FIFA 09 PS3/360 Discussion Thread

[Trance_Allstar]

great post Trance_Allstar...
i would like to hear your thoughts on how the players attributes influence the semi-assisted shooting...
for ex: if i aim and power it exact the same with Nistelrooy and some 3rd div player, what will be the diferences in the result of the shoot, i knwo the power will be diferent, but will the direction also be diferent?
if u fell like writing about it please do :)


thanx! ;)

Thanks mate. ;)


TO be completely honest, I have not gotten my head completely around FIFA09 yet.

I don't own a 360 myself, which means I can't spend as much time with it as I'd like.
But, the more problematic issue is that, due to a lack of any visual indications on the screen as to where you are aiming your stick, you can rarely be very consistent with the stick aiming. This is even more true if you have a worn out analog stick on an old controller, since the stick is usually a bit loose and when making fine adjustments you can sort of end up changing the aim in large increments or "notches", rather than a smooth almost completely continuous movement as with new fresh pads.

Though, It does seem that less skilled players have worse accuracy than star players.
In my experience, there seems to be a bit of a tendency towards a "hit or miss" mentality. That is, the differnce of accuracy between differently skilled players seem pretty similar, until you reach the point of each player where a strike is deemed "inaccurate". At this point, it seems like worse players suffer alot more in terms of loss in power and precision. Also the less skilled players tend to get alot more height on the shot than better players. Even under mild inaccuracy conditions, worse players usually send the ball over the bar (where a star player still could've managed to control the shot better and impart more power and control on the shot).

For future games, I feel they could try and balance it out a bit more, so that there is a more sliding, natural scale between "accurate" and "inaccurate" shots, so that you don't need to "mishit" per se for a shot to stray noticeably. Also they could implement more serious penalties for bad mishits, such as completely botched shots or such (as opposed to the quite tolerant levels of inaccuracy currently in place for wild hard shots that are taken when pressured or imbalanced). Just for realism's sake.


Though overall these complaints aren't at all big for me. The more I play the game, I realize that the balance they have now is really quite spectacular, and I've yet to find anything sticking out obnoxiously (then again, haven't played it overly much so... :)).

[Jamezinho]

Just out of interest, what difficulty level are you guys playing the CPU on?

I've been playing on world class and while I find it challenging it's also extremely frustrating too. It feels like all the CPU players have become physically stronger than all my players (even my so called strong players) and I get pushed off the ball too easily at every attempt. Am I doing something wrong? Also, every CPU team plays like they have the double pressure button clamped down the whole game.

Maybe I should go back to Professional level. I feel a bit too comfortable on that difficulty, but at least I can play some decent football and the games feel less of a scrappy chore. If only there was a difficulty level in between the two.

[vondave]

GET THE FUCK IN!!!

After playing mainly on semi (through balls and lobs manual) ive tonight changed it to all manual.

Great freedom but fucking hard- been trying to score my first goal never mind win my first match for the achievement.

Conceded a late goal then with literally the last kick of the game I do this to equalise:

http://www.eafootballworld.com/en_GB/video/1595384


Beat that for your first ever goaL on all manual!!!

Love this game

[pepper63]

Just saw a cool animation,Scotland v Russia International Tourny, and Mcfadden claches with Shirokov and Shirokov stumbles hand on his face.A little blood would have been a nice touch.:P

[Chris Davies]

I've been playing on world class and while I find it challenging it's also extremely frustrating too. It feels like all the CPU players have become physically stronger than all my players (even my so called strong players) and I get pushed off the ball too easily at every attempt. Am I doing something wrong? Also, every CPU team plays like they have the double pressure button clamped down the whole game.
See my post on FSB today entitled "FIFA 09; what needs improving"... It's nothing you're doing wrong, it's the way the game is.

If you play on professional you'll win every game. So either you stick with it or you choose a better team, which eliminates the problem (playing as a Premier League team on world class, it's a different game, honestly - because all of the players are of a higher skill level, every game is great and completely realistic, but with the really crap lower-league teams it's a nightmare).

It's a lot more fun playing as a Premier League team but I want to make a career for myself and get Tranmere promoted first (without winning every game 3-0 on professional). So my advice - this will go down like a lead balloon but I'm amazed at the difference it's made - is to go on... Assisted everything.

Yeah, I said it, assisted everything. :SHOCK:

I got so pissed off with it, with them intercepting every pass I made and scoring in the 90th minute all the time, I thought "screw this, I'm going to put it on assisted passing to see if it makes a difference" - big difference. Won my first game in eight matches, as Tranmere on world class. Passed it around, got a cross in, header, 1-0. And I managed to hold onto it, just. It's still hard as hell, way too hard than it should be being in League One, but you'll find yourself making a lot more chances. And with assisted shooting on as well it means they won't constantly hit shots weak as piss and as wide as Vanessa Feltz.

Having a lot more fun now. You can still miss the target on assisted shooting so I don't think it hurts the gameplay too much at all, at least not against the CPU. I won't use assisted anything online.

[tobi]

I upped the game level to World Class for 2 games but I've put it back down to Professional for now. In both World Class games the speed of the game suddenly became very fast, I lost both games 1 nil and conceded in the first 2/3 mins of both games.

The only mode I'm playing right now is a standard La Liga season, all the games have had a slow pace to them just like the actual La Liga but when I upped the level its as if the opposition transformed into EPL teams and where not thinking about their passes. At first I thought maybe it was the oppositions tactics but I played them again on Professional and they behaved normally.

[stuartyd]

stuartdunlop, are you playing ps3 or 360??
I play with all on manual, but cant find others, with that setup on ps3.

I've got both but to be honest I prefer the Xbox version. I don't play on all manual though, just manual through ball and manual lob passes, the rest on semi

[Rob92]

GET THE FUCK IN!!!

After playing mainly on semi (through balls and lobs manual) ive tonight changed it to all manual.

Great freedom but fucking hard- been trying to score my first goal never mind win my first match for the achievement.

Conceded a late goal then with literally the last kick of the game I do this to equalise:

http://www.eafootballworld.com/en_GB/video/1595384


Beat that for your first ever goaL on all manual!!!

Love this gameThat's a brilliant goal mate, especially on manual! I still havn't scored from long range yet :(.

[vglntv95]

That's disgusting Chris, you should be ashamed. Lol jokes.

Just had three more games against Rob, I was robbed blind in the last game I'm telling you. A tackle on the edge of the area, barely any contact whatsoever yet somehow it's a free kick AND a red card which he then curls round the wall on the blind side of the keeper a la Roberto Carlos into the corner an impossible goal in the 120th minute of extra time then I lose on penalties. I was fuming lol. That was frantic attacking football though. Oh and I scored a wonder goal in the last minute of normal time that hit the underside of the bar and I'm sure it went in but the corrupt, biased wanker of a ref didn't award it.

I can't take any more tonight, it's incredibly frustrating when you aren't winning!

[Jamezinho]

So my advice - this will go down like a lead balloon but I'm amazed at the difference it's made - is to go on... Assisted everything.

Yeah, I said it, assisted everything. :SHOCK:.

Well I never! Chris Bauer in full assists shocker!:SHOCK:

Hmmm....maybe I'll give it a try. At the moment I use manual through ball and lob passes and the rest on semi. I never play with anything fully assisted and to be honest I'm quite reluctant to switch to full auto just because I enjoy the human input of manual controls too much. I see your point, though. Thanks for the advice.

I'm quite happy to play on professional as I don't destroy the computer at this level (far from it) but I am very comfortable and win my fair share. On world class everything becomes rushed and scrappy whereas the CPU plays more patient and considered football on Pro, in my opinion. The most important thing is that I enjoy the game, but I'm tearing my hair out on world class. If only there was a level in between!


I upped the game level to World Class for 2 games but I've put it back down to Professional for now. In both World Class games the speed of the game suddenly became very fast, I lost both games 1 nil and conceded in the first 2/3 mins of both games.

The only mode I'm playing right now is a standard La Liga season, all the games have had a slow pace to them just like the actual La Liga but when I upped the level its as if the opposition transformed into EPL teams and where not thinking about their passes. At first I thought maybe it was the oppositions tactics but I played them again on Professional and they behaved normally.

Yep, that's pretty much how I'm seeing it.

[Rob92]

That's disgusting Chris, you should be ashamed. Lol jokes.

Just had three more games against Rob, I was robbed blind in the last game I'm telling you. A tackle on the edge of the area, barely any contact whatsoever yet somehow it's a free kick AND a red card which he then curls round the wall on the blind side of the keeper a la Roberto Carlos into the corner an impossible goal in the 120th minute of extra time then I lose on penalties. I was fuming lol. That was frantic attacking football though. Oh and I scored a wonder goal in the last minute of normal time that hit the underside of the bar and I'm sure it went in but the corrupt, biased wanker of a ref didn't award it.

I can't take any more tonight, it's incredibly frustrating when you aren't winning!Yeah you were robbed - the other two red cards you got in the other game were not really deserved either.

That was a great strike in the 90th minute, I thought it was in as well, nothing was going for you that game it seemed. I was very lucky to get to penalties let alone win it.

I did enjoy those games with you a lot, such a breath of fresh air after just playing people on assisted. A lot of people don't realise how good the game is with manual/semi controls, as they either don't try them or give up before they get the hang of them. As you said before - it transforms the game from something that would be a 6 or 7/10 game into a 9 or 10/10 game.

[Keith Houchen]

The system you refer to, with having to time the direction movements of the analog stick, seems to be similar to Top Spin 3.

First let me say I love the way you are a thinker about the game - this and many other games, I'm sure - and second let me say that if you have never read any Nicholson Baker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholson_Baker), then you should. He is your brother.

I was indeed suggesting that FIFA09's semi-manual shooting is similar to Topspin3's. After another day today spent with it, I still suspect this to be the case. Considerations about whether this 'should' be the case are a separate matter.

But I am coming over to what I think is your suggestion that FIFA09's targeting system is exactly what it should be: wholly analogue. I.e. to aim just inside the right post you need to press the stick a proportionate amount in that direction. Not all the way over to the right. Just half, or two-thirds, of the way over. The duration of the press doesn't come into it.

This targeting system could be visualised as a circle divided into 'zones of accuracy' - like an archery target, with the outer rings corresponding to an all-the-way press (and a miss), and the inner rings being more and more on-target. The bullseye would be a straight shot, or minutely to either side of centre if the stick was tweaked ever so slightly.

This would be a fiendishly tough system to master, at least to begin with. A lifetime of football gaming goes against it. You would have to be disciplined enough in the midst of a high-pressure moment - in perhaps a fraction of a second's window of opportunity - whilst probably holding that stick all-the-way-over in order to run/sprint a player towards goal, to then move the same analogue stick to a position midway between its neutral point of rest and that outer point, in order to strike the corner of the net, say.

I think that's what you are saying, and it does kind of make sense. It would explain inconsistencies with the system I had in mind. I'll have to test it out on the pitch in the morning.

[liger05]

Playing on world class with liverpool. Chelsea is the only team I have plaed so far where I really struggled.

[brunnoce]

Thanks mate. ;)


TO be completely honest, I have not gotten my head completely around FIFA09 yet.

I don't own a 360 myself, which means I can't spend as much time with it as I'd like.
But, the more problematic issue is that, due to a lack of any visual indications on the screen as to where you are aiming your stick, you can rarely be very consistent with the stick aiming. This is even more true if you have a worn out analog stick on an old controller, since the stick is usually a bit loose and when making fine adjustments you can sort of end up changing the aim in large increments or "notches", rather than a smooth almost completely continuous movement as with new fresh pads.

Though, It does seem that less skilled players have worse accuracy than star players.
In my experience, there seems to be a bit of a tendency towards a "hit or miss" mentality. That is, the differnce of accuracy between differently skilled players seem pretty similar, until you reach the point of each player where a strike is deemed "inaccurate". At this point, it seems like worse players suffer alot more in terms of loss in power and precision. Also the less skilled players tend to get alot more height on the shot than better players. Even under mild inaccuracy conditions, worse players usually send the ball over the bar (where a star player still could've managed to control the shot better and impart more power and control on the shot).

For future games, I feel they could try and balance it out a bit more, so that there is a more sliding, natural scale between "accurate" and "inaccurate" shots, so that you don't need to "mishit" per se for a shot to stray noticeably. Also they could implement more serious penalties for bad mishits, such as completely botched shots or such (as opposed to the quite tolerant levels of inaccuracy currently in place for wild hard shots that are taken when pressured or imbalanced). Just for realism's sake.


Though overall these complaints aren't at all big for me. The more I play the game, I realize that the balance they have now is really quite spectacular, and I've yet to find anything sticking out obnoxiously (then again, haven't played it overly much so... :)).


very good insight as aways m8...
ill give semi shooting a serious try...i hope i can feel the diference between shooting with guiza and puyol for instance...

ill leave my thoughts soon

[Jamezinho]

Playing on world class with liverpool. Chelsea is the only team I have plaed so far where I really struggled.

Try playing with Wigan. Every game is a struggle!

[Rodelero]

Pretty much the final straw for me in relation to online ranked games. It's a farce, again.

Super teams are unbeatable. Assists are common place. Game biases incredibly to through ball tactics. Game seems, quite literally, to have different refereeing depending on which team you are. I've been taken down from behind numerous times today, and they got away with it. I could, slightly touch the player whilst tackling the ball, and it would be a foul

Final straw came, beating someone 4-0, when EA disconnected me and it got recorded as a loss.

Sigh. FIFA 09 is so much better in x number of ways, but online, it's almost as flawed as 08.

[Trance_Allstar]

First let me say I love the way you are a thinker about the game - this and many other games, I'm sure - and second let me say that if you have never read any Nicholson Baker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholson_Baker), then you should. He is your brother.

I was indeed suggesting that FIFA09's semi-manual shooting is similar to Topspin3's. After another day today spent with it, I still suspect this to be the case. Considerations about whether this 'should' be the case are a separate matter.

But I am coming over to what I think is your suggestion that FIFA09's targeting system is exactly what it should be: wholly analogue. I.e. to aim just inside the right post you need to press the stick a proportionate amount in that direction. Not all the way over to the right. Just half, or two-thirds, of the way over. The duration of the press doesn't come into it.

This targeting system could be visualised as a circle divided into 'zones of accuracy' - like an archery target, with the outer rings corresponding to an all-the-way press (and a miss), and the inner rings being more and more on-target. The bullseye would be a straight shot, or minutely to either side of centre if the stick was tweaked ever so slightly.

This would be a fiendishly tough system to master, at least to begin with. A lifetime of football gaming goes against it. You would have to be disciplined enough in the midst of a high-pressure moment - in perhaps a fraction of a second's window of opportunity - whilst probably holding that stick all-the-way-over in order to run/sprint a player towards goal, to then move the same analogue stick to a position midway between its neutral point of rest and that outer point, in order to strike the corner of the net, say.

I think that's what you are saying, and it does kind of make sense. It would explain inconsistencies with the system I had in mind. I'll have to test it out on the pitch in the morning.

Well, I'm not entirely sure what you refer to with using the archery target analogy. My understanding of how FIFA's targeting works is really quite basic.


L33T paint illustration (For "SEMI" shooting):

http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fifaaimingsemiao9.jpg


Since this is "Semi", the range of the analog stick is limited to a bit outside the post when tilting the stick 90 degrees to the side of the goal. Changes happen when you move off-center from goal, but the principles seem the same.

With this system you can aim anywhere you want on goal. This is also why I prefer Semi shooting, if I press the shot button I don't need to be able to aim at the corner flag, since my intention most of the times when pressing shot is to hit goal, and thus I don't need to waste analog stick range by having the aiming follow the analog stick precisely.

Also I have played FIFA09 and 08 alot, and I've never seem any deviation from this way of aiming.
Even if they supposedly had some type of support for determining how far off-center to aim by how long you hold the analog stick to the side (a sort of inertia-system, holding for too long will push the aiming to far out and you will miss), why would you even use that method, when you can simply press the stick in the angle you want the ball to go, and then shoot? Doesn't get much easier, and this sytem allows for last-second complete changes in aiming direction, while the inertia system would be impossible to get back the other way in time, sicne you might need to hold the stick for 0.5 seconds for the aiming to stray a certain distance from "center".

I hope I make sense. :)

very good insight as aways m8...
ill give semi shooting a serious try...i hope i can feel the diference between shooting with guiza and puyol for instance...

ill leave my thoughts soon

Do that, I'll be interested to hear what others find. :)

[viniciusdcs]

Hey guys, are there celebrations for winning leagues in Fifa 09? I never finished any leagues in Fifa 08 so I don't know if it had it.

If there is, do they look good?

[k_19]

Hey guys, are there celebrations for winning leagues in Fifa 09? I never finished any leagues in Fifa 08 so I don't know if it had it.

If there is, do they look good?

I certainly hope so, and I'd like to know as well. In 08, all you would see is the generic celebrations with your teammates then a team picture. For god sakes, would it hurt to at least show the trophy? In this regard WE/PES has always trumped it... where you can actually see players receiving the medals, confetties, trophy lifting, victory lap, etc.

It's not like I want a 10 minute celebration clip or anything (actually, it wouldn't be bad if there was... you played through the whole season and won it after all, and it would be a nice reward), but at least include something decent. I know gameplay takes precedence, but I think this would be worthy to at least bring up to developer's attention for 2010.

[Matk]

Whenever i upload a video to EASportsWorld, it says the upload has been successful, but doesn't appear on my Profile page.

The video appears in-game on the "upload list", but nowhere to be found on EA's website.

Can someone help me out please. Thanks.
I had the same problem. I am guessing you have the wrong persona selected on your easportsworld.com page.

When you logon click on the profile tab - you should see your details somewhere. Click 'edit'. That will take you to a new page. From there you can select the persona that is associated with your PS3 or XBOX360 account. You should then be able to see your vids.

Hope this helps.

[DagsJT]

Started a MM on World Class with Las Palmas. Won my first game 3-1 but have since drew two games 0-0. The CPU really closes down the angles and makes it difficult for me to create chances.

Can't say I've noticed any cheating though, no stronger players, no excessive pressure, no faster players. Seems fine to me, and a very good challenge :))

[vglntv95]

Online is a joke I agree, complete disaster. The only way I've managed to mitigate that disaster is by playing people like Rob/Bobby and anyone else I know who plays on semi/manual as that will ensure you always get a good game.

Is there anyway we can lobby EA to ensure they give better online options next year? So we aren't forced yet again to play vs. assisted/top team whores? I've posted about it on the forum but didn't get much response.

Oh and Rodelero, if you want to counteract the predominance of people using through balls/aerial through balls custom tactics in conjunction with a defensive formation can work wonders. I've really managed to frustrate some good players by playing a containment 4-5-1 formation with customatic tactics set up for very low pressing/aggression which means I usually have the whole team defending on the edge of the area, but I can still score some goals on the counter.

[yuyazan]

how much adidas live season all league pack for x360?

[Placebo]

To keep each additional league up-to-date with adidas Live Season will cost £4.99 (around €7/$7 USD), or you can choose to keep all leagues updated for £12.99 (around €20/$20 USD).

[damianpadden]

GET THE FUCK IN!!!

After playing mainly on semi (through balls and lobs manual) ive tonight changed it to all manual.

Great freedom but fucking hard- been trying to score my first goal never mind win my first match for the achievement.

Conceded a late goal then with literally the last kick of the game I do this to equalise:

http://www.eafootballworld.com/en_GB/video/1595384


Beat that for your first ever goaL on all manual!!!

Love this game

love how the keeper just lays on the ground with his arms open.lol

[WEtongelre]

I am playing 2 manager mode's. First with Galatasaray on Legandary and ended first. Second with Arsenal on Worldclass. I've played 12 games and won all of them (some with 7-1, 6-0, 5-1) so I think I go switch to Legandary.

[Placebo]

IMO the best option is to change to all manual controls instead of upping to legendary, game is harder due to your ability with a controller that way rather than by means of AI cheating....

[Cammey]

I find the trouble with manual controls is that it takes away the ability to do the early cross.

And also it makes the game too hard in my opinion.

[vondave]

completely agree with all manual, it feels more organic. response time seems better, more deflections, more precision etc and you can try extravagant goals.

I love crossing from one wing to the other so the winger runs on and trys to volley it first time outside of the foot, edge of the box. It will come off one day.

[Placebo]

I find the trouble with manual controls is that it takes away the ability to do the early cross.

And also it makes the game too hard in my opinion.

I have no problem doing the early cross with manual crossing, just takes some practice really. I guess it's all down to personal choice but for me battling the underdog AI routines on Legendary with assisted settings is more tedious than battling my controller dexterity on Professional/World Class :)

[Tim7]

Placebo I have to disagree with your hatred of manual shooting. A guy a few pages back, (sorry I forget who it was), said that having shooting on assisted doesn't always mean your shots go on target, or always go in. It's not just a case of press shoot and you get a goal. You still have to get into the shooting position, and create the chances etc. And I'd also like to say I think assisted shooting is more realistic - In real life if a striker has time and space from 15 yards out, they will hit the target 8 times out of 10, and probably score 5 times out of 10. With assisted that happens, but when you're on semi, you're lucky to even get a shot on target 4 times out of 10.

Just my two pennies worth :)).

[Placebo]

Placebo I have to disagree with your hatred of manual shooting. A guy a few pages back, (sorry I forget who it was), said that having shooting on assisted doesn't always mean your shots go on target, or always go in. It's not just a case of press shoot and you get a goal. You still have to get into the shooting position, and create the chances etc. And I'd also like to say I think assisted shooting is more realistic - In real life if a striker has time and space from 15 yards out, they will hit the target 8 times out of 10, and probably score 5 times out of 10. With assisted that happens, but when you're on semi, you're lucky to even get a shot on target 4 times out of 10.

Just my two pennies worth :)).

1. I don't have a hatred for it.
2. It was Chris Davies.
3. From 15 yards out double tap shooting on semi hits the target 8/10.

That is all.

[yuyazan]

To keep each additional league up-to-date with adidas Live Season will cost £4.99 (around €7/$7 USD), or you can choose to keep all leagues updated for £12.99 (around €20/$20 USD).

thanks reply.

how cheap...
cant wait for playing...

[Keith Houchen]

Well, I'm not entirely sure what you refer to with using the archery target analogy. My understanding of how FIFA's targeting works is really quite basic.


L33T paint illustration (For "SEMI" shooting):

http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fifaaimingsemiao9.jpg


I won't expand my archery target analogy further, as I tested it out and it doesn't work. Your diagram also doesn't match what I see on-screen. Most of the outer lines are outright misses; only the inner cluster of lines are on-target, and they're so minutely outside of the neutral zone that they barely trouble the keeper.

So far the best explanation for what I've seen on-screen is my Topspin3-style analogy, where the duration of your press in the direction determines the accuracy, along with the usual other factors (player stats, position, defensive pressure, etc). Even this is unsatisfactory and produces variable results, but then so does everything else...

[Tim7]

1. I don't have a hatred for it.
2. It was Chris Davies.
3. From 15 yards out double tap shooting on semi hits the target 8/10.

That is all.

1. Fair enough
2. Blimey, was it!?
3. I don't wanna be scoring pee rollers all the time :((.

[Coopz]

1. I don't have a hatred for it.
2. It was Chris Davies.
3. From 15 yards out double tap shooting on semi hits the target 8/10.

That is all.

Double tap?

are you sure that's not just your names effect like the right analogue for curl becuase as far as i can see you can only make the shooting bar go up once?

[andish2001]

Shooting on semi is brilliant - just takes a hell of a long time in the arena to get used to. Persist through - its been well documented already that this game has a small period after the initial amazement that is leaving alot of people frustrated, followed by the game turning amazing again. I suspect those complaining are very much stuck in the 2nd stage, like my brother. He just cant get the hang of it and really isnt having fun - a stage i was in last week. Eventually, you'll break through - all of a sudden, my manual passes were going everywhere i wanted, my shooting on semi is on target 8/10 or 9/10 (i am SUPER accurate :D), im seeing things in terms of runs i never saw in 08 and can win just about every header - against human or AI.

Dont ask me why the game has this 3-stage "getting used to" period - i was skeptical but having experienced it first hand, it really is there. For all those finding 09 both difficult and frustrating, PERSIST. Just play, over and over, and it will turn good eventually.

My current gripe is that the AI still do circus circles as poorly as ever, whether i defend by pressing or my preferred method of jockeying (which btw, completely throws every human player ive encountered. No-one knows how to attack against a defender sitting off him and not charging i). Super frustrating because it means that despite me having 9 shots vs AI's 3, winning 2-0, the possession stat is also 40-60 or worse for me.

[Chris Davies]

Double tap?

are you sure that's not just your names effect like the right analogue for curl becuase as far as i can see you can only make the shooting bar go up once?
Double-tapping just means that you stop the power bar at a small enough "charge" to dispatch a low shot that the keeper will have trouble with - it's not a secret button press or anything, it just means that you won't accidentally sky the shot like I always do, because you're tapping the button and letting go as fast as you can (in order to get the second press in). You could just tap it once, quickly, but then you're more likely to hold onto it slightly too long.

Placebo might disagree with me there but that's certainly how I see it. ;)

[Placebo]

Double-tapping just means that you stop the power bar at a small enough "charge" to dispatch a low shot that the keeper will have trouble with - it's not a secret button press or anything, it just means that you won't accidentally sky the shot like I always do, because you're tapping the button and letting go as fast as you can (in order to get the second press in). You could just tap it once, quickly, but then you're more likely to hold onto it slightly too long.

Placebo might disagree with me there but that's certainly how I see it. ;)

No that's almost certainly how it is, if I try to do a quick tap (especially with poor lower league players) it still ends up too much and goes skyward, doing a double tap forces a very short press of the shoot button :)

It doesn't always force a low shot either, I've scored goals in off the crossbar using the double tap shooting technique, it's so successful at anything less than 18 yards I'd consider it almost an exploit, I'd say it's 70/30 for one on ones in favour of the attacker which puts it ahead of finesse and rounding the keeper in Fifa09 now.

[brunnoce]

Placebo I have to disagree with your hatred of manual shooting. A guy a few pages back, (sorry I forget who it was), said that having shooting on assisted doesn't always mean your shots go on target, or always go in. It's not just a case of press shoot and you get a goal. You still have to get into the shooting position, and create the chances etc. And I'd also like to say I think assisted shooting is more realistic - In real life if a striker has time and space from 15 yards out, they will hit the target 8 times out of 10, and probably score 5 times out of 10. With assisted that happens, but when you're on semi, you're lucky to even get a shot on target 4 times out of 10.

Just my two pennies worth :)).

what bugs me with assisted shooting is that one on one situations with the keeper is almost an automatc goal...players(whatever player) never and i mean never miss the target...thats not realisitc to me, ive seen plenty of strikers shooting inches away or a bit more in real life on that situation...
also, i think its just too easy to shoot on target...if u master the power bar, every shoot will be on goal. the only way to miss the target with the assisted shooting is by overpowering it, there is no missdirection(or barely none) this bugs me a lot, cause now i mastered the power bar, so i would end up games having 14 shoots on target, for 12 amazing, but common, GK saves and maybe 2 goals...
on semi, the spetacular saves are cut down a lot...which makes u go WOW when u see a great save, instead of thinking "again?!?!"

than again, semi and manual shooting can be very frustating in the begining of the learning process, and i think thats the main reason people give up on it...

after u learn , the freedom of targeting u have is just amazing, u start seeing balls hit anywhere , its amazing..totally unscripted.

[Placebo]

1. Fair enough
2. Blimey, was it!?
3. I don't wanna be scoring pee rollers all the time :((.

Double tapping rarely = "pee roller", try it ;))

[DagsJT]

Can't say I've noticed any problems with semi-shooting either :CONF:

Assisted shooting is a load of crap though, what's the point? It basically says you can't aim yourself so you really do need the help of the CPU to get it in. If you use assisted shooting, you can't ever really complain about AI cheats because you're having to use a cheat to score yourself.

[brunnoce]

Can't say I've noticed any problems with semi-shooting either :CONF:

Assisted shooting is a load of crap though, what's the point? It basically says you can't aim yourself so you really do need the help of the CPU to get it in. If you use assisted shooting, you can't ever really complain about AI cheats because you're having to use a cheat to score yourself.

i think assisted shooting is only "valid" for people that MUST use the d-pad...
on the analog, i just think its a waste to use it since u gonna be restrained to a lot fewer shooting possibilities compared to analog+semi/manual, just my opinion....

[Chris Davies]

I won't use assisted online but do me a favour, play on semi controls, as Tranmere against Huddersfield (both in the same league) on world class, and tell me that you're not frustrated as fuck after five minutes at how they keep pushing you off the ball, pressing for 90 minutes without getting tired, and scoring goals that you can do nothing about (pinging the ball around you like Premier League players, you can't get near them). Plus, notice how your passes are underhit and intercepted all of the time, and if they're not going to be intercepted, the game will delay your reactions enough for the CPU to grab it. If I can equal that up a bit, then fuck yes, I'm going to.

And when I say "Tranmere v Huddersfield" make sure that's the game you play, because if you play Liverpool v Everton or whatever, it's a TOTALLY different game. They have footballers who can actually play football, Tranmere don't. But neither do the other League One teams, yet they play like heroes.

I only switched to fully assisted in desperation, not thinking it would do anything, and now I've gone from 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-0 0-1 (0W 1D 4L) to 2-0 0-3 1-2 2-1 0-0 (2W 1D 2L). A lot more realistic and a lot less frustrating.

Now if I played Liverpool v Everton with all-assisted it would be stupid, but playing in the lower leagues, I have to - otherwise every game is the same frustrating horrible game. I'm convinced it even changes the AI of the opposition a little bit.

Online though, obviously, it's different. I'd feel like a scumbag using assisted-everything online.

(If you can get used to playing on all-manual though I'm sure that's a better game all-round - I just can't get used to it though, I've tried and I'm not accurate enough to do anything, it would take me months of practice and that's the point where I have to say "it's only a game". I want to have fun today, not in three months.)

[vondave]

manual equals a better game quite simply. better response times, and it is all more organic in terms of deflections, targeting etc.

[Coopz]

Can't say I've noticed any problems with semi-shooting either :CONF:

Assisted shooting is a load of crap though, what's the point? It basically says you can't aim yourself so you really do need the help of the CPU to get it in. If you use assisted shooting, you can't ever really complain about AI cheats because you're having to use a cheat to score yourself.

Hows it a cheat?

its basically PES's shooting and nobody moaned about the shooting in that back in the day

[DagsJT]

I won't use assisted online but do me a favour, play on semi controls, as Tranmere against Huddersfield (both in the same league) on world class, and tell me that you're not frustrated as fuck after five minutes at how they keep pushing you off the ball, pressing for 90 minutes without getting tired, and scoring goals that you can do nothing about (pinging the ball around you like Premier League players, you can't get near them). Plus, notice how your passes are underhit and intercepted all of the time, and if they're not going to be intercepted, the game will delay your reactions enough for the CPU to grab it.

And when I say "Tranmere v Huddersfield" make sure that's the game you play, because if you play Liverpool v Everton or whatever, it's a TOTALLY different game. They have footballers who can actually play football, Tranmere don't. But neither do the other League One teams, yet they play like heroes.

I only switched to fully assisted in desperation, not thinking it would do anything, and now I've gone from 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-0 0-1 (0W 1D 4L) to 2-0 0-3 1-2 2-1 0-0 (2W 1D 2L). A lot more realistic and a lot less frustrating.

Now if I played Liverpool v Everton with all-assisted it would be stupid, but playing in the lower leagues, I have to - otherwise every game is the same frustrating horrible game. I'm convinced it even changes the AI of the opposition a little bit.

(If you can get used to playing on all-manual though I'm sure that's a better game on all difficulty levels - I just can't get used to it though, I've tried and I'm not accurate enough to do anything)

How many stars are Tranmere? Playing as Las Palmas (2 1/2 stars), after three games, totalling 30 mins, I'm perfectly happy with the passing and shooting on semi :))

[DagsJT]

Hows it a cheat?

its basically PES's shooting and nobody moaned about the shooting in that back in the day

Because you have an option to use manual shooting and have the ball actually go where you want. But instead you're not even using semi for a BIT of help, you have to use assisted for a ton of help to get the ball on target.

[Chris Davies]

How many stars are Tranmere? Playing as Las Palmas (2 1/2 stars), after three games, totalling 30 mins, I'm perfectly happy with the passing and shooting on semi :))
Same, 2.5 stars - fair enough, if you're playing on world class then perhaps I'm just shite at the game... Or perhaps the style of play is different because English teams are a lot more physical, but it's too exaggerated. All I know is that on world class I couldn't play as Tranmere with semi passing - semi shooting I could score with, but semi passing just sees everything intercepted and response times delayed.

[Cammey]

I'm really falling out with this game.

World class is too unrealistic and Professional is too easy. :CURSE:

[DagsJT]

It could be due to a different style to be honest. But then I'd expect to get more time on the ball from a Spanish team than an English team, who I would expect to clatter me.

I'll try the Tranmere game later and let you know if it's any different.

[Tim7]

Because you have an option to use manual shooting and have the ball actually go where you want. But instead you're not even using semi for a BIT of help, you have to use assisted for a ton of help to get the ball on target.
So almost everyone who plays FIFA is cheating then as assisted are the default settings? :LOL:

[Trance_Allstar]

I won't expand my archery target analogy further, as I tested it out and it doesn't work. Your diagram also doesn't match what I see on-screen. Most of the outer lines are outright misses; only the inner cluster of lines are on-target, and they're so minutely outside of the neutral zone that they barely trouble the keeper.

So far the best explanation for what I've seen on-screen is my Topspin3-style analogy, where the duration of your press in the direction determines the accuracy, along with the usual other factors (player stats, position, defensive pressure, etc). Even this is unsatisfactory and produces variable results, but then so does everything else...


Well, my illustration isn't "to scale", so to speak. I was just illustrating the general idea.

Easiest thing to show how it works is to just go to the arena with a very skilled star (ronnie, Ibra, you name it).

Run with teh player and position yourself dead center from goal, just 2-3 meters outside the penalty area.

Then strike finesse shots, and vary the angle (from center) that you lean the analog stick. You will find that there is a high level of consistency from strike to strike, and you will quickly be able to approximate how far to the sides to push the analog stick for the ball to go where you want it to. I generally find that about 45 degrees to the sides (left or right) is by or just outside the post, atleast that is the approximation I can make without owning the game.

Again, this is Semi and not Manual shooting, just making sure. My shots always end up where I want them to, when I do it in the arena, standing still just outside the penalty area dead center in front of the goal.

[DagsJT]

I'd agree with that yep. I really don't see the point in assisted controls. I'm SURE you slated assisted controls during FIFA 08 too, Tim. In fact I'm positive you did. Funny how you're defending it now though, it's not "Assisted Controls Sponsored By Apple" you know ;))

Assisted shooting directs your shot for you, what's the point? Someone said earlier, it's like playing a FPS game with an aimbot. It hardly uses any skill and lets the AI do most of the work for you. Great if you want to play an interactive demo I guess ;))

[drekkard]

The most critical problem I see in the game is the same as Cammey.

Professional difficulty is great and produces the most realistic simulation of footbal I've played. But it's a bit too easy to creat chances, specially on the counter.

World class: It produces a more fustrating experience. To win you have to change the style of play and loose a bit the simulation feeling. The cheats are absurdly implemented, as last year, and make for an irritating experience all the way.

As I see it, you have to play Professional with everything set to manual and try to enjoy the experience, because World Calss turns the game into the same scripted-oriented patterns we've played the last 5 years.

What do really shock me is how can they produce such a beauty and fail to adjust the difficulty levels (and cheat implementations) in such a blatant way. If professional is 3 and World Class is 4, we all would want to play in 3.5 difficulty. Can't understand how they don't see it specially after Fifa 08 having the exact same problem...

Chris, to enjoy the game, simply play Professional and put everything tyo manual and play slow build up as you want, that's the way I can really enjoy playing 1 hour every day, because World Class ends up infuriating me. Having the CPU modify your decisions in order to balance the game is something I expected to forget in next-gen. I was so naïf...

(Even NBA2K9 has the same problem, but at least they put in a slider that you can adjust to find your perfect balance. Learn about it EA).

[iluvnineties]

So what is the final verdict here ? Is it better than PES2009 or what.

[Skylight]

World class: It produces a more fustrating experience. To win you have to change the style of play and loose a bit the simulation feeling. The cheats are absurdly implemented, as last year, and make for an irritating experience all the way.


Could you tell me more details about how yuo have to change the syle of play and what cheats are implemented?

[Placebo]

So what is the final verdict here ? Is it better than PES2009 or what.

Castration with a blunt elephant is better than PES2009.

[gameklip]

my friends are still getting it! just proof that fifa will never have a chance with a hardcore pro evo fan. the demo was awful (and admittedly so by many of my pro evo playing mates).

[brunnoce]

my friends are still getting it! just proof that fifa will never have a chance with a hardcore pro evo fan. the demo was awful (and admittedly so by many of my pro evo playing mates).

same with my m8s...they have WE gameplay printed in their DNA...no way to change it...

[Machines]

Back the to manual controls discussion, I've been playing that way for 08 and Euro. Never knew the option even existed and when I found it it was like a brand new experience. Seems far more realistic to me. I still keep shooting on semi because manual shooting is a real beast. Can't wait for 09 to get here in the States!!!

[vondave]

i just cant wait to get home and play on manual. Like ive found a whole new game. quality

[airjoca]

For you manual control guys, have you tried finding your "brothers" online this way?

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/329/img0863oh7.jpg

[liger05]

I convinced a Pro Evo fan at my work to get Fifa. His had it a week and he likes it but I have told him now to try and play with semi/manual controls and have said he needs to give it some time.

My other friend has fifa and loves it but his funny as he always tells me about the great goals from long distance his scoring and then I'm like "I've never scored 1 goal from 25 yards". I then go and tell him why I dont like Pro and how everything is assisted and his like "assisted, what the hell are you talking about"? He now understands why I have only scored once from long range in comparison to him scoring from distance every night.

[jflores]

same with my m8s...they have WE gameplay printed in their DNA...no way to change it...

LOL! we all know that for this conversion to take place, it would require divine intervention to the fullest.

Some people hate change, it's a know fact, even if it's for the better.

In the end, people will play what their hearts desire, even if that heart has been hardened to better things.

[Geefiasco]

My BAP Seasons has fucked up due to a fault/glitch in the game. Now i can't progress through the season properly.

I'm pissed off right now, I wish EA would do proper game testing to iron out glitches before releasing their titles. I seem to find a new bug every week.

[tobi]

Has anyone playing the PS3 version seen any rain because I haven't.

Its getting boring playing in daylight all the time.

[brunnoce]

LOL! we all know that for this conversion to take place, it would require divine intervention to the fullest.

Some people hate change, it's a know fact, even if it's for the better.

In the end, people will play what their hearts desire, even if that heart has been hardened to better things.

yeahp...
if hard changing people was only a problem in the video game scene, the world would be a much better place...much better!

[s33k3rgr]

yeahp...
if hard changing people was only a problem in the video game scene, the world would be a much better place...much better!


you are talking like if this game is a revolution.Is it really that good?I am asking because i havent played fifa (08, euro, 09) and i consider buying a console just for that.

[jonneymendoza]

servers are down

[Placebo]

you are talking like if this game is a revolution.Is it really that good?I am asking because i havent played fifa (08, euro, 09) and i consider buying a console just for that.

IMO if you're coming from PS2 gaming to Fifa08/Fifa09 on the 360/PS3 it truly is a revolution in football gaming, visually, aurally and especially gameplay wise.

[s33k3rgr]

IMO if you're coming from PS2 gaming to Fifa08/Fifa09 on the 360/PS3 it truly is a revolution in football gaming, visually, aurally and especially gameplay wise.

Actually i am coming from pro-evo 6 (pc) and thats it my last football game i played.

[Placebo]

Definitely a revolution then in my opinion, my last PES was 5. Fifa09 next gen is a million light years from PES.

[brunnoce]

you are talking like if this game is a revolution.Is it really that good?I am asking because i havent played fifa (08, euro, 09) and i consider buying a console just for that.


Placebo is right...
but im not gonna tell u ITS A REVOLUTION period...
i think u gotta play and see what u think..when i said that i was not tryinng to imply that people who dont play FIFA and still on PES are hard changing people...what i was saying is something like some people say they dont like fifa evan though they never tried it or given a proper chance for it, when i say proper chance i mean to play open minded, not play fifa "wanting" it to work like PES, its 2 difernt games, 2 diferent systems so u cant expect that...

[s33k3rgr]

Placebo is right...
but im not gonna tell u ITS A REVOLUTION period...
i think u gotta play and see what u think..when i said that i was not tryinng to imply that people who dont play FIFA and still on PES are hard changing people...what i was saying is something like some people say they dont like fifa evan though they never tried it or given a proper chance for it, when i say proper chance i mean to play open minded, not play fifa "wanting" it to work like PES, its 2 difernt games, 2 diferent systems so u cant expect that...

Pretty clear...

[psychstigma]

There is a lot of talk regarding manual vs semi vs assisted controls, I would like to put my 2 cents in, but can only comment on the 09 demo and 08 as I have yet to get my copy of 09 here in N.america.

Manual controls in my opinion provide an excellent gameplay experience when playing other human controlled opponents, however it gives you a major disadvantag against the CPU as they are usually spot on in their passing and ball movement across the pitch which you can only match by playing on semi/assisted (of course depending on your skill level and the difficulty level of the AI). I would hope that in future Fifa's, the game will recognize what level of controls you use and add a degree of error to the CPU controlled players....analogous to the various fitness levels that you can manually change for your opponents in the PES games, which would really make it a rewarding experience again on single player.

[footyfan]

http://www.eafootballworld.com/en_GB/video/1600652

last min winner i scored last night, god i love this game, best game since WE6FE.

[brunnoce]

psychstigma, i c what u saying...but i think assisted shooting is an huge advanteage to the user...ull see that the CPU misses 70% of their shoots , 29% they shoot in a place where ur keeper will aways save..and 1% they score lol
maybe its just me, but almost every goal the AI scored on me were headers and rebounds other than that just a few 1 on 1 sitations... and only ONCE they scored from outside the box on me, thats from almost 2 weeks of a lot of macthes, including a full manager mode season...

[quiet_riot]

When you upload a screenshot, where do you go to view it?




http://www.eafootballworld.com/en_GB/video/1600652

last min winner i scored last night, god i love this game, best game since WE6FE.

The guy who crossed it didn't look too happy! :P

[brunnoce]

http://www.eafootballworld.com/en_GB/video/1600652

last min winner i scored last night, god i love this game, best game since WE6FE.

GREAT GOAL m8!!
beautifull!

it would be better if it was cahill though :P

anyway, any idea why EA didnt give us the 3rd kit? i like that one.

[Placebo]

When you upload a screenshot, where do you go to view it?






The guy who crossed it didn't look too happy! :P

Photos are a widget you have to manually enable in your EASW profile.

[Rob92]

And following on from Placebo's post, you use this link to do that:

http://www.eafootballworld.com/en_GB/home/management

Sometimes the thing you click to add the widgets doesn't come up for me, so here's the link in case :).

[drekkard]

Could you tell me more details about how yuo have to change the syle of play and what cheats are implemented?

In World Class you have to literally charge the CPU agian and again to dispossess them, playing deffensive, pack your team and play quick counters and long balls, a very straight forward way to play. It makes for some ping pong in the midfield and it's not as nice to play as the more relaxed and slow build up, because you will have less chances.

The cheats are too obvious: CPU can dribble you to no end with any player, they will win body checks no matter the strength of the players involved, they will win a lot more of headers even if you were in position, they will make impossible long passes accurately, etc... Sometimes it's more obvious and sometimes you play a team that seems a little weaker, but all of this cheats, in some way, persist and flaw the game to me. I want FAIRNESS in games, something developers forgot time ago.

[quiet_riot]

And following on from Placebo's post, you use this link to do that:

http://www.eafootballworld.com/en_GB/home/management

Sometimes the thing you click to add the widgets doesn't come up for me, so here's the link in case :).


Thanks.

Another quick question, can you force the people in your league to use manual controls?

[Chris Davies]

Not in leagues, no. :(

[Jamezinho]

The most critical problem I see in the game is the same as Cammey.

Professional difficulty is great and produces the most realistic simulation of footbal I've played. But it's a bit too easy to creat chances, specially on the counter.

World class: It produces a more fustrating experience. To win you have to change the style of play and loose a bit the simulation feeling. The cheats are absurdly implemented, as last year, and make for an irritating experience all the way.

As I see it, you have to play Professional with everything set to manual and try to enjoy the experience, because World Calss turns the game into the same scripted-oriented patterns we've played the last 5 years.

What do really shock me is how can they produce such a beauty and fail to adjust the difficulty levels (and cheat implementations) in such a blatant way. If professional is 3 and World Class is 4, we all would want to play in 3.5 difficulty. Can't understand how they don't see it specially after Fifa 08 having the exact same problem...

Chris, to enjoy the game, simply play Professional and put everything tyo manual and play slow build up as you want, that's the way I can really enjoy playing 1 hour every day, because World Class ends up infuriating me. Having the CPU modify your decisions in order to balance the game is something I expected to forget in next-gen. I was so naïf...

(Even NBA2K9 has the same problem, but at least they put in a slider that you can adjust to find your perfect balance. Learn about it EA).

In World Class you have to literally charge the CPU agian and again to dispossess them, playing deffensive, pack your team and play quick counters and long balls, a very straight forward way to play. It makes for some ping pong in the midfield and it's not as nice to play as the more relaxed and slow build up, because you will have less chances.

The cheats are too obvious: CPU can dribble you to no end with any player, they will win body checks no matter the strength of the players involved, they will win a lot more of headers even if you were in position, they will make impossible long passes accurately, etc... Sometimes it's more obvious and sometimes you play a team that seems a little weaker, but all of this cheats, in some way, persist and flaw the game to me. I want FAIRNESS in games, something developers forgot time ago.

Couldn't agree more.:APPLAUD:

[andish2001]

Couldn't agree more.:APPLAUD:

Yep me too. I ended up playing on pro difficulty regularly because i just get too frustrated on world class - i can win every game - but every goal is just either a counterattack or mistake by the CB and my striker finishes 1v1.

[imothop]

The cheats are too obvious: CPU can dribble you to no end with any player, they will win body checks no matter the strength of the players involved, they will win a lot more of headers even if you were in position, they will make impossible long passes accurately, etc...


Yes you are so right, CPU cheating is getting on my nerves now too. Playing defense is sometimes just impossible (CPU sometimes scores at will).


And i really cant stand any post shots any longer. Jesus, sometimes you got 4-5 post shots in one single Match. And the through ball Bug is killing me more an more.

And Shooting (SEMI) inside and outside the box is so different. Im in the box, just tap the shooting button and sometimes it goes way over the bar (clean shot, no one near me)- im outside the box tap the button and it is a flat shoot. come on, that is just shit. It is scripted, just like hitting the post all the time.

Im frustrated now. It seems playing the CPU is awful like ever - same old boring scripting and cheating. I need a break from Fifa09.

[jflores]

Can anyone give me PS3/360 comparison? Do they look identical graphics wise, lighting, textures etc..

I would like to see this comparison in the Fifasoccerblog site.

Some people say they both like the same, however the pics and movies I've seen show the PS3 version with crispier graphics. Or perhaps it's my eyes.

[StayingPower]

I get this game tomorrow, so excited. And we're taking the PSAT tomorrow which means no homework. And I'm injured so I won't be going to soccer practice.

All this means an epic Fifa 09 session tomorrow.

[Chris Davies]

As Tranmere on world class, just played Walsall - they were down to nine men by half time, and they still beat me 2-0. Because of the huge amount of pressing that they do, it was as if they had 19 men, never mind 9.

Got to admit that playing against the CPU is really fucked up, as a lower-league team at least. I find no fun in sticking it on professional and winning every game 3-0, I find no fun in sticking it on world class and getting shafted by an evenly-matched team week in week out. So playing as the team I support I have no fun, great...

Playing as an average Premier League team (on any difficulty) it's a totally different game, much more realistic and much more enjoyable. But I don't want to start at the top, that defeats the purpose of the mode; after nearly completing a season I think I'm giving manager mode a rest now. BAP Seasons next.

[Placebo]

I find no fun in sticking it on professional and winning every game 3-0, I find no fun in sticking it on world class and getting shafted by an evenly-matched team week in week out. So playing as the team I support I have no fun, great...

You're either a better gamer than me or you don't do what I do and combine Professional with all manual controls for the best Fifa offline experience :)

[Tim7]

I'd agree with that yep. I really don't see the point in assisted controls. I'm SURE you slated assisted controls during FIFA 08 too, Tim. In fact I'm positive you did.
Which just goes to show how much they've buggered it up this time. They've given the whole shooting a revamp, and for me, it's now no fun to play and create chances, then just have them baloon over the bar or go miles wide.

[Placebo]

But that's football Tim, watch a match of even Prem quality and you'll see plenty of great chances created only to be hit high or wide or mishit and trickle into the keeper's arms. And TBH as mentioned since discovering the "double tap" method I seldom miss the goal by more than a yard or so.

[Tim7]

There are also a good number of shots that are on target and produce good saves ;)).

Depending on what time I get home tonight I will put my shooting back to semi and give it another go then.

[vglntv95]

I'm not sure if this is a discovery of sorts but I found and pretty much confirmed yesterday that holding the "steady" (LT/L2) button before shooting on semi makes a massive difference to accuracy, in any situation but especially one on ones. In fact some of the shooting you can do with it is so accurate it actually appears assisted, although in an actual game situation it's incredibly hard to get the button combinations and aim properly at the same time.

[Tom]

And TBH as mentioned since discovering the "double tap" method I seldom miss the goal by more than a yard or so.

I could have missed it, but what precisely is the "double tap method"?

[DagsJT]

Which just goes to show how much they've buggered it up this time. They've given the whole shooting a revamp, and for me, it's now no fun to play and create chances, then just have them baloon over the bar or go miles wide.

You're just crap at shooting mate ;))

Nah, that's fair enough I suppose. I do notice that balls tend to balloon over the bar LOADS while I'm in the arena especially.

[Placebo]

I'm not sure if this is a discovery of sorts but I found and pretty much confirmed yesterday that holding the "steady" (LT/L2) button before shooting on semi makes a massive difference to accuracy, in any situation but especially one on ones. In fact some of the shooting you can do with it is so accurate it actually appears assisted, although in an actual game situation it's incredibly hard to get the button combinations and aim properly at the same time.

Yeah that's pretty common knowledge, gets mentioned from time to time in here, but good to have it mentioned again every few days as there's a steady trickle of PES refugees wandering in here looking for a good football game ;))

I could have missed it, but what precisely is the "double tap method"?

Basically when you want to shoot double tap the shoot button to ensure a short press of shoot, especially good for using lesser players (for example I'm playing with Grimsby and have no players with an overall above 70). We were talking about it yesterday from here (http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1473511&postcount=8282)down :))

[proxi]

I think it's spot on. Placebo was right regarding real life's similarities, however I've not yet experienced this double tap shiznit. I have around 15-25 shots every match offline and I'm a waster of many, however for every 10 shots from outside the box I sky or hit wide, I'll get one or two hit the woodwork, get tipped round the post or even go in.

It's good enough for me. When I get frustrated with it I just prepare a better shooting stance next time, the shot is then better and I'm reminded I must have lowered my quality earlier on.

[DagsJT]

Got to say I'm starting to feel FIFA is getting repetative now. Maybe I've just hammered the game too much in such a short space of time though ...

[Tom]

Basically when you want to shoot double tap the shoot button to ensure a short press of shoot, especially good for using lesser players (for example I'm playing with Grimsby and have no players with an overall above 70). We were talking about it yesterday from here (http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1473511&postcount=8282)down :))

Ah, cheers for that, I'll give it a whirl next time then :)

[Placebo]

New update from David Rutter:

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/5935084-post1217.html

WOW!

So I've been out of the office in Sunny Mexico meeting some of the press and fans there in advance of launch and I see things have hotted up here too!

Same message as before at the moment...

We're looking at stuff and will get back to you when we know what we might or might not be able to do.

At the moment the 'stuff' we're looking at is...

Bad defending/attacking where the guy turns sideways.
MM re-numbering.
Spanish league Live Seasons problems.
Problem in polish stadia breaking frame rate.
8 players in tournament mode.
Advantage rule.

NOTE - we're not necessarily going to be able to release a 'patch' for all of these things - but we're looking into it at the moment.

Again - please be patient...I'll let you know whats going on when I get the nod myself.

Cheers

D

I'll be very disappointed if that's all they fix to be honest, there's a huuuuuuuuuuuuuge amount of bugs/glitches in Fifa09, it's a good game but too many issues are stopping it from being a great game IMHO.

[DagsJT]

Good to see they're acknowledging those problems though.

[Placebo]

Advantage rule obviously is an annoying thing that needs fixing, not sure why it only says Polish stadia, there's lag/slowdown in a number of other stadia as far as I'm aware, seen it for myself in the "Town Park" one when the GK throws/kicks the ball to the centre circle.

[rivaldinho]

Played with a friend yesterday not a bad game certainly better than 08 but one thing kept pissing me off was that everytime my friend would foul me the advantage icon would come up and i move about 10 yards the ref would bring it back for a free kick.

[proxi]

Glad to see problems 1 & 6 on the list there, they are what annoy me the most at the moment about the general AI. Two other things are what annoy me but probably can't be fixed bar some miracle.

Playing against online accumulations of cockbroth. And the lag, also online obviously.

[Super Quinninho]

Been playing it since release day and I am very impressed.

It is the football game I thought PES would eventually turn into next-gen, if they release a patch for the sideways turn problem then I cant really find any other faults with it apart from the fact they took out the multi-player BAP season like you could do in Euro 2008 (i.e. have more than one player being tracked at once competing for captaincy).

Heading is great, shooting is realistic, tackling is good and I feel I have lots of control over defending unlike many old FIFA games.

Had some great 0-0 draws which became increasingly rare in recent PES games.

[wan_d7]

i don't like the rating system in the BAP. they deduct it so quickly,especially for the position. it makes me press the sprint all the time to go to a safe place where the rating wont be deducted. sucks..

[brunnoce]

Advantage rule obviously is an annoying thing that needs fixing, not sure why it only says Polish stadia, there's lag/slowdown in a number of other stadia as far as I'm aware, seen it for myself in the "Town Park" one when the GK throws/kicks the ball to the centre circle.

paul, i think he means the issue in that maj23 stadium that i told u about on the ps3...its just UNPLAYABLE....
i know there are other stadiums with little framerate drops, but that one is unplayable...100%

[Placebo]

Well no stadium should have frame rate drops, no matter how little or not IMO.

[wan_d7]

what does :triangle: does in BAP? and what type of camera did you guys use for BAP?

[Skylight]

In World Class you have to literally charge the CPU agian and again to dispossess them, playing deffensive, pack your team and play quick counters and long balls, a very straight forward way to play. It makes for some ping pong in the midfield and it's not as nice to play as the more relaxed and slow build up, because you will have less chances.

The cheats are too obvious: CPU can dribble you to no end with any player, they will win body checks no matter the strength of the players involved, they will win a lot more of headers even if you were in position, they will make impossible long passes accurately, etc... Sometimes it's more obvious and sometimes you play a team that seems a little weaker, but all of this cheats, in some way, persist and flaw the game to me. I want FAIRNESS in games, something developers forgot time ago.

thanks for pointing that out to me

i am at the moment playing on professional with shooting, cross and passing on semi, rest is manual

i go with placebo, and if that will be too easy for me in the future i will go back to all manual
really a great experience

unfortunately you have to adapt for playing online :((

[DagsJT]

what does :triangle: does in BAP? and what type of camera did you guys use for BAP?

Triangle asks for a through-ball.

I use Tele cam, I think most do.

[YoungGun_UK]

The list is pretty good, The only thing which for me is missing is when you cross with a winger or in a crossing position and you get a "-Pass", Other people have had issues where they get random -'s aswell. Other than that if they fix all that then im happy.

[Ogami]

Hey thanks Placebo, your double tap method is pretty good for one on ones. I was playing with PSG against United and won 3 - 2. I took all the chances I had using this (playing in semi).

[tobi]

What about the through ball bug? That is more important than 8 players in tournament mode, disappointing.

[Placebo]

No worries, it's almost too good IMO it feels a bit like an exploit, I try not to use it too much. I might try changing to manual shooting instead of semi, then no matter if I use double tap or not I'm responsible for the direction 100% :)

[quiet_riot]

They need to add support for online matches using semi-controls too.

[Ogami]

You know, I never really cared if my opponents used assisted passes. I do think people using manual or semi controls have an advantage over them, especially when using through balls.

Assisted shots however really annoy me, simply because it's almost an automatic goal when you're in a one on one situation (except if the opponent shoots right in the middle where the keeper can catch it easily). It just forces me to not miss my chances, which is not always easy on semi.

[wan_d7]

tele? for BAP? And the -defence also annoying. i dunno why i do happen :-S

[brunnoce]

They need to add support for online matches using semi-controls too.

thats a must!

[Placebo]

What about the through ball bug? That is more important than 8 players in tournament mode, disappointing.

I'm guessing that's covered in "Bad defending/attacking where the guy turns sideways." I've never had the through ball bug myself, what settings do you use for your throughballs? I use manual and what I'm seeing a lot is manual = no through ball bug (or almost none).

[wan_d7]

oh shit...how to ask a cross? i've just press the :square: and i've been sent off for the challenge. i thought it's for the cross call button :(

[vglntv95]

They need to add support for online matches using semi-controls too.

Bit annoyed not to see that in Rutter's list. But I'm not really surprised as not enough people are moaning about it. Mainly because most people don't even seem to know it exists!

[Rob92]

oh shit...how to ask a cross? i've just press the :square: and i've been sent off for the challenge. i thought it's for the cross call button :(I think you just have to press the pass button, and hope the winger crosses it instead of trying a pass along the ground.

I've tackled the wrong guy a few times and got red cards for it - the slide tackles seem to "lock on" to a player, and if they lock onto the wrong one then you are fucked :PP.

[wan_d7]

oh that's a fuck...somemore it's hard to maintain the point when it keep deduct the position point everywhere. but the game is nice. i stuck onto my chair since the afternoon till now.

[Murkurial]

New update from David Rutter:

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/5935084-post1217.html



I'll be very disappointed if that's all they fix to be honest, there's a huuuuuuuuuuuuuge amount of bugs/glitches in Fifa09, it's a good game but too many issues are stopping it from being a great game IMHO.

What's funny is that they apparently might not even be able to fix everything that they've mentioned in that small bug list.

[Erik]

I finally picked up my copy in the US - too bad I work all day and cn't get to it until late tonight...

Will post my thoughts from a yank perspective when I get into the game.

[quiet_riot]

Sick of getting owned online by people obviously using all assisted controls. :YAWN:

[BwA Spectre]

From IGN:

9.0 Gameplay
The best pure soccer around. Pro Evolution Soccer is going to need to throw the kitchen sink at this one.

[tonikboy]

guys, how can i change number in career mode?

[tonikboy]

i mean a number on the shirt of a player.

[k_19]

Finally got the game here in Canada, and I am loving it. I put it on all semi/manual controls right away (pass/shooting on semi and everything else on manual) and I am getting very realistic results in the World Class level. I'm not sure if it is just me, but the semi controls seemed to have become more accurate (in the demo, it almost felt like it was on manual at times)... I'm getting more shots on targets than I used to get in the demo, and I'm getting less errant passes. Semi seems about just right at the moment. Tried a game online and it's sickening how most people are playing on assisted controls... I guess I will try to search players on full manual (it'll be harder for me, but at least it'll be much better than full auto) and hope that I'll get a good game. Will try the be a pro later on but for now I'll stick to MM.

[k_19]

guys, how can i change number in career mode?

i mean a number on the shirt of a player.

You can't as of now. There is a possibility of a patch coming up that will fix this issue but don't count on it.

[Kallinn]

When u play with "full" manual controls, do u then play with Semi shooting or manual shooting?

[brunnoce]

I'm guessing that's covered in "Bad defending/attacking where the guy turns sideways." I've never had the through ball bug myself, what settings do you use for your throughballs? I use manual and what I'm seeing a lot is manual = no through ball bug (or almost none).

i only see this bug on lobbed(high) throughballs, on regular ground through balls i have never seen it.

[jflores]

Got the game today and I have to say, either I'm crazy or both versions are a bit different from each other. PS3 version has nicer looking pitches than 360 such as Old Trafford pitch. Also, the game plays a bit different on PS3 than 360. Ball physics and gameplay on PS3 feels like thr 360 Demo version which I liked. 360's gameplay is not the same as the Demo I played for thousands of times, however it is still very realistic and fun.

Those are my takes on both versions. I would go with the PS3 version if it wasn't for the PS3 controller. I am so used to using the 360 controller and it just feels perfect in my hand for Fifa.

[Machines]

When u play with "full" manual controls, do u then play with Semi shooting or manual shooting?

I always use "semi" on shooting. Manual for everything else.

[StayingPower]

I use assisted shooting, passing, and through balls, semi crossing, and manual long passes.

Got the game today and it's a lot of fun.

[BumperMan]

how is the snow? the rain? weather effects? breathing in cold weather? adboards? pitches getting dirty?

I think it's about time that we saw good weather effects now after giving EA 2 years to make the gameplay solid with the new engine

[TheWolf]

Got the game today also. Playing with everything on manual which is a challenge but once you get used to it at the lower difficulty levels it's amazing the total freedom you have. Offline, the game is as close to perfection as I've seen so far in a football game. Played 5 hours so far today and counting...

PES can go arrange a date with itself and try for it's own lovechild for all I care.

[Machines]

Finally got this game today and all I have to say at this point is "wow." There seems to be some marked improvement from where the demo build was at. Things definitely feel much smoother and more solid than the demo that was on the PSN.

What absolutely amazes me about this game is that you feel like you're watching a real match. The reactions of the players to the decisions you make, the calling for passes, applauding or getting upset with a cross into the box. It's all quite fantastic.

The reaction time of the controls seems to be right on the money as well. I love how there is no longer a delay when telling your goalkeeper what to do with the ball. The decision is just as immediate as if it were any other player on the pitch.

The refereeing so far has been pretty good too. No longer can I get away with the reckless tackles I could in 08. I found that out the hard way in my second MM match against Stoke when Drogba got sent off with a red card for a challenge from behind, something I just used to do for giggles in 08 because I knew I could get away with it. That's definitely refreshing.

The addition of the referee and linesmen just adds another layer of realism to the game. I dig that I can change the languages on the fly this year without having to set the global language of my PS3. Very cool.

The only complaint I have so far is a minor one. I love the soundtracks for FIFA every year, but this year it seems abnormally quiet in all the menus and in the arena. And when you get to hear music post-match it has arena reverb slapped all over it.

I've only spent a few hours with it so far but to this point it's the best sports game I've ever played. That honor was previously held by NHL 09 but FIFA 09 just barely surpasses it.

I don't have a lot of FIFA players on my PSN friends list, so if you're out there, shoot me a friend request. Machines is my PSN ID.

[Skylight]

played an unranked match yesterday witch the hope that i don't have to face a ManU kiddie.
opponent chose Bayern Munich, but when starting i noticed, that not the online rosters, but my local ones have been loaded (from MM?)
same happened to the other guy
he had no the regular Bayern Munich, but Ronaldo, Messi, Henry,...
what a great game :((

[Skylight]

by the way:
after updating Live Season yesterday I noticed, that only the stats have been changed, rosters stayed the way i put them
can anybody confirm this?

[tobi]

I'm guessing that's covered in "Bad defending/attacking where the guy turns sideways." I've never had the through ball bug myself, what settings do you use for your throughballs? I use manual and what I'm seeing a lot is manual = no through ball bug (or almost none).

I use manual through balls also, its 50/50, sometimes the player reacts fine but other times he'll stop then turn around and the chance is gone.

In all my games whenever I get a FK from a cossing position the player that I've selected to take the FK is never the player who actually takes it.

If the FK is on the left then Moretti will take it, if its on the right then Miguel will take it. In the menu Baraja and Silva are taking the FK's but in the game my full backs are taking it. is this happening to anyone else?

Also my wingplay is really bad, I've Joaquin on the RW and Vicente on the bench yet I hardly get any joy with them, any tips?

[wan_d7]

after starting a BAP season,can i change the player appearance?like change the glove cuz i choose it before but to only realize i will wear it permanently :D

[Gunners`]

crossing in assisted mode is so so so poor you cant cross the ball to your CFs mates when they are in the box the ball will curve most of time out the box even if i just tap the cross button ... so is there any help out there i tried the manual mode but its so hard from me .. also when the ball comes to my players from a cross or high ball i want him to use his leg to shoot but he always goes with the head and it will go weak to the keeper so any help too thanks alot

[Gunners`]

after starting a BAP season,can i change the player appearance?like change the glove cuz i choose it before but to only realize i will wear it permanently :D

am afraid you can not .. its not possible to change any player appearance after starting a BAP mode or MM :BLEH:

[Gunners`]

I use manual through balls also, its 50/50, sometimes the player reacts fine but other times he'll stop then turn around and the chance is gone.

In all my games whenever I get a FK from a cossing position the player that I've selected to take the FK is never the player who actually takes it.

If the FK is on the left then Moretti will take it, if its on the right then Miguel will take it. In the menu Baraja and Silva are taking the FK's but in the game my full backs are taking it. is this happening to anyone else?

Also my wingplay is really bad, I've Joaquin on the RW and Vicente on the bench yet I hardly get any joy with them, any tips?


sbout the through passes with manual control i really dont use manual control so i dont know and i dont face this bug with assisted .. also about the freekicks takers i dont face any bug too .. but about your wings i faced this problem before so i tried to use the costum tactics mode it help me alot .. try to edit wings postions and keep them low in covering back and high in attacking thats what work for me and keep the arrows in attack mode i hope that will help you

[RicKs]

Is there a way to save replays locally?

[luke909]

no

[wan_d7]

i hate the rating system..arghh..keep deduct me for being off position to be high on the pitch even though i'm an AM. and why in the final minute when my team are winning,they put me as the CB? even i'm a Midfielder. weird. dunno if its a bug

[*** Nomis1 ***]

Ive just seen and played my first game in the snow. I must admit i find it really off putting to play in tbh. I almost wish that they dont fix this issue now!.

[DagsJT]

i hate the rating system..arghh..keep deduct me for being off position to be high on the pitch even though i'm an AM. and why in the final minute when my team are winning,they put me as the CB? even i'm a Midfielder. weird. dunno if its a bug

Your manager is defending the lead, certainly not a bug and pretty realistic.

[jflores]

A little comparison here from playing a both versions all day yesterday.

Firstable, on the PS3 version my game froze 2 times. Hasn't happened ever since though. Again, gameplay is a bit different on both console versions. I find this strange but good at the same time. Xbox360 versions gameplay feels tighter. Shooting even feels a bit more tweaked on 360 than PS3. Players turning on an angle while running feel tighter on 360, as well as player responsiveness which also feels a lot tighter. C. Ronaldo feels a bit heavier on 360 than PS3. His getaway speed and quickness feels different on PS3, He seems faster and can blow by anyone easier. On 360 however this is not the case as he feels a bit heavier and his acceleration feels a bit slower. Graphics are different on both versions as well. PS3's graphics appear a bit blurry, however some of the pitches(Old Trafford)look better than they do on 360. Overall graphically the 360 looks much sharper and crispier. Players just have that crispiness and brighter colors on 360 than PS3. Ball physics also feels different on both versions. I can't quiet put my finger on it, but the ball just feels heavier on 360 than PS3. I find all this diferences very interesting since we all assumed that they are both identical in every way. I am not exagerating here, they both feel different, however in a positive way.

If anyone else sees this difference, please confirm. That way I know I'm not going crazy.

[wan_d7]

and i notice on the shirt,there's a number on their front shirt.like the international team. right now i only play with EPL team so dunno other league.

[wan_d7]

Your manager is defending the lead, certainly not a bug and pretty realistic.

but i'm an attacking player. he suppose to put like Essien or other as CB.it is realistic if he sub me with a defender. not giving his striker as the CB, and to protect a 3 goal like that is not necessary

[brunnoce]

A little comparison here from playing a both versions all day yesterday.

Firstable, on the PS3 version my game froze 2 times. Hasn't happened ever since though. Again, gameplay is a bit different on both console versions. I find this strange but good at the same time. Xbox360 versions gameplay feels tighter. Shooting even feels a bit more tweaked on 360 than PS3. Players turning on an angle while running feel tighter on 360, as well as player responsiveness which also feels a lot tighter. C. Ronaldo feels a bit heavier on 360 than PS3. His getaway speed and quickness feels different on PS3, He seems faster and can blow by anyone easier. On 360 however this is not the case as he feels a bit heavier and his acceleration feels a bit slower. Graphics are different on both versions as well. PS3's graphics appear a bit blurry, however some of the pitches(Old Trafford)look better than they do on 360. Overall graphically the 360 looks much sharper and crispier. Players just have that crispiness and brighter colors on 360 than PS3. Ball physics also feels different on both versions. I can't quiet put my finger on it, but the ball just feels heavier on 360 than PS3. I find all this diferences very interesting since we all assumed that they are both identical in every way. I am not exagerating here, they both feel different, however in a positive way.

If anyone else sees this difference, please confirm. That way I know I'm not going crazy.


i think all this gameplay differences u are noticing are due to the diferent Controllers...
i played the 360 version yesterday, felt a bit different like u mentioned...but mostly becasue of the controller...
the grafics cant be really compared unless ure running both game on the same exact set up and TV(hdmi, etc)

[liger05]

A little comparison here from playing a both versions all day yesterday.

Firstable, on the PS3 version my game froze 2 times. Hasn't happened ever since though. Again, gameplay is a bit different on both console versions. I find this strange but good at the same time. Xbox360 versions gameplay feels tighter. Shooting even feels a bit more tweaked on 360 than PS3. Players turning on an angle while running feel tighter on 360, as well as player responsiveness which also feels a lot tighter. C. Ronaldo feels a bit heavier on 360 than PS3. His getaway speed and quickness feels different on PS3, He seems faster and can blow by anyone easier. On 360 however this is not the case as he feels a bit heavier and his acceleration feels a bit slower. Graphics are different on both versions as well. PS3's graphics appear a bit blurry, however some of the pitches(Old Trafford)look better than they do on 360. Overall graphically the 360 looks much sharper and crispier. Players just have that crispiness and brighter colors on 360 than PS3. Ball physics also feels different on both versions. I can't quiet put my finger on it, but the ball just feels heavier on 360 than PS3. I find all this diferences very interesting since we all assumed that they are both identical in every way. I am not exagerating here, they both feel different, however in a positive way.

If anyone else sees this difference, please confirm. That way I know I'm not going crazy.

Was in my barbershop yesterday and I wanted to see what Fifa looked like on the PS3. It froze straight away once a match started.

[janneblaffa]

IMO the best option is to change to all manual controls instead of upping to legendary, game is harder due to your ability with a controller that way rather than by means of AI cheating....
It´s to easy to defend on the lower difficulty. Legendary or worldclass is a must or else the game is sooo easy

[SilverSpider]

Still getting to grips with this game as I'm a convert after only ever playing PES/WE since '98, I stopped playing the series after WE9/PES5 when it seemed to just be the same thing again each year.

FIFA 09 is far from perfect but I'm enjoying it and after the PES2009 demo I feel FIFA is the best choice available for now by some distance too.


I have a quick question if I may ...

I want to be able to play a friend over Live but be able to decide on the options like stadium and time of day and such after EACH game.

At the moment I'm using "Play a Friend" option and it just puts you at the default stadium of the home team and chooses the time of day for you.

Is there any option or workaround for this as I'm new to the mass of FIFA menus.

Thanks Guys.

[Machines]

Playing on PS3 and haven't had any freezing issues at all.

And I agree with Brunnoce that the controller difference is what is creating the perception of gameplay difference. The code is the same.

[jflores]

i think all this gameplay differences u are noticing are due to the diferent Controllers...
i played the 360 version yesterday, felt a bit different like u mentioned...but mostly becasue of the controller...
the grafics cant be really compared unless ure running both game on the same exact set up and TV(hdmi, etc)

Graphics were compared running both game on the exact set up and TV with HDMI.

Frankly for me, the game feels like two different versions on both consoles. I like both in terms of gameplay, but since I played the 360 demo version thousands of times, I find myself playing the PS3 version more since it's gameplay is almost identical to the 360 demo version.

The 360 version's gameplay although different, is a beast of it's own.

[Rob92]

Still getting to grips with this game as I'm a convert after only ever playing PES/WE since '98, I stopped playing the series after WE9/PES5 when it seemed to just be the same thing again each year.

FIFA 09 is far from perfect but I'm enjoying it and after the PES2009 demo I feel FIFA is the best choice available for now by some distance too.


I have a quick question if I may ...

I want to be able to play a friend over Live but be able to decide on the options like stadium and time of day and such after EACH game.

At the moment I'm using "Play a Friend" option and it just puts you at the default stadium of the home team and chooses the time of day for you.

Is there any option or workaround for this as I'm new to the mass of FIFA menus.

Thanks Guys.Main Menu > Xbox Live > Online Game Modes > FIFA 09 Match Creation > Head to Head Play > Create Match > Create Unranked Session.

Make sure you switch "Private Session" to "Yes", and then you can change whichever settings you like, then invite your friend :).

It's quite long winded really and should be easier/quicker to do.

[stuartyd]

Still getting to grips with this game as I'm a convert after only ever playing PES/WE since '98, I stopped playing the series after WE9/PES5 when it seemed to just be the same thing again each year.

FIFA 09 is far from perfect but I'm enjoying it and after the PES2009 demo I feel FIFA is the best choice available for now by some distance too.


I have a quick question if I may ...

I want to be able to play a friend over Live but be able to decide on the options like stadium and time of day and such after EACH game.

At the moment I'm using "Play a Friend" option and it just puts you at the default stadium of the home team and chooses the time of day for you.

Is there any option or workaround for this as I'm new to the mass of FIFA menus.

Thanks Guys.

you need to create an un ranked match and set it to private. u can choose stadium and length of match but not day or night

[SilverSpider]

Cheers Rob92 & stuartdunlop, appreciate your quick replies.

Thanks again lads.

[stilts1844]

So fifa FINALLY came out in America... having to listen to you guys talk about it for weeks has been miserable. First off I'm amazed how much the game has changed from the demo. I was really starting to get down on the demo and was wondering how much I would love this game but so far it has blown me away. A few things that have struck me are: even more improved reaction times, WEIGHTIER balls, on both shots and long passes (long passes were so floaty in the demo it was horrible), and its actually FUN to play the computer on world class! In the demo it didnt matter what team you were playing really, toronto FC were almost as good as any other ( a la fifa 08) NOW, for example, I played man city with man U and won 1-0 but controlled the game and it was never really in doubt, went on to play arsenal and lost 3-1! And I've tried this with many different teams, playing against weaker and stronger teams and it always makes a differences... so I'm thrilled. custom tactics are brilliant and i love how u can set arrows AND work rate on offense and defense.

A few notable omissions though... what happened to player traits? It's a shame they took these out, they even removed a player's weak foot accuracy rating! so if, say, zidane were in the game his weak foot acc would be as good as say, adriano's? seems silly and i dont know why they would get rid of it. also.... where are teams like the ivory coast? nigeria? cameroon? oh well. I look forward to some games with u guys

(also i forgot to mention, what happened to the 'hold L and R strafe facing goal???)

[Placebo]

A few notable omissions though... what happened to player traits? It's a shame they took these out, they even removed a player's weak foot accuracy rating! so if, say, zidane were in the game his weak foot acc would be as good as say, adriano's? seems silly and i dont know why they would get rid of it. also....

Traits are still there just hidden now. Weak foot rating is also still there, and viewable for your own players in the section where you increase your players using experience points.

[wan_d7]

oh no...this is pretty sucks and spoil.. i just on my 2nd season of BAP. play the 1st with Chelsea, i i've choose no. 7. now i'vebeen transfered to Bayern,and my jersey is 7, but ribery also wearing the same no. and there's 2 player now wearing the no. 7,me and ribery. Can i fix this?? :(

[hitmanuk]

ive finally changed my controls to manual but left shooting on semi. The game is definately more fluid like this and you have more options as you can pass in front of a player into space rarther than always to ffet, Crossing is very hard to achieve tho and always seems to bend away..not sure what im doing wrong..1st match on proffesional level i lost 2-1 but missed a sitter at the end..scoring is a lot more satisfying

[AgentSmithMatrix]

Quick question. Say you're editing your formation and you wanna change the custom tactics too, do you have to save them both separately?

I find saving your own file difficult and you can't really customize that many your own way because you end up having to overwrite an older one.

[StayingPower]

I'm having a lot of fun on World Class with everything assisted except through balls and crosses.

I beat River Plate with Boca Juniors 2-0 and then lost 1-0 to Arsenal with Man United, both were good games with no evidence of CPU cheats.

[Damo7]

Im still having no luck with getting my avatar to show on my game that I made. Have saved it to the PS3 part of Football world but still no luck. Can any one else who has done this on the PS3 advise me what i need to do. Cheers

[Machines]

Im still having no luck with getting my avatar to show on my game that I made. Have saved it to the PS3 part of Football world but still no luck. Can any one else who has done this on the PS3 advise me what i need to do. Cheers

You need to make sure you save it to the appropriate game. If you have several games in your EA profile you can have a separate avatar for each one.

[Yana]

Im still having no luck with getting my avatar to show on my game that I made. Have saved it to the PS3 part of Football world but still no luck. Can any one else who has done this on the PS3 advise me what i need to do. Cheers
Wouldn't work on Footballworld for me, however it does on Sportsworld

[stilts1844]

Thanks Placebo! But why do they hide these things now when they were easily accessible before? weird.

[gameklip]

I'm having a lot of fun on World Class with everything assisted except through balls and crosses.

I beat River Plate with Boca Juniors 2-0 and then lost 1-0 to Arsenal with Man United, both were good games with no evidence of CPU cheats.

yeh i hen't posted in a while case i'm addicted to management mode and be a pro on and offline :lol:

in my first season with barca and have signed fabregas (dunno why but he's been on the transfer list twice in two management modes) as well as David Villa and DeRossi. so awesome.

i've had some tight old game where i've been passing as i'm thinking of the next move. so quick.
it' one-touch through my whole team. I've been tweaking custom tactics and the best form of defence for me i to attack (offence) and fast passing with risky passes in the final third and cut back crosses (minimal in the actual box).
works a treat and looks amazing. you have to see some of these moves to believe.

EA need to make replays longer for christsake!

[stilts1844]

ummm.... is there any logical explanation as to why there is no longer man marking online????????? wtf???? am i missing something?

[Murkurial]

ummm.... is there any logical explanation as to why there is no longer man marking online????????? wtf???? am i missing something?

It's going to be a new feature in FIFA 2010 (I know that's been used to death but I couldn't resist). Seriously though if that's been left out for some reason it's just another in a long list of incredibly inexplicable omissions. There is so much stuff in this game that I am genuinely left scratching my head about. This is not a new engine, they have tons of disc space left with which to add these things, and I really don't think that there is any logical explanation for it. Sure there's the requisite bullshit answer, like their response to the missing kit number editing feature. It was something to the effect of, and this isn't an exact quote, but "we've determined (through the power of magic because there's no way that we could possibly do this with a feature that doesn't actually record anything online) that not very many people use this feature and because it is also fairly expensive to maintain, we've opted not to include it in this iteration of the game."

I guess someone could better explain how in a Manager Mode that already has less than what is actually available in the last-gen versions of the game, they could find something to take out even after hearing all the calls for fleshing the mode out.

I type way too much though so that's the end of my rant.

EDIT: I actually made the point about them purposely leaving shit out to tout it as a new feature in the next game to a friend of mine and he made the point that I might be overestimating the intelligence of many of the EA team. I'm inclined to agree. Maybe they should scour these boards and offer all of us QA testing jobs. Because whatever 10 year-old little kids, or 50 year-old dudes that they're recruiting to give feedback on the game, clearly don't know much about the sport.

[Lami]

EDIT: Sorted.

[wan_d7]

yes another nice bug. i'm currently the captain of the denmark national team. before this game against south africa,i wanna set up my team formation and i saw i was not in the team. i was replace by jorgenson or something like that. and i see my player in the sub so i wanna sub him in. but when i choose that jorgesen,and select my player it say, "you've been trusted by the coach to play bla bla". and when i start the game i need to control the jorgensen. and when i want to sub him out i can't cuz i need to request sub and when i do the game end. and my real player didn't play at all and get 3.0 rating. Thanks EA!

[Tim7]

There are so many bugs in this game it's unbelievable.

[evacuate]

Scored a nice goal in my BAPS but I can't upload it says the service is unavailable, anyone knows if it is any use in keep trying or should you just give up when it says that? Fucking pisses me off this stupid replay shit.

[stilts1844]

I mean, I understand when things are left out from last gen to this gen, it seems it's not as easy as we think to bring everything across from old to new platforms (same thing happens in madden etc.. and developers always talk about bringing features they were not able to "get to" yet). But the what's even worse is you could use man marking online in Euro, so they had to physically remove it...that's what i dont get. oh well. a few missing things aside, I am loving this game. But it might help if I could man mark Torres when he's running rampant on me (everyone seems to choose man u or liverpool these days, sigh)

[wan_d7]

almost every shot the keeper will save it,not only parry it but catch the ball pretty easy. annoying to see the keeper catch it pretty easy. cuz i think i shot a pretty hard ball. bug bug

[evacuate]

I personally really like the keepers in 09. Not perfect but a mile better than 08/Euro to me. Only a couple of times when I thought the keeper was retarded, often when not getting up quick enough. So to me the keepers is one of the areas that EA has done really well this year.

[quiet_riot]

When using manual crosses, do you still have to hold L1 to deliver it earlier than the 18 yard box?

[brunnoce]

I personally really like the keepers in 09. Not perfect but a mile better than 08/Euro to me. Only a couple of times when I thought the keeper was retarded, often when not getting up quick enough. So to me the keepers is one of the areas that EA has done really well this year.


yeh i agree with u....
the gk were my biggest problem with euro too...
the AI is a lot improved now, a lot more human.

[evacuate]

When using manual crosses, do you still have to hold L1 to deliver it earlier than the 18 yard box?

Only if you want to use the double and tripple tap of the cross button. You still have to aim it where you want it though.

[Rodelero]

I mean, I understand when things are left out from last gen to this gen, it seems it's not as easy as we think to bring everything across from old to new platforms (same thing happens in madden etc.. and developers always talk about bringing features they were not able to "get to" yet). But the what's even worse is you could use man marking online in Euro, so they had to physically remove it...that's what i dont get. oh well. a few missing things aside, I am loving this game. But it might help if I could man mark Torres when he's running rampant on me (everyone seems to choose man u or liverpool these days, sigh)

The man marking really isn't the problem, it's just a flaw with the way players deal with the ball when its being passed.

Basically, you need to start running a second before the through ball is played (ie anticipate) to get to it before Torres/Henry/Ronaldo, et cetera.

[Trance_Allstar]

I personally really like the keepers in 09. Not perfect but a mile better than 08/Euro to me. Only a couple of times when I thought the keeper was retarded, often when not getting up quick enough. So to me the keepers is one of the areas that EA has done really well this year.


I agree completely.

BUT, my real pet peeve is still present quite alot, which is goalkeepers catching/saving alls when their hands aren't evern close to the ball. I've seen instances where the goalkeepers hands are 30cm away from the ball, or more, and still the ball is deflected. With goalkeepers in particular, the margins in real life football are usually alot closer than that, so not having a higher accuracy for collision detection does make it seem alot less fun, and it gives the goalkeepers quite a lot of undeserved "superhuman" saves.

Still, happens in PES aswell (maybe not quite as severe). I just wish they would just use the actual collision detection they have in the game, because when you shot on the goalkeeper and the ball deflects on his body, it is absolutely perfect. The ball can bounce several times from his thigh to his hand onto his foot, and always deflecting in the direction you'd expect. THen when he actually makes a proper save animation at the ball, he get's to cheat when not even close. :)

[evacuate]

That was annoying in Euro but I haven't noticed that in 09 yet. In Euro it happened all the time when the keeper slapped the ball when it was behind him, looked really weird. So I thought they had fixed it but it might still be there though since you've obviously encountered it.

I think they need a pretty advanced animation system though for the arms/hands of the keeper to not have this kind of cheating when the keeper are going to hold on to the ball. In real life you'd adjust the arms and hands slightly all the time but since the game just has a couple of animations the ball can't get exactly right at the hands. If it had to the keeper would never hold on to a ball in the game. Still when saving to the side, punching/parrying the ball they shouldn't have to cheat that obvious but still some though unless they add like 40-50 different animations where the keeper stretch towards the ball in different positions. I rather see this cheat than the keepers always missing the ball or just nudge it even when in real life they should be able to stretch out/adjust arms & hands to get it.

[Rob92]

Yeah the collision detection for goalkeepers is pretty annoying at times - in BAP Seasons I hit a cracking shot from around 30 yards which was heading straight for the top corner, and then the keeper tips it over the bar. I thought it looked good so I took a look at the replay, and the ball was about 30cm away from his hand.

Every football game i've played has had that sort of problem though, be it FIFA or PES. I don't think it's too long before we get a game with very accurate keeper collisions though.

[stilts1844]

The man marking really isn't the problem, it's just a flaw with the way players deal with the ball when its being passed.

Basically, you need to start running a second before the through ball is played (ie anticipate) to get to it before Torres/Henry/Ronaldo, et cetera.

Ok yes i could definitely find ways to defend torres better... but my point remains that if I can man mark offline why cant i man mark online?

[matt1288]

I can't score corners ffs, I've tried everything finessing it, putting full bar! It just doesn't go in. Any suggestions?

[stuartyd]

I can't score corners ffs, I've tried everything finessing it, putting full bar! It just doesn't go in. Any suggestions?

i find in swinging the ball toward the pen spot with about 3/4 power is quite dangerous.just gotta time your jump properly

[JayD]

http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/

FSB/EA FIFA league.

[Shooto]

http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/

FSB/EA FIFA league.

I would like to be in.

Gamertag "ShootoUK"

Cheers

[JayD]

I would like to be in.

Gamertag "ShootoUK"

Cheers

Follow the link and leave a link in the comments.

[jambotommy]

Dunno if this has been posted already, but I played online 1 vs 1 last night.

The guy went Blackpool, so I went Hearts.

Anyhoo, when the players were warming up etc,the teams were displayed.

He had Kaka,Ronaldo and several other world class players playing for them???

Needless to say,The boy hammered me 6-0,and afterwards I asked how he done this,and he said you just go to club tranfers,but he also warned me that you hardly get any points for winning(Which I really don't give a damn about tbh).

Anyway, everytime I play a quick ranked match against anyone it loads up the original Hearts line up,but offline it loads my new 4 and a half star line up.

My question is, how the hell do you use the transfered players version of your team online...?

Its driving me mad as I really want to play as hearts,but with some players that actually give me a chance of winning, against all these bloody 5 star teams !!!

Any help on this is appreciated :)

[Shooto]

Follow the link and leave a link in the comments.

meh, I dont have a google account.

[proxi]

What a cock. It sounds like the kind of hassle chavs go through just to try and look good. Don't go there man, don't be one of them.

All-star teams would be good for private online matches, but as for ranked play anyone doing it needs a slap off a hammer.

[Rob92]

I thought edited teams could only be used in unranked matches. My created player comes up in unranked but not ranked matches.

[jambotommy]

What a cock. It sounds like the kind of hassle chavs go through just to try and look good. Don't go there man, don't be one of them.

All-star teams would be good for private online matches, but as for ranked play anyone doing it needs a slap off a hammer.

I get you mate.

I would still like to know how they are getting them online, must be a(nother) bug.

[jambotommy]

I thought edited teams could only be used in unranked matches. My created player comes up in unranked but not ranked matches.

I only play quick ranked matches mate, he was hosting, if that means anything?

Its still on my stats page...Blackpool 6 Hearts 0.

The guy actually seemed alright, not your usual cheating wee scumbag, although he is a liverpool fan, so it probably is a little suspect...!!!

I can understand why supporters of lesser clubs like myself would want to do this though, online is turning into a 5 star fest, not all of us want to play as Man utd, Chelsea and AC Milan ect, but we don't always want fucked up the a-hole by glory hunters

:CONFUSE:.

[brunnoce]

I thought edited teams could only be used in unranked matches. My created player comes up in unranked but not ranked matches.

thats how it works here too!
and its great...u can evan organize an online master league with your m8s!! :)

[Shooto]

I only just noticed there is an all star team and a classic team in the rest of the world team selections.

Still prefer playing as the mighty hoops.

[stilts1844]

yea the good thing about using edited teams online is that you can sort out the netherlands and actually use them! but a related question: i noticed playing my bro who has addidas live season with the prem, we both used english teams but live season wasnt in effect, what gives? (sorry if this has already been asked...)

[StayingPower]

I don't think live season works online...?

[k_19]

I've now gotten used to World Class difficulty, and having a blast right now. As you all know (and has been mentioned a few times already), professional is a bit too easy and World Class can seem a little unforgiving sometimes, but I've now found the right tactics to compete with the higher level teams with a lower level team. I have pass and shooting on semi and everything else on manual.

To test it out with a lower level team, I used Korea Republic (who are three stars, not great, not terrible), and faced various higher ranked teams like Turkey, Poland, Italy, Germany, etc. With standard tactics where defense is put to "cover", these teams absolutely demolished me as they would get behind my defense line with ease and time their runs perfectly. And I could not dispossess them no matter how hard I tried. So I fiddled around with a few tactics and found a perfect match; playing high pressure with offside trap as the defensive tactic. This made the CPU forwards more hesistant in making their runs forward and give them little time on the ball. Their defense would also not press forward as much, giving more midfield action in general. Of course, CPU will time their runs right once in a while and hit you in a counterattack but now the game is much more even. With cover or man marking tactic, they just run circles around you at will and time their runs with ease, so don't bother. Playing these tactics, I once held out Germany to no shots at halftime, so it seems to click in frustrating the CPU offense.

And for anyone that is struggling on headers, try to hold RT, RB, and A (I guess R1+R2+X on PS3) at the same time as you time your jump. I'm pretty sure RB doesn't do anything, and that it is just hold RT, but with that combination I'm winning a lot more headers in the midfield and defense now.

There are still problems at the World Class level, such as the CPU having WAY too many shots on target (and scoring lot of unrealistic cheap goals in the process) and through ball glitch seemingly happening more often. But if you are having at World Class difficulty right now, give my tactics a try and see if it works out better for you.

[proxi]

I'm not sure if anyone can remember but many years ago I ran a fantasy Pro Evo league on here, involving me playing out the games on my own PS2 and sharing the highlights and stats in text form back on here. Transfers could take place between teams via the "managers" sending PMs to each other and notifying me, who kinda played God.. heh.

Hearing you can use edited teams gives me the idea of a FIFA league, but with obvious changes.

Online league. Home & away system. Would need at least 4 players, I still think a mini league would be fun.
Transfers available in windows, via managers doing deals with each other, and changing the players themselves offline, in ready for the next league match.
Adidas Live Season compatibility perhaps
Currency possible via real life levels of imaginary cash to begin with.
Teams earning money for a win, only a slight bit for a draw and losing cash after losing a match

The thing I would have problems working out would be how to value the players. Perhaps working the currency to be on par with in-game MM values. Brainstorming over. If anyone's interested in doing something like this or helping with the formula feel free, it's just an idea at the moment.

[StayingPower]

What about doing the currency by the players rating?

[vglntv95]

Nice games Rob, can't believe that free kick in the last minute lol. Off the bar and about an inch over the line and out again. That move in the Turkey/Russia game I did was beautiful. Very lucky in that last game!

Today I've not been able to get many good games because people are offline, and it just reiterates how bad it is playing against fully assisted noobs who haven't got the first fucking clue how to play proper football. If I'm losing against these people now I will just quit when I feel like it, DNF rating doesn't bother me at all and it's worth it to annoy those morons after their precious win percentages.

Next year we seriously have to make a petition or something to get forced semi controls in.

[vglntv95]

P.S - can you save replays in online games?

[kobashi]

P.S - can you save replays in online games?

Not got 09 yet (arriving monday) :) and never tried it in 08. Wouldnt the problem be that your opponent is not gonna wait while you sit and save the replay of your goal.

[Rob92]

I think Live Season only works for Ranked matches, that's pretty crap really as I rarely play them at all :(.

Great games vglntv95 who I just played from here (can never remember username! :PP) It's great playing as teams from different countries/divisions, getting different types of matches each time as well as playing with semi/manual controls and playing proper football.
That free kick you scored was incredible, especially with the ball going just over the line and bouncing back out again! You put together a few very nice moves, was that Turkey/Russia one the move where you passed it around a bit, played a cross-field ball to the winger, put a deep cross in, headed it back across goal and slotted it in? That one was very cool and looked realistic too :).
That volley in the last game I hit would have been a great goal, I thought it was in but it went just wide.

You can't save online replays :( It's a shame, I seem to do most of my best moves/goals online where they can't be uploaded, yet when I play offline I can't score a half-decent goal at all!!! Pretty annoying.

[vglntv95]

Yeh I guess you can't save them but still, would be nice if they did something where it uploads silently in the background or something.

Rob that was the one, it was pretty slick, probably the best team goal I've scored. I like our games because of the contrasting styles, you play it around more whilst I'm far more direct and just pump it forward at every opportunity. I thought that volley was in too, I actually jumped out of my seat lol.

It's so much more realistic playing like that, which is why it's so shocking that no one uses it. I think in the last thirty random people I've played online, maybe one or two (max) have been using any kind of semi controls and *always* assisted through balls. I'm really enjoying manual through balls now and have done a couple of pearlers today.

[danhammer]

online play for ps3 version is pissing me off.....quite laggy and hardly finish a game due to losing connection

my internet is decent......starting to grate now

[vglntv95]

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[Matk]

Anyone know how to set up a custom league with more than 4 human players controlling the teams? I want to set up a proper (non-online) league but when you try and set up a custom league it only gives you a max of 4 human controlled players.

[StuartCulli]

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p277/StuartCulli/SP_A0979.jpg

Those are my controls mate. I've got through balls on assisted cos they are frustratingly slow on manual. As for my diving header that somehow was a diving header, (he'll understand), I admit was a touch weird but don't go tagging me with hate without knowing the facts :))

[Rob92]

LOL someone from here called StuartCulli added me.

Try playing as well as that on semi/manual mate.As Stu posted, he does use semi/manual apart from through balls. He is very good though, so sometimes it would seem he is using assisted for passing too :PP.

[vglntv95]

Ah ok fair enough, sorry about that but you didn't misplace a single pass in the entire match. I've played some very good semi/manual players and even they drop the odd clanger. It was actually a tougher game for me than 95% of the fully assisted people I've played, so I was surprised to be drawing until the last minute penalty. Let's play again some time :)

Manual through balls might not be that great, but compared to how stupidly accurate assisted through balls are I think it's the more realistic option.

[millmax7]

does anyone kno how to make snow fall in da game?

[StuartCulli]

Ah ok fair enough, sorry about that but you didn't misplace a single pass in the entire match. I've played some very good semi/manual players and even they drop the odd clanger. It was actually a tougher game for me than 95% of the fully assisted people I've played, so I was surprised to be drawing until the last minute penalty. Let's play again some time :)

Manual through balls might not be that great, but compared to how stupidly accurate assisted through balls are I think it's the more realistic option.

I'll put the cutback down to you being pissed off about me on 'assisted' then ;)

[footyfan]

anyone else think the manual passing was much more forgiving on euro2008, ive been playing it tonight still think its a great game feels a little softer to play than fifa09.

[vglntv95]

I think my cutback goal was cancelled out by your physically impossible neck breaking header! The pace of that game was frightening though, given that it was on slow, I was having to backtrack like a bitch just to keep you out. I really hate games like that, I prefer a more leisurely Italian style pace, but it will be interesting to see what happens next time.

[StuartCulli]

My header was bloody weird, I know. I'm sure you'll have the better of us two in other games I was just in the zone then ;)

[vglntv95]

I doubt it somehow, but I will at least know what I'm up against so will be able to set up accordingly, lol. How long have you been playing the game to get that good? I've not seen anyone shift the ball around that quickly, although I think the way Everton set up by default didn't help me, Marseille are pretty quick so you need to get in their face before they can turn and run at you.

[StuartCulli]

How long have I been playing 09? A day before official release day. I played 08 on fully manual as well if that helped.

[footyfan]

I doubt it somehow, but I will at least know what I'm up against so will be able to set up accordingly, lol. How long have you been playing the game to get that good? I've not seen anyone shift the ball around that quickly, although I think the way Everton set up by default didn't help me, Marseille are pretty quick so you need to get in their face before they can turn and run at you.

Everton setup as default is very realistic, no movement off the ball and cant string two passes together, with arteta doing fuck all. about right really.

[riboflavin]

GLITCH IN ARENA

If you change your arena player, then change him again, play BAP, exit back to arena, you can get that first player in the uniform of the second

I put Ashley Young as my arena player, then played some games, changed to Benzema, and when I play BAP, and exit back to arena, i get Young in the uniform of LYON. Kinda funny.

[brunnoce]

Everton setup as default is very realistic, no movement off the ball and cant string two passes together, with arteta doing fuck all. about right really.

thats totally precise!
Arsenal x Everton macth spoiler below:
jessssssssssssssss;;;
just wacthed arsenal x everton...another frustating macth for out repertoar...
we just CANT pass the ball....its amazing...

[BumperMan]

how is the snow? the rain? weather effects? breathing in cold weather? adboards? pitches getting dirty?

I think it's about time that we saw good weather effects now after giving EA 2 years to make the gameplay solid with the new engine


4 fu&*ing pages and no one can comment on this?

[brunnoce]

how is the snow? the rain? weather effects? breathing in cold weather? adboards? pitches getting dirty?

I think it's about time that we saw good weather effects now after giving EA 2 years to make the gameplay solid with the new engine


4 fu&*ing pages and no one can comment on this?

tomba im gonna answer u....it will be dissapointing... but ill

how is the snow?
Looks good, but its weird when u see players wearing short sleeves on it
I didnt feel so much diference on the physics

the rain?
Looks great, when u can see it...meaning, u can only see it on cut scenes and Be a pro cameras unfortnaly...i like how the physics change, seems realistic to me...

breathing in cold weather?
NO

adboards?
Some stadiums like old trafford have eletronic adborads...ull see reall advertisements for each specific league

pitches getting dirty?
NO, although there are stadiums or ramdom ocasion where ull see a poor pithc, and others where ull see a World cup quality pitch....so far i think its random...

[stilts1844]

[QUOTE=Rob92;1478384]I think Live Season only works for Ranked matches, that's pretty crap really as I rarely play them at all :(.

Thats crazy.... what kind of sense does that make? It's such a great game if only there weren't these tiny mistakes which are just bizarre.

It's strange, I'm getting better at the game fast: I moved up to Legendary after beating Man U on world class with Sunderland, then drew man u with stoke city! Hope the AI isnt going to be too easy now...

[BumperMan]

tomba im gonna answer u....it will be dissapointing... but ill

how is the snow?
Looks good, but its weird when u see players wearing short sleeves on it
I didnt feel so much diference on the physics

the rain?
Looks great, when u can see it...meaning, u can only see it on cut scenes and Be a pro cameras unfortnaly...i like how the physics change, seems realistic to me...

breathing in cold weather?
NO

adboards?
Some stadiums like old trafford have eletronic adborads...ull see reall advertisements for each specific league

pitches getting dirty?
NO, although there are stadiums or ramdom ocasion where ull see a poor pithc, and others where ull see a World cup quality pitch....so far i think its random...

thank you brunnoce! sorry for being so "Big texted' about it lOL

so adboards have sponsors?

[millmax7]

does anyone know how to change the kit number in manager mode?

[vglntv95]

I've only had the game for 10 days and had never played FIFA before that so I must be learning pretty fast :}

[Placebo]

does anyone know how to change the kit number in manager mode?

It's a secret.

[Tim7]

does anyone know how to change the kit number in manager mode?
You can't.

[millmax7]

k thanks

[DaWu]

a goal from me. everything on semi.

http://www.eafootballworld.com/de_DE/video/1757243

[Disqo]

How do you jockey tackle on world class, I can't get near them its pissing me off now

[vglntv95]

class goal, really highlights how much more realistic the game is on semi/manual, the way that aerial throughball goes slightly wrong and you have to run out to collect it etc.

Dawu, is there any chance we could make a thread where we can collate the gamer tags of people that play semi/manual controls?

[StuartCulli]

I'll give you a game now

[vglntv95]

can you go manual through balls to make it more fair : ]

[StuartCulli]

Lol sure but what's your obesession with it.

[StuartCulli]

Fucking hate night games. They look awful.