield, while risky, works well too, and most of the time you will find the CPU making back or lateral passes instead.

A plus effect of this is that you will be able to sometimes dispossess the CPU in the midfield and at their defensive line, creating a lot more offensive opportunities. And since CPU in World Class seems to like push their players constantly up, you'll have a LOT of counter attacking opportunities.

There are two things that you should know in employing this tactic against the CPU:

- First, this is quite risky to do in the central midfield due to the fact that they have a lot more room to work with. With pressure defense, you are basically removing another player from his position to help, so if you do this improperly, you will pay dearly as one man will be left unmarked. If the ball still somehow gets to that man, you are screwed. This is why I STRONGLY recommend that the man you press with is NOT one of final line of defenders. You're better off doing it with a midfielder, a forward, or a winger instead, since you will still have covering if you screw up.

- Second, this works better with certain teams, particularly ones with superior strength and body balance (since pressuring with them will make it easier to dispossess the ball). If you are playing a team with weak players and facing a team with superior strength, their player might still find a way to muscle through both of your defenders.

- Third and final point is that if the CPU is a goal down or tied towards the end of the game, they WILL change up their tactic and become VERY, very aggressive. At this time, they will most likely play some perfect long balls, rely on dribble less and attempt more one-touch passing. To counter the long balls, I recommend that you employ a offside trap so that you can catch them aggressively going forward. With one touch passing, you'll just have to do your best to keep the defense shape and cut off the passing lane as much as you can. When CPU goes into this "cheap" mode, it would be in your best interest to set your mentality to ultra defensive, set your defense width as wide as you can (CPU likes lobbing long balls to their wingers) and try to keep as much possession as you can (you don't want them to have possession, trust me). You can also employ counter attack tactic and try to catch them off guard, finishing them off for good.

And there you go. Now you should have a much easier time dealing with the World Class CPU. More you dispossess them, the more you have the ball, and more chances there is for you to use it to attack, score, and win. (This tactic is actually also a fundamental tactic in real football, but it is mainly used by the defenders to close up the shooting room in the final third.) With these tactics, I can beat even the 5 star teams with relative ease, and even score some upsets using a weaker team, with semi/manual control scheme (semi for shooting/passing, manual for others). I've been using same tactics in WE/PES as well, and it works just as well. To a degree, you can also employ this tactic against human players and be successful with it. Hopefully some of you having trouble in WC difficulty will try this out, and be successful in doing so. :D Hope you can find this helpful.

[red_devils2k4]

i wanted to asked before i start a manager mode. Can you change team when ur in management mode or do u have to stay with the team u have selected?

[matt1288]

Can someone please explain to me how to properly record the entire replay vids for EA Sports Football World. Do I need to hit the "Y" to save vid after it plays, or should I save it before it plays?

I usually get only the tail end of the vids instead of the whole sequence as it should do. What am I doing wrong?

When you score your goal, right after your celebration you'll have a replay, when that starts hit X on your Xbox 360, or SQUARE on your PS3 and click Y, choose a slot and it will upload it. Then you go to your EAfootball account, click MY VIDEOS and you'll have it there.

Hope that helped.

[Tim7]

Quick question guys:

I'm in the middle of Be A Pro Seasons playing as myself :) Just transfered from LA Galaxy to Leverkusen. My question is, is Champions League games included in this mode? Let's say we win the Bundesliga, will there be european games to play next season?

Yes (not experienced it myself but I've heard a few people talk about it).

I'd have to say I really doubt it, seeing as Playoffs aren't in BAP mode, nor are any other type of cups.

[Scutch]

I finished 2nd with Spurs in the Premiership behind Chelsea. Lost 3 games, won the Carling Cup too.

My team now is :

Gomes
--
Hutton
King
Woodgate
Bale
--
Quaresma
Modric
Diego
Dos Santos
--
Aguero
Ibrahimovic

Subs :

Cesar
Corluka
Gattuso
Veloso
Lennon
Arshavin
Bent

Awesome game. Ibrahimovic is now rated 95 overall, and is worth £59m :)
Aguero is class too. Pace and finishing all the way. Quaresma's crossing ability is unreal, the swerve and dip on them is amazing, and his dribbling skills are awesome too. Cost me £18m from Inter.

Loving it.

[Nick Cave]

i wanted to asked before i start a manager mode. Can you change team when ur in management mode or do u have to stay with the team u have selected?

you choose to resign every season or not as the case may be...

[imothop]

@k_19

Thanks for your great effort and your very nice tips in playing a good defense against CPU. I will try some of your tips for sure (like set the defense line to offside trap etc) cause i have got some problems with defending against the CPU. So Thanks a lot, really appreciate it!

[tobi]

I'm convinced now that my game doesn't like me. i started a new BAP season with Villareal this morning and i won my first game 3 nil vs Valencia, I won MoM too. I get back to the main menu and it says that Valencia won 3 nil :SHOCK:

I'm so pissed with this game now, I emailed EA about my troubles playing with Spurs and not being able to do anything in the Manager Mode and they replied by giving me troubleshooting tips on how to play the game online :BRICK:

WTF

[WILDSTER180774]

any latest on a patch?

[Nick Cave]

I'd just like to have quick players whip slow defenders or midfielders in a game without stupid catch up for once... And yes any news from EA on Patch date, I know we had a little list posted...

[Nick Cave]

On another point I can't get any weather now in my MM's any pointers? I had rain in a couple, following the set it to overcast in the exhibition game stadium and have that stadium as your save point in the MM, but I saved over that one by accident, I did the same thing again though but no luck?

[YoungGun_UK]

I love how players feel so unique in this game, You won't feel it as much in a side such as Man Utd (as most our top talents) and the same with Hull(As there all lower quality) for example but play with a side who has a one of oustanding talent and its just amazing, I was playing as Werder Bremen and there team is so unique in each player. Deigo is absolutely quality on the ball while Rosenberg is a nippy striker who can really run! Just out of interest if I start a Manager Mode will it get deleted once the patch hits

[WEtongelre]

Finisht first with Arsenal on Worldclass... Scored 124 goals and 22 against.

My team:

Almunia
Toure
Pepe
Gallas
Clichy
Fabregas
Walcott
v Persie
De Rossi
Eduardo
Adebayor (Scored 66 goals!)

I will try Legendary on my second season.

[jflores]

When you score your goal, right after your celebration you'll have a replay, when that starts hit X on your Xbox 360, or SQUARE on your PS3 and click Y, choose a slot and it will upload it. Then you go to your EAfootball account, click MY VIDEOS and you'll have it there.

Hope that helped.

Thanks for your reply/help matt1288.

I usually do what you say to access the manual replay mode, however my confusion does not lie there. It's hard to explain in writing, but I'll try.

When in manual replay mode, the replay starts to play automatically correct? if you hit "Y", it will give you the option to save and upload which I understand. However, I usually take manual control of my replays, and change camera angles and any other adjustments to my liking before I save. In my last replay/save attempt, I noticed that it only recorded the last seconds of the replay sequence and not the whole thing. My question is, at what point while in manual replay mode, do I start/stop the recording so that the whole sequence of events will show on the vid?

My suspicion is that at the point that you begin to manually, in slow motion, run the play from any point to it's end, is actually what will be saved.

So, if Rooney gets the ball, goes past two defenders, around the goalie and scores. When in manual replay mode, if I fast-forward only to where Rooney went around the goalie for a score and let the replay run from this point to it's end, then THIS is the only sequence that will be saved, where as any actions previous to that will be cut out. Hope you understand.

So, after you hit "X", and the replay begins to play, do you just hit "Y" as the replay is automatically playing to save?

[Tim7]

Finisht first with Arsenal on Worldclass... Scored 124 goals and 22 against.

My team:

Almunia
Toure
Pepe
Gallas
Clichy
Fabregas
Walcott
v Persie
De Rossi
Eduardo
Adebayor (Scored 66 goals!)

I will try Legendary on my second season.
Try manual ;)).

[WEtongelre]

Try manual ;)).

I don't need stress :BLINK:

[Erik]

Finisht first with Arsenal on Worldclass... Scored 124 goals and 22 against.

My team:

Almunia
Toure
Pepe
Gallas
Clichy
Fabregas
Walcott
v Persie
De Rossi
Eduardo
Adebayor (Scored 66 goals!)

I will try Legendary on my second season.


Well that's sounds like a lot of fun.........

[Tim7]

I don't need stress :BLINK:
So you're happy thumping the CPU every match and not challenging yourself then?

[Erik]

Two cents on the game from a Yank.

I finally had some time to play the game over the weekend and have to say that, for the most part, the game is great. I am not a Fifa pro as some people on here may be, although I've been playing Fifa games for as long as I can remember. I also flirted with Winning Eleven/PES for two years a couple of years ago. Back when it was seriously fun to play that game and I would actually trade in my Fifa copy to buy Winning Eleven.

I've played about 10 games so far, all on professional with mostly semi or manual controls. To be honest, I suck at it as it's the first time I've even tried it. I am not an online player either so don't flame me. : )

As far as the game goes, it's really inching towards the perfect football sim. Some of the player collisions remind me of the EA Hockey franchise though which isn't good. The AI is much more advanced this year and I haven't had a cakewalk of a game yet. I think I've only scored 2 goals or less in any of my games. I've read alot about the menus being horrible but I seem to be able to navigate them fairly easily without much lag. All in all this is a very good game for anyone sitting on the fence or waiting for PES to come out.

Also, adding to the realism of this game is MM. My one biggest gripe about MM though is it seems to completely like last year, minus the new game engine, that I had a hard time getting excited for it when I loaded it up. I ended up playing as Liverpool (for reasons such as 3 kits and a stadium that has all 3 weather options) and have played 4 games so far. My first was against Chelsea away and I won 1-0. My second was against Man U home and I again won 1-0. I then go to West Ham and win 2-1. However, I then play HULL at home and tie 1-1. These games have been seriously tough to get through - changing tactics, players etc and it's made it all the more fun to play.

Now for those complaining about weather options. I've decided to play my games from August to October in Daylight. Premier League games are all played during the day anyway except midweek night matches from time to time. From October through February I will just play Overcast and then back to day for the rest of the year. It literally only takes me 20 seconds to get out of MM mode, change the weather effects in an exhibition and start my MM mode back up again. It doesn't seem to matter which stadium you have your weather effects set up for as long as the stadium you are playing in supports the change.

As far as the through ball bug - I have had it a few times and try not to let it bother me. HOWEVER, I have now seen the "Through Ball Bug" on a throw in where my player does the same thing. Hopefully EA can patch that somehow. I don't care about the number changing on kits - i would rather have the option to change the stadium or weather manually before each game no matter what mode.

The only other thing that bothers me about this game is the noise the ball makes coming off the keepers gloves. It's so retarted and drives me nuts.

Anyway, sorry for the long post but this game is awesome so far and I think 2010 will be even better.

[Tim7]

I have NEVER seen the through ball bug, I almost feel left out :((.

[Carozzi]

just a quick question, i know it has probabily been covered in detail before but is there a patch to sort out the free argents or players who play for the internationals who club teams ain't on the game so i can sign them in manager mode

or do i have to do them manually myself in the manage team, club transfers thing

[Erik]

just a quick question, i know it has probabily been covered in detail before but is there a patch to sort out the free argents or players who play for the internationals who club teams ain't on the game so i can sign them in manager mode

or do i have to do them manually myself in the manage team, club transfers thing

Club transfers - also, unlike last year they seem to stay there no matter how many Manager Modes you start.

[Carozzi]

sorry but do you mean that if i make the changes in the club transfer option thing then they will not be free agents in manager mode ??

[Tim7]

The very thread under this one is entitled FIFA Editing - Free Transfers, and you didn't look in there? :SS

[Carozzi]

The very thread under this one is entitled FIFA Editing - Free Transfers, and you didn't look in there? :SS


sorry my bad i did not see that thread i have it now, cheers

[JayD]

I have NEVER seen the through ball bug, I almost feel left out :((.

Me neither. I honestly have not seen it at all.

[KNGMNKY]

Me neither. I honestly have not seen it at all.

I haven't seen it happen on the 360 but on the PS3 version I have at my girlfriends it's murder, happens all the time.

[Placebo]

I've never seen it either, seems to be a predominately PS3 thing, same as the replay upload problems......

[jflores]

I have 360 and have never seen it as well. And I am very glad I haven't.

[JakeHK]

Dumb question:

Is the shot aiming always camera relative or is it always left is left, right is right, down is low etc.

LIke tele cam attacking to the right, is Up, left post, or is left, left post?,

[StayingPower]

I don't get it, I'd been playing friendlies on Professional and been having even games, sometimes it'd be easy and sometimes hard. Then I started a MM and won my first two games 4-0, gotta bump it up to WC now.

[Jedimaster1]

Btw, what camera are you all using for BAP online? I find the 'pro' camera too chaotic. So I am open to suggestions.

[k_19]

Dumb question:

Is the shot aiming always camera relative or is it always left is left, right is right, down is low etc.

LIke tele cam attacking to the right, is Up, left post, or is left, left post?,

Depends on which shooting mode you are using. If you are using assisted, yes, what you said will be suffice enough to aim at that side. However, if you do that in Semi or Manual, lets say you aim directly up when you are free through on goal at the center of the field, going from left to right... your shot will be NOWHERE close. In semi/manual, you will need to aim respective to where your position in the field is and where you are facing. If you are at center of the field, you will need to aim more up/right, or down/left, and in a precise manner.

But yes, the general direction will be camera relative.

[SPMC]

online, is the host user the home side?
everytime i go quick rank, i'm always the home side.
i hate it, because i play better as the away team. lol

if so, does it mean i have the better connection?

[Tim7]

Btw, what camera are you all using for BAP online? I find the 'pro' camera too chaotic. So I am open to suggestions.
Tele is the way to go :)).

online, is the host user the home side?
No one is the host as such, as the EA Servers are the host I believe.

[matt1288]

Exactly, People always argue "YOUR LAGGING" when really even if I or the opponent were lagging it wouldn't affect anything. If someones connection was bad, they would just be disconnected from the game.

[SPMC]

then 'lag switches' would be useless.

but 4 out of 5, i'm always the home side.

[matherto]

So I've decided to restart my Be a Pro. Was starring for United and England but I though nah sack it.

Restarted and chose Tranmere seen as they're fairly local (CB will be happy).

Anyone noticed how despite having the same stats, you're player is always worse at everything if you play for a lower league side?

My finishing is exactly the same at the moment as it was when I left off my previous one, and I can't hit a barn door at the moment. The keepers are fucking unhuman in the lower leagues for some reason.

[DagsJT]

What level are you playing at? I played on Pro, as a CAM for Tranmere, semi shooting, and I had no problems whatsoever with the goalies.

My stats were worse at the start but once you add your experience points on, you become MILES better than the other players.

[Andreas]

Question: exactly how does the online matches work? Is there a server which both players connect to, and the server determines the lag, stutter etc.? Or will players connections mean something? So if I'm having a very good connection, but I play a low connection opponent, will the game also lag for me?

[matt1288]

If that person has a poor connection the chances are he'll be disconnected from the game. I'm not sure about the lag, however, from my experience you'll just get disconnected.

[Nick Cave]

Is there any update on the patch?...

[DagsJT]

Nothing yet :((

[Professor Nutmeg]

Sorry, a patch that does what?

[Nick Cave]

Mr Rutter has said some bugs and bits were/are going to be sorted with a patch. i don't know where the link is, I tried to find it in the EA forum...

[Professor Nutmeg]

Thanks.

Is there anyway of practising FKs with a wall, in the arena, or am i being too hopeful? :)

[Placebo]

No.

[matherto]

So my mates PS3 has stopped recognising that FIFA is in.

And it's only FIFA as all his other games, and DVD's work, the PS3 registers that they're in the disc tray.

He says it's not scratched, and BR discs aren't supposed to scratch anyway, so it can't be that.

Any thoughts?

[gameklip]

this always happens with fifa's. every fifa game gives me the "disc is dirty" error. i'm guessing EA print onto some cheap as shit DVDs.

anyways, just went online a while and went on a streak with man city. man city are awesome in the game. wow.

i beat someone 6-1 just now and 3-1 in the game before. jo scored with backheel flicks and a sliding shots off the bar.

i scored a free kick with elano too.

in one game i got a cheap goal by mistake when his keeper kicked it into me on a kickout. i ran the ball into my own net immediately after. i felt guilty. took me till the last minute to score the winner though!!! that would have been embarrassing.

[kobashi]

FIFA 10v10 vs. PES Legends
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=264828

[Androctonvs]

thanks for the link, koba

[proxi]

in one game i got a cheap goal by mistake when his keeper kicked it into me on a kickout. i ran the ball into my own net immediately after. i felt guilty. took me till the last minute to score the winner though!!! that would have been embarrassing.
:SAL: The game needs more players like this man.

[Dusse]

Does anyone (Placebo?) know if it's possible to become a researcher for FIFA? The Swedish league could be a lot better scouted then it is right know (simple things like position, best foot etc) and I'd like to help them for FIFA10. Also, does the researchers create the players apperences?

[Chris Davies]

Yes Dusse, click HERE (http://159.153.197.145/TalentScout/TalentScout/index.aspx) to apply.

[Disqo]

I must say the live season is not as bad as I thought it would be, they semm to be accurate with the form

[Rob92]

I've applied as a Data Reviewer, the current Coventry data editor is an idiot as I have said a few times before - they obviously don't watch us play with the ratings half of the players have...

I just hope I can help FIFA become more realistic for me in the future by having my team's player attributes being accurate.

[Shazam!]

Can you also sort out why Robbie Keane hits EVERY shot with his right foot?

[tobi]

He hardly shoots with his left foot though.

[Tim7]

What would I apply for out of those to tell EA that Charlton have white fonts on the home kit and our stadium is not the fucking de las artes?

[Chris Davies]

Bear in mind Tim you don't apply to fix one thing, you apply to work on their database. They won't be very happy if you join and then piss off. You even get paid for some of the jobs listed there.

[Disqo]

What would I apply for out of those to tell EA that Charlton have white fonts on the home kit and our stadium is not the fucking de las artes?

LOL, that stadium haunts my dreams

[Tim7]

Bear in mind Tim you don't apply to fix one thing, you apply to work on their database. They won't be very happy if you join and then piss off. You even get paid for some of the jobs listed there.
Yeah I know, I won't really be applying. Just pissed off with the lack of knowledge for 2nd Tier English teams.

[Placebo]

Does anyone (Placebo?) know if it's possible to become a researcher for FIFA? The Swedish league could be a lot better scouted then it is right know (simple things like position, best foot etc) and I'd like to help them for FIFA10. Also, does the researchers create the players apperences?

One of my contacts at EA did mention they need help with the Swedish leagues as they're not happy with the current standard of data provision.

As for appearances, the data editors make those, reviewers leave feedback which an editor may or may not choose to use.

[matt1288]

Can anyone give me a hand, how exactly can i score a bicycle kick? or should I use a certain team and etc? would be helpful.

[Placebo]

I always scored mine in the past with Crouch, I'd say cross from deep curling back towards the penalty area so the ball goes behind your striker.......

Here's one of mine with Crouch for England:

LiveLeak.com - Overhead kick by Crouch Euro 2008 Xbox 360 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=667_1224754518)

[matt1288]

Thanks for uploading that, helps a lot. I think I will try being Man United to do it because I heard Berbatov can sneak them in easily.

Thanks again Placebo. :)

[Placebo]

No worries :)

[Shazam!]

I scored one with Torres, and his face caved in. Literally. I mean, all the graphics for his face messed up so it looked like his head had caved in.

[proxi]

That's strange if it's a regular bug. Carlos Tevez must have scored one too then without my knowledge.

[tobi]

I successfully started a Manager Mode with Roma last night and I have a question, am I missing something or is there no assist table?

[proxi]

Only way you can access assists info is by going to the Player Ratings screen (I think it's that one), which shows the top strikers, midfielders, defenders, keepers and overall. There's an assist column on these and you can choose to "sort" by assists, putting them in order of who has the most first.

[Chris Davies]

Just finished my first full Manager Mode season, I was really enjoying it half-way through but now I'm really disappointed.

December-time I was 18th, finding it very hard-going on World Class. I drew a team in League Two in the cup and they battered me, at which point I thought "sod this, I'm going onto Professional". Getting beaten by them I could take but getting hammered by them, no way. From that point on I won some, drew some and lost some, it seemed fair. But then I bought two players (a left-back, Andy Robinson, and a striker, Dele Adebola) and suddenly I was winning every game 3-0. But my star-rating had gone up to 2.5 and I was playing teams around 1.5 so I thought, okay, I'll consider that realistic.

Finished 5th, got into the playoffs, and I was eventually knocked out by this wonderful goal of the CPU's: CLICK ME (http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/1859916)

No motivation to play Manager Mode again now, absolutely gutted slogging through 46 matches (460 minutes or nearly 8 hours of playing) to end a season like that. And it's not much fun winning 3-0 or losing 3-0 every week anyway. My own fault for picking Tranmere, it's a lot more balanced when you're a Premier League team; I'll be giving the game a little bit of a break now though I think.

[Coopz]

Isn't that your fault for trying to kick the ball out quickly?

[Honome_WEC]

Finished 5th, got into the playoffs, and I was eventually knocked out by this wonderful goal of the CPU's: CLICK ME (http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/1859916)

:LOL:

That goal reminds me Fifa Soccer 94 for Mega Drive! We always tried that against the CPU when we were loosing!

But nowadays, an unforgiven bug!! If it happened to me on a playoff i would reset the video-game imediatelly :P

[Tim7]

:LMAO: lmfao class goal

[Rob92]

That would piss me off so much if that happened to me in an important match like in the playoffs. I always make sure now that there is nobody around the keeper for that to happen as I conceded a goal from it online once...

[Tim7]

Isn't that your fault for trying to kick the ball out quickly?
I've gotta agree with Coopz here, if you can see there is an attacker right in front of you, why did you kick the ball out?

[Bobo21]

I've gotta agree with Coopz here, if you can see there is an attacker right in front of you, why did you kick the ball out?

yup, first thing any right keeper will do once he's cradled the ball is have a proper look around to be sure no attacker is in sight before he even gets into position to hoof it out.
sorry mate but don't think you can really get upset about the game for that one :NO:

[football_fan]

i was playing fifa 2002 today with my mate... we were like why not? so, i brought out the ps2 found fifa 2002 and we started to play. OMG fifa has come a long was..
first match was arsenal vs man utd, great game lol...it was funny because when playing the game we were not expecting much from it really, you know graphics wise, skills, response obviously because it was a ps2 game...but it was a lot of fun, enjoyed it.

the whole power bar for passing is genius lol, and i then i remembered that the one-two's were mapped to the right analog stick it felt OK

then we had a second match brazil vs argentina, the same as trhe arsenal match but then we both remembered that we could do skills with R1 and combing this with Triangle which was then sprint lol, you could do some great simple skills.

OMG and i almost forgot that one of the shoulder buttons was for player runs, remember they used to have the yellow blur behind then when they made runs something like a super hero lol

but one thing that i want fifa to bring back that was in fifa 2002 was when you had a penalty and you were the penalty taker when you pressed (X), the kick changer ran off the spot and was replaced by another player.
this was amazing and even the commentator says "the taker looks like he has had a change of heart"....fifa should bring this one particular thing from fifa 2002 back loved it..what do you guys think? should they?


extra: penalty beginning cinematic and check out the goalie winning celebration at the end...memories lol
YouTube - Fifa 2002 Penalty Bra Arg (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fmFE12dIUhc&watch_response)

[jflores]

The great thing about this game is that it's just gonna keep getting better and better every year. EA still has lots of things they need to fix and have their work cut out for next year already. This is nothing but good news and good things to come for this franchise.

[ash]

YouTube - Fifa 2002 Penalty Bra Arg (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fmFE12dIUhc&watch_response)

The goalie celebration at the end :APPLAUD::APPLAUD::APPLAUD:

[football_fan]

The great thing about this game is that it's just gonna keep getting better and better every year. EA still has lots of things they need to fix and have their work cut out for next year already. This is nothing but good news and good things to come for this franchise.
agree:D

[Erik]

i was playing fifa 2002 today with my mate... we were like why not? so, i brought out the ps2 found fifa 2002 and we started to play. OMG fifa has come a long was..
first match was arsenal vs man utd, great game lol...it was funny because when playing the game we were not expecting much from it really, you know graphics wise, skills, response obviously because it was a ps2 game...but it was a lot of fun, enjoyed it.

the whole power bar for passing is genius lol, and i then i remembered that the one-two's were mapped to the right analog stick it felt OK

then we had a second match brazil vs argentina, the same as trhe arsenal match but then we both remembered that we could do skills with R1 and combing this with Triangle which was then sprint lol, you could do some great simple skills.

OMG and i almost forgot that one of the shoulder buttons was for player runs, remember they used to have the yellow blur behind then when they made runs something like a super hero lol

but one thing that i want fifa to bring back that was in fifa 2002 was when you had a penalty and you were the penalty taker when you pressed (X), the kick changer ran off the spot and was replaced by another player.
this was amazing and even the commentator says "the taker looks like he has had a change of heart"....fifa should bring this one particular thing from fifa 2002 back loved it..what do you guys think? should they?


extra: penalty beginning cinematic and check out the goalie winning celebration at the end...memories lol
YouTube - Fifa 2002 Penalty Bra Arg (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fmFE12dIUhc&watch_response)

Wow, the crowd looks better than most FIFA's after it... : )

Also funny is how when they score they walk towards the keeper giving him a staredown. When they miss they start sprinting back to the middle!

[Disqo]

Finished 5th, got into the playoffs, and I was eventually knocked out by this wonderful goal of the CPU's: CLICK ME (http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/1859916)


Im sorry but ahahahahahahahaha, that goal was class


YouTube - Fifa 2002 Penalty Bra Arg (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fmFE12dIUhc&watch_response)

LMAO @ Carlos missing then sprinting away at top speed, wow this series used to be crap

[Machines]

yup, first thing any right keeper will do once he's cradled the ball is have a proper look around to be sure no attacker is in sight before he even gets into position to hoof it out.
sorry mate but don't think you can really get upset about the game for that one :NO:

I have to agree, too. You kicked it right into the guy. I've made similar mistakes too because hitting square after the GK grabs the ball is almost second nature. You don't even think about it...until something like that happens.

[gomito#10]

have played about 20 games so far, maybe its just me, but its not all that different then 08 and euro. been playing on manual and its harder, for sure. But i dont know at this point, it seems like they tweaked little things but not really the core gameplay all that much(and yes it needed more then just tweaking). i will give it some more time

[Tim7]

The collision system alone is an incredible difference imo.

[Yana]

Im sorry but ahahahahahahahaha, that goal was class

Indeed. :LMAO: Bad mistake.

That vid of penaties is great, love the keepers dance at the end!! Ahhh the good old days, they looked great for the time.

[brunnoce]

The collision system alone is an incredible difference imo.

GK AI too imo...
and that was my biggest gripe...maybe evan my only REAL problem with fifa since 08.

[gomito#10]

true, those things are different, goalies are in fact much better, but collison system, hmm i will have to pay more attention to it, i havent noticed an incredible difference with it, per say.

[Trance_Allstar]

Also let's not forget headers aren't just a matter of luck anymore, but also requires timing, which means that once you get the hang of it you can really get some control over them.

[matt1288]

For some gay reason, I uploaded a goal which I thought was nice and it didn't work properly.
http://www.eafootballworld.com/en_GB/video/1880241

It cuts of the shot, it ends before he shoots the goal! Does anyone know how to fix this?

[Placebo]

true, those things are different, goalies are in fact much better, but collison system, hmm i will have to pay more attention to it, i havent noticed an incredible difference with it, per say.

If you haven't noticed the collision system after 20 matches then you seriously need to stop doing drugs, it's the most noticeable improvement in Fif09 by far.

[Shearer_God]

For some gay reason, I uploaded a goal which I thought was nice and it didn't work properly.
http://www.eafootballworld.com/en_GB/video/1880241

It cuts of the shot, it ends before he shoots the goal! Does anyone know how to fix this?
You're only allowed to have the replay last 12 seconds.

[matt1288]

So is there anyway to make it that time? because I have no idea how to shorten it. Or is there a way to choose when the video starts / ends ?

[Rob92]

The replay uploads from where it is when you press Y, so you could shorten it by starting it later. Also, you could have it in normal speed instead of slo-mo to make it shorter too.

If you haven't noticed the collision system after 20 matches then you seriously need to stop doing drugs, it's the most noticeable improvement in Fif09 by far.Agreed, it is a great improvement - some people think it's just for looks with the player falling/stumbling animations looking more realistic, but it's far from just that.
It plays a big role in the outcome of aerial challenges, tackles and jostles, and they are fairly important parts of the gameplay.

[gomito#10]

If you haven't noticed the collision system after 20 matches then you seriously need to stop doing drugs, it's the most noticeable improvement in Fif09 by far.

no way, then the game would really disapoint me, LOL, ok i have noticed the collision system, but i guess what i meant is that if they didnt tweak that or fix that, how many people would have been complaining about it... it was a nice touch and adds to the realism, but the response issues are still there. and again, i will harp on this over and over again, players still seems very static and all very similiar in traits and abilities. ANd how the fuck do you guys cross?

[matt1288]

I had the issue with crossing before, but I found if you take your time and slow down before crossing they are more effective.

I also tried a few games of manual today (been playing semi), I really like it but I need to practice my crossing or I'm going to do terribly. I love the auto-switching being totally free, it's much easier for defending.

[Placebo]

ANd how the fuck do you guys cross?

We discussed crossing in some depth a few days ago, try searching for "cross" or "crossing".

[brunnoce]

no way, then the game would really disapoint me, LOL, ok i have noticed the collision system, but i guess what i meant is that if they didnt tweak that or fix that, how many people would have been complaining about it... it was a nice touch and adds to the realism, but the response issues are still there. and again, i will harp on this over and over again, players still seems very static and all very similiar in traits and abilities. ANd how the fuck do you guys cross?


i respect your opinion, but i disagree completly...
this is something that for me has improved a lot from last year...

[SPMC]

brunnoce,
are you still playing your french version? is their a s. american one?

[Abhishek]

Loving this game on multiplayer, but the lack of individuality still annoys the hell out of me.

[SPMC]

good to see you here, Abhishek.

[pepper63]

If you haven't noticed the collision system after 20 matches then you seriously need to stop doing drugs, it's the most noticeable improvement in Fif09 by far.He gets sent off nearly every online game.;)

[Nick Cave]

Still jacked off, halfway through my second season and still no injuries, I have had two lasting one week each... Pah!! sort it out EA surely that does not take a whole year too....

[Nick Cave]

I take it there is still no news on the patch...

[gomito#10]

i take back some of the things i said, i do see better individuality then last year, and the collision system is starting to show its beauty. i still havent played multiplayer, looking forward to that. THe MM AI seems much improved, im hacing problems with manual passing to my strikers and my midfielders going right to left, passing up and down or vertically between my players is fine, but when the CM is checking back to the cb i have a hard time giving him an accurate pass, any ideas?

[WILDSTER180774]

i totally disagree with comments about fifa09 still not having player individuality. Dont tell me Walcott plays the same as Nasri. Or that Diaby and Fabregas are the same. Adebayor is again very different from Van Persie. Using Arsenal just as an example of course as thats the team i am most familiar with. I was playing with my brother last night as A.Villa and our cb's were getting totally dominated in the air so we brought on Zat Knight and we were able to combat the aerial threat more effectively.

[WILDSTER180774]

I have heard there is a way to invite your mates directly into a 10vs10 bap game. How is this possible. I would love my brother to join me in the same team. Not including the fifa clubs mode!

[mjsmith2k]

i totally disagree with comments about fifa09 still not having player individuality. Dont tell me Walcott plays the same as Nasri. Or that Diaby and Fabregas are the same. Adebayor is again very different from Van Persie. Using Arsenal just as an example of course as thats the team i am most familiar with. I was playing with my brother last night as A.Villa and our cb's were getting totally dominated in the air so we brought on Zat Knight and we were able to combat the aerial threat more effectively.

Yeah that is true but try a lower league team and try and tell the difference between players in League 1 and players in the Championship.

[WILDSTER180774]

Yeah that is true but try a lower league team and try and tell the difference between players in League 1 and players in the Championship.

you are correct there. Perhaps that is something that EA can work on for Fifa10. But certainly for the top teams/divisions it is there.

[Chris Davies]

Without trying to sound like a fanboy (I'm not, lots of things are grating with me, for example playing in League One you play in the same stadium week in week out and it's beyond a joke now)... But I do notice a difference between League One and Championship. The main two being, Championship strikers can score (without you having to slow down and place it), and Championship defenders can tackle (without cracking the opponent's ankle and getting a card).

Got to say though I can understand why originally FIFA on next-gen only had the Premier League, I find it boring playing as the team I support because every stadium is the same bar one or two, the stadium they've given to my team is nothing like our stadium, and the impact that the stats have on the gameplay make it frustrating (obviously I know it's supposed to, but people talk about the fun factor and it's not as fun). You play as Liverpool afterwards and the reaction times and the little flicks and tricks blow you away.

[WILDSTER180774]

what has happened to our EVOWEB club team? Has it folded due to Rad's transfer to PES? Everytime i go into the dressing room there is nobody there. Wasnt on much in the past week due to working late shifts, and nights is when i can basically play the game as the wife goes to bed early.

[Chris Davies]

Ask in the club thread and you might get an answer ;)

[WILDSTER180774]

Without trying to sound like a fanboy (I'm not, lots of things are grating with me, for example playing in League One you play in the same stadium week in week out and it's beyond a joke now)... But I do notice a difference between League One and Championship. The main two being, Championship strikers can score (without you having to slow down and place it), and Championship defenders can tackle (without cracking the opponent's ankle and getting a card).

Got to say though I can understand why originally FIFA on next-gen only had the Premier League, I find it boring playing as the team I support because every stadium is the same bar one or two, the stadium they've given to my team is nothing like our stadium, and the impact that the stats have on the gameplay make it frustrating (obviously I know it's supposed to, but people talk about the fun factor and it's not as fun). You play as Liverpool afterwards and the reaction times and the little flicks and tricks blow you away.

i thought you could change the default stadia for clubs. Obviously not. Not a big thing for EA to include. This game has a lot of weird things like that not in the game. Like the league creation thing where you cant play each team twice but 3,5,7 times. How weird is that?

[WILDSTER180774]

Ask in the club thread and you might get an answer ;)

good thinking? mind you dont think anyones posted in there for such a long time. Will try now though.

[Nick Cave]

They seriously need to work on the MM side of the game but you know while they have a separate management title nothing is really going to change...

[WILDSTER180774]

Nick....can you link me to the clubs thread. Think i am looking in the wrong place. The ps3 bap sign up thread has been closed. cheers if you can.

[TikTikTikTikTik]

Im wondering how they can get the stats to work for the lower leagues tbh, I always play with Liverpool so I notice them and the difference with opponants however with the stats having less difference for lower leagues it's tough to get the individuality imo. They could exagerate it per match/league. So for league games stats over so many points get an extra 10 or so to make the difference visible/noticable and for cup matches between higher teams they can set it back to the original again.

Maybe they need to introduce a fake calculation to get the difference going, as atm even if the stats are accurate, you'll never get the individuality to work. Im sure PES used/uses something like this to make really good players so much stronger then good players. Unless they have some backdoor stats to set up the player, but if thats the case getting EA to do all the lower leagues aswell is a huge task.

Maybe they should add traits/characters to players to better define their qualities. Maybe some kind of stereotype that sums up the type of player (wing magician, tough defender, Cultured defender, speeddemon, targetman, midfield general, midfield maistro, etc). And this description would then be the "exageration" factor for the stats allowing a winger in his division to be just that extra bit more technical to make a noticable difference.

[Nick Cave]

Nick....can you link me to the clubs thread. Think i am looking in the wrong place. The ps3 bap sign up thread has been closed. cheers if you can.


http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=49814 ;)

[WILDSTER180774]

http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=49814 ;)

thank you

[paddyknight]

been playing 2 on 2 on one console with mates, had been playing 1 on 1 and had been enjoying it but after literally 3 games had no desire to play again. We absolutely love 2 on 2,its incredible, you can play proper, passing football, and when you control a spare player the computer can actually deal with it, rather than thinking, 'shit! he's gone off his rails!' So satisfying, really really enjoy it. This game has come so far. Only issue is the ball weight on long range shots seems quite odd, seems to rise at the end, ridiculously high, and have odd speed.

oh well, just adapt! :D

[WILDSTER180774]

been playing 2 on 2 on one console with mates, had been playing 1 on 1 and had been enjoying it but after literally 3 games had no desire to play again. We absolutely love 2 on 2,its incredible, you can play proper, passing football, and when you control a spare player the computer can actually deal with it, rather than thinking, 'shit! he's gone off his rails!' So satisfying, really really enjoy it. This game has come so far. Only issue is the ball weight on long range shots seems quite odd, seems to rise at the end, ridiculously high, and have odd speed.

oh well, just adapt! :D

just remember shooting is sensitive. Like you said u have to adapt. I did.

[matt1288]

I played my first game today online with MANUAL PASSING and I won 3-1, it was fun and it's great when you can create your own creative passes. And I can also pass the same as a through ball. I've tried manual crossing but I find it impossible, and I've made auto-switching 0%.

[Achillias]

Playing managermode is boring and not competitive at all, notting beats the online experience against other humans.

[Machines]

Playing managermode is boring and not competitive at all, notting beats the online experience against other humans.

I actually enjoy the Manager Mode quite a bit. I still prefer playing against someone else on the same console, but MM isn't boring to me at all.

[s33k3rgr]

Today i got my ps3 (psn ID: s33k3rgr), so within a little time space i will be able to play you ranked or unranked matches.And i say in a "little time space" because i am still learning the game.So i got some questions.
1). Is there any channel or room that i can find players from my country (i am greek)? Is there any lag when playing with people from other countries?I would be interested in having Unranked matches for my start...
2). Are there any players who play all the way manual passing/crossing etc?.Ive noticed that manual is the right way to play the game except maybe short passing to semi-auto
3). Do i need to do any settings on my router or it will be work automatically with Upnp enabled??
I am sure i will have more questions in the future as i havent played the 08 game. I am recently converted from pro-evo.

[matt1288]

1) Unfortunately not, you could attempt finding a Greek person in the public lobbies, they have rooms such as "Central Europe 1" and etc.

2) Yes there are many players who play fully or semi manual. There is a thread HERE (http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=50158) that has people playing it like that, which I'm sure you can join that league, or invite people from there.

[Achillias]

1.) Yes there is a lobby named my country.

2.) There are a few online but not ranked i guess.

3.) Depends on you're ISP.

4.) FIFA pwns.

[Shazam!]

I've made auto-switching 0%.That was the first thing I did. I'm no gaming whizz (still have most things on assisted), but auto-switching is my ultimate no-no.

[Yana]

Same here, auto switching is really annoying, it kinda makes you confused as to who you are actually controlling sometimes.

[Matt10]

So what is the final consensus?

World Class - assisted all? Professional - Manual all except shooting and crossing? or Semi Pro - assisted all?

Please help. I am just getting so annoyed with World Class - the CPU has over 20 shots per game all on target.

[k_19]

So what is the final consensus?

World Class - assisted all? Professional - Manual all except shooting and crossing? or Semi Pro - assisted all?

Please help. I am just getting so annoyed with World Class - the CPU has over 20 shots per game all on target.

Find my posts from a few pages ago on how to defend effectively on World Class. Hopefully it will help you. CPU gets maybe 7-8 shots a game on me, rarely more than 10.

[Matt10]

Find my posts from a few pages ago on how to defend effectively on World Class. Hopefully it will help you. CPU gets maybe 7-8 shots a game on me, rarely more than 10.

I have it saved as a notepad - it was such a well done post. Can you go into further detail on when to press the pressure button? Do you hold it on for long, or do you just tap it?

Also - would you suggest switching to semi-passing (instead of manual) for world class?

Thanks again.

[k_19]

I have it saved as a notepad - it was such a well done post. Can you go into further detail on when to press the pressure button? Do you hold it on for long, or do you just tap it?

Also - would you suggest switching to semi-passing (instead of manual) for world class?

Thanks again.

I'm glad that you found it useful. :)

Basically, you will want to use the teammate pressure button to close off enough space in front of the ballcarrier for him to hesitate with the ball. That is when you can use one of the men to tackle to possibly dispossess him. I usually use the defender I am controlling to close off the space, the use the pressure button for the AI teammate to tackle the ball (since the AI is more effective in dispossessing the ball than user controller player in World Class). Don't forget that you'll mostly want to use your forwards or wingers to be the second pressure man, so that you still have the spaces behind you covered by the midfielders/defenders. Your objective is to cover much space in your half as possible, since CPU on WC likes to make runs up forward. If you give them room they will make you pay for it.

DO NOT mash on the pressure button either, though. That will just create more room for CPU to exploit with one of their perfect passes. Make sure you have all the spaces in the field well covered THEN pressure accordingly. Patience is key, as it can be frustrating CPU having so much possession sometimes and you WILL be tempted to pressure constantly. Do not fall into this trap; be patient, and stick to your game plan.

I personally use Semi for both passing and shooting, since it's just less frustrating that way. Against humans, it's more fun to go all manual since both sides will make plenty of mistakes, but on World Class or higher it is just not fun or seem fair when you make all the mistakes and CPU does not make any. Definitely not Auto, though, it'll make things too easy.

[Honome_WEC]

So what is the final consensus?

World Class - assisted all? Professional - Manual all except shooting and crossing? or Semi Pro - assisted all?

Please help. I am just getting so annoyed with World Class - the CPU has over 20 shots per game all on target.

I tried Professional on all manual and find that too easy. So i tried in World Class all manual and was too hard! hehehehe

So now i play in World Class in all manual except pass and shooting semi. Now the game is difficult, but very pleasure. I put pass on semi because i still have the feeling that i can only pass on 8 direction and some passes goes totally messed because of that. But i really likes the manual crossing, it´s a little hard to learn but makes the game much more realistic to play, it´s not simply press the button from anywhere to put the ball into the box.

[gomito#10]

guys we were playing clubs last night, but when the game would start and go to the screen where you pick positions, my bro got kicked out and hte game ended, any ideas on what router settings he should use, or anything like that, it happend everytime

[Honome_WEC]

guys we were playing clubs last night, but when the game would start and go to the screen where you pick positions, my bro got kicked out and hte game ended, any ideas on what router settings he should use, or anything like that, it happend everytime


is his NAT working fine with the 360? maybe he can opens a port and set it on the 360. or maybe he have firewall settings blocking it...

[Erik]

I have a question for all MM players who have played through a season or two so far.

I am 3/4 the way through my first MM season playing as Liverpool and I have had the setting on overcast just about the entire season to see if I could get some weather effects. So far... a big fat NOTHING.

I am sorry if this has been posted here before, but has anyone had ANY weather in MM? I hate to say it, but I am getting bored of MM already as it seems like the exact same thing as last years.

Thanks

[ash]

Playing with non-elite teams is the way to go online! It is just sooo much fun. Villa, Spurs, Popmy, Everton, Villareal, Marseille etc.


I'm pretty shit online, I lose more than I win, it was the opposite on FIFA08.

[Nick Cave]

I seriously need a snap my own players leg in the tunnel button, why oh why can EA not sort the damn injury thing out, the MM has soo many thing's that could be done very simply to make it so much more interesting and better...

[YoungGun_UK]

I seriously need a snap my own players leg in the tunnel button, why oh why can EA not sort the damn injury thing out, the MM has soo many thing's that could be done very simply to make it so much more interesting and better...

Funny that, I started one with United and in my opening weeks had Berba,Nani and Giggs all out for a while :((

[pepper63]

why no Russian prem league in fifa 09?

[nerf]

has anyone had ANY weather in MM?
No (I've finished two seasons). It seems you can choose to either have Day (sunny) all the time or Overcast (cloudy, dry) all the time, depending on what you have set in your Exhibition game settings.

I guess you could set up a Day exhibition game, then load your MM and play the first few weeks of the season in the sun, then go back to Overcast for most of the season, then switch back to Day for the last few weeks as summer returns.

It's strange because you get weather in BAP mode.

[Gunners`]

when EA staff gonna get the fix patch out :/ am waitting

[Erik]

No (I've finished two seasons). It seems you can choose to either have Day (sunny) all the time or Overcast (cloudy, dry) all the time, depending on what you have set in your Exhibition game settings.

I guess you could set up a Day exhibition game, then load your MM and play the first few weeks of the season in the sun, then go back to Overcast for most of the season, then switch back to Day for the last few weeks as summer returns.

It's strange because you get weather in BAP mode.

This much I know - but in doing the setting for overcast, did you ever see rain?

[proxi]

Funny that, I started one with United and in my opening weeks had Berba,Nani and Giggs all out for a while :((
It's a shame these kind of multiple injury fiascos are so rare. The nearest thing I've had is Lennon & Modric being out for 3 games in a row at the same time. EA need to employ people like Nick and I to enforce to some gritty, gruesome injuries.

[SJP76]

I played some guy last night who quit on me in the last minute when I was 2 - 1 up. Why do people do this? I didn't get the result so that's probably why but why wouldn't I have got the result??

I'm not somebody who really gives a shit about my record but was just wondering. I was going to message him to call him a **** but refrained from doing so.

[jonneymendoza]

I played some guy last night who quit on me in the last minute when I was 2 - 1 up. Why do people do this? I didn't get the result so that's probably why but why wouldn't I have got the result??

I'm not somebody who really gives a shit about my record but was just wondering. I was going to message him to call him a **** but refrained from doing so.
i hate that too. i dont think i have EVER quit a game of footy online. well not intentionaly anyway. even if im getting beaten down badly i still play to the end. whenever im 3:0 by half time, 2nd half never gets played because the person always quits!

never had that problem back in the PES06 days on the pc

[nerf]

This much I know - but in doing the setting for overcast, did you ever see rain?
Nope, no rain or snow.

[BillyBoy]

How do I create a 2v2 online match session?

[WILDSTER180774]

rain can only be seen in cut scenes.

[jambotommy]

I played some guy last night who quit on me in the last minute when I was 2 - 1 up. Why do people do this? I didn't get the result so that's probably why but why wouldn't I have got the result??

I'm not somebody who really gives a shit about my record but was just wondering. I was going to message him to call him a **** but refrained from doing so.

that, imo, is the biggest pain in the arse about this game.

if you get quit on, the game simply never happened/existed.

fucking sort this eeee aaaa.

even peshitty 2009 gives you a 3-0 if you are quit on...it takes away the superb feeling when beating some little man utd asshole, as you know the plug is gonna be pulled.

Are EA even aware of this..maybe placebo knows???

:RANT::BLINK::Y1

[Ogami]

that, imo, is the biggest pain in the arse about this game.

if you get quit on, the game simply never happened/existed.

fucking sort this eeee aaaa.

even peshitty 2009 gives you a 3-0 if you are quit on...it takes away the superb feeling when beating some little man utd asshole, as you know the plug is gonna be pulled.

Are EA even aware of this..maybe placebo knows???

:RANT::BLINK::Y1
That's not true. You automatically get a 3-0 victory whenever someone quits on you.

You just need to wait a few seconds before going to your profile (where you can check you record).

[andish2001]

rain can only be seen in cut scenes.

THIS is the biggest problem with this game :RANT: lol

[machinaesupremacy]

You're all wrong. The biggest problem is that you are basically forced to play assisted unless you know the person you are playing against.

This will be changed next year though, once my campaign gets underway.

[liger05]

Went to my barbershop today and couldnt believe the guys in there were playing Fifa 09. 2 weeks ago I asked them about fifa and they said they didnt mind it but were waiting for Pro. 2 weeks later and they aint impressed with Pro and think Fifa is the real deal. Trust me these guys loved PES so things really are changing for the better when they appreciate what EA is doing with Fifa.

Oh and they cant play 2 player games on the PS3 Fifa 09. It freezes everytime.

[Chris Davies]

I played some guy last night who quit on me in the last minute when I was 2 - 1 up. Why do people do this? I didn't get the result so that's probably why but why wouldn't I have got the result??

I'm not somebody who really gives a shit about my record but was just wondering. I was going to message him to call him a **** but refrained from doing so.
My dad's over 60 and you should see the message some little snotball left him after beating him 5-0. Obviously just a kid but he was using plenty of adult words. These kids should be seperated from the rest of us online.

Reminds me of the whole Russell Brand/Jonathan Ross/Andrew Sachs thing actually. What happened to having respect for your elders...

[imothop]

Sometimes i love this game and sometimes i hate it. Just lost a Cup match with Bayern against Liverpool 0-1 after hitting the post 4 times (3 times i was shooting from inside the box). At the End i got 25 shoots (16 on goal) and Liverpool got 6 shoots (1 on goal). I even missed a penalty with Ribery. Im out of the Cup now and it is really frustrating.

Sometimes it feels like you are not allowed to win. Sometimes it feels like this game is cheating and i really hate it.

[kobashi]

You're all wrong. The biggest problem is that you are basically forced to play assisted unless you know the person you are playing against.

This will be changed next year though, once my campaign gets underway.

Let me get this right, so when you select quick ranked/unranked match the game will have assisted controls. So your control setup before the game gets totally ignored even if you have it on semi/manual for example?

[Ogami]

Went to my barbershop today and couldnt believe the guys in there were playing Fifa 09. 2 weeks ago I asked them about fifa and they said they didnt mind it but were waiting for Pro. 2 weeks later and they aint impressed with Pro and think Fifa is the real deal. Trust me these guys loved PES so things really are changing for the better when they appreciate what EA is doing with Fifa.

Oh and they cant play 2 player games on the PS3 Fifa 09. It freezes everytime.
Happens to me as well. I think it's because of the Adidas thing. I've found a solution on the 360. You need to log off from your main account and log in a new one where there is no FIFA 09 save file.

I hope they'll fix this with a patch.

[K-LoO]

hi mates! do you have some news about MM re numbering? it sucks!!

[Rob92]

Let me get this right, so when you select quick ranked/unranked match the game will have assisted controls. So your control setup before the game gets totally ignored even if you have it on semi/manual for example?I think he means that if you play on semi/manual you will have to switch to assisted yourself to stand a chance against these people, because assisted passes/shots are so perfect. That's why I don't play ranked matches, your ranking on a video game means absolutely nothing yet some people take it so seriously.

[k_19]

Slight annoyance I have found in regards to defending corners...

I've found that when I'm defending a corner or set piece, there are absolute mismatches in the box. For example, for some unexplainable reason, Evra would be on Torres and Neville will be on Babel, and ALWAYS in the center of the box. Those two should ideally be guarding at the posts... who's at the posts you ask? Ferdinand or Vidic... WTF? In real football it's always typically the shortest guys who guard the posts, since they wouldn't be good in the air in te first place. But in this game, the biggest guys guard the posts, making them useless. Every time they get a corner I have to frantically switch players to those guys to bring them out of the post area and mark the appropriate man. I've tried man marking but it doesn't really make a difference in that regard.

I've also noticed in general that CPU loves to create mismatches in the box and try to head the ball in. I'm selling Neville and Evra because of this, since they're helpless in strength and power... I'd recommend to people to get the strongest, and most efficient defender in the air for your team in MM, so that you don't get headers scored on you over and over again.

[jambotommy]

That's not true. You automatically get a 3-0 victory whenever someone quits on you.

You just need to wait a few seconds before going to your profile (where you can check you record).

Not on my 360 and many mates of mines 360.

Only shows the game before on mine...even up to days later, let alone a few seconds.

Thanks for the reply though Ogami, its appreciated.

:))

[kobashi]

I think he means that if you play on semi/manual you will have to switch to assisted yourself to stand a chance against these people, because assisted passes/shots are so perfect. That's why I don't play ranked matches, your ranking on a video game means absolutely nothing yet some people take it so seriously.

Yeah I know waht your saying. Playing against these people is BS!

Funny story today, went to the Eurogamer Expo today. Loads of Fifa 09 setups on the PS3. First of all I cannot play with the PS3 pad, them analogue sticks are just too loose for me.

Anyway I stepped up to play some guy. He had assist on everything apart from long passes and crossing. I then went to control setup and switched my control to semi/manual. He saw this and I went back into control setup, I thought for a moment. "damn this is kinda player I like, he is gonna take off assists after seeing my setup".

Boy was I wrong, he then changed everything to assistant. I couldnt believe it. Lost 2-0 so I was pretty pissed off!!

Oh and Famitsu Xbox in Japan has reviewed FIFA 09.. FIFA 09 (EA): 9, 8, 9, 7 - (33/40)

[mjsmith2k]

Changed my settings on the game today.

I was getting really bored with the same sort of boring build-ups in matches. However, I absolutely LOVE it now. Have it on 'Broadcast' cam zoomed in a bit. All settings to manual excluding shooting which is on semi. It feels incredible. On Tele I always felt like nothing more than a spectator and it felt a little slow and sluggish for me. On the whole the pace is perfect now and I feel more in tune with the game. Manual settings on passing/crossing/through balls feels instinctive and realistic.

Right I'm going back to play some more.

[Shearer_God]

What difficulty level, mjsmith?

[mjsmith2k]

I have it on World Class, although I had to get used to it on Professional and build up to it. Manual passing is really hard.

[gameklip]

new addidas live season just came out! spurs got some great improvements!!

jenas should be higher though.

not sure if it includes tonights performance though...

[Tim7]

No it won't have included any of last nights or Tuesday nights match
(gameklip's spoiler and this spoiler are about last nights results)

Semi shooting is actually awesome. When I first played the game and went straight on semi, I found it extremely hard to control my shots, as the shooting on FIFA09 has had a complete overhaul from 08, so going back to assisted for the first 3 weeks let me get used to it and now I've gone back to semi, it really is awesome. So much more realistic and you have to think a bit more about your aiming and shooting.

:)).

[Chris Davies]

Had a bug last night, twice in one match (offline, Be A Pro Seasons, two of us against the CPU). The referee played the advantage after a Rooney tackle on someone, then as the play continued I was hacked down by Vidic. The referee called over Rooney and gave him a "second yellow card" - it came up as a yellow followed by a red and the commentator was going bonkers about it, but he hadn't been booked previously. Then he gave a yellow card to Vidic. So I paused the game to see the match stats, and Rooney wasn't even mentioned in the card list. After unpausing he was still in the match.

Exact same thing happened after half time but to us, one of our players was supposedly given a second yellow card after the referee playing the advantage and pulling play back, but it definitely wasn't a second yellow, and he wasn't sent off either.

Very very odd!

[tobi]

Thats happened in some Club games that I've played in.

[Ozkar]

Had a bug last night, twice in one match (offline, Be A Pro Seasons, two of us against the CPU). The referee played the advantage after a Rooney tackle on someone, then as the play continued I was hacked down by Vidic. The referee called over Rooney and gave him a "second yellow card" - it came up as a yellow followed by a red and the commentator was going bonkers about it, but he hadn't been booked previously. Then he gave a yellow card to Vidic. So I paused the game to see the match stats, and Rooney wasn't even mentioned in the card list. After unpausing he was still in the match.

Exact same thing happened after half time but to us, one of our players was supposedly given a second yellow card after the referee playing the advantage and pulling play back, but it definitely wasn't a second yellow, and he wasn't sent off either.

Very very odd!

That has happened to me 4 or 5 times. Very annoying.

[liger05]

I wish EA would sort out the non stop pressing people deploy. Its ridiculous that people can just keep pressing non stop without getting tired. At Eurogamer every game I watched of multiplayer Fifa everyone was using that tactic. You cant even pass the ball out from goal kicks.

[iluvnineties]

Guys, what camera type do you all use. I always preferred regular tele cam with default zoom/height settings but man after I tried broadcast cam with slight zoom and lowest height the game feels so much better. Even the gameplay feels better.

[kobashi]

Guys, what camera type do you all use. I always preferred regular tele cam with default zoom/height settings but man after I tried broadcast cam with slight zoom and lowest height the game feels so much better. Even the gameplay feels better.

I am gonna try broadcast tonight. Saw one TV at Eurogamer expo on broadcast and it looked real nice!

[proxi]

If you have a player on a yellow card and they've just done a reckless tackle and you know they'll get their second yellow, tapping to skip the cut-scene blocks the sending-off. I haven't used this intentionally, I've merely wanted to get on with the game, but noticed it and tested it out a few times.

[iluvnineties]

Question: is there handball in FIFA 09 ?

[Rob92]

Question: is there handball in FIFA 09 ?No

[mjsmith2k]

Guys, what camera type do you all use. I always preferred regular tele cam with default zoom/height settings but man after I tried broadcast cam with slight zoom and lowest height the game feels so much better. Even the gameplay feels better.

Totally agree mate. Dare I say it, you feel more in tune with action like in PES. For me broadcast zoomed in is the way to go. Unless you like Tele Zoomed in which is similar without the camera panning.

[iluvnineties]

^ Yes, another great post. All real time aired footie matches use cam with a tilt. Tele cam is fine and all but it gives you that unrealistic, unlike tv feeling. Do you guys all remember in PES/WE Broadcasting 3 cam. Now, that was one of my fav. type. If you're running near a throw in line, the cam would totally zoom and focus on your player - total realism.

[iluvnineties]

No

That sucks. Handballs are a must IMO. It just adds a lot of realism to the game.

[Rob92]

I disagree, you shouldn't be punished for something you have no control over - there's no button to make your player intentionally handle the ball or one to try and move the hands out of the way, meaning a handball would not be your fault. Giving away penalties or dangerous free kicks which result in goals through them would be the most frustrating thing possible in a football game.

[proxi]

I agree Rob it was insanely annoying in the last Pro Evo I properly played, I think PES6? Unless there is a much more detailed body-reaction engine (which I doubt it because it'd be far too technical to include and far too hard to use in-game), and much better referee AI (knowing when strikes of the hand / arm are unavoidable and situation-changing or not), then it's a pointless addition to any football game in my opinion.

[iluvnineties]

Oh I know it can and would be frustrating but the only reason why it would benefit the game is because it would add some extra realism flavor.

[Nick Cave]

I joined the EA forum just to moan about the lack of effort put into the MM and the damn lack of injuries...

Can you imagine mixing FM09 off field with FIFA 10 on field...

[gameklip]

No it won't have included any of last nights or Tuesday nights match
(gameklip's spoiler and this spoiler are about last nights results)

Semi shooting is actually awesome. When I first played the game and went straight on semi, I found it extremely hard to control my shots, as the shooting on FIFA09 has had a complete overhaul from 08, so going back to assisted for the first 3 weeks let me get used to it and now I've gone back to semi, it really is awesome. So much more realistic and you have to think a bit more about your aiming and shooting.

:)).

yeh i've only just started using manual passing and shooting and manual crossing and it's so much better. many more situations arise. it just got too easy on assisted. crossing especially. shooting was just a formality before. but now 1-1's are thrilling :lol

infact i've even seen a few more new animations from trying to control ball's slightly out of the player's comfort zones.

this truly is a great engine. if they work on manager mode for next year, it will be the best football game bar none. ever.

[gameklip]

I wish EA would sort out the non stop pressing people deploy. Its ridiculous that people can just keep pressing non stop without getting tired. At Eurogamer every game I watched of multiplayer Fifa everyone was using that tactic. You cant even pass the ball out from goal kicks.

i agree, you SHOULD get more tired from using pressing a lot

for example in the spurs arsenal game last night, spurs pressed arsenal high up the field all through the match but were visibly knackered as a result, conceding sloppy goals because of it

they way to counteract it is to use the 1-2-run. never try and control the ball with people pressing. 1-2 and over the top will undo them because they always leave space behind when they go so tight onto you. i have a team tactic of fast build-up and risky passing in the final third to undo the pressers. my defence just holds off and counters them so fast when they lose the ball.

it's the same for real life too.quick passing and movement ahead of you.

[stilts1844]

I saw someone posting a little while ago about people quitting near the end of matches and you not getting credit for the victory. I've had this happen at least 4 or 5 times now, and it's really pissing me off. I'm 10-8 and have been stuck there because these assholes quit in like the 80th minute, how is this allowed? I was winning 2-0 in the last game in the 80th min and the guy quits.... then has the audacity to invite me to another game!!!! Even worse than EA and not sorting out these bugs is that there are so many chumps out there who have 0 gaming honor! if that exists, which apparently it doesnt.

[Ogami]

I really don't understand why some people (including me) would get an automatic 3-0 victory when the opponent quits on you while others don't. It makes no sense.

I hope they'll fix this with a patch for you guys. I know I would be pissed if that happened to me.

[The Power]

hey guys is there any difference between the uk and asia version?

[Murkurial]

I think he means that if you play on semi/manual you will have to switch to assisted yourself to stand a chance against these people, because assisted passes/shots are so perfect. That's why I don't play ranked matches, your ranking on a video game means absolutely nothing yet some people take it so seriously.

Spot on. I was playing this Be A Pro Clubs crap. FIFA 09, online, is one of the worst football games I've ever played. EA took the progess made with FIFA 08 and completely fucked it up for this year's iteration. I wanna smash my keyboard right now just thinking about all the shit that I've experienced in the last two days (I've only had it for two days because I just got my 360 back) but it's seriously an assisted passing, assisted shooting, assisted throughball, Ronaldo, Fernando Torres, POS.

10 v 10 is a joke online even if your team plays it's position because it's SOOOOO easy to just press, press, press. Even in 1 v 1 matches a buddy of mine appears to be using some seriously high aggression and pressure tactics (like, the meters have to be close to 90) and I can do NOTHING. I have a tactic that I used against the CPU where Evra'll make bombing runs down the field, and players will actually show for passes and such. None of that matters when I play 1 v 1 though. Tactics are absolutely thrown out the window when playing someone who presses all the time.

I sincerely hope that Manager Mode is playable with the tactics because I really, really, really, don't like this game. It may just be like this online, but i can't tell you how many times I've seen either myself, or a teammate of mine, in the face of relentless pressure have Berbatov just get knocked flat on his ass by someone like Xavi. This is physicality? It's just people falling all over the place every 5 seconds. Free kicks are next to impossible to take now (I was pretty good at them in 08) and it just looks like everything that they built on with FIFA 08 has been pushed aside for super fast arcade football. Maybe being able to put the game on "Slow" would work, but we'll never know because they don't give the option to do it online for 10 v 10.

I've only played 8 1 v 1 ranked games and won 5 of them but none were any fun. Slowing the game down and passing around isn't possible with fools running at you non-stop (when will they get tired?).

I had a guy, from the kick-off, run straight through my entire team with Ronaldo. Each time i selected a player he would just jump back before starting to run and i couldn't catch him. He only scored off this one time and I won the game 3-2 but it's the mere fact that EA thinks that this should be possible that pisses me off. I have to worry more about stopping one man from running through my team than I do about the other 9 guys running the field. And 10 v 10, if I haven't already complained enough, is just about passing it to the fastest guy and running through the defense (all the while using assisted passing and throughballing).

THIS GAME DOES NOT REWARD PLAYING REAL SOCCER.

[k_19]

Well, I've just played the PS3 version of my friends (I own the 360 version) and had some comments... note that my friend had changed the control scheme to D-pad for moving instead of the analog stick (which frankly if I had the PS3 version, I'd do too, I hate those sticks).

- First, graphics... man, much worse than the 360's. Of course, it's 720p opposed to 1080i that I use but the difference was immense.

- The slowdowns blow. I hardly noticed slowdowns on the 360 version but for PS3 it is evident on every goal kick up the field.

- I changed the controls to semi/manual (semi for shot/pass, manual everything else) that I use for my 360 right away and... I found that it was absolutely NO different from playing on assisted! It was most likely because of the D-pad scheme to move and aim, but I did not miss a single pass, nor did I skew a single shot. I overpowered some of the shots of course, but the ones that had the right amount of power hit the target EVERY time. Through balls also seemed to hit the target more and long balls, too (saw the dreaded through ball bug, however). Crosses were VERY easy to hit, instead of the 360 version where most of my crosses go awry. Basically, accuracy of everything increased tenfold using the D-pad. It was almost like playing WE/PES. How odd...

- Dribbling and using the trick stick seemed MUCH more responsive on PS3. I was able to pull off some trick moves that actually worked for a change.

- Because of these things, the games were ridiculously easy, even on WC. Could not believe how much of a difference a D-pad can make as opposed to the analog stick. I'd actually try this for the 360 and see if it works the same way, if the D-pad wasn't so horrendous and I don't want to make things any simpler...

[matt1288]

hey guys is there any difference between the uk and asia version?

Only the cover of the game is different, that's it.

[Nick Cave]

Well,

- I changed the controls to semi/manual (semi for shot/pass, manual everything else) that I use for my 360 right away and... I found that it was absolutely NO different from playing on assisted! It was most likely because of the D-pad scheme to move and aim, but I did not miss a single pass, nor did I skew a single shot. I overpowered some of the shots of course, but the ones that had the right amount of power hit the target EVERY time. Through balls also seemed to hit the target more and long balls, too (saw the dreaded through ball bug, however). Crosses were VERY easy to hit, instead of the 360 version where most of my crosses go awry. Basically, accuracy of everything increased tenfold using the D-pad. It was almost like playing WE/PES. How odd...

- Dribbling and using the trick stick seemed MUCH more responsive on PS3. I was able to pull off some trick moves that actually worked for a change.



Hmmm I'm going to check this out, I have never played with the D pad on a footy title...

Anyone else tried or plays with the pad back this up?...

[Androctonvs]

THIS GAME DOES NOT REWARD PLAYING REAL SOCCER.

+ 87435603876756317865784036

this game doesn't feel rewarding at all.

first, you have to play against inter, united or chelsea ALL THE TIME.
These teams are SO overpowered that make MILAN look like a bunch of sissies falling all over the place.

I've almost had it with this game... and it's a shame, for it's potential, and me having spent 70 euros for it

:/

[Androctonvs]

i have played with the d-pad but went back to analog, because using r2+analog in fifa is what keeps my sanity when going back to r1+d-pad in pes.

[kobashi]

hey guys is there any difference between the uk and asia version?

I have the Asian version. Seems identical to my brothers Pal version!

[JayD]

I never use assisted, even online and I never use Man U , Inter < Barca etc. But my record is about 70% wins. If people use assisted it's just more of a challange for me and it makes me a better player.

[JayD]

Love it.

Just beat a guy online who was ranked in the top 900. He used Man U and I used Villa I won 3-2 away.

[gomito#10]

Spot on. I was playing this Be A Pro Clubs crap. FIFA 09, online, is one of the worst football games I've ever played. EA took the progess made with FIFA 08 and completely fucked it up for this year's iteration. I wanna smash my keyboard right now just thinking about all the shit that I've experienced in the last two days (I've only had it for two days because I just got my 360 back) but it's seriously an assisted passing, assisted shooting, assisted throughball, Ronaldo, Fernando Torres, POS.

10 v 10 is a joke online even if your team plays it's position because it's SOOOOO easy to just press, press, press. Even in 1 v 1 matches a buddy of mine appears to be using some seriously high aggression and pressure tactics (like, the meters have to be close to 90) and I can do NOTHING. I have a tactic that I used against the CPU where Evra'll make bombing runs down the field, and players will actually show for passes and such. None of that matters when I play 1 v 1 though. Tactics are absolutely thrown out the window when playing someone who presses all the time.

I sincerely hope that Manager Mode is playable with the tactics because I really, really, really, don't like this game. It may just be like this online, but i can't tell you how many times I've seen either myself, or a teammate of mine, in the face of relentless pressure have Berbatov just get knocked flat on his ass by someone like Xavi. This is physicality? It's just people falling all over the place every 5 seconds. Free kicks are next to impossible to take now (I was pretty good at them in 08) and it just looks like everything that they built on with FIFA 08 has been pushed aside for super fast arcade football. Maybe being able to put the game on "Slow" would work, but we'll never know because they don't give the option to do it online for 10 v 10.

I've only played 8 1 v 1 ranked games and won 5 of them but none were any fun. Slowing the game down and passing around isn't possible with fools running at you non-stop (when will they get tired?).

I had a guy, from the kick-off, run straight through my entire team with Ronaldo. Each time i selected a player he would just jump back before starting to run and i couldn't catch him. He only scored off this one time and I won the game 3-2 but it's the mere fact that EA thinks that this should be possible that pisses me off. I have to worry more about stopping one man from running through my team than I do about the other 9 guys running the field. And 10 v 10, if I haven't already complained enough, is just about passing it to the fastest guy and running through the defense (all the while using assisted passing and throughballing).

THIS GAME DOES NOT REWARD PLAYING REAL SOCCER.
i have to agree about the on-line ranked and 10 v 10.. MM is pretty good for me so far, especially with two vs the cpu, and 2 v 2 local is pretty good, but online ranked matches are shit. i think assisted is really shit in this game.. the pace is too fast as well, i liked the speed of 08

[Disqo]

Love it.

Just beat a guy online who was ranked in the top 900. He used Man U and I used Villa I won 3-2 away.

But isn't Villa considered a 'cheese' team due to ther pace and Carew's beast mode-ness

[gomito#10]

i think thats his point

[Chris Davies]

Anyone else put FIFA in today and noticed the new option in Xbox Live > Online Game Modes?

"Champions of Gaming Tournament" - interesting...

[SJP76]

I saw someone posting a little while ago about people quitting near the end of matches and you not getting credit for the victory. I've had this happen at least 4 or 5 times now, and it's really pissing me off. I'm 10-8 and have been stuck there because these assholes quit in like the 80th minute, how is this allowed? I was winning 2-0 in the last game in the 80th min and the guy quits.... then has the audacity to invite me to another game!!!! Even worse than EA and not sorting out these bugs is that there are so many chumps out there who have 0 gaming honor! if that exists, which apparently it doesnt.

I actually finished a game winning 2 - 0 and the guy quit AFTER the final whistle. No record of the game in my stats.
I'm not overly fussed about stats but it should have been acknowledged as a win.

[iluvnineties]

Played a few exhibition matches last night, legendary difficulty. I must say, CPU makes unrealistic, impossible passes, scores impossible goals, it's really hard to defend as my players are just unresponsive like they need CPR or something. Every attack is intercepted by the opposite side. Really frustrating. The gameplay is fluid but CPU makes some impossible plays down the line, very unrealistic. Also, sometimes CPU makes many odd, weird mistakes that a 4 yerold wouldn't make. The more I play FIFA 09 the more I don't like it. I won't even talk about PES 09.

[WILDSTER180774]

GUYS I NEED SERIOUS HELP (and not coz im a gooner)

I have lost Fifa09. I was playing a be a pro match when suddenly the screen went black and the game crashed. Had to turn off the ps3 and now i have re booted my ps3 does not recognize the disc. Its not showing up at all. Have tried another disc and it works fine. Its just the fifa09 disc. Any help or where can i go to get this sorted.

[k_19]

Played a few exhibition matches last night, legendary difficulty. I must say, CPU makes unrealistic, impossible passes, scores impossible goals, it's really hard to defend as my players are just unresponsive like they need CPR or something. Every attack is intercepted by the opposite side. Really frustrating. The gameplay is fluid but CPU makes some impossible plays down the line, very unrealistic. Also, sometimes CPU makes many odd, weird mistakes that a 4 yerold wouldn't make. The more I play FIFA 09 the more I don't like it. I won't even talk about PES 09.

I think no game will be realistic at a highest level difficulty. There is a limit to how well an AI can play realistically against a human opponent I think. The AI has to compensate by raising the stats and minimize the margin of error and all that. Every game is the same, whether it is FPS, Sports, Fighting, or whatever.

With that said, it's good for a challenge once in a while. I just tried a legendary game against the CPU on semi/manual settings and I can definitely still hang with them (tied 1-1 but lost in shootout) but for sure they don't play realistically. It has more to do with their attacks than defense, which I can still penetrate. If I used asissted then I'd still be able to cream them. :D I wouldn't mind teams like Chelsea, Man U, Barca play that way but I'd obviously won't want championship teams play that way. What I do for my Manager Mode is adjust the difficulty level to the level my opponent's team plays. So League 2 teams would play at Semi-pro difficulty, Championship/lower rank premiership teams on Professional, and best teams on World Class/legendary, with difficulty going up a notch if the opponent is playing at home. I find that things are quite realistic this way.

[k_19]

More things I've noticed when playing with the D-pad...

- I find that the CPU fouls/cards have gone down significantly, where as when I play with the analogue they'd get 6-7 fouls and 2-3 cards a game. I've played about 10 games now on the D-pad setting and I've gotten fouled maybe 3-4 times with NO good free kick opportunities. Most of the times, I'd get muscled off the ball with no foul called.

- It can be very difficult to play defense. I'd go in for a tackle that would work when I use the analog and the tackle would totally miss.

These two things probably show the limitations of using the D-pad, where there are only 8 possible directions. Most likely, the CPU only fouls or gets tackled at a certain angle that is very difficult to achieve with the D-pad. Same with the passing and shooting; with limited number of directions, the game most likely automatically chooses the best available direction for you. Overall, I believe that the D-pad oversimplified the engine and makes the game play more like WE/PES, which takes away from the true FIFA feeling.

[tobi]

The devs must be playing a different version of this game, in every game I have situations where players are just being stupid. I just lost a 1 nil to Chelski but with a few minutes to go in the game I fed Bent a through ball and his pace got him past Terry as he was running onto the ball, he takes a few strides and then decides to change direction and run away from the fucking ball. He would have been clean through on goal and I could have got a point he wasn't being a dick!

Simple things would have been spotted if they did proper QA testing.

[gameklip]

Well, I've just played the PS3 version of my friends (I own the 360 version) and had some comments... note that my friend had changed the control scheme to D-pad for moving instead of the analog stick (which frankly if I had the PS3 version, I'd do too, I hate those sticks).

- First, graphics... man, much worse than the 360's. Of course, it's 720p opposed to 1080i that I use but the difference was immense.

- The slowdowns blow. I hardly noticed slowdowns on the 360 version but for PS3 it is evident on every goal kick up the field.

- I changed the controls to semi/manual (semi for shot/pass, manual everything else) that I use for my 360 right away and... I found that it was absolutely NO different from playing on assisted! It was most likely because of the D-pad scheme to move and aim, but I did not miss a single pass, nor did I skew a single shot. I overpowered some of the shots of course, but the ones that had the right amount of power hit the target EVERY time. Through balls also seemed to hit the target more and long balls, too (saw the dreaded through ball bug, however). Crosses were VERY easy to hit, instead of the 360 version where most of my crosses go awry. Basically, accuracy of everything increased tenfold using the D-pad. It was almost like playing WE/PES. How odd...

- Dribbling and using the trick stick seemed MUCH more responsive on PS3. I was able to pull off some trick moves that actually worked for a change.

- Because of these things, the games were ridiculously easy, even on WC. Could not believe how much of a difference a D-pad can make as opposed to the analog stick. I'd actually try this for the 360 and see if it works the same way, if the D-pad wasn't so horrendous and I don't want to make things any simpler...



i said all this when the demo was out.

the PS3 version is almost like a different game. 360 version is bloody hard to pull the tricks and shots off. i think it has to do with the controller though. they've tailor made the game to the DS3. it's the only explanation. dunno what's up with the visuals though. stll a great game on PS3 however.

[gameklip]

Love it.

Just beat a guy online who was ranked in the top 900. He used Man U and I used Villa I won 3-2 away.


ahaha nice one. i used Man city most of the time and beat people using Man utd and Barca.. tbh i use decent teams (arsenal AC milan, Man city). my record is something like 8wins and 7losses. i lost some stupid games though (silly errors. i need a weekend to just plough into online. i work weekends though. :(

[beboq]

I`ve find FIFA 09 to be much more challenging then 08 , 10 v 10 doesn`t work for me unless your playing in club 10 v 10. Tactic settings are great ! game is not perfect ,but what is?? My suggestion for online play is play w/ similar skills as you. Online for me is mostly mint only in rain (overcast me think)I notice slow downs. tbh I`ve only been playing FIFA since July 08 after pes servers broke in pes2008.

[Tim7]

Anyone else put FIFA in today and noticed the new option in Xbox Live > Online Game Modes?

"Champions of Gaming Tournament" - interesting...
Yeah I noticed that this morning, looks weird.

[Rob92]

For anyone else who thinks night games look crap and wants to avoid them for online games when creating them, i've made a list of ones without the "Night" option:

Aloha Park
Camp Nou
Estadio Azteca
Estadio Latino
Estadio Vicente Calderon
Euro Park
Football Ground
Fussballstadion
Ivy Lane
O Dromo
Olimpico Generico
Olympiastadion
San Siro
Square Ground
Stade Gerland
Stade Kokoto
Stade Municipal
Stade Velodrome
Stadio Classico
Stadio Delle Alpi
Stadio Olimpico
Stadion 23. Maj
Stadion Neder
Stadion Olympik
Town Park

[Chris Davies]

Haven't played ranked matches on FIFA 09 since release day (I never do, plain ranked/unranked matches bore me to death, I prefer leagues etc. otherwise it's just like playing endless friendlies with no meaning). So I didn't know what to expect when I offered to sit with dad and play as a "guest" with him today (he plays 10-20 a day, no exaggeration, and he's won something like 8 out of 400).

Five people in a row selected Man United, the next guy selected Barcelona, then three people in a row selected Man United, before one guy picked Tottenham. So we played him and he quit at half time. :YAWN: EDIT: And thanks to some glitch, it didn't count as a win for us.

They say there's one born every minute, do they give them a free Xbox with gold Live membership or something?

[sweetkilla]

today is free gold weekend :P

[Rob92]

I have played 3 online ranked games, it's just an assisted through ball fest and not at all realistic, I won't be playing any more. I have played 3, one of them I lost 3-2, the next one I scored around the 20th minute and they quit (yet on my profile it counts on my DNF%) and the other I won 2-0. None were enjoyable, they were all crap.

I have had some decent unranked matches but hardly anyone creates/joins manual games and then your opponent picks the 5* teams and uses assisted almost all the time anyway...

B-O-R-I-N-G

So now I am just playing BAP Seasons, BAP Clubs, playing people I know on semi/manual and I will start a manager mode when I sort out the free agents and make the squad file for it. There's still enough in this game for me to enjoy without 1v1 online with random people thankfully.

[riboflavin]

What the best way to get pace on a free kick? Anyone have a good method? Cant seem to find the pace from like 30 yards out.

[Machines]

The EA Sports ticker at the bottom has spoiled some real world games for me a couple of times now. Anyone know if you can turn that thing off? I can't seem to find an option for it.

[phrase]

Turn the RSS feeds off.

[danhammer]

have been playing pro evo since release, love it although played fifa last night for the first time in over a week and it's still great...so i'm happy got two games that i enjoy

[hitmanuk]

What the best way to get pace on a free kick? Anyone have a good method? Cant seem to find the pace from like 30 yards out.

hold down your left button for a powerful freekick i think

[Matt10]

Question - for world class. What does everyone do in matters of defense to prevent shots on goal from the top of the box? I understand you have to give the cpu space, but sometimes too much space leads to shots on goal - there has to be something we can do about this.

[hitmanuk]

I dont know if anyone has posted this but I have just installed FIFA 09 on my hard drive with the new M$ dash (doesnt support LIVE until 19th Novemeber but im not too bothered)
Massive improvement to my already favourite football game:

Problems I experienced before but now completey gone

Slow Down especially from goal kicks - GONE!
Comentary Behind - GONE!
Slow Substitutions - GONE!
Disc Spinning - 5-10 sec silence - GONE!

Add on lightening loading times too :O)

This is a great dashboard for FIFA..I love it..Coming 19th november i believe

[Tim7]

How have you got it already then?

[hitmanuk]

thought it was common knowlege that there is a private beta floating about..loads of people are using it modded and unmodded

[k_19]

Question - for world class. What does everyone do in matters of defense to prevent shots on goal from the top of the box? I understand you have to give the cpu space, but sometimes too much space leads to shots on goal - there has to be something we can do about this.

You'll have to do your best for your defenders to stay in FRONT of the attackers when around the box, denying them the angle to shoot. It can be hard when CPU is twisting and turning effortlessly at every angle, but if they don't have any space to shoot in front of them, they won't (or if they do, it'll sail high). It's less worrying than some of the other CPU attacks though, like their cross/invincible headers they like to do all the time, or their defense splitting through passes (more you stay directly in front of them, more angle you are giving them to pass).

[Nick Cave]

Come on EA sort the patch out already...

[SJP76]

WTF? I just played an online game and the guy I played went Barca, His squad icluded Terry, Ronaldo, Ibrahimovic, Pirlo, Torres, Fabregas, Frey & Casillas. How is this possible?

[YoungGun_UK]

hack, glitch? Shocking stuff though,

[Matt10]

You'll have to do your best for your defenders to stay in FRONT of the attackers when around the box, denying them the angle to shoot. It can be hard when CPU is twisting and turning effortlessly at every angle, but if they don't have any space to shoot in front of them, they won't (or if they do, it'll sail high). It's less worrying than some of the other CPU attacks though, like their cross/invincible headers they like to do all the time, or their defense splitting through passes (more you stay directly in front of them, more angle you are giving them to pass).

Thanks K_19, I was hoping for your input. This will be another quote I add to my document called K_19_MastaWC_FIFA.doc :) (it's real!). I also believe it could be my formation, when comparing my Preston one with Chelsea - I notice my centerbacks (4-4-2) have a bit of space between each other, leaving the middle significantly open.