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final lap
3 October 08, 17:19
Anybody in the US know of a place to buy the PS3 PAL version of the game, to like go and pick it up, not for ordering?
Bingham67
3 October 08, 17:40
I just used that default formation to beat AC, 3-0. On legendary.
Nice had a game online with it and didnt feel right to me.
gomito#10
3 October 08, 17:48
Anybody in the US know of a place to buy the PS3 PAL version of the game, to like go and pick it up, not for ordering?
yeah probably NYC
Geefiasco
3 October 08, 17:49
I'm sick of these bloody whores online. I'm about to play my first game online, guess what team they pick? flipping Man Utd. I choose Aston Villa, then he suddenly switches to Inter Milan... WTF is that about??
I've played 5 unranked games today, and 4 of them have been against the obvious 5 star teams.
Don't these "whores" get bored of being the same 5* teams? and playing against the same top teams? ...How the hell do they play for 12 months using the SAME bloody teams? Man Utd, Chelsea, Barca, Inter, Arsenal, Madrid etc... FFSSS!!!
Murkurial
3 October 08, 17:52
I'm sick of these bloody whores online. I'm about to play my first game online, guess what team they pick? flipping Man Utd. I choose Aston Villa, then he suddenly switches to Inter Milan... WTF is that about??
I've played 5 unranked games today, and 4 of them have been against the obvious 5 star teams.
Don't these "whores" get bored of being the same 5* teams? and playing against the same top teams? ...How the hell do they play for 12 months using the SAME bloody teams? Man Utd, Chelsea, Barca, Inter, Arsenal, Madrid etc... FFSSS!!!
Turn on those tactics. 10 men behind the ball, counter attack. I agree that it's annoying but since custom tactics can be used online (I think) this would be a good opportunity to see just how well they work.
Question though, someone in another forum said that it was possible to limit the number of people that you could have on your side during Be A Pro (unranked) matches by going through the lobby system. I had no idea what he mean't by that but do you know if this is true?
final lap
3 October 08, 17:52
yeah probably NYC
I thought about that and I have a cousin in NY, do you know of a specific place?
thanks.
Is anyone here playing with Spurs on the PS3 version?
If yes have Bentley, Modric and Jenas vanished from your Spurs squads?
gomito#10
3 October 08, 18:03
I thought about that and I have a cousin in NY, do you know of a specific place?
thanks.
on the street, from a street vendor, not sure which borough
So are we going to do an online league this season. Later this month perhaps?
final lap
3 October 08, 18:14
on the street, from a street vendor, not sure which borough
Really? ok I guess I'll give it a try. Can't wait to play this, I can't believe they make us in the US wait another 2 weeks
kobashi
3 October 08, 18:19
I'm sick of these bloody whores online. I'm about to play my first game online, guess what team they pick? flipping Man Utd. I choose Aston Villa, then he suddenly switches to Inter Milan... WTF is that about??
I've played 5 unranked games today, and 4 of them have been against the obvious 5 star teams.
Don't these "whores" get bored of being the same 5* teams? and playing against the same top teams? ...How the hell do they play for 12 months using the SAME bloody teams? Man Utd, Chelsea, Barca, Inter, Arsenal, Madrid etc... FFSSS!!!
Yeah it was the same in FIFA 08. I mean sometimes you get a good player who if I choose Marseille for example they will pick a dutch, french, German, or smaller english side. I really dont understand why people don't like being weaker teams. Like you said, I dunno how anyone can stick with the same 5* teams all year.
After the few two weeks I avoid anyone that picks Man Utd or Barcelona as I just sick of playing them.
jambotommy
3 October 08, 18:27
i got it! lol i was chatting to the girl over the counter in oxford street i think we're meeting tomorrow at some bar somewhere :lol:
i was so buzzed to get it i think set myself up for a date... that i won't be attending... due to fifa09. sad i know.
(i am also kinda double booked).
anyways. on with the game.
You bastard.:PIG:
:LOL:
You do know her father is David Rutter...?
shieldslfc
3 October 08, 18:30
Fucking PLAY.COM never ordering a thing from them again - no delevery on release date PISS POOR!!
Me too, I always receive stuff from them on a saturday, its probably sent the cheapest business class, basturds, never again.
I only ordered with them by mistake, it was too late before I realised.
I got game today at Tesco's for £29.71, so Play are gettings there's back.
danhammer
3 October 08, 19:00
played my first game this afternoon, absolutely love it...it's amazing
so happy i could cry :-)
pbchillin
3 October 08, 19:22
Yeah it was the same in FIFA 08. I mean sometimes you get a good player who if I choose Marseille for example they will pick a dutch, french, German, or smaller english side. I really dont understand why people don't like being weaker teams. Like you said, I dunno how anyone can stick with the same 5* teams all year.
After the few two weeks I avoid anyone that picks Man Utd or Barcelona as I just sick of playing them.
Weirdest I had was against a guy called 'Spurs4Eva' (or something to that meaning), his default was Spurs, so I picked Fiorentina, then suddenly he changes to Man Utd! :S
Radiation
3 October 08, 19:38
i got it! lol i was chatting to the girl over the counter in oxford street i think we're meeting tomorrow at some bar somewhere :lol:
i was so buzzed to get it i think set myself up for a date... that i won't be attending... due to fifa09. sad i know.
(i am also kinda double booked).
anyways. on with the game.
Advice from my misses;
Meet up with her - get a shag - come back play fifa - job done
reddevils
3 October 08, 19:40
check this goal out:
http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/962365
:-pp :-D couldnt believe it when it went in :LOL: :DD
check this goal out:
http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/962365
:-pp :-D couldnt believe it when it went in :LOL: :DD
Was that a finese shot?!
Radiation
3 October 08, 19:49
This just happened to me during the BAP Seasons Mode, and meant we drew our game and I ended up with no EXP points.
YouTube - Bad Goalkeeper - Fifa 09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGSqlJuhhcM)
Pardon the bad quality
BillyBoy
3 October 08, 19:49
Just got my copy of FIFA 09 on PS3. ITS BRILLIANT! Played a match Liverpool vs Manchester United at Anfield on overcast and it was so fun even though I lost 2-1. I then played a 10v10 game (won 3-0) and Man City vs Man U (lost 1-0). Its just so good! :)
brunnoce
3 October 08, 19:49
im about to get the french version of the game...
anyone knows if the french Ps3 version has english commentary and all the sponsors like Bwin?
Blaccat
3 October 08, 19:53
Just banged in a screamer from like 40 yards out, went directly over the keeper, coulddnt do anything as it flashed pass me but EAFW is down cant upload
Bingham67
3 October 08, 20:03
http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/961787
Not my video but exactly same thing happened to me in arena keeper going walkabout. :LOL:
How great game is alot of bugs hope EA release patch :(
final lap
3 October 08, 20:15
im about to get the french version of the game...
anyone knows if the french Ps3 version has english commentary and all the sponsors like Bwin?
How are you getting it in Brasil? Or are you ordering online? I would also like to know what commentaries the various PS3 versions come with.
im about to get the french version of the game...
anyone knows if the french Ps3 version has english commentary and all the sponsors like Bwin?
There's no English commentary ("only" French, German, Spanish, Italian, Russian, Portuguese, Czech, Polish, Hungarian).
And only French, German and Italian for the French 360 version.
brunnoce
3 October 08, 20:26
How are you getting it in Brasil? Or are you ordering online? I would also like to know what commentaries the various PS3 versions come with.
Theres some guy on our local "ebay" that has it...he brought 20 copies from paris...
im gonna pay a lot more for the game(about 80 euros), but i cant wait anylonger, im pulling the plug.
since ure in the US suggest importing with game or shopto, a lot cheaper and importing to the US is quite easy, here in brazil we have toons of taxes and procedures that delay a lot the delivery.
reddevils
3 October 08, 20:27
Was that a finese shot?!
yeah
brunnoce
3 October 08, 20:28
There's no English commentary ("only" French, German, Spanish, Italian, Russian, Portuguese, Czech, Polish, Hungarian).
And only French, German and Italian for the French 360 version.
Portuguese comentary tuta?
are u sure? thats a new one...didnt know about it...
thats a pitty since i love the english comentary...well what can i do...
anyway, can u confirm theres english text and also that if i set other comentary other than french the betting(BWIN) and alcool(Carling) sponsors are brought back?
thanx for the info man
BobbyBox
3 October 08, 20:28
I started my first BAP game and got injured after 6mins :ROLL:
Loving this, its so realistic, a few bugs but nothing major!! I'm into my 4th match on MM with Chelsea, as I've been playing lounge mode a lot with proxi. These badges things on Lounge are pretty cool too! Still annoyed I can't have a female avatar though on EAFW. :(
final lap
3 October 08, 20:32
Theres some guy on our local "ebay" that has it...he brought 20 copies from paris...
im gonna pay a lot more for the game(about 80 euros), but i cant wait anylonger, im pulling the plug.
since ure in the US suggest importing with game or shopto, a lot cheaper and importing to the US is quite easy, here in brazil we have toons of taxes and procedures that delay a lot the delivery.
Problem is I don't know which commentaries come with the UK version. I like the commentaries in the french version you're getting, but I would like english as well. I can't wait to get the game either, but if I order it, it takes at least 5 days to get here, and then I would only be getting it 1 week before I could buy it in my local store
nigelnire
3 October 08, 20:33
I always believed PES5 on the PS2 was the best football game ever. That changed this morning when i got my copy of Fifa09 on Xbox 360 its fantastic. Up until PES08 to be honest I was a Pro Evo fan boy but not anymore Im converted and have gone over to the dark side.
Sadly no matter how good Fifa 09 is many people wont buy it out of brand loyalty to Konami. Its like someone refusing to swap his Fiat Panda for a Ferrari because he likes Fiats. Much like the emperors new clothes story in many ways people cant or dont want to see the truth.
Lets be honest after playing the PES09 demo solid yesterday and Fifa09 today there is no comparison.
People can spend their money whatever way the want but the choice this year is like a Steak Dinner or a dogs turd sandwich.
Nick Cave
3 October 08, 20:33
Has anyone on an MM had an injury yet?...
sweetkilla
3 October 08, 20:35
I started my first BAP game and got injured after 6mins :ROLL:
annoying but realistic if your injured your injured :):-pp
brunnoce
3 October 08, 20:37
Problem is I don't know which commentaries come with the UK version. I like the commentaries in the french version you're getting, but I would like english as well. I can't wait to get the game either, but if I order it, it takes at least 5 days to get here, and then I would only be getting it 1 week before I could buy it in my local store
take a look at ebay? maybe someone in the us has it already...u can aways pay an express delivery method, it would be superfast like 1 day i guess
BobbyBox
3 October 08, 20:38
annoying but realistic if your injured your injured :):-pp
I'm not knocking it.
But I was all excited then the guy fucked me up for the next 3 games! :LOL:
Machines
3 October 08, 20:39
I always believed PES5 on the PS2 was the best football game ever. That changed this morning when i got my copy of Fifa09 on Xbox 360 its fantastic. Up until PES08 to be honest I was a Pro Evo fan boy but not anymore Im converted and have gone over to the dark side.
Sadly no matter how good Fifa 09 is many people wont buy it out of brand loyalty to Konami. Its like someone refusing to swap his Fiat Panda for a Ferrari because he likes Fiats. Much like the emperors new clothes story in many ways people cant or dont want to see the truth.
Lets be honest after playing the PES09 demo solid yesterday and Fifa09 today there is no comparison.
People can spend their money whatever way the want but the choice this year is like a Steak Dinner or a dogs turd sandwich.
Couldn't agree more. Everything you see PES fanboys accuse FIFA of being is exactly what they have in their game, i.e. ping pong passing, arcade feel, stiff movement. Makes absolutely no sense. I downloaded the PES demo last night and could barely stand it. Quickly deleted it as the drive space was clearly more valuable...LOL.
Geefiasco
3 October 08, 20:40
What camera angle do you all use?
evacuate
3 October 08, 20:42
Tele that is a bit more zoomed out.
nigelnire
3 October 08, 20:42
Quickly deleted it as the drive space was clearly more valuable...LOL.
:LOL::LOL:
I find the Dynamic Camera is best. Bring the height right down and then zoom it out almost all the way about 90% That way you can see plenty of the pitch and see the crowds in the stands on the far wing looks great and shows off the graphics really well.
I use Tele on standard setting, thinking I may zoom it in a bit more though cause I'm chuffing blind.
final lap
3 October 08, 20:55
take a look at ebay? maybe someone in the us has it already...u can aways pay an express delivery method, it would be superfast like 1 day i guess
yeah already tried that, no luck
Blaccat
3 October 08, 20:56
"Isen is part of my starting eleven", says the Arsenal Coach. "This guy has a future"
Yeah boi!!!!!!!!!!!!!
astirling
3 October 08, 21:03
Has anyone on an MM had an injury yet?...
Yeah I have.....guy went off injured but he was back the following week. Used to get lots of these last year.
Nick Cave
3 October 08, 21:07
Yeah I have.....guy went off injured but he was back the following week. Used to get lots of these last year.
Yeah I fear it's the same old one week injuries like 08...
Scutch
3 October 08, 21:23
Guys, a quick question :
Is it possible to removed Arshavin from the Russian team so I can buy him in Manager Mode somehow?
Cheers. Game is superb; Being a PES fan, I'm finding it quite challenging, which is great. Beat Hull 1-0, but they had the best chances. Gomes was MOTM with a 9/10 rating and deservedly so! The game only changed when I brought on Campbell and Lennon.
Nick Cave
3 October 08, 21:24
Guys, a quick question :
Is it possible to removed Arshavin from the Russian team so I can buy him in Manager Mode somehow?
Cheers. Game is superb; Being a PES fan, I'm finding it quite challenging, which is great. Beat Hull 1-0, but they had the best chances. Gomes was MOTM with a 9/10 rating and deservedly so! The game only changed when I brought on Campbell and Lennon.
Is he not in as a free agent?
Scutch
3 October 08, 21:27
Is he not in as a free agent?
No Nick. Did a search and nothing. He's only in the game under the Russian national team. I dont want to create a new player if there's a way of incorporating the original into the MM.
airjoca
3 October 08, 21:28
Played my first online ranked match, Benfica (me) x Barcelona, I won 3-1. :)
Murkurial
3 October 08, 21:29
No Nick. Did a search and nothing. He's only in the game under the Russian national team. I dont want to create a new player if there's a way of incorporating the original into the MM.
In FIFA 08 you could go to team management and just search for him and take him from the Russian National Team and place him on another squad from the get go. Somebody said that there were no free agents in this game but if there are you just put him there if you want to and then you'll be able to buy him. He won't cost anything though. Otherwise you'll have to place him on Spurs, restart your manager mode, and then carry on the losing tradition at White Hart Lane because even he can't help them.
Scutch
3 October 08, 21:32
In FIFA 08 you could go to team management and just search for him and take him from the Russian National Team and place him on another squad from the get go. Somebody said that there were no free agents in this game but if there are you just put him there if you want to and then you'll be able to buy him. He won't cost anything though. Otherwise you'll have to place him on Spurs, restart your manager mode, and then carry on the losing tradition at White Hart Lane because even he can't help them.
Touche :-pp
Apologies as I dont have the game loaded at the moment, but is this Team Management different to the Transfers and Edit section of the game? There is definitely a Free Agents section but I'm pretty sure there arent any players in there from the get go.
kellex
3 October 08, 21:37
Benn playing Fifa 09 since Tuesday and all I need to say right now is, Fifa 09= :DANCE:
Murkurial
3 October 08, 21:38
Touche :-pp
Apologies as I dont have the game loaded at the moment, but is this Team Management different to the Transfers and Edit section of the game? There is definitely a Free Agents section but I'm pretty sure there arent any players in there from the get go.
Yeah, my bad, you go to transfers. Club transfers and (at least this is how I was able to do it last year) search the name. If I recall correctly (and i wish i could check 08 now, but my 360 is on it's way back from repair) it would show you players who were both on club teams and those on international teams. I would then just either transfer the player str8 over, which would result in that player effectively being duplicated as he'd still stay on the NT, and placed on my team. Or the free agency I believe.
I know that I did it w/ a specific team, that I'm certain of. As far as placing the guy in the free agency, that I'm not too sure about. You might be better off just putting him on the team.
Scutch
3 October 08, 21:40
Ok dude, thanks for that. I did go to International Transfers but obviously from there you can only swap team members around it seems from within the same national team.
I also tried Club Transfers but didnt use this "search" function and therefore couldnt find Arshavin as Zenit arent in the game and there was no way of viewing the Russian squad from there, either.
I'll try the search later on. Many thanks mate.
final lap
3 October 08, 21:57
can anybody with the UK PS3 version confirm which commentary languages can be selected?
thanks.
ronaldo10
3 October 08, 21:57
im about to get the french version of the game...
anyone knows if the french Ps3 version has english commentary and all the sponsors like Bwin?
don't bother brunnoce, i bought mine here in france, as it came earlyer on tuesday, i had to give it back as the comentary and the text was ONLY in french, i ordered the english version from amazon two days ago, i hope it will arrive tomorrow, can't wait to play it again
Nick Cave
3 October 08, 21:59
don't bother brunnoce, i bought mine here in france, as it came here earlyer on tuesday, i give the game back as the comentary and the text is ONLY in french, i ordered mine from amazon, i hope it will arrive tomorrow
That's nut's...:SS
luke909
3 October 08, 22:01
What happens to the scores if someone quits?
s33k3rgr
3 October 08, 22:03
Thats my story.
I was thinking about getting a ps3 just for fifa 09 and i was thinking that the new pro evo will not be good.But today after testing the new pro evo (Pc version - i dont own a ps3) it kinda gives me the old good feeling that previous pro-evo, winning eleven games used to give me.I think that pro evo 09 is like pes 5 with better graphics. Thats my opinion (i know its a fifa 09 thread but its importand for my question i will put).
Let me note that i never tested fifa 08,euro 08, fifa 09 because i dont own a ps3.
I am very curious about fifa 09 and how it plays because there is TOO much enthusiasm from people here for fifa.
So is it a ps3 worth getting for fifa 09?? (i know that ps3 has a lot of games other than fifa but i play footie games mostly)
I hope that you get my question.I think it has to do with fifa.Sorry if you think its not.
Placebo
3 October 08, 22:13
Yeah I fear it's the same old one week injuries like 08...
Someone on the EA forums reported a Walcott 2 months http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/345359-i-got-injury.html
Nick Cave
3 October 08, 22:17
Someone on the EA forums reported a Walcott 2 months http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/345359-i-got-injury.html
Cheers Placebo that's just made my day...
Yes I'm that sad ;))...
Though Dags has just told me we get weather and night games in BAP, why not in MM then Grrrrr...
Got my copy of FIFA 09 this afternoon and have to take my hat off to EA as they have pulled out a great game. I have been PES all my life and for the first time ever I actually believe FIFA has gone ahead. Obviously it may change over time but at this moment i think FIFA is the better game.
Placebo
3 October 08, 22:20
Guys, a quick question :
Is it possible to removed Arshavin from the Russian team so I can buy him in Manager Mode somehow?
Just did it, go to team transfers, national teams, choose a different Russian player from the pool on the left, have him replace Arshavin in the Russian squad, now go back out and he'll be in the Free agents team! :)
Now we need to make a list of free agents in real life to put in the Free agent team :)
Placebo
3 October 08, 22:24
Err be careful doing that though, it just let me put an Ecuadorian forward in the England team in place of Gary Neville!
s33k3rgr
3 October 08, 22:24
Thats my story.
I was thinking about getting a ps3 just for fifa 09 and i was thinking that the new pro evo will not be good.But today after testing the new pro evo (Pc version - i dont own a ps3) it kinda gives me the old good feeling that previous pro-evo, winning eleven games used to give me.I think that pro evo 09 is like pes 5 with better graphics. Thats my opinion (i know its a fifa 09 thread but its importand for my question i will put).
Let me note that i never tested fifa 08,euro 08, fifa 09 because i dont own a ps3.
I am very curious about fifa 09 and how it plays because there is TOO much enthusiasm from people here for fifa.
So is it a ps3 worth getting for fifa 09?? (i know that ps3 has a lot of games other than fifa but i play footie games mostly)
I hope that you get my question.I think it has to do with fifa.Sorry if you think its not.
isn't my question worth answering?
nigelnire
3 October 08, 22:26
Thats my story.
I was thinking about getting a ps3 just for fifa 09 and i was thinking that the new pro evo will not be good.But today after testing the new pro evo (Pc version - i dont own a ps3) it kinda gives me the old good feeling that previous pro-evo, winning eleven games used to give me.I think that pro evo 09 is like pes 5 with better graphics. Thats my opinion (i know its a fifa 09 thread but its importand for my question i will put).
Let me note that i never tested fifa 08,euro 08, fifa 09 because i dont own a ps3.
I am very curious about fifa 09 and how it plays because there is TOO much enthusiasm from people here for fifa.
So is it a ps3 worth getting for fifa 09?? (i know that ps3 has a lot of games other than fifa but i play footie games mostly)
I hope that you get my question.I think it has to do with fifa.Sorry if you think its not.
I don’t want to get into the console war thing im no fan boy I want value and service for my money. Fifa 09 is a superb game and if your into Football id get a PS3 or Xbox 360 the graphics look exactly the same but the Xbox 360 has more games and here anyway it’s a lot cheaper to buy I had a PS3 and didn’t like it. The PS3 controller is good for football games like PES09 but the Xbox ones fine with Fifa I like it a lot. The truth is very few games maximise the Next generation power of the PS3 or XBOX360. I find XBOX live to be really good. Its up to you.
Fifa09 on my 360 on my HD tv is just Awesome.
Placebo
3 October 08, 22:28
Fifa09 next gen is better than PES current gen or next gen or Fifa09 on PC, that's the simple fact, now this is a Fifa thread, go to a PES thread and they'll tell you the opposite, best thing is to find a friend/store where you can try both games on a PS3/360 and judge for yourself.
Nick Cave
3 October 08, 22:29
isn't my question worth answering?
Sorry mate, did not read the whole thing... I'd have to question buying a PS3 just for one game unless money is no object or like me you play the thing to death, are you a big gamer, do you own a ps2 or Xbox?
Though if you like movies you have a good Blue Ray player too...
Murkurial
3 October 08, 22:29
Err be careful doing that though, it just let me put an Ecuadorian forward in the England team in place of Gary Neville!
LOL, does the game also allow you to alter nationalities as well? I remember last year that Kazim Kazim of Turkey (who's real name is Colin Kazim Richards as he is both Turkish and English but plays for the Turkish NT) was listed only as English for his nationality so I wasn't able to transfer him to the Turkish squad.
s33k3rgr
3 October 08, 22:29
I don’t want to get into the console war thing im no fan boy I want value and service for my money. Fifa 09 is a superb game and if your into Football id get a PS3 or Xbox 360 the graphics look exactly the same but the Xbox 360 has more games and here anyway it’s a lot cheaper to buy I had a PS3 and didn’t like it. The PS3 controller is good for football games like PES09 but the Xbox ones fine with Fifa I like it a lot. The truth is very few games maximise the Next generation power of the PS3 or XBOX360. I find XBOX live to be really good. Its up to you.
Fifa09 on my 360 on my HD tv is just Awesome.
Thanks.Anyone else somethink different?
Murkurial
3 October 08, 22:30
Sorry mate, did not read the whole thing... I'd have to question buying a PS3 just for one game unless money is no object or like me you play the thing to death, are you a big gamer, do you own a ps2 or Xbox?
Though if you like movies you have a good Blue Ray player too...
Or if you like Metal Gear Solid...
But for a sports game no.
Placebo
3 October 08, 22:30
LOL, does the game also allow you to alter nationalities as well? I remember last year that Kazim Kazim of Turkey (who's real name is Colin Kazim Richards as he is both Turkish and English but plays for the Turkish NT) was listed only as English for his nationality so I wasn't able to transfer him to the Turkish squad.
You can change nationality in Fifa09 yes, just changed Akpo from English to Nigerian :)
EatonTJ
3 October 08, 22:30
Quick question, is it possible to put the player's name over the head of the player as in PES? In the FIFA demo there was only the option for the arrow over the head of the player selected, can the name be over the head instead?
It's a big help for us blind folk who want to play zoomed out.
Nick Cave
3 October 08, 22:32
Quick question, is it possible to put the player's name over the head of the player as in PES? In the FIFA demo there was only the option for the arrow over the head of the player selected, can the name be over the head instead?
It's a big help for us blind folk who want to play zoomed out.
Yes!!
final lap
3 October 08, 23:01
Err be careful doing that though, it just let me put an Ecuadorian forward in the England team in place of Gary Neville!
what's wrong with ecuadorians? I'm Ecuadorian, grrrrr :))
brunnoce
3 October 08, 23:02
don't bother brunnoce, i bought mine here in france, as it came earlyer on tuesday, i had to give it back as the comentary and the text was ONLY in french, i ordered the english version from amazon two days ago, i hope it will arrive tomorrow, can't wait to play it again
REally are u sure?
Ps3?
Cause the guy who sold me told me that he is 100% sure theres portuguese Text(that will do for me)
he just couldnt confirm the commentaries that are in...if theres spannish ill be ok...althoug i would much prefer everything in english...
Murkurial
3 October 08, 23:24
I'm wondering, does anyone know how to go about setting up a BAP Club match? Is there a separate menu choice or do you have to do something else. I'm in the U.S. and don't have the game yet but I've read something that I can't believe regarding the mode and I'm just trying to find out from those that have played it how you actually meet up with your Club members to play a game.
evacuate
3 October 08, 23:30
To play a game everyone meets up in the locker room or whatever it's called. Then when you have enough players you just press the button and it starts to search for another team to play against. That is how it works on NHL 09 and it looks exactly the same in fifa, so I guess it's like that.
DagsJT
3 October 08, 23:32
To play a game everyone meets up in the locker room or whatever it's called. Then when you have enough players you just press the button and it starts to search for another team to play against. That is how it works on NHL 09 and it looks exactly the same in fifa, so I guess it's like that.
Correct :TU:
goalgerd
3 October 08, 23:34
just got to say fifa 09 is what a next gen game should be,it really is a special game. picked it up earlier and im hooked,this is the 1st first fifa game ive bought and i have to say i wont play anything else this side of xmas
nigelnire
3 October 08, 23:44
Hey goalgerd Totally agree it really is top notch, I knew it would be good from playing the Demo but its even better than I hoped for. Your laughing anyway with shamrock rovers in there. Just hoping that the Irish league will be in it sometime Id love Linfield to be in it and it would be be great to play a type of Setanta cup.
Placebo
3 October 08, 23:52
what's wrong with ecuadorians? I'm Ecuadorian, grrrrr :))
Come live here for 5 years, then I'll let you in the England team ;)
kouroux
4 October 08, 00:06
Dammit, play asia won't ship the game i ordered until October 14th , i will not resist guys .I'ma do something very silly soon:OT:
Nick Cave
4 October 08, 00:13
Come live here for 5 years, then I'll let you in the England team ;)
Err where Sweden... :LOL:
Ricobah
4 October 08, 00:15
I was just playing online (PS3) and it was so fast that it was virtually unplayable. Anyone else had this?
Placebo
4 October 08, 00:22
Err where Sweden... :LOL:
That is indeed a good point ;)
WEtongelre
4 October 08, 00:28
I can't upload my videos on easportsworld... Why is that?
goalgerd
4 October 08, 00:42
Has anyone on an MM had an injury yet?...
had 3 injuries in my first 5 games:((
Bitter Rivals
4 October 08, 00:53
all my 10v10 games tonight have been laggy
i guess it is to do with how many people are on the servers as lastnight it was fine
1v1 was fine tho
goalgerd
4 October 08, 01:04
Hey goalgerd Totally agree it really is top notch, I knew it would be good from playing the Demo but its even better than I hoped for. Your laughing anyway with shamrock rovers in there. Just hoping that the Irish league will be in it sometime Id love Linfield to be in it and it would be be great to play a type of Setanta cup.
yeah i started a BAP with myself in the rovers team,i did the stats and im the best player in the league haha,scored a hatrick in my first game against bohs and then got sent off,the game is class:TU: they should have put Linfield in the other teams league considering they are the best team in the irish league
Murkurial
4 October 08, 01:09
all my 10v10 games tonight have been laggy
i guess it is to do with how many people are on the servers as lastnight it was fine
1v1 was fine tho
It's usually a result of the host or someone within' the game. If their connection is very bad it'll lag up the game for the rest of you guys as well. At least that was the case in '08. I'm sure the same conditions apply to this one too though.
liger05
4 October 08, 01:12
Got Fifa 09 today. Started Manager Mode as celtic and got to say the AI is great on this game. I played 4-3-3 with 2 wide strikers with no defensive duties, full backs pushed up always going forward and 2 centre midfield players also supporting the 3 strikers. Anyway every single side I played were taking advantage of the huge gaps in my side out wide and the fact that me defense had no protection at all.
Played a couple of be a pro matches with Ribery at Bayern. Quality!!!!
final lap
4 October 08, 01:18
That is indeed a good point ;)
Actually, I would prefer the Swedish team :DD
Murkurial
4 October 08, 02:37
Got Fifa 09 today. Started Manager Mode as celtic and got to say the AI is great on this game. I played 4-3-3 with 2 wide strikers with no defensive duties, full backs pushed up always going forward and 2 centre midfield players also supporting the 3 strikers. Anyway every single side I played were taking advantage of the huge gaps in my side out wide and the fact that me defense had no protection at all.
Played a couple of be a pro matches with Ribery at Bayern. Quality!!!!
So you're actually able to alter your tactics to tell specific players to push up. Like can you tell your LB or your RB push up or does it have to be both of the fullbacks?
LOL, had to share this bit: A bunch of people on the EA community boards were asking David Rutter and really any EA rep that was on the boards if there was going to be a patch later on to allow us to edit the kit numbers in Manager Mode. Here was Mr. Rutter's response [Note: the response addressed a number of issues, this is just the part pertaining the Manager Mode question]:
"...The changing numbers in MM was removed this year. I've been told it's because a tiny fraction of users used this fairly expensive to maintain feature. It seems from the voices on here that was a mistake, but we'll not be able to fix this in a patch for 09 by the sounds of things..."
^ Seriously? :SS How do they know how many people used an offline feature? And how is that expensive to maintain?
BwA Spectre
4 October 08, 04:07
Come live here for 5 years, then I'll let you in the England team ;)
That would benefit England! They need all the help they can get playerwise. IMO. Not insulting, just saying...I'm honest. Spain too...we weren't that good until the run leading up to the Euro Cup title.
TheWolf
4 October 08, 04:38
This waiting for another ten days here in the U.S. for the game is killing me! I've played the demo to absolute death.
Gunners`
4 October 08, 06:48
what a wonderful game :P am on level 4 in online mode
played: 24 matches W:20 L:4
but am waitting for addidas live season to update my arsenal stats after today match with sunderland :P
PSN ID: NshNsh
if any one wanna be my next Target :P
TikTikTikTikTik
4 October 08, 08:35
Great review from Chris on FSB.
stuartyd
4 October 08, 09:08
Got FIFA09 on Thursday and decided to play it as much as possible before giving my opinion. Overall I am enjoying it, lots of options and so far ahead of PES it's unbelievable but IMO it's not as good as the demo. The responsiveness seems closer to FIFA08 than the demo which I'm sure I'll get used to but i gotta say my heart sank when i found myself pressing buttons and having to wait a second before the action took place and I just can't seem to turn sharply at all. I'm not talking 180 degrees here. I'm talking 45 and 90 degrees, just seems sluggish. I feel like I am crushing the control pad during the game trying to get my players to move. Now don't get me wrong although this is a major issue for me, I got used to it in FIFA 08 and this version is a big enough improvement in other areas to keep me busy for a while.
Here's my thoughts:
Pros:-
Custom Tactics
Need both players to agree to skip cutscenes/replays (love this)
Animations are awesome
Can see the crowd when playing (Tele - height down)
Collision System
Goalkeepers release ball quicker
Net Physics
Stadiums
Atmosphere
Faces (except eyes)
Ball Physics
Dipping volleys
Custom camera angles
Cons:-
Responsiveness (still too sluggish)
Keepers dive dramatically when ball is trundling past them
Close control not as effective as 08
Through ball takes too long to charge up
Advantage rule flaws
Replay framerate
Replay angles (why always from below player?)
Hold button for close control and player dummies ball
Those bloody "Lets FIFA09" signs next to goals (looks awful)
Super Cancel (player slows down when you pull out of run)
Weather issues (as previously mentioned)
Players zombie eyes
Quick unranked match option (takes bout 5 mins to find in menu)
Player switching (as previously mentioned)
Keepers still seem hesitant coming out when button pressed
Too many outside of the foot shots
Player movement doesn't seem free (still on rails)
MM mode issues (as previously mentioned)
No replays of reason for booking after advantage has been played
First time finesse shots are sometimes dummied
High passes cant be knocked forward first time (with chest or head) when pushing right stick
Would like to see in FIFA10:-
Quick free kick
Real time cutscenes/celebrations/bookings etc
Longer replays
Highlights mode (ala Halo's Theater Mode)
Face Import (Tiger08) for all players (so I can put proper faces for generic faces or better faces for official faces - if possible)
Tall players automatically come up for corners
Choose whether to head the ball or volley it (it's fairly random just now)
Editing suite (PES)
Save replays to HD (EA Sportsworld sucks)
Quick select for set piece taker / lay off man
Set play creator
Correct fans celebrate goal (not just stand up and sit down)
If connection is lost during a game on live, say who disconnected/got cut off
Sort the cons and implement the wish list, not much to ask is it Rutter?;))
Adidas Live Season is definitely messing up my game, I can't play with Spurs until its sorted. This morning more players have disappeared.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2910927291_01412b6dec.jpg?v=0
:brick:
Radiation
4 October 08, 09:22
what happens if you put them into your team?
That picture is from the Team Management section, when I click on one of the 'players' the game freezes. When I try to start an exhibition game with Spurs the match doesn't load and I'm stuck in the Arena.
WILDSTER180774
4 October 08, 10:18
enjoyed our club evoweb games last night. It played so much better than i thought it would
andish2001
4 October 08, 10:22
Wow thats really odd.
TikTikTikTikTik
4 October 08, 10:25
LMAO @ Tobi and Spurs
I won't add a pun though ;)
I'm going to have to add quite a few of you to my ps3 friends list as I wouldnt mind having some matches in the weekend.
@ Stuart,
What team did you choose in the retail version? As for me the response is the same for equal teams whilst the 1st touch has been sharpened making it generelly more tight and responsive for me. Odd that for you its different, unless you are using lower league teams. Havent tried any myself.
astirling
4 October 08, 10:45
Got FIFA09 on Thursday and decided to play it as much as possible before giving my opinion. Overall I am enjoying it, lots of options and so far ahead of PES it's unbelievable but IMO it's not as good as the demo. The responsiveness seems closer to FIFA08 than the demo which I'm sure I'll get used to but i gotta say my heart sank when i found myself pressing buttons and having to wait a second before the action took place and I just can't seem to turn sharply at all. I'm not talking 180 degrees here. I'm talking 45 and 90 degrees, just seems sluggish. I feel like I am crushing the control pad during the game trying to get my players to move.
It's not any different mate. Maybe some of the poorer players don't turn as quickly but play with top teams and it's exactly the same.
Placebo
4 October 08, 10:52
Fifa09 as responsive as Fifa08? Sorry but that's pretty ludicrous IMO.
That picture is from the Team Management section, when I click on one of the 'players' the game freezes. When I try to start an exhibition game with Spurs the match doesn't load and I'm stuck in the Arena.
Tobi, that's seriously messed up - have you considered calling the customer service number in the back of the manual?
astirling
4 October 08, 11:04
Sorry....when I said it was not any different, i was talking about FIFA09 full release version in comparison to the FIFA 09 demo.
astirling
4 October 08, 11:05
Tobi, that's seriously messed up - have you considered calling the customer service number in the back of the manual?
Yeah...that's a good idea. Having to listen to a some bloke in a call centre asking you to try switching it off and back on again and charging £16 per minute for the honour.
reddevils
4 October 08, 11:16
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH
http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/996372
;)):COOL:
Yesterday i spent a fair time editing players and team formations then played some games and went to bed, this morning i downloaded the adidas live season update for the first time and what happens? Everything i edited was overwritten :|
Does it mean everytime we download the weekly update we have to overwrite the squad formations and other edit details ( boots , tucked /untucked shirts .. )?
stuartyd
4 October 08, 11:37
Fifa09 as responsive as Fifa08? Sorry but that's pretty ludicrous IMO.
maybe comparing it to 08 is an exaggeration (i've been playing Euro for a while), but definately not as responsive as it should be. Why should the time between pressing a button and the action taking place be increased with a slightly poorer team? Quality of pass, direction, team movement yes but reaction time? I don't buy that IMO
stuartyd
4 October 08, 11:38
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH
http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/996372
;)):COOL:
WOW, peach!! I've never noticed the crowd chearing like that when i score. What version is that?
nabalamma
4 October 08, 11:40
Anyone who wants a game add me - m4hfuz - 360
Nick Cave
4 October 08, 11:41
Yesterday i spent a fair time editing players and team formations then played some games and went to bed, this morning i downloaded the adidas live season update for the first time and what happens? Everything i edited was overwritten :|
Does it mean everytime we download the weekly update we have to overwrite the squad formations and other edit details ( boots , tucked /untucked shirts .. )?
Looks like it will, that's going to be annoying...
reddevils
4 October 08, 11:42
WOW, peach!! I've never noticed the crowd chearing like that when i score. What version is that?
360
Looks like it will, that's going to be annoying...
That's bloody ridiculous!
I'm not buying any other league updates if they don't fix this.
Fifa 09 is a superb game and if your into Football id get a PS3 or Xbox 360 the graphics look exactly the same
If you mean FIFA looks the same, it very much doesn't.
The 360 version is FAR better looking than the PS3 version.
But, the PS3 version feels different, and is much faster.
I can't yet decide which I prefer, and to an certain extent, the feel so different, I'm tempted to keep both.
astirling
4 October 08, 11:54
Just want to give some recognition to the EA guys hanging around on their official forum.
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/
It's unusual for people to put themselves in the firing line like this but it does wonders for the developer's reputation. I really hope they keep this up. The more accessable they are, the better their future games are likely to be.
DagsJT
4 October 08, 11:59
Is there any point in improving mentality stats for your BAP player? Stats like aggression, tactical awareness, positioning and vision don't really come into it when you're controlling the player, right?
DagsJT
4 October 08, 12:01
Looks like the play-off's are indeed in
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/345731-playoffs.html
http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p0410081150cf0.jpg
Looks like the play-off's are indeed in
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/345731-playoffs.html
http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p0410081150cf0.jpg
I'd like to believe it, but I take pretty much everything I read on that forum with a very large lump of salt...
DagsJT
4 October 08, 12:06
Even with the photo?
Nick Cave
4 October 08, 12:07
play offs in that's another good point that makes the things left out just that bit more annoying...
Even with the photo?
Oh, there isn't a pic for me.
DagsJT
4 October 08, 12:10
http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p0410081150cf0.jpg
Nick Cave
4 October 08, 12:11
Oh, there isn't a pic for me.
Yeah it's in there and it does look real...
Trance_Allstar
4 October 08, 12:13
Not sure it's been mentioned here, and I just discovered it yesterday.
Normal 90 degree turn - Hold Analog stick 90 degrees to the side
Sidestep Turn - Tap the analog stick to the side, don't hold.
Not sure if there are any other benefits of doing a sidestep, like being able to shimmy in another direction more quickly than a normal turn.
Check it out guys, maybe we can find some type of turn or such that could become very useful.
Also, not sure but there might be a different animation for holding LT and doing a 90 degree turn in the manners above aswell.
Like maybe you can do a sidestep turn, and then immediately roll the ball back the other way with [LT + Right stick to the side 90 degrees].
Experiment. :)
jaygrim
4 October 08, 12:35
I played Bobby last night and in the second half he made two subs and i couldn't see them. He just had a ball running round on its own.
BobbyBox
4 October 08, 12:37
I played Bobby last night and in the second half he made two subs and i couldn't see them. He just had a ball running round on its own.
I scored with one of my invisible players aswell :DD
jaygrim
4 October 08, 12:44
Yes i know.
I played Bobby last night and in the second half he made two subs and i couldn't see them. He just had a ball running round on its own.
That happened to me once, I was playing a guy online, he bought babel on and he was invisible. Used to happen in Euro but if you paused it , it rectified itself, however in 09' , it doesn't work. Its on a list to be reported to EA.
BillyBoy
4 October 08, 13:59
Its on a list to be reported to EA.
Does the bug where you only see the rain in cutscenes get reported as well?
jflores
4 October 08, 14:02
Someone on her said that the final version of Fifa09 is less responsive than the Demo. In all honesty, is this true?
I certainly hope not since the demo feels damn near perfect to me in terms of responsiveness with AC Milan, Chelsea, and Real Madrid.
Can someone give me an accurate answer on this?
Nick Cave
4 October 08, 14:02
That happened to me once, I was playing a guy online, he bought babel on and he was invisible. Used to happen in Euro but if you paused it , it rectified itself, however in 09' , it doesn't work. Its on a list to be reported to EA.
And that stupid turning round and running alongside the ball bug, and a general moan at the shoddy treatment of the MM, sod that it will be looked at and all new 2010 crap...:LOL:
Placebo
4 October 08, 14:03
Does the bug where you only see the rain in cutscenes get reported as well?
It was one of the first things on my list, here's what I've reported so far:
1. Rain/Snow not being visible during a match.
2. No variable weather during manager mode (yet BAP has this).
3. Player of the season in manager mode being given to someone who played only 2 matches.
4. Slowdown/Tearing in 360 version (seen this a couple of times myself in the demo and it's being reported as also in the retail version).
5. Players running past through balls (there's a video of this which I can dig up).
6. In BAP you get marked down for putting in a cross that the AI teammates don't make contact with, even if it's a great cross, (you shouldn't be punished for this).
7. When playing BAP Seasons, you can't pick the team or change tactics pre-game until you're captain. But you can change the tactics in-game with the Dpad
8. Weird AI behaviour by generated players in BAP, more here: http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1460388&postcount=6817
Chris also reported the no weather changes in MM which I also strongly agree needs fixing.
Anything else please post here (but make it obvious that you're posting it as something we should notice and be reporting, lots of posts on lots of forums right now so it's easy to miss stuff!).
Nick Cave
4 October 08, 14:03
Someone on her said that the final version of Fifa09 is less responsive than the Demo. In all honesty, is this true?
I certainly hope not since the demo feels damn near perfect to me in terms of responsiveness with AC Milan, Chelsea, and Real Madrid.
Can someone give me an accurate answer on this?
I didn't notice it, if anything it runs a little smoother...
Placebo
4 October 08, 14:04
And that stupid turning round and running alongside the ball bug, and a general moan at the shoddy treatment of the MM, sod that it will be looked at and all new 2010 crap...:LOL:
Number 5 on my list, but if you can dig up that video please do so :)
Nick Cave
4 October 08, 14:05
Number 5 on my list, but if you can dig up that video please do so :)
I've had it twice, i'll have to get it saved next time...
Placebo
4 October 08, 14:16
I've had it twice, i'll have to get it saved next time...
Well someone posted a youtube video of it in here, just with 38 new pages per day I couldn't be arsed to hunt for it ;)
Seraphs21
4 October 08, 14:26
Played my first game of it today, didnt have chance yesterday haha, went town and bought it before went out for mates bday hence didnt get the chance.
So its all set up similar to 08, so went to normal match, thought I would do a Inter vs Milan derby game to start. I put the start thing on like I play football games for my life mode thing the highest one... I won 5-1 easily, so after I was expecting to be on a low difficulty, find out it was on World Class... hopefully It isnt gonna be that easy. Will have to have more games though for definite, probs on Legendary. See how it goes, but from what I see its similar to demo, so all good.
I personally dont like the make your own celebration thing, I think it takes away from the goal, like the immediate reaction of the player scoring, jusf doesnt feel right, its like a stupid little mini game after a goal each time. But meh, guess its fun for the first couple of times.
Well someone posted a youtube video of it in here, just with 38 new pages per day I couldn't be arsed to hunt for it ;)
Do you mean this sort of thing:
http://homepage.mac.com/picsilike/.Public/FIFA.mov
(sorry about the darkness)
Thoril Thunderaxe
4 October 08, 14:39
There is one other tiny bug that I discovered:
In the home Arena my controls are on manuals but when you are in the arena before the beginning of the match, all controls gone assisted unlike my configuration.
Forgive me for any possible errors of language but i'm French ;)
shieldslfc
4 October 08, 14:59
It was one of the first things on my list, here's what I've reported so far:
1. Rain/Snow not being visible during a match.
2. No variable weather during manager mode (yet BAP has this).
3. Player of the season in manager mode being given to someone who played only 2 matches.
4. Slowdown/Tearing in 360 version (seen this a couple of times myself in the demo and it's being reported as also in the retail version).
5. Players running past through balls (there's a video of this which I can dig up).
6. In BAP you get marked down for putting in a cross that the AI teammates don't make contact with, even if it's a great cross, (you shouldn't be punished for this).
7. When playing BAP Seasons, you can't pick the team or change tactics pre-game until you're captain. But you can change the tactics in-game with the Dpad
8. Weird AI behaviour by generated players in BAP, more here: http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1460388&postcount=6817
Chris also reported the no weather changes in MM which I also strongly agree needs fixing.
Anything else please post here (but make it obvious that you're posting it as something we should notice and be reporting, lots of posts on lots of forums right now so it's easy to miss stuff!).
Dont forget the advantage rule being fooked up most of the time.
Placebo
4 October 08, 14:59
Do you mean this sort of thing:
http://homepage.mac.com/picsilike/.Public/FIFA.mov
(sorry about the darkness)
Aha yeah that's the exact video I was thinking of! It was you playing? Can you give any more details please, what kind of match were you playing? It was a through ball you played to your attacker? Manual/Semi/Assisted through ball? Thanks.
I'll convert it to wmv, brighten it a bit and send it to Suff to pass on to EA :)
Placebo
4 October 08, 15:01
Dont forget the advantage rule being fooked up most of the time.
Yeah I reported that to Suff in a follow up Email:
Also there are huge problems being reported with the advantage rule's application (basically it's as bad as the demo):
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/344933-players-advantage-gone-wrong-pulled-up-foul-after-youve-scored.html
People breaking a tackle to score a goal, and then the ref pulling play back to give a penalty of freekick instead.
Aha yeah that's the exact video I was thinking of! It was you playing? Can you give any more details please, what kind of match were you playing? It was a through ball you played to your attacker? Manual/Semi/Assisted through ball? Thanks.
I'll convert it to wmv, brighten it a bit and send it to Suff to pass on to EA :)
MM match, through ball, Assisted /runs
Might as well say in this post there seems to be a lot of differences between the PS3 and 360 versions.
I've had snow in the PS3 version (Exhibition match obviously), and it was VERY visable using Telecam minimum zoom.
Graphics generally are far better on the 360, but the PS3 version is faster, and to me, feels slightly more responsive.
Not sure which version I prefer.
SXFuzz
4 October 08, 15:16
check this goal out:
http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/962365
:-pp :-D couldnt believe it when it went in :LOL: :DD
How long have you been able to upload your replays? I've not once been able to connect to the server, not even now that the game is officially available, even though I've never had a problem uploading screenshots.
SXFuzz
4 October 08, 15:19
Adidas Live Season is definitely messing up my game, I can't play with Spurs until its sorted. This morning more players have disappeared.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2910927291_01412b6dec.jpg?v=0
:brick:
SPURS PLAYERS GO MISSING SHOCKER
Milanista
4 October 08, 15:22
I've bought all the leagues for Live Season but only La Liga doesnt work!!!! I've purchased it but the game doesnt show that its ticked still!
Metallica
4 October 08, 15:29
Does anyone know a site that gives you entire button configuration ?
Cheers
Placebo
4 October 08, 15:37
MM match, through ball, Assisted /runs
I was confused for a while trying to figure out what "assisted runs" are ;))
Thanks I'll pass it on :)
liger05
4 October 08, 15:38
So you're actually able to alter your tactics to tell specific players to push up. Like can you tell your LB or your RB push up or does it have to be both of the fullbacks?
You can alter individual players tactically.
SXFuzz
4 October 08, 15:39
Greatest celebration ever?
YouTube - FIFA 09, choreographed celebration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU6_xtsGIHw)
PetrovLFC
4 October 08, 15:43
The crossing is absolutley horrible, its like watching Jermaine Pennant cross a ball filled with Helium.
jflores
4 October 08, 15:47
One question to those who have the game already. Is the night lighting bad as it looked on past vids?
SXFuzz
4 October 08, 15:47
The crossing is absolutley horrible, its like watching Jermaine Pennant cross a ball filled with Helium.
I also hate the crossing in general, even though you can occasionally whip out an absolute gem. I also find that ground passing inside the box to be incredibly awkward.
I don't like using assisted through balls or passing, but I detest the way in which [on manual] you have to hold a button for 1/2 seconds to get any amount of power on a pass, by which time you've lost the ball.
Placebo
4 October 08, 15:47
Pfft I've put in plenty of decent crosses with Championship and League2 players, there's so many variations of crossing, you should do some experimenting......
Shooting! I'm rubbish at it. Any tips? I do take of the sprint, but I always shoot over. I am using Semi.
Mr_Wenger
4 October 08, 15:56
what settings do you use for crossing placebo? which do you find to be best, im loving the game, but like others im not to keen on the crosses, the headers are good when they happen, but my crossing has been shockingly bad. do u hold the left bumper when you cross, my crosses always seem to go behind everyone like i cross and am trying to cross to the middle but it crosses to the edge of the box.
any detailed crossing tips would be much appreciated.
thanx
Placebo
4 October 08, 15:57
Shooting! I'm rubbish at it. Any tips? I do take of the sprint, but I always shoot over. I am using Semi.
Did you read the shooting section of the official playing guide?
Trance_Allstar
4 October 08, 15:58
Pfft I've put in plenty of decent crosses with Championship and League2 players, there's so many variations of crossing, you should do some experimenting......
Any specific pointers?
Like for example, I've yet to figure out how the LB crosses actually work.
I know it is one press for high, two for medium and 3 for low cross a la PES.
But can you also power them up aswell as decide their height, or is it like PES (where if you use LB crosses, the power is automatically decided).
And if you can indeed decide the power for the LB crosses with the power bar that appears, how exactly do you power up properly.
Say you are going to do a medium height cross (LB and Longpass x2). After you hold LB, do you go [press and hold to power up the power you want, then release and tap the button again to get the 2 presse sin there], or do you first tap the button, then press it again and hold for the power?
I've not seen it described anywhere from the devs so not sure which it is. :)
Placebo
4 October 08, 15:59
what settings do you use for crossing placebo? which do you find to be best, im loving the game, but like others im not to keen on the crosses, the headers are good when they happen, but my crossing has been shockingly bad. do u hold the left bumper when you cross, my crosses always seem to go behind everyone like i cross and am trying to cross to the middle but it crosses to the edge of the box.
any detailed crossing tips would be much appreciated.
thanx
I play manual on everything but shooting (semi). I prefer the "difficulty" that all manual introduces because I can then play on a lower (professional) level and the AI is still competitive without it cheating, I also stick to playing with lesser teams instead of having a team filled with world stars (just started a Grimsby Town manager mode and my best player is on 64) :))
astirling
4 October 08, 16:01
I find that holding down the close control button before shooting helps.
Tobi, that's seriously messed up - have you considered calling the customer service number in the back of the manual?
I think I'll register on the official boards and make a thread, hopefully someone important will see it otherwise I'll send them an email.
Placebo
4 October 08, 16:06
Any specific pointers?
Like for example, I've yet to figure out how the LB crosses actually work.
I know it is one press for high, two for medium and 3 for low cross a la PES.
But can you also power them up aswell as decide their height, or is it like PES (where if you use LB crosses, the power is automatically decided).
And if you can indeed decide the power for the LB crosses with the power bar that appears, how exactly do you power up properly.
Say you are going to do a medium height cross (LB and Longpass x2). After you hold LB, do you go [press and hold to power up the power you want, then release and tap the button again to get the 2 presse sin there], or do you first tap the button, then press it again and hold for the power?
I've not seen it described anywhere from the devs so not sure which it is. :)
I find bodyshape makes a big difference, I try to do it so I run on the wing in a straight line, then before I want to cross I open the wingers bodyshape slightly away from the goal, so that he has a more natural leg/foot position to cross the ball, this also helps to add curl to move it away from the keeper.
As for the tapping, I tend to hold and power, then do tap tap before releasing.
I thought with early crosses the height is decided but you control the power? I certainly find that most of my early crosses have a lower move vicious trajectory, I believe early crosses are any crosses outside a line parallel to the 18 yard box :)
(I should actually read the playing guide at some point, didn't get round to it yet!).
I find that holding down the close control button before shooting helps.
Yeah it makes a huge difference and I always try to do it for anything >10 yards out or so (as long as I have time).
Placebo
4 October 08, 16:07
I think I'll register on the official boards and make a thread, hopefully someone important will se it otherwise I'll send them an email.
If you want me to make the post for you on there I'd be happy to.
If you want me to make the post for you on there I'd be happy to.
That would be nice, thanks.
:TU:
Placebo
4 October 08, 16:16
That would be nice, thanks.
:TU:
No worries, if you write the post with pics and PM me it (or Email if you prefer which I can send via PM) I'll post it for you.
Shockin' The Prem
4 October 08, 16:20
I just got tackled, kept the ball and played the sweetest pass through to my striker, just as he got to it and was through on goal the ref blew the whistle and gave me the foul, in the other half. So, so FUCKING annoying!
The fact that the ref goes back and yellow cards someone 10 minutes after the foul happened EVERY time is also very frustrating.
Offside seems a bit too precise for my liking, half the offsides I've been given wouldn't of actually been seen by a human linesman, the lines are practically touching when it shows how offside I am. There also seems to be a delay on through ball so by the time you see a player running then the ball doesn't actually go through until he's strayed offside (by about 1mm).
It may be hard to believe I'm quite enjoying the game, as I've now more or less got used to the shooting, but I am. I always rant at the latest PES, and I can accept games have flaws. Just these seem to be so continuous and effect the game dramatically it's starting to wind me up.
Also, can anyone tell me if there's any equivalent to the Super Cancel on PES? (Both R1+R2 at the same time)
Placebo
4 October 08, 16:22
Also, can anyone tell me if there's any equivalent to the Super Cancel on PES? (Both R1+R2 at the same time)
Check the manual or control list, it's called cancel.
SXFuzz
4 October 08, 16:23
my crosses always seem to go behind everyone like i cross and am trying to cross to the middle but it crosses to the edge of the box.
thanx
Two of my mates and I have already done more than 1 season on manager mode, playing on the same team. This (your quote) is EXACTLY what has been happening to us. As for experimenting, playing over 100 games on 5 minutes is surely enough to give a fair assessment of the crossing.
If I'm at the top left of the screen, 10 yards from the byline, why when I hold the stick at 6 o'clock (bearing in mind that I'm using manual) does the cross come in at 4 o'clock, aiming for the D of the box!?
evacuate
4 October 08, 16:26
Do you guys think it's a bug that you can't change tactics in the reserve team even when you're reserve captain? I mean what's the point of being a captain for the reserves? Gives you absolutely nothing at all from what I can see. Maybe I'm missing something over here...
Edit: I'm talking about when playing BAP Season mode.
shieldslfc
4 October 08, 16:45
Yeah I reported that to Suff in a follow up Email:
Ok, and a very small easy fix, when your playing tournament mode, and you get a picture of the sports page of the newspaper, the headline reads "West Ham IS defeated by ......." instead of West Ham ARE. I know very small and picky, but its easy to fix, and why not make the best footy game ever, even more perfect.
Shockin' The Prem
4 October 08, 16:47
Check the manual or control list, it's called cancel.
Thanks, found it.
shieldslfc
4 October 08, 16:50
Two of my mates and I have already done more than 1 season on manager mode, playing on the same team. This (your quote) is EXACTLY what has been happening to us. As for experimenting, playing over 100 games on 5 minutes is surely enough to give a fair assessment of the crossing.
If I'm at the top left of the screen, 10 yards from the byline, why when I hold the stick at 6 o'clock (bearing in mind that I'm using manual) does the cross come in at 4 o'clock, aiming for the D of the box!?
I know what you mean, I can aim it ok from the bottom flank, most of my crossers go were I want them to go, but when I am at the top of the screen crossing downwards, it seems harder and most go behind the player.
I hope next year instead of the arena, they give us the whole pitch with team mates, so we can practice this sort of stuff (like in Pes)
PetrovLFC
4 October 08, 17:01
You can put some good crosses in, but they just don't feel right. PES 4,5 and 6 had the feel of crosses spot on. In Fifa the long passing in general is just too floaty and the trajectory just isn't realistic.
Thoril Thunderaxe
4 October 08, 17:06
There is one other tiny bug that I discovered:
In the home Arena my controls are on manuals but when you are in the arena before the beginning of the match, all controls gone assisted unlike my configuration.
Forgive me for any possible errors of language but i'm French ;)
Sorry to repost it but am I the only one who have this bug ?
I've got no problem during the match only during the arena before the beginning of the match.
PS: I'm playing on 360.
ptfcdb
4 October 08, 17:08
Has anyone with the ps3 version been able to upload any replays?
Placebo
4 October 08, 17:12
Ok, and a very small easy fix, when your playing tournament mode, and you get a picture of the sports page of the newspaper, the headline reads "West Ham IS defeated by ......." instead of West Ham ARE. I know very small and picky, but its easy to fix, and why not make the best footy game ever, even more perfect.
Yeah there were other "bad English" things in Fifa08 and Fifa07 as well.
I had a nighttime match in MM a while ago followed by a daytime match
Nick Cave
4 October 08, 17:15
I had a night match in MM a while ago followed by a day match
what were you drinking... :LOL:
astirling
4 October 08, 17:17
Ok, and a very small easy fix, when your playing tournament mode, and you get a picture of the sports page of the newspaper, the headline reads "West Ham IS defeated by ......." instead of West Ham ARE. I know very small and picky, but its easy to fix, and why not make the best footy game ever, even more perfect.
Yeah.....and Hearts in the SPL are referred to as 'Heart'
wan_d7
4 October 08, 17:24
yeah i agree. FIFA's cross still feel floaty. i mean whenever i wanna change side with a high pass the pass float high and when it reach to my player, the opponent player already taking possession. that's not cool.
Nick Cave
4 October 08, 17:32
Yep the crossing is a little floaty most of the time but I'm struggling with power too, I need to re think how I cross from 08 I think...
BillyBoy
4 October 08, 17:35
Its not a bug but Helton (FC Porto GK) should be wearing sports trousers instead of shorts. :-pp Do any GK's in FIFA 09 have them?
Placebo
4 October 08, 17:42
Its not a bug but Helton (FC Porto GK) should be wearing sports trousers instead of shorts. :-pp Do any GK's in FIFA 09 have them?
No but it's something we data editors suggested in the internal forum so hopefully next time......
laworder
4 October 08, 17:44
do you guys use manual,semi,or assisted pass?
what do most "top" players use?
just curious..
LOL someone posted this on a BAP trailers on gametrailers
they are coping pro evolution with the sound thing......and that thing where the yellow spot shows where the ball is gonna drop,pro did it first,theres nothing wrong with fifa doing it too,because there both soccer games.all im trying to say is fifa need to be a lot more original......btw love the game
How much more original can you get with BAp Seasons and 10v10 online
Just started my second season on BAP: Seasons. Still noticing a lot fot he old "FIFAristics" i.e making my player stall so the CPU can take the ball from me.
Feels like the gameplay has been masked by the new animations, perhaps i need to give 08 a quick blast before i say that though.
Still, not knocking, more 'knit picking'... enjoying it a lot.
Oh yea, one slight downside:
In BAP everytime you ask for a pass, if the CPU decides not to pass it to you, you get marked down. I think, rather than encouraging you to pick and choose when you ask for the ball, its encouraging you not to get yourself involved in the game as, ultimately, its the CPU who has the final say no whether you call is "worthy" of response.
Quite a few times i've made a run from midfield to break through the opposition defence, or made myself space for a team mate under pressure and they've ignored my call and either lost the ball or passed to another player who is in no position to accept the pass and the ball is turned over.
Small i know but it really is annoying and imo not right. Along the same lines as; "Cross, teammate misses, -Pass"
Nick Cave
4 October 08, 17:53
Yeah the stalling thing is still in there though not as bad, it can still be annoying...
Jamezinho
4 October 08, 17:59
One question to those who have the game already. Is the night lighting bad as it looked on past vids?
It's not improved on Fifa08. It depends on the stadium, though. I played a night game at the Allianz Arena and the whole pitch was lit, but at the Mestalla there was still darkness around the edges of the pitch. It's a shame as the lighting was nailed in the Euro game, as was the weather.
It's infuriating how EA can produce such a brilliant game, yet fuck-up on so many of the basics.:brick:
Skylight
4 October 08, 18:02
Aha yeah that's the exact video I was thinking of! It was you playing? Can you give any more details please, what kind of match were you playing? It was a through ball you played to your attacker? Manual/Semi/Assisted through ball? Thanks.
I'll convert it to wmv, brighten it a bit and send it to Suff to pass on to EA :)
that's what annoys me the most at the moment
it happens to the CPU basically in any match i make, no matter if BAP, MM oder friendlies
happens with through balls as well as with long passes
i think I can stop it with a super cancel but it really is frustrating
the gameplay is so fluid and great, i hope this will be fixed, but you know EA Sports attitude with patching :((
thanks for your efforts, maybe you can achieve something
laworder
4 October 08, 18:03
do you guys use manual,semi,or assisted pass?
what do most "top" players use?
just curious..
sorry to ask again...
Nick Cave
4 October 08, 18:10
sorry to ask again...
I use semi on pass and shooting, manual rest...
then again I'm not a top player...:LOL:
please someone post the link to that official guide again, can't find the link anymore
WEtongelre
4 October 08, 18:20
http://www.sweetpatch.tv/FIFA09Guide
Placebo
4 October 08, 18:21
please someone post the link to that official guide again, can't find the link anymore
http://www.sweetpatch.tv/FIFA09Guide
http://www.operationsports.com/forums/fifa-discussion/270383-official-players-guide-fifa09-ea-sports-updated-9-28-56k-warning.html
Placebo I'll write up my post and PM it to you tomorrow, thanks again.
Spent all day playing MM and i absolutely love it but there are some things i would like to report:
-Teams celebrating draws/losses in the end of the game cut scene , (how weird is that?)
-In the start of a new season you can see players with scored goals but the teams they play for have zero games
-Adidas live season update overwrites all edited data
Murkurial
4 October 08, 20:44
I think I remember seeing a picture of this in the game, but does anyone know if they have Manchester United with their red top and black shorts in the game?
kobashi
4 October 08, 21:10
this goal is crazy!!
http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/957461
evacuate
4 October 08, 21:31
sorry to ask again...
I would think the people that is high on ea leaderboards are playing on assisted, maybe some settings on semi. Because those settings make everything so much easier.
If you want a challange and play realistic then you should go with manual and some on semi. When I play BAP Season I have manual on everything but semi on normal passes so it is possible to hit longer passes without taking a second to fill up the meter. However when playing BAP online I will probably use some more on semi because I would assume that everyone else play ass/semi in that mode.
Really hate the through balls on manual, was perfect in euro and I can't use them at all now. takes forever to fill up the meter... Probably the one thing I hate the most with 09.
pepper63
4 October 08, 21:32
this goal is crazy!!
http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/957461I don't want to play that c**t.:SS
Roninho10
4 October 08, 22:34
does anyone know how to change the game speed on ps3?
ptfcdb
4 October 08, 22:35
Has anyone with the ps3 version been able to upload any replays?
Anyone?
Keith Houchen
4 October 08, 22:56
Anyone?
No, I haven't been able to upload either and I'd love to know the answer.
I'd also like to know if any other PS3 owners have been able to set up online games against specific other players.
I can join Quick matches against random bods fine, but when I try to set up or join a room to play someone in particular, it doesn't work. Tried last night and tonight to set up games against two friends We get to the team selection screen, and it freezes and kicks us out a few seconds later. None of our connections are at fault. I think... Anyone got any suggestions? The official EA forums are pretty silent about this, so I assume it's not a widespread issue.
Murkurial
4 October 08, 23:17
I think I remember seeing a picture of this in the game, but does anyone know if they have Manchester United with their red top and black shorts in the game?
Not trying to clog up the thread, but I'm sure that somebody has played with or against Man United in the game. Do they have their red top and black short combination or is it only the red and white?
gurjisfit
4 October 08, 23:39
can't understand why they've changed night lihting from euro either - was perfect whereas now it doesn't resemble any stadium i've ever seen. Stadium europa, which seems to be wankdorf unlicensed has good night lighting.
anyone know how to get snow?
dotkira
4 October 08, 23:48
Guys I've been playing FIFA09 this weekend (Xbox360) and it's everything I expected.
However, I am finding online play shockingly bad.
- Every game is against some Inter/Barca/Brazil faggot.
- I play on all semi and some manual controls, but many people I've played against are surely using fully assisted controls and scoring some stupid goals, it's completely killing the realism for me.
- There is no way to force people to play semi, it's "any", "assisted" or full manual which no one seems to be playing with anyway. This is a really stupid move on EA's part as you are basically forced to play on any the whole time.
- You can't see the control settings of the other person, I want to at least know if the opponent is using auto shooting so I can switch it on to make it fair.
- The host should be able to set the game speed, is it all on normal? Because I swear I've played a few matches that have been running at warp speed.
I've been playing some multiplayer games with my bro on slow game speed with all semi or manual controls and it's been phenomenal, a true representation of football. I then go online and it's a bunch of gimps that want to play the game "arcade style".
Anyone annoyed by this, or are there options there that I am missing perhaps.
Cheers.
astirling
4 October 08, 23:50
I just played a manager mode game at night. It was night for that match and then back to day again for the next. I hadn't adjusted my exhibition match settings either as I'd just loaded the game up. Are there any stadiums which only allow night matches?
reddevils
4 October 08, 23:51
WTF 3-5 man utd players have disappeared like Rooney, berbatov
WTF EA!!!! such an awesome game ruined by glitches
anyway to fix it and does anyone know what causes it
luke909
4 October 08, 23:52
I play online but I've yet to see anyone play as Inter or Brazil, everyone seems to be Manchester United, I must've played over 20 different Man Utds, and loads of Chelsea's and Madrid's.
It makes it sweeter when I hammer them all as Villa, with them quitting once I get 3.
They all seem to play on assisted everything, then give the ball to Ronaldo and attempt to skin my whole back four, which isn't happening.
Murkurial
4 October 08, 23:55
WTF 3-5 man utd players have disappeared like Rooney, berbatov
WTF EA!!!! such an awesome game ruined by glitches
anyway to fix it and does anyone know what causes it
Are you serious? Does this have something to do with the Adidas Live Season?
dotkira
4 October 08, 23:58
So what can you do about these noobs just whoring top teams with assisted controls? Nothing it seems? What the hell are EA playing at? This has totally ruined the online experience for me and I'm now in two minds as to whether I should shell out on a 360.
pboreham
5 October 08, 00:06
Bah! Its no good, I cannot kid myself to like FIFA. :(
I find it dull, frustrating and it doesnt flow like FIFA.
The manager mode is just as dull as nothing happens to your team, no injuries, no point in doing transfers.
The gameplay is 'ok'. I can see they have busted a gut and they are so NEARLY there for me.
What finally made my mind up is sitting here playing a MM game and each time a match kicks off I instantly think "wow, this is great. Looks fab, sounds fab - cannot wait to play the match" - but every game is the same grind, trying to create the same openings etc. I can barely get any shots off - and I know I dont like it as I'm not very good at the game (how you guys play on World Class I'll never know).
I'll be listing this for sale next week methinks.
Sorry FIFA, I tried to love you!
Bingham67
5 October 08, 00:09
WTF 3-5 man utd players have disappeared like Rooney, berbatov
WTF EA!!!! such an awesome game ruined by glitches
anyway to fix it and does anyone know what causes it
Not seen it myself but friend said he lost 5 players not good.
Bah! Its no good, I cannot kid myself to like FIFA. :(
I find it dull, frustrating and it doesnt flow like FIFA.
The manager mode is just as dull as nothing happens to your team, no injuries, no point in doing transfers.
The gameplay is 'ok'. I can see they have busted a gut and they are so NEARLY there for me.
What finally made my mind up is sitting here playing a MM game and each time a match kicks off I instantly think "wow, this is great. Looks fab, sounds fab - cannot wait to play the match" - but every game is the same grind, trying to create the same openings etc. I can barely get any shots off - and I know I dont like it as I'm not very good at the game (how you guys play on World Class I'll never know).
I'll be listing this for sale next week methinks.
Sorry FIFA, I tried to love you!So you give up on FIFA after 2 days, love the PES demo and love GRID. I get the picture that you are not the sort of person who likes realistic games :-pp.
If you can't create chances:
1) Try manual controls for lob passes and through balls, really gives you the freedom to play killer passes.
2) Be more patient, playing the PES style is useless, keep the ball.
3) Mess around with the tactics until you find a combination which suits you.
If you still don't single player after trying that, then there's always BAP Seasons, a very good mode :)).
Getting frustrated after a couple of days and giving in and then going and playing an easy and arcadey game in PES seems a bit silly to me :-ll.
I still get frustrated with FIFA sometimes, I think everyone does, but god trading it in already for PES? Noooo don't do it!
I am loving BAP online at the moment, really good. I'm also into my 6th day on manager mode, bit annoyed that you can't manually change kit numbers but oh well, the gameplay is great. Going to start a BAP offline seasons session soon, not sure whether to make a whole new player or an existing one.
Rodelero
5 October 08, 01:18
FIFA is not a game without frustration. Frankly, no game is... It's a lot less frustrating than FIFA, and winners are definitely decided more by skill than last time. It's just the downside of having a very complicated physical game, without having the same accuracy with the animations. Pretty much all problems come from players not reacting as well as they would in real life, either in AI decisions, or by lack of an animation which fits.
Honestly, though, if you are just failing to get the chances you want, you need to play more, or drop the difficulty level.
Nick Cave
5 October 08, 01:18
I better get some injuries soon in MM or I'm getting placebo to make sure they sort it in a patch...
I got a groin strain, ahem, on Drogba but it only lasted a few days. Bah. I do hope we get injury's that last a few months because that would make MM much more interesting.
Nick Cave
5 October 08, 01:24
It's as annoying as the demo seemed to have plenty, it's a large part of the modern game today too...
reddevils
5 October 08, 01:28
fuck no man, i sold alot of my defenders and wingers and couldnt replace them so i am stuck with a thin ass squad lolllolol so please FIFA NO INJURIES :P
Nick Cave
5 October 08, 01:33
fuck no man, i sold alot of my defenders and wingers and couldnt replace them so i am stuck with a thin ass squad lolllolol so please FIFA NO INJURIES :P
:LOL: I was going to say another annoyance is the fact you can't pick a really low paying sponsor to make the cash flow tighter too...
ryan437
5 October 08, 03:02
there is also the offside rule needs to be changed in fifa ref blows before i even touch the ball..... should only get call once i touch the ball
Is there a way to save one arena mode, as I have had 3 different ones and quite like the Japan version
Yeah I was hoping for that option to keep to one arena but I don't think there is one.
Murkurial
5 October 08, 04:12
Anybody who's played with Manchester United, do you know if they have the red top and black shorts combination for their kit at all. I know that they have the home, away, and third shirts, but I think I remember seeing a picture of the game with the United players in the red and black. Anyone?
danhammer
5 October 08, 09:37
fifa is great, you have to really carve out chances...which is what real football is all about....but some people are happy to have end to end action
played my brother last night online (he lives about 200 miles away), and the first two games finished as draws....which happens
Jamie LUFC
5 October 08, 09:37
Anybody who's played with Manchester United, do you know if they have the red top and black shorts combination for their kit at all. I know that they have the home, away, and third shirts, but I think I remember seeing a picture of the game with the United players in the red and black. Anyone?
No, they dont.
jaygrim
5 October 08, 09:56
I changed my arena player to Ronaldo last night and then got Ronaldinho in a Utd shirt.
pboreham
5 October 08, 10:08
So you give up on FIFA after 2 days, love the PES demo and love GRID. I get the picture that you are not the sort of person who likes realistic games :-pp.
If you can't create chances:
1) Try manual controls for lob passes and through balls, really gives you the freedom to play killer passes.
2) Be more patient, playing the PES style is useless, keep the ball.
3) Mess around with the tactics until you find a combination which suits you.
If you still don't single player after trying that, then there's always BAP Seasons, a very good mode :)).
Getting frustrated after a couple of days and giving in and then going and playing an easy and arcadey game in PES seems a bit silly to me :-ll.
FIFA seems to be creating a new sort of 'football gaming fan' - one that believes "you have to be a hardcore football fan to enjoy it". Its gaming snobbery.
I absolutely agree that FIFA is more realistic and I'm sure EA have an incredibly complicated physics engine chugging away underneath all the pretty graphics.
But I still maintain - and this is true across ALL games, there comes a point when realism = less fun. Just because something is realistic, doesnt automatically make it a good game.
You used GRID as an example...
Gran Turismo is more realistic (and admitedly superb), but GRID is 'more fun' to play.
Tiger Woods is more realistic than Everybody's Golf - but Everybody's Golf is more fun to play.
And I feel the same about FIFA and PES. And its not just a case of having FIFA a few days and chucking it in - it has very much the same feel of 08, which I became bored of after prolonged play.
With PES, I've never really had all the problems most of Evo Web have. AI cheats, on rails passing etc etc - to me, it just plays a more enjoyable game of football where it feels like anything can happen and every goal/game has the potential to be different.
I will keep trying with FIFA as it has 'something' and believe me, I do WANT it to be great and I do want to enjoy it as I feel with like 5% more tweaking, it could become an absolutely awesome on pitch experience.
But I'm glad so many people like it - and its a shame that PES and FIFA fans cannot appreciate that the other may like another style of game.
evacuate
5 October 08, 10:17
Have you tried BAP anything? Personally I think normal singleplayer in FIFA is still pants because your own team AI are so bad and don't try to help you out. But in BAP the AI is amazing and there are no cpu cheats at all. I sometimes used to play with fixed player in PES and I can tell you that the AI in FIFA is miles better than PES. Can't even compare the two. Really amazing what EA has done there.
pboreham
5 October 08, 10:21
Have you tried BAP anything? Personally I think normal singleplayer in FIFA is still pants because your own team AI are so bad and don't try to help you out. But in BAP the AI is amazing and there are no cpu cheats at all. I sometimes used to play with fixed player in PES and I can tell you that the AI in FIFA is miles better than PES. Can't even compare the two. Really amazing what EA has done there.
Yea, I've got a BAP Season running, which is ok and I've done some online BAP which is very good.
Thats one of the factors I'll consider if I'm going to keep it, but the PES BAL mode interests me alot, so that could fill that hole come the 17th.
pepper63
5 October 08, 10:29
Guys I've been playing FIFA09 this weekend (Xbox360) and it's everything I expected.
However, I am finding online play shockingly bad.
- Every game is against some Inter/Barca/Brazil faggot.
- I play on all semi and some manual controls, but many people I've played against are surely using fully assisted controls and scoring some stupid goals, it's completely killing the realism for me.
- There is no way to force people to play semi, it's "any", "assisted" or full manual which no one seems to be playing with anyway. This is a really stupid move on EA's part as you are basically forced to play on any the whole time.
- You can't see the control settings of the other person, I want to at least know if the opponent is using auto shooting so I can switch it on to make it fair.
- The host should be able to set the game speed, is it all on normal? Because I swear I've played a few matches that have been running at warp speed.
I've been playing some multiplayer games with my bro on slow game speed with all semi or manual controls and it's been phenomenal, a true representation of football. I then go online and it's a bunch of gimps that want to play the game "arcade style".
Anyone annoyed by this, or are there options there that I am missing perhaps.
Cheers.You can choose to have the control settings for yourself and opponent when you create a game,then you have to wait and see if anyone excepts your rules.
I better get some injuries soon in MM or I'm getting placebo to make sure they sort it in a patch...
I had 4 injuries in the first 10 games in MM but my players didn't miss more than 1 match until now. I upgraded the fitness bar to 8/10 and now i don't have injuries and players recover their stamina everytime after a game :| I guess i will not upgrade the fitness bar next time too see if i get more injuries and tired players.
TikTikTikTikTik
5 October 08, 10:50
Yeah I was waiting to see how high I should upgrade my fitness to, in 08 I went to level ten asap but then I ended up playing the same team for the whole season Ive got it at level 6 or 7 now so will have to see how tired or not everybody gets as I want to have to rotate.
Shazam!
5 October 08, 11:11
Why does Anfield always look like a sack of shit? I play as Liverpool and never look forward to playing there because it looks nothing like it. The crowd are too far away from the pitch. The red/brown 'track' around the pitch is nowhere to be seen and the turf pattern isn't right at all : (
Shazam!
5 October 08, 11:12
Tiger Woods is more realistic than Everybody's Golf - but Everybody's Golf is more fun to play.FALSE
pboreham
5 October 08, 11:19
FALSE
Ha! Ha! Excellent - thanks for the insightful comment :)
winston
5 October 08, 11:36
I can sense a sub-thread coming up with everyone's tactical slider adjustments......
Did some reading up on the sliders yesterday and tried out a few "extreme" custom tactics and set them to my Quick Tactics buttons to switch between them during a match.
I'm genuinely surprised at how well they work. I was a bit sceptical when I fiirst read about them but they really are effective in recreating different styles of football.
I read the offical EA guide on the sliders which gives detailed descriptions of every aspect of the tactics and switching from tactic to tactic, you can immediately see the effect it has on all he players in your team (I was in be-a-pro mode so all my team-mates were cpu controlled), the runs they make, the positions the take up, the types of passing, the speed of play the type of defending.
I was trying a very short passing game with a "safe" attacking approach, and non-agressive, deep defedning. But my team was toiling (I was Norwich). So I switched to high tempo long-ball with aggressive defending, and the game totally changed. It was great to see them play lots of balls over the top and create chances, with Sibierski causing havoc, and the midfield and defence really hustle the other team off the ball.
Very impressed! Never expected it to be so good. Another break-through by EA.
A separate sliders thread would be a good idea. Too bad we can't share files ala PES option files (or can we?).
pboreham
5 October 08, 11:40
Did some reading up on the sliders yesterday and tried out a few "extreme" custom tactics and set them to my Quick Tactics buttons to switch between them during a match.
I'm genuinely surprised at how well they work. I was a bit sceptical when I fiirst read about them but they really are effective in recreating different styles of football.
I read the offical EA guide on the sliders which gives detailed descriptions of every aspect of the tactics and switching from tactic to tactic, you can immediately see the effect it has on all he players in your team (I was in be-a-pro mode so all my team-mates were cpu controlled), the runs they make, the positions the take up, the types of passing, the speed of play the type of defending.
I was trying a very short passing game with a "safe" attacking approach, and non-agressive, deep defedning. But my team was toiling (I was Norwich). So I switched to high tempo long-ball with aggressive defending, and the game totally changed. It was great to see them play lots of balls over the top and create chances, with Sibierski causing havoc, and the midfield and defence really hustle the other team off the ball.
Very impressed! Never expected it to be so good. Another break-through by EA.
A separate sliders thread would be a good idea. Too bad we can't share files ala PES option files (or can we?).
I'm not sure, but I think you can share sliders with your friends within the game. You have an 'EA Locker' where you can save sliders, screenshots etc and then friends can browse you Locker within the game and I assume, download your files...
As I say, not tested it, but thats what it looked like to me.
Did some reading up on the sliders yesterday and tried out a few "extreme" custom tactics and set them to my Quick Tactics buttons to switch between them during a match.
I'm genuinely surprised at how well they work. I was a bit sceptical when I fiirst read about them but they really are effective in recreating different styles of football.
I read the offical EA guide on the sliders which gives detailed descriptions of every aspect of the tactics and switching from tactic to tactic, you can immediately see the effect it has on all he players in your team (I was in be-a-pro mode so all my team-mates were cpu controlled), the runs they make, the positions the take up, the types of passing, the speed of play the type of defending.
I was trying a very short passing game with a "safe" attacking approach, and non-agressive, deep defedning. But my team was toiling (I was Norwich). So I switched to high tempo long-ball with aggressive defending, and the game totally changed. It was great to see them play lots of balls over the top and create chances, with Sibierski causing havoc, and the midfield and defence really hustle the other team off the ball.
Very impressed! Never expected it to be so good. Another break-through by EA.
A separate sliders thread would be a good idea. Too bad we can't share files ala PES option files (or can we?).
Sliders can be shared online. Shame your on PS3.
kobashi
5 October 08, 11:58
Originally Posted by david rutter:
we're looking at the issue with the player turning sideways/stopping and it seems to be especially prevalent in high/lobbed through balls.
will update next week.
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-sony-playstation-3-microsoft-xbox-360/344910-hello-team-16.html
Bah! Its no good, I cannot kid myself to like FIFA. :(
I find it dull, frustrating and it doesnt flow like FIFA.
The manager mode is just as dull as nothing happens to your team, no injuries, no point in doing transfers.
The gameplay is 'ok'. I can see they have busted a gut and they are so NEARLY there for me.
What finally made my mind up is sitting here playing a MM game and each time a match kicks off I instantly think "wow, this is great. Looks fab, sounds fab - cannot wait to play the match" - but every game is the same grind, trying to create the same openings etc. I can barely get any shots off - and I know I dont like it as I'm not very good at the game (how you guys play on World Class I'll never know).
I'll be listing this for sale next week methinks.
Sorry FIFA, I tried to love you!
Mate all I can say is you're not palying it properly. I've never had a footy game flow so well. Had my mate over last night , a true hard core PES , D-Pad player. He was blown away and is now considering getting a 360 just for FIFA. The more I play the more I learn, I'm still a bit crap at dribbling and shielding but once I get those 2 sorted this game has no limits.
The crossing is absolutley horrible, its like watching Jermaine Pennant cross a ball filled with Helium.
I also hate the crossing in general, even though you can occasionally whip out an absolute gem. I also find that ground passing inside the box to be incredibly awkward.
I don't like using assisted through balls or passing, but I detest the way in which [on manual] you have to hold a button for 1/2 seconds to get any amount of power on a pass, by which time you've lost the ball.
what settings do you use for crossing placebo? which do you find to be best, im loving the game, but like others im not to keen on the crosses, the headers are good when they happen, but my crossing has been shockingly bad. do u hold the left bumper when you cross, my crosses always seem to go behind everyone like i cross and am trying to cross to the middle but it crosses to the edge of the box.
any detailed crossing tips would be much appreciated.
thanx
All you need to do with crossing is get at a decent angle hold LB and get some power on it
i have delivered some stunning crosses by doing that, ill post a video later showing a whipped ball in
actually i have some already
Dailymotion - Fifa 09 Header 3, a video from Coopz08. fifa, header, 3 (http://www.dailymotion.com/Coopz08/video/x6skzw_fifa-09-header-3_videogames)
Dailymotion - Fifa 09 Header 2, a video from Coopz08. fifa, header, 2 (http://www.dailymotion.com/Coopz08/video/x6skzd_fifa-09-header-2_videogames)
BTW they are fast crosses but as you can see the replays are in slow motion
I changed my arena player to Ronaldo last night and then got Ronaldinho in a Utd shirt.Haha that sort of thing happens to me quite a lot, it's when I come out of a mode like a tournament or BAP Seasons.
I had Carlos as my arena player when I started a tournament, but switched him to Rooney once I came out of that tournament, then the next time I went into and quit the tournament I had Carlos in a United shirt.
The same thing happened with Cantona when I leave the BAP Seasons mode, that was pretty cool though having Cantona in a United shirt :DD.
It's uses the arena player you had at the start of the tournament but puts them in the kit of the team your current arena player plays in.
astirling
5 October 08, 12:22
there is also the offside rule needs to be changed in fifa ref blows before i even touch the ball..... should only get call once i touch the ball
Nah...In real football the ref will blow as soon as a player in an offside positon makes a genuine attempt to go for the ball. They rarely wait until the player has touched it.
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