FIFA 09 PS3/360 Discussion Thread

[Bitter Rivals]

vision, it is all about vision

i play on similar camera angles

[drekkard]

Of course, tele camera zoomed out, but I lower it 4 notches, just to match the angle I have in the Cam Nou here in Barcelona hehe.

[Tim7]

^ Flash bastard :DD.

[Nick Cave]

God the last time I was there the the top down camera would have been nearer the mark... :LOL:

[Rob92]

God the last time I was there the the top down camera would have been nearer the mark... :LOL:Haha! :w00t:

I've been there myself as well, not for a match, just for a tour - it is a spectacular stadium - you don't realise just how big it is until you see it in person. That said, I still think Old Trafford is a better stadium, seems to have a better atmosphere about it.

It would be good if you could use the Tele cam in the arena, just to practice shooting really - it's a lot different shooting sideways on Tele cam in a match than it is shooting forwards from the Pro cam in the arena.

[evogerman10]

have some of you noticed that you may get get more response from players by holding the pace control button. at least i do

[Rob92]

have some of you noticed that you may get get more response from players by holding the pace control button. at least i doYes :)) It is very useful and I use it a lot, the dragback to turn thing looks great and is very effective for creating space, and is fairly easy to do with a bit of practice.

Also, is anyone else using the lob pass to lob the keepers? I think it is easier to get it over the keeper and down than with the normal chipped shot.

[Blaccat]

Just noticed something really interesting.

I was playing against Madrid, Ramos got a red and instantly the CPU subed Raul off for Torres now they have 4 in defence again, in 08 the CPU would just leave that position vacant.

Nice job EA

[Blaccat]

have some of you noticed that you may get get more response from players by holding the pace control button. at least i do

Its being like that since 08

[shieldslfc]

Of course, tele camera zoomed out, but I lower it 4 notches, just to match the angle I have in the Cam Nou here in Barcelona hehe.

Aah yes I remember that view well, sitting with the home fans, when I watched the mighty LFC beat you 1-2 a few seasons ago in the Champions League. Riise and Bellamy, I liked it, good view!!! he he he

[Machines]

I don't know how you can find the game fun on Dynamic (V1 or V2), they seem way too close and show very little of the pitch, and when FIFA relies on passing more than dribbling, I think being able to see all your options is crucial.

I think you should switch to Tele cam ;)) It can now be tweaked remember. Maybe Dynamic could even be tweaked so that you don't get the problem...

I play on dynamic as well. I find it much easier to shoot on dynamic vs. tele which is too far out for my taste (at least the default setting). I also use the radar quite a bit to see what's going on. Maybe I'll spend some time tweaking the tele camera and see what I can come up with though. I used a custom cam in 07 that worked quite well and dynamic 1 in '08 was the closest option there was to it.

On a side note, anyone who does use the dynamic (v1) camera notice that it is actually pulled out a bit further by default as compared to last year?

[CHUCKY666_UK]

Guys how will the actual release/final game compare with the demo?
How old is the actual demo compared to the final build ? I am hoping for a few more suprise improvements in the final release. However, I still can't believe that there has been absolutely NO GAMEPLAY footage of different WEATHER effects (snow, rain,..) at all and we only have 2 weeks to go till release.

[Tim7]

Demo build is about 3 weeks old and there will be changes from the final release.

[DagsJT]

Hmm I've never changed the camera from default, it seems fine as it is for me.

[Tim7]

Same here :TU:.

[evacuate]

First time I played the demo I changed to "Slow" but forgot about it the other times and never even noticed it, just realised it now. So I guess Normal isn't too fast for me... :blush:

[world`soccer]

my freind just pre-ordered fifa 09 on ps3 off amazon and he was just wondering as the release date is 3rd confirmed by ea and he received an email after pre ordering saying he will get it on the 26th September?????? any ideas

hope so plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz any clue ?

[kb8sj]

does anybody know where I can purchase the uk version online for shipping to the US?

[Tim7]

He won't get it on the 26th September, it'll be 1st, or 2nd of October ;)).

[jaygrim]

does anybody know where I can purchase the uk version online for shipping to the US?

Shopto.net

Here. (http://www.shopto.net/page.php?page=dettagli&codart=PS3FI04&n=FIFA%2009&p=PS3)

[kb8sj]

Shopto.net

Here. (http://www.shopto.net/page.php?page=dettagli&codart=PS3FI04&n=FIFA%2009&p=PS3)

Thanks!!

[jivi]

i was playing default with zoom all the way in, this felt more pes like to me so i was comfortable with it.

i really hope they make some tweaks based on the demo feedback, that would be fantastic, for example if they improve the frame rate issues on high def and sort out the shot curl, but obviously as chris has been harping on about constantly, nothing that panders to the noobs who want to run around the whole team with ronaldo.

[PetrovLFC]

erm,

how do you change the game speed? Am I missing something?

[jeblo05]

Just noticed something really interesting.

I was playing against Madrid, Ramos got a red and instantly the CPU subed Raul off for Torres now they have 4 in defence again, in 08 the CPU would just leave that position vacant.

Nice job EA

CPU is even more clever:
midfielders/defenders will come in instead of an attacker, when in front. A defender/midfielder will be subbed by an attacker, when the CPU is behind.

Also the keeper comes up on corner in the last few minutes (as said in some previews already)

___

there's not much left on my wishlist for this year's FIFA. They've added/fixed more I ever could imagine.

"bugs" left (as mentioned in an earlier post):

- far too much curl on free kicks
- advantage rule is a mess
- no own goals (goal is credited to attacker

features to be implemented/fixed

- offline replays
- bring defenders up on corners/freekicks
- lettering, numbering, goalie kits
- disallowed offside goals

pretty impressive job, EA !!!(as far as I can say after playing the demo for about a week)

[Nick Cave]

Demo build is about 3 weeks old and there will be changes from the final release.
You think that's likely, I doubt anything we point out or they have not already done will be changed, due to the time constraints...

[Nick Cave]

my freind just pre-ordered fifa 09 on ps3 off amazon and he was just wondering as the release date is 3rd confirmed by ea and he received an email after pre ordering saying he will get it on the 26th September?????? any ideas

hope so plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz any clue ?

I'd bet on a error, he won't get it before October...

[Nick Cave]

erm,

how do you change the game speed? Am I missing something?

Go into the settings before the game, press R2 to access the "advanced" settings, and the game-speed option is the last option (scroll to the very bottom)...

[rickyricc]

does anybody know where I can purchase the uk version online for shipping to the US?

I was thinking about importing it as well but then i realized that i won't get it till probably around the 9 or 10th of October, seeing as they have to ship it overseas and by that time, it comes out in the US 4 days later.. Might aswell just wait i suppose..

[matt1288]

From the previous page, I think the high through balls are excellent, you really can find space now and completely trick the defenders.

[gerd]

Maybe this isn't news, but i haven't heard this.
In the Belgian Official Playstation Magazine they had a tiny litle news update about FIFA09.
It says that players' stats will be updated weekly for some leagues: Premiership, La Liga,Ligue 1, Bundesliga, Serie A and the Mexican premier division. The updates will be according to the way players do IRL. EA uses thousands of scouts to do that.
I think this is pretty impressive.
I don't know if these updated stats will have implications in an ongoing manager mode (for example) or if this will only be if you start a new game...

[Nick Cave]

Maybe this isn't news, but i haven't heard this.
In the Belgian Official Playstation Magazine they had a tiny litle news update about FIFA09.
It says that players' stats will be updated weekly for some leagues: Premiership, La Liga,Ligue 1, Bundesliga, Serie A and the Mexican premier division. The updates will be according to the way players do IRL. EA uses thousands of scouts to do that.
I think this is pretty impressive.
I don't know if these updated stats will have implications in an ongoing manager mode (for example) or if this will only be if you start a new game...
Yep it's a feature you will have to pay for and by league, I can't see how it will work TBH as it has no reference to your games, your striker could score a hatrick and have the game of his life but in real life he has a mare, I'm sure the stats won't alter that much but they wont be relevant...

"EA has unveiled Adidas Live Season for FIFA 09, an online service that alters player attributes each week based on their real-life performances.

Scouts around the world will funnel data from the Premiership, La Liga (a newly-acquired licence), Ligue 1, Bundesliga, Serie A and the Mexican Premier Division into PC, Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the game each week.
Live Season will be a paid-for service, but a free trial restricted to one of the leagues will be offered and run from activation through to the end of the season. Otherwise, subscription costs are unknown."

[hitmanuk]

You think that's likely, I doubt anything we point out or they have not already done will be changed, due to the time constraints...

They have not put in all animations in the demo and its been confirmed that its smoother in the final version

[Nick Cave]

They have not put in all animations in the demo and its been confirmed that its smoother in the final version
Yeah if that's true it would be nice, where was it confirmed I must have missed it. Though that's something already in, I fear any bugs pointed out on the demo will not be changed...

[Chris Davies]

FSB, Nick. :)

Suff played a close-to-final-version of FIFA 09 courtesy of EA, and posted his impressions. When comparing it to the demo he said there are definite differences. He specifically said it's as if they've had to take a lot of animations out.

[DagsJT]

I thought EA has confirmed that animations weren't in the demo as well?

[matt1288]

Damn you people living in Europe, I get the game 1 week after you in sodding Asia!

[santiago]

New Screens

http://gamecinemahd.com/game/Xbox360/fifa_09

[hitmanuk]

CPU is even more clever:
midfielders/defenders will come in instead of an attacker, when in front. A defender/midfielder will be subbed by an attacker, when the CPU is behind.

Also the keeper comes up on corner in the last few minutes (as said in some previews already)

___

there's not much left on my wishlist for this year's FIFA. They've added/fixed more I ever could imagine.

"bugs" left (as mentioned in an earlier post):

- far too much curl on free kicks
- advantage rule is a mess
- no own goals (goal is credited to attacker

features to be implemented/fixed

- offline replays
- bring defenders up on corners/freekicks
- lettering, numbering, goalie kits
- disallowed offside goals

pretty impressive job, EA !!!(as far as I can say after playing the demo for about a week)

Just one point on that if you adjust your tactics by using the Dpad you can switch to ulta offensive for freekicks and corners and people come up from the back. Well it appears that way when I do it

Also on the final version you'll be able to individually move players as you can in Euro and put defenders upfront.

[Dr Force]

@ Trance Allstar

Hi T

In response to your post over in the Pes thread, I would like to eloborate further.

I find the response to be an issue for me to enjoy the game. it is more responsive than 08 (which I found unplayable) but its still slugish when it comes to shooting and passing just after you receive the ball.

You are right when you mention that its too responsive when they trap the ball, which happens instantly, especially from very long balls, it then has to let the animation unfold before your commands are carried out.

In the arena, run at full pelt toward the goal and press the shoot button, i find the player takes a further 2-3 paces before releasing the shoot button. now thats fine in the vast open, non pressurising space there, but have that in a game and its the difference between getting a shot off and not, which is why it can frustrate some.

You just feel, its not doing what you want it to, when you want it done. I also struggle with the running animation which sometimes feels they are running against an 80mph wind, that feeling of running through treacle is till there for me yet its still an improvement on 08.

Animations are fantastic but I think this adds a mask to the core problems that remain from 08, it feels less clunky because they turn slightly quicker and adjust the balance better but its still not as fluid as it could be (Pes mentality I am afraid)and as a consequence it just frustrates me.Tricks are also almost impossible to pull off in a game situation at the right time.

Its interesting to read that they have left a load of animations out the demo, so I do beleive the final game will be improved, however I have the same feeling i had with 08 & euro and I sold them not long after playing.

I just know i may aswell throw the towel in on this one rather than spend £40, be dissapointed, sell it on and wish i'd never bothered.

I found PES5 to be the best game I have played on the 360 yet and for all Konami's clear arrogance and lack of next gen innovation, i beleive its taken a step toward to what it was and that is what I prefer.

I dont want anyone lambasting me because i don't like it because its my choice, but I hope you all enjoy it because clearly you all love it............that's great for you.

Enjoy;))

[ZiqXx]

I still can't get the correct free-kicker that I want. What am I doing wrong here ??

I played as Chelsea, set Lampard as Left,Right corner taker, Direct and Long Direct Free kick taker and then I got a free kick just around the corner area and Ballack is on it. That is an obvious guy I want in my box but I can't change kickers here. Could someone tell me how to select a crossing free-kick taker....:blush:

[Coopz]

After watching this Villa v West Brom team on TV i think Villa may well be the team for me on 09

Barry passing it around in midfield or hoofing it up to the target man Carew with Agbonlahor and Young bombing down the wings whipping in crosses for Big John :))

[BillyBoy]

Those screenshots look great. I pray the night time lighting is fixed for the final version, then the game will be close to perfect this year.

[Achillias]

FSB, Nick. :)

Suff played a close-to-final-version of FIFA 09 courtesy of EA, and posted his impressions. When comparing it to the demo he said there are definite differences. He specifically said it's as if they've had to take a lot of animations out.
What about the graphics on the PS3?

[matt1288]

My first team experience will be with Juve, I will dive straight in manager mode and after I complete a season I will start playing some ranked live games, and lastly join my forum league.

[BillyBoy]

In Manager Mode when you buy a player from a club do they automatically accept if you pay the right amount or does the club negotiate on a price? I havent played manager mode in about 9 years and I remember there was no real depth regarding the transfer side to it. Can anyone give me a quick summary of the changes that have taken place to this mode. I plan to start a Manager Mode and Master League in both FIFA 09 and PES 2009 this year. Thanks. :)

[Coopz]

Placebo is the man to answer that question

[BillyBoy]

Placebo is the man to answer that question

Just my luck! When I need him he isnt here. :-pp

[BillyBoy]

The only game I keep going back to for my career mode fix is SWOS 96-97. That had the best mangerial mode ever. :)

[ZiqXx]

I still can't get the correct free-kicker that I want. What am I doing wrong here ??

I played as Chelsea, set Lampard as Left,Right corner taker, Direct and Long Direct Free kick taker and then I got a free kick just around the corner area and Ballack is on it. That is an obvious guy I want in my box but I can't change kickers here. Could someone tell me how to select a crossing free-kick taker....:blush:

Is this just not possible at all ? :COAT:

[Chris Davies]

In Manager Mode when you buy a player from a club do they automatically accept if you pay the right amount or does the club negotiate on a price? I havent played manager mode in about 9 years and I remember there was no real depth regarding the transfer side to it. Can anyone give me a quick summary of the changes that have taken place to this mode. I plan to start a Manager Mode and Master League in both FIFA 09 and PES 2009 this year. Thanks. :)
They negotiate. They can reject you outright and say things like "the X manager is offended at the pitiful amount offered for X", accept it and say "the club reluctantly accepts your offer for X" or negotiate and say "the club would like to see a little more sincerity in your offer for X".

[gerd]

Something i did notmanage in FIFA08 is score a goal from a free kick...i've read that other people have similar problems...what has to be done ???

PS: and yesterday evening i got the first opponents' goal from a free kick in almost a year.

[Trance_Allstar]

@ Trance Allstar

Hi T

In response to your post over in the Pes thread, I would like to eloborate further.

I find the response to be an issue for me to enjoy the game. it is more responsive than 08 (which I found unplayable) but its still slugish when it comes to shooting and passing just after you receive the ball.

You are right when you mention that its too responsive when they trap the ball, which happens instantly, especially from very long balls, it then has to let the animation unfold before your commands are carried out.

In the arena, run at full pelt toward the goal and press the shoot button, i find the player takes a further 2-3 paces before releasing the shoot button. now thats fine in the vast open, non pressurising space there, but have that in a game and its the difference between getting a shot off and not, which is why it can frustrate some.

You just feel, its not doing what you want it to, when you want it done. I also struggle with the running animation which sometimes feels they are running against an 80mph wind, that feeling of running through treacle is till there for me yet its still an improvement on 08.

Animations are fantastic but I think this adds a mask to the core problems that remain from 08, it feels less clunky because they turn slightly quicker and adjust the balance better but its still not as fluid as it could be (Pes mentality I am afraid)and as a consequence it just frustrates me.Tricks are also almost impossible to pull off in a game situation at the right time.

Its interesting to read that they have left a load of animations out the demo, so I do beleive the final game will be improved, however I have the same feeling i had with 08 & euro and I sold them not long after playing.

I just know i may aswell throw the towel in on this one rather than spend £40, be dissapointed, sell it on and wish i'd never bothered.

I found PES5 to be the best game I have played on the 360 yet and for all Konami's clear arrogance and lack of next gen innovation, i beleive its taken a step toward to what it was and that is what I prefer.

I dont want anyone lambasting me because i don't like it because its my choice, but I hope you all enjoy it because clearly you all love it............that's great for you.

Enjoy;))

Hey mate. :)

I agree with most points you make. :)

To be honest I hadn't really been bothered about the shooting or passing responsiveness. When running full clip, from what I've played on the demo, the player seems to shoot just as he reaches the ball, seeing that he usually kicks the ball ahead of himself when sprinting and thus he would be unable to shoot until he catches up to the ball. If I imagine myself on the pitch sprinting after the ball, I imagine I would need some moments to adjust myself for a powerful shot. Not only catch up to the ball, but also get my footing right and sort of "get into the flow" before I can get control, balance to unleash a shot.

The Reason PES5 for example was good at this was that they basically cheated and let the player shoot without having to worry about his footing. For example, just as he was going to plant his right foot in the ground to keep himself upright, he would instead pull that foot back to shoot with it, and in real life he would've just collapsed if he had done that. They don't have to worry about using their feet to keep themselves from falling to the ground, and thus they can really kick a ball regardless of where in the running animation they are. It's sort of like the players being suspended by cables on their hips, and being able to just lift their feet off the ground and hang there.

So in that aspect, looking as the players footing in FIFA09, usually you can see that the player did in fact shoot as quickly as possible, since the feet don't slide around, and he actually needs to follow through with footing etc, for example planting his left foot before he can shoot with the right.


But there is one more nuance to this, and that is that in real life, you still have control over how quickly you want to execute certain moves. So if you want a really powerful shot you might need to really do proper, quite slow movements when setting up for the shot. But, you could also tiptap with your feet quickly just to get them in place for a shot, and perhaps sacrificing a bit of potential power for a more quick "snapshot" that doesn't require forceful movements or the leg being pulled back as much etc. And in FIFA, I feel that the programming doesn't allow you do do things as quickly as they "could" have been done. There's sort of an emphasis on slow forceful moves rather than quick light ones, if you will.


My original post where I discussed the "Responsive/Close control" would solve this problem more or less, since a button would allow you to choose if the player should do things slowly/powerfully or quickly/lightly, etc. So depending on how much room you have to the nearest defender, you could allow the player to do a proper forceful shot animation, or a quick more sloppy less forceful one.
Normally you'd perhaps expect the shot power bar to scale the forcefulness of the shot, but that is more of a heightbar than power, and the player shot animation seems to be pretty much the same whether you tap the button once or hold for more power.
Also since LT is analog, you could have a analog choice for power vs. speed depending on how depressed the button is. Though that probably might be a bit much, perhaps it would be enough with 3 stages, not depressed, 50% depressed and fully depressed.


As for running animations, yeah, now that you mention it, the "running against the wind" one seems to describe it quite well. Not only the arm movements like they are swimming against the wind, but also their upper bodies looking like they are being forced more upright by the wind.

And, to be completely honest, I am sort of curious about PES2009. 2008 had some great features gameplaywise I felt, among the complete rubbish things. And the Dribbling modes in PES seem better than FIFA09, particularly the R2 dribbling which I loved in PES2008. I'll probably get tired of PES2009 after 5 games or so though because of the lack of analog passing and such. :/

[BillyBoy]

They negotiate. They can reject you outright and say things like "the X manager is offended at the pitiful amount offered for X", accept it and say "the club reluctantly accepts your offer for X" or negotiate and say "the club would like to see a little more sincerity in your offer for X".

Thanks Chris. :)

[AsterNzeyii]

Is this just not possible at all ? :COAT:

If you have a corner, you can switch the player by going to specialists, and then 'left/right corner taker', it switch immediatley, IMO.

[Nick Cave]

They negotiate. They can reject you outright and say things like "the X manager is offended at the pitiful amount offered for X", accept it and say "the club reluctantly accepts your offer for X" or negotiate and say "the club would like to see a little more sincerity in your offer for X". It needs alot more work though I doubt anything will alter on 09... :((

[Nick Cave]

The only game I keep going back to for my career mode fix is SWOS 96-97. That had the best mangerial mode ever. :)

:SAL: Spot on I still dig my Amiga out to have a bash, but it's on it's last legs now... :((

[Nick Cave]

I still can't get the correct free-kicker that I want. What am I doing wrong here ??

I played as Chelsea, set Lampard as Left,Right corner taker, Direct and Long Direct Free kick taker and then I got a free kick just around the corner area and Ballack is on it. That is an obvious guy I want in my box but I can't change kickers here. Could someone tell me how to select a crossing free-kick taker....:blush:

You can alter you defined corner or free kick taker by pressing and holding the "Through ball" button. A name of the kicker (along with his abilities and preferred foot) will appear in the corner of the screen. By pressing the arrow keys you can change the corner taker...

[Scorpio]

http://www.fifa09.ea.com/nl/music

Little update of the belgian site of Fifa 09.

[Nick Cave]

Am I the only person who the first thing I do when I load FIFA or PES for the first time is turn all the music off and keep it off... It's weird as I do like some of the tunes they have had but ever since SWOS, which I always kept on and was the same tune over and over I can't stand the menu music in Footy titles!...

[hitmanuk]

Anyone seen the FIFA 09 advert on skysports with Rooney playin as Man U against R Madrid.....Quality

[Scorpio]

The new ad is up on the site!! It made me laugh and sent shivers down my spine!! LOVE IT!

Check it out for yourself.

http://fifa09.ea.com/uk/page/dynpid/11367/

[Achillias]

The new ad is up on the site!! It made me laugh and sent shivers down my spine!! LOVE IT!

Check it out for yourself.

http://fifa09.ea.com/uk/page/dynpid/11367/Really nice.

[eliasg]

i hate that is 100% PS3 advertisement but, well done EA!!!

[gerd]

What a great ad...a litle bitlong for television perhaps, but i really liked.

[Trance_Allstar]

Am I the only person who the first thing I do when I load FIFA or PES for the first time is turn all the music off and keep it off... It's weird as I do like some of the tunes they have had but ever since SWOS, which I always kept on and was the same tune over and over I can't stand the menu music in Footy titles!...


I absolutely love ISS the music those titles had.


Menu Music: YouTube - International Superstar Soccer 64 - Menu music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zei1B5cR--A&fmt=18)

Menu Music: YouTube - International SuperStar Soccer 98 - GAMEPLAY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QJuWg-91MA&fmt=18)

Intro: YouTube - International SuperStar Soccer 2000 - INTRO - Nintendo 64 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koswIw4S7DE&fmt=18)

Intro: YouTube - International SuperStar Soccer 98 - INTRO - Nintendo 64 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqnYWAqANsw&fmt=18)

[OPM]

masters of marketing did it again...pretty awesome advert!

http://fifa09.ea.com/uk/page/dynpid/11367/

[Placebo]

You can alter you defined corner or free kick taker by pressing and holding the "Through ball" button. A name of the kicker (along with his abilities and preferred foot) will appear in the corner of the screen. By pressing the arrow keys you can change the corner taker...

Not in Fifa09 you can't, don't know what you're talking about.......

[Bingham67]

masters of marketing did it again...pretty awesome advert!

http://fifa09.ea.com/uk/page/dynpid/11367/

Was good advert but Rooney should of missed that one on one. :DD

[Trance_Allstar]

Not in Fifa09 you can't, don't know what you're talking about.......


No? I thought they had snuck that one in there. :/

[Scorpio]

masters of marketing did it again...pretty awesome advert!

http://fifa09.ea.com/uk/page/dynpid/11367/

Allready posted, moderator.

[Placebo]

No? I thought they had snuck that one in there. :/

Yeah I wish they had as well, I just excitedly booted up my 360 to test it, but it's bullshit, dunno what he's on about :(( Through pass button for corners does nothing, through pass button for freekicks does a through pass free kick surprisingly :ROLL:

[Trance_Allstar]

Yeah I wish they had as well, I just excitedly booted up my 360 to test it, but it's bullshit, dunno what he's on about :(( Through pass button for corners does nothing, through pass button for freekicks does a through pass free kick surprisingly :ROLL:


Yeah. I sort of figured that someone, upon getting that first freekick in the first match on the Demo, would have sat there and tried every button to get some sort of menu to appear.

I know I did.... :)

[pepper63]

Anyone see the fifa09 add today?

[Placebo]

PS2 was L1 + Dpad to scroll through the kickers, worked perfectly, I really cannot understand why it's not implemented in the next gen Fifas, watch any football match and it's almost a certainty that not every left/right corner will be taken by the same player, and the same applies to freekicks, and for defensive freekicks I should definitely be able to choose my goalkeeper to take them and thus have my defence moved up to the halfway line.....

I told the EA producer at GCA last year that it should be in there as it was perfect in Fifa07 PS2, he agreed with me and said he'd email the dev team :( Numerous people have posted on the EA forums that it should be in there but again they were apparently ignored, guess I'll have to use my FSB "powers" to make them add it ;) That and saving replays to HDD :)

[Placebo]

Anyone see the fifa09 add today?

Perhaps try reading a page or two back in this thread, or even searching this thread for "advert".......

[aitk3n]

as a pesfan boy, im honestly more excited about this fifa then pro evo, it looks like almost the complete game. havn't been this excited since pes6 (ps2) xD.

[OPM]

Allready posted, moderator.


i'm sorry i can't keep up with every single post in this thread :PIG::-pp

[SPMC]

masters of marketing did it again...pretty awesome advert!

http://fifa09.ea.com/uk/page/dynpid/11367/

Allready posted, moderator.

it deserves a sticky! :DD

& ps3 graphics are shite :-pp

[Nick Cave]

Not in Fifa09 you can't, don't know what you're talking about.......
Sorry for that, I meant to post the correct one later on, I just pasted a snippet I had on another open page, I'm sick of getting the same question over and over, speed change and kick change, it has been answered sooo many times. Maybe we need a FAQ page... Chris!! ;))

[Blaccat]

Denilson's backheel flick yesterday for arsenal's second goal was str8 outta fifa09...lool

[evzag16]

Just wondering if anyone knows what t90 nike boots will be in the game? I've noticed only the red t90s in the demo, and in the screenshots its the same. I'm hoping the white ones will be in as well?

[WEtongelre]

I don't know how you can find the game fun on Dynamic (V1 or V2), they seem way too close and show very little of the pitch, and when FIFA relies on passing more than dribbling, I think being able to see all your options is crucial.

I think you should switch to Tele cam ;)) It can now be tweaked remember. Maybe Dynamic could even be tweaked so that you don't get the problem...

I think the same but over the tele cam. It's a way to far! You can't even see the boots and tape. I love it when I see the details.

[Placebo]

......was str8 outta fifa09...lool

Ever thought that some of us haven't watched the match yet? There's spoiler tags for a reason, there's a football forum for a reason........

[PESV]

I think the same but over the tele cam. It's a way to far! You can't even see the boots and tape. I love it when I see the details.

I agree, love to see all the details, all the little touches. From far some animations look awkward but make more sense up close. I also like how on dynamic your game depends more on quick thinking then on tele where everything is more predictable. Also the framerate seems better on dynamic. At least thats what I all found true for Fifa08.

[Beattie]

I hate the advertising laws that prevent the Old Firm from having Carling on the tops.

And the text on the back of the tops of both teams is hideous.. Celtic's is in some lower case for some reason.. and the font for Rangers is horrid.

[Blaccat]

Ever thought that some of us haven't watched the match yet? There's spoiler tags for a reason, there's a football forum for a reason........
damn sowwy

[Dazfeeder]

how come on Fifa the teams come out of the old entrance at old trafford? does my head in

[Achillias]

Tele cam is a must for online.

[danhammer]

i play the demo on my ps3, sony bravia hd 40" lcdtv....picture seems a little blurry and not as pin sharp as i thought it would be

tried messing around with the picture but doesn't really improve...anyone else think it will improve when the full game releases

[AsterNzeyii]

Not for me mate, dynamic camera is also good.

[lons_pl]

I have question to Fifa fans.How distance(zoom) do you use in tele camera??Maximum,medium or minimum.Thank you,

[pepper63]

Perhaps try reading a page or two back in this thread, or even searching this thread for "advert".......why don't you lighten up? who the hell do you think you are pal?

[Rob92]

I have question to Fifa fans.How distance(zoom) do you use in tele camera??Maximum,medium or minimum.Thank you,Oh so you're playing FIFA now, the game which you call "a shit" :SS.

Answering the question, I play on fully zoomed out.

[Placebo]

why don't you lighten up? who the hell do you think you are pal?

Someone who knows how to press the button to go to the previous page of this thread, obviously ;))

[Dazfeeder]

easy lads lol

[evacuate]

Get him, get him!!11

[WEtongelre]

I agree, love to see all the details, all the little touches. From far some animations look awkward but make more sense up close. I also like how on dynamic your game depends more on quick thinking then on tele where everything is more predictable. Also the framerate seems better on dynamic. At least thats what I all found true for Fifa08.

+1! ;)

[pepper63]

Someone who knows how to press the button to go to the previous page of this thread, obviously ;))Ok owls boy i get the point.:))

[BillyBoy]

Owls boy? Placebo your part owl part man?!

[Placebo]

Twitwoo ;)

[jaygrim]

Twatwoo.

[BillyBoy]

I have just pre-ordered FIFA 09 on PS3 from Blockbuster. Less than 2 weeks to go!

[Joe]

YEEHAA!!

[pepper63]

I have just pre-ordered FIFA 09 on PS3 from Blockbuster. Less than 2 weeks to go!:-pp:SHHH:

[proxi]

After initially wanting to use my spare in-store credit at CEX to get FIFA, it now turns out that Sarah has pre-ordered it for me from Argos for £35, bless! Head awaits....

[DaWu]

a demo goal from me. quality sucks but I like how the ai goes full offense when they are behind giving you great oppotunities
and space to counter attack

YouTube - FIFA 09 Borellio Counter Attack Goal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U9Y2gGpG5g)

[nigelnire]

Ive always been a Pro Evo man I never liked Fifa till last year but having played the demo of 09 im very impressed it’s a superb Simulation something Pro Evo used to be.
Having watched the Roma v Real Madrid Pro Evo 09 video showing actual gameplay I can confidently predict Fifa 09 will be lights years ahead of Pro Evo this time there will be no comparison it wont even be close. Konami have blown it.

[Tim7]

Twatwoo.
Is that your 10v10 team's slogan?

[stumpy_uk]

Ive always been a Pro Evo man I never liked Fifa till last year but having played the demo of 09 im very impressed it’s a superb Simulation something Pro Evo used to be.
Having watched the Roma v Real Madrid Pro Evo 09 video showing actual gameplay I can confidently predict Fifa 09 will be lights years ahead of Pro Evo this time there will be no comparison it wont even be close. Konami have blown it.

I am the same really impressed with the demo cant wait to play the full game, this could be the year I swop!

[Emanuel]

Personally I think Euro 2008 is way better than FIFA 09. The only thing I prefer in fifa09 is the shooting. Passing was awesome in Euro 2008, I don´t know what they´ve done :( Also sometimes our players just leave the ball and they slide along the grass (like in PS2 PES).

However if PES still the same I prefer to play FIFA. More realistic.

[wan_d7]

emanuel,you mean leaving the ball is like they suddenly move to other direction without the ball right? it do occur to me somehow. and most annoying is they will not try to receive a direct pass. 1 thing i do realize this always happen when Ballack pass the ball to Bosingwa. i guess they're not very good teammate aren't they? :LOL:

[Emanuel]

That´s right! exactly what I mean. it annoys me. I expect the final build has that thing fixed.

[wan_d7]

yup. i hope so. can't wait to feel the full experience of the game. somehow i'll have to watch you guys gameplay videofirst since my country only receiving the game on 14th. :(

[matt1288]

:( Same here wan, it's going to be torture watching all of you enjoy the game while us Asians wait.

[RockyJJP]

Only 9 days to go! Whoop, Whoop!
http://www.btgames.co.za/btgames/infoPages/04939.asp?IndexNo=50

[pepper63]

:( Same here wan, it's going to be torture watching all of you enjoy the game while us Asians wait.:-pp

[Placebo]

Personally I think Euro 2008 is way better than FIFA 09. The only thing I prefer in fifa09 is the shooting. Passing was awesome in Euro 2008, I don´t know what they´ve done :( Also sometimes our players just leave the ball and they slide along the grass (like in PS2 PES).

However if PES still the same I prefer to play FIFA. More realistic.

I felt the manual passing in Euro was completely broken, it was changed from Fifa08 and was no longer really manual.

[Tim7]

And the goalkeeping in Euro was wank. Euro was an arcadey, PES style version of FIFA.

[Placebo]

Yeah I agree with that, AI especially was just awful, as someone who only played offline it was a huge disappointment after Fifa08.

[evacuate]

What do you guys think about the AI clearing the ball for you even if you don't press any buttons? Several times I have not pressed any button to clear the ball while in front of my own goal and the player still clears it. Kind of weird to me. BUT, this could be a good thing to me if it means that your teammates actually try to clear balls and head balls if you're not controlling them. Your own team AI needs to be more active to make it more realistic.

I think this happened to me on the highest difficulty, not sure if it has anything to do with it but I did play on the medium one a couple of matches and I know it happened several times then.

[Rodelero]

What do you guys think about the AI clearing the ball for you even if you don't press any buttons? Several times I have not pressed any button to clear the ball while in front of my own goal and the player still clears it. Kind of weird to me. BUT, this could be a good thing to me if it means that your teammates actually try to clear balls and head balls if you're not controlling them. Your own team AI needs to be more active to make it more realistic.

I think this happened to me on the highest difficulty, not sure if it has anything to do with it but I did play on the medium one a couple of matches and I know it happened several times then.

The game basically presumes in that situation that you're going to WANT to clear it, in a seriously dangerous situation (off the line for instance).

I like the system, as it seems to cut down on the number of rebound goals, lateral-pass goals, and own goals quite considerably, without seeming unrealistic. It very rarely takes control when I don't want it to clear.

I had a situation a couple of days ago when the CPU cut inside, then tried to pass it across the face of the goal. My player ran in at the right moment and just swatted it straight out, looked really natural.

[hitmanuk]

I think the computer AI is excellent on world class mode..as an example they had a shot on goal and my keeper pushed it to the side near the dead ball line about 6 yards from goal..the angle was very tight and I doubt it would have scored...but unlike any other game where the computer would have blasted it into the side netting..the player looked like he was going to blast it, then put it foot on it, shifted in feild to create space then put in a little lob into the area, which i smashed downfield but thats not the point...it chose the logical solution...great game

[danhammer]

i need the full game now, can't hack 2 mins games anymore ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[OPM]

i need the full game now, can't hack 2 mins games anymore ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



yep...it's really getting hard to wait :sick:

[world`soccer]

its wonderful game EA really give PES the best slap ever !! i respect EA for waitting all this years to give us this master peace at least they were working and trying their best for us not like konami do what ever they like and make us pay for them dump asses :/

[kobashi]

sorry if this has been posted. Been in marseille all weekend so never got a chance to look on the forum.

Gamemaster review

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7860/scan0015vq8.jpg
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8525/scan0016tt8.jpg
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9339/scan0017va6.jpg

[Placebo]

It has indeed, but positive reviews can be posted three times per page ;)

[gameklip]

its wonderful game EA really give PES the best slap ever !! i respect EA for waitting all this years to give us this master peace at least they were working and trying their best for us not like konami do what ever they like and make us pay for them dump asses :/

yeah FIFA09's demo alone convinces me of this. it already makes me think of how great 2010 will be with even MORE improvements in the animations and shot variety etc.

FIFA has really matured as a franchise under this ne engine. the change has been rapid over this generation. PES seems to have thought that last gens engine in HD would do, but they're finding (in the face of FIFA) that you simply can't achieve everything you want to with that ancient engine.

just one aspect is the ball physics. in PES there's a very obvious tether between you and the ball. at no point do you feel you can nick the ball off the opposition and chase the through-ball. i can do just that in FIFA09 in the demo. in fact, i had a shot (in FIFA09) last night that hit the crossbar and came down off the keeper. the keeper kicked his leg out to try and clear it and miss-ht it. it came off his thigh and it trickle out to lampard. all the time during this the ball is spinning and bobbling off of every body part with scary realism.

hell, i clipped the outside of the past with a shot yesterday and the ball spun wildly and bent off wide.

it's just a totally new level in realism and very enjoyable.

[stefano_85]

Only 9 days to go! Whoop, Whoop!
http://www.btgames.co.za/btgames/infoPages/04939.asp?IndexNo=50


should have it in a week down here in australia couple days before the rest of world :)

[wan_d7]

yeah. just now against milan,i play a very deep high thru ball to drogba who chase it behind maldini. well maldini reach to the ball 1st but what actually happen is,he try to clear it over the back volley, but he miss it and the ball hit his thigh and sway away for a corner. i smile myself "this gonna be a shit loads of good when the full game coming!!"

[kouroux]

I'm ordering from Asia so i suppose it'll get here one week later . I won't connect here :d

[Jamie LUFC]

Anyone had this happen to them?

Ball hits bar, crosses the line and bounces back out,without a goal being awarded? It's just happened to me. I will try and post the replay once I get the video formatted.

[ptfcdb]

Anyone had this happen to them?

Ball hits bar, crosses the line and bounces back out,without a goal being awarded? It's just happened to me. I will try and post the replay once I get the video formatted.

Maybe the ref and linesmen were from the Watford v Reading game?:LOL:

[drekkard]

I've had the opposite, the ball bounced in and went out but the goal was conceded! It's nice if they have put it a little random, as it is in real life (until FIFA decides to use video technology).

About the "miastkes" of players, it's very nice how those are implemented, both for you and for the CPU players. Very nice because if you mistime an action, you can see the result in a very realistic way (even ridiculous sometimes, which is good and fun). But it's amazing how they've found the way to simlutae mistakes in the CPU players, something you can try to exploit to your advantage.

For instance, it's the first time in a football game that I will consistently play long balls just to find that defender error that gives me the chance.

PES tried something similar years ago, but due to the scripted nature of things and the reduced chance of decision of the player, it went all wrong. In PES, sometimes your players would just fail something without any reason and felt really odd. In Fifa, due to the "manualness" of things, and due also to the brilliant physics engine, it's satisfying to do errors.

Playing Human vs. human it's also a lot of fun when Maldini mistimes a header and you score, or when you mistime a volley. The amount of unpredictability in this game has totally blown me. I was expecting a lot less by EA, maybe that's a result of the persistant lack of evolution of PES in the last years, that makes us even happier with the huge ammount of evolution FIFA has achieved in only one year.

Oh, and yesterday I had the opponent Goalkeeper comint to my area in a corner. They headed the ball out and when I kicked from the keeper he was still running in the midfield to his goal. I managed to get a shot from halfline but it was Ashley Cole the one who shot and the ball went horribly wide. A very nice touch.

[gameklip]

yeh i've had them given and not given. i think there's a degree of error with different refs in the game? i scored an offside goal the other night....

[hitmanuk]

i love the way if you rush with the keeper on a throw or a kick you can get yourself in a total mess..its great...and if you try to kick when player around you the collision system can make your keeper drop the ball or fall over.. just had a keeper own goal where ball hit bar and then hit keeper on way out and ended up in net..seen that on PES a few times..Another thing is the better you get at the game the better the game becomes and the more you see

[football_fan]

i am new to this...but not at new FIFA i loved FIFA08 the pass of the game...it was the closest thing to a football game do you agree placebo? and now i have been playing the FIFA 09 demo since release and it is great even closer to the real thing...the way the player move it great...it as though they all have mass to them...like a real human....this is something that i have not found when playing PES.....the new PES2009 from video i have seen...seems to be the same...ok there are some little changes here and there but overall the same...ok..PES fans will say this is brill because they love PES ie fanboys

i am a football fan...and i will play the game which is closes to the real thing...at the moment it FIFA09....
the ball physics are great playing in the arena is a joy....and when you get on the pitch...even though is only 2mins each half it feels great

[AsterNzeyii]

Lol guys we really need to make a Manager Mode thread, caus' manager mode is going to be awesome ! :p

[winston]

About the "miastkes" of players

:LOL: I like how you put it in quotes, to highlight the "mistake". Or is that a Spanish word?

For instance, it's the first time in a football game that I will consistently play long balls just to find that defender error that gives me the chance.


I've also tried the long-ball tactic a few times and gratifyingly, it can be effective, especially with tactic set to high attacking pressure, so lots of guys are automatically pushing forward for flick-ons. It does represent a breakthrough as we can now play a passing game (which is what football games are scripted to be), a dribbling game, and now a long-ball/more speculative game. And that's without all the tactical options unlocked.

I still find it too "scripted/full of cpu-cheats" to be fun to play against the cpu, but EA are definitely moving the genre into new areas.

[Placebo]

Lol guys we really need to make a Manager Mode thread, caus' manager mode is going to be awesome ! :p

Well it'll be awesome to those people new to Fifa's manager mode, but for people like myself who played Fifa08 a lot it'll be very familiar so less impact unfortunately.

i am new to this...but not at new FIFA i loved FIFA08 the pass of the game...it was the closest thing to a football game do you agree placebo?

Yes I considered Fifa08 the finest simulation of real football to date, and from what I can see in the 2x2 Fifa09 demo it surpasses it, can't wait.

[Nick Cave]

Lol guys we really need to make a Manager Mode thread, caus' manager mode is going to be awesome ! :p
As Placebo says I don't think anything much will differ from 08?

[Placebo]

Nope bug fixes, and possibly some kind of fatigue rotation system, that'll be about it, one of the first things I'll test is to keep a team in all cups by simulating the league matches and playing the cup matches and see if we still get the situation where you end up playing a cup match and a league match on the same day, or consecutive days, real world minimum is 48 hours I believe?

[Nick Cave]

Any news on injuries...?

[gomito#10]

Nope bug fixes, and possibly some kind of fatigue rotation system, that'll be about it, one of the first things I'll test is to keep a team in all cups by simulating the league matches and playing the cup matches and see if we still get the situation where you end up playing a cup match and a league match on the same day, or consecutive days, real world minimum is 48 hours I believe?

so far i think the AI will be different, that is good. Playing against the cpu seems better, at least on the demo. And IMO that was the biggest weakness of 08.

[football_fan]

W



Yes I considered Fifa08 the finest simulation of real football to date, and from what I can see in the 2x2 Fifa09 demo it surpasses it, can't wait.

i agree....you do consider PES a playerable game right...wot do you think of PES2009? if you got a chance to play it at all....but yes i cannot wait to play fifa09....i know when i get it i will feel like a kid in a candy store lol:DANCE:

[74ND4 8E42]

did a quick search and didnt see this bit posted
http://lusofifa.blogspot.com/2008/09/psm3-j-analisou-fifa-09.html
i dont really feel like its on point and they talk about how they dont like 08. if you couldnt find anything to like in 08 i doubt youll get excited much about 09. but just fyi for you dudes.....

[football_fan]

fifa2010 would have to work on its manager mode...it will be very important if they do many aspects can be stolen dare i say it lol...from football manager....it will add to the who fifa experience.....oh i i was able to watch the fifa 4mins ad...it great....some great goals by rooney as well....i wonder if he was really playin lol

[Placebo]

Any news on injuries...?

Nothing concrete that I recall at this time.

so far i think the AI will be different, that is good. Playing against the cpu seems better, at least on the demo. And IMO that was the biggest weakness of 08.

Yes the improved AI and gameplay will certainly mean that manager mode is much improved for everyone, even those such as myself who have played Fifa08's manager mode to death (13,000 minutes blah blah ;)))

i agree....you do consider PES a playerable game right...wot do you think of PES2009? if you got a chance to play it at all....but yes i cannot wait to play fifa09....i know when i get it i will feel like a kid in a candy store lol:DANCE:

Do I consider PES a playable game? That's a loaded question! To me PES plays like a retro game, once it was great, now it's dated in almost all areas and it doesn't interest me to play it (same as SWOS/Kick Off2 were awesome games in their day but I don't want to go back and play them). I haven't had chance to play PES2009 but from everything I see/hear it will just (IMO) be little more than a somewhat fixed broken of the intrinsically broken PES2008, to some people that's enough, to me that's nowhere close to being enough to make me choose it as a next gen football game to play.




did a quick search and didnt see this bit posted
http://lusofifa.blogspot.com/2008/09/psm3-j-analisou-fifa-09.html
i dont really feel like its on point and they talk about how they dont like 08. if you couldnt find anything to like in 08 i doubt youll get excited much about 09. but just fyi for you dudes.....

Old news but thanks for posting :)

[Emanuel]

I think they´ve blown the trough ball (triangle)... in Euro 2008 was very good, and it´s worse in FIFA 09. That´s why I disliked the demo. Me and a friend only yesterday understood what´s wrong in the game. That´s it. Euro 2008 trough balls are realistic and better.

[football_fan]

Do I consider PES a playable game? That's a loaded question! To me PES plays like a retro game, once it was great, now it's dated in almost all areas and it doesn't interest me to play it (same as SWOS/Kick Off2 were awesome games in their day but I don't want to go back and play them). I haven't had chance to play PES2009 but from everything I see/hear it will just (IMO) be little more than a somewhat fixed broken of the intrinsically broken PES2008, to some people that's enough, to me that's nowhere close to being enough to make me choose it as a next gen football game to play.


yes i understand clearly what you mean...thanks
pes2009 is basically what pes2008 shud have been...well konami is takin steps back and ea are taking two steps forward....

when can we expect a podcast on FSB? to highlight somethings about the demo and latests build of FIFA09

[Placebo]

when can we expect a podcast on FSB? to highlight somethings about the demo and latests build of FIFA09

There won't be one for the demo now, pointless with the retail being so close :)

[Placebo]

I think they´ve blown the trough ball (triangle)... in Euro 2008 was very good, and it´s worse in FIFA 09. That´s why I disliked the demo. Me and a friend only yesterday understood what´s wrong in the game. That´s it. Euro 2008 trough balls are realistic and better.

Are you using manual? It works fine for me, just needs a little more power than usual (which will hopefully be fixed).

[football_fan]

There won't be one for the demo now, pointless with the retail being so close :)

very true..
its a shame the be a pro seasons is only 4 years...i could see my self playing it for longer than that a player whole career even
but do you know if you can start a new game with the same created player after completing the four season?

sorry if this question has been asked before i may have missed it

[Placebo]

I have no idea on that sorry, but be sure to send Chris the question as he's gonna answer as many fan questions as possible in his Fifa09 hands on video :)

[Rodelero]

Are you using manual? It works fine for me, just needs a little more power than usual (which will hopefully be fixed).

It's one of the only things I find fundamentally screwed in the FIFA 09 demo. A lot of the time, it's like you don't have enough time to get adequate power, as the player gets to the ball before you can fill it enough.

[football_fan]

alright...thanks placebo, ill do that

[football_fan]

I have no idea on that sorry, but be sure to send Chris the question as he's gonna answer as many fan questions as possible in his Fifa09 hands on video :)

do you by any chance when this video will be out?...i dont wanna miss it

[Placebo]

Considering that we haven't received Fifa09 yet I can safely say the video won't be before Sunday ;)

[football_fan]

yep..thanks

[football_fan]

WENB just posted a podcast i think talking about some1 playing the final build of PES...let hear wot they have to say about thier beloverd game....did somebody just shout out bias review lol

[proxi]

Well, I scored my most impressive goal earlier, was well pleased with myself! World class difficulty, me as Milan against the scum of Chelsea.

Ronaldinho for some reason appears at CB to accept a pass from Abbiati in goal after he'd caught a previous long range attempt by Lampard. Ron passes it then plays 2 one-twos with Kaladze, then Ambrosini, bringing him up to the halfway line. The latter of the one-twos was a chipped return to the goofy cunt, which he then controls by flicking it over Mikel and laying it off to Kaka on the inside right, who then plants it through the legs of Ashley Cole, does a reverse pass that skims through the D, Ambrosini nutmegs it and Ron arrives in the box, controls the ball with his left, hits it with his right and it flies un-finessed over the keeper and into the far corner. My balls dropped.

Earlier, I'd paused the game on kick-off and gone to Chelsea's settings. Set them up differently because I wanted a change, they were pressurizing me in possession all over the pitch and taking a long time in making chances, was so clear from when I usually play them, I was getting cruely harassed like Lily Allen's mirror. Felt so good when I managed that goal, they'd got 3 bookings by then though and maybe didn't commit to as many tackles as they'd normally do?

[pepper63]

Well, I scored my most impressive goal earlier, was well pleased with myself! World class difficulty, me as Milan against the scum of Chelsea.

Ronaldinho for some reason appears at CB to accept a pass from Abbiati in goal after he'd caught a previous long range attempt by Lampard. Ron passes it then plays 2 one-twos with Kaladze, then Ambrosini, bringing him up to the halfway line. The latter of the one-twos was a chipped return to the goofy cunt, which he then controls by flicking it over Mikel and laying it off to Kaka on the inside right, who then plants it through the legs of Ashley Cole, does a reverse pass that skims through the D, Ambrosini nutmegs it and Ron arrives in the box, controls the ball with his left, hits it with his right and it flies un-finessed over the keeper and into the far corner. My balls dropped.

Earlier, I'd paused the game on kick-off and gone to Chelsea's settings. Set them up differently because I wanted a change, they were pressurizing me in possession all over the pitch and taking a long time in making chances, was so clear from when I usually play them, I was getting cruely harassed like Lily Allen's mirror. Felt so good when I managed that goal, they'd got 3 bookings by then though and maybe didn't commit to as many tackles as they'd normally do?UNBELIEVABLE!:DD

[Placebo]

Well, I scored my most impressive goal earlier, was well pleased with myself! World class difficulty, me as Milan against the scum of Chelsea.

Ronaldinho for some reason appears at CB to accept a pass from Abbiati in goal after he'd caught a previous long range attempt by Lampard. Ron passes it then plays 2 one-twos with Kaladze, then Ambrosini, bringing him up to the halfway line. The latter of the one-twos was a chipped return to the goofy cunt, which he then controls by flicking it over Mikel and laying it off to Kaka on the inside right, who then plants it through the legs of Ashley Cole, does a reverse pass that skims through the D, Ambrosini nutmegs it and Ron arrives in the box, controls the ball with his left, hits it with his right and it flies un-finessed over the keeper and into the far corner. My balls dropped.



And you don't have a video of it? Disappointing!

[Oli]

Theres such a variety of games when you play this. Can be midfield battles, one sided affairs, end to end stuff. Love it. Cant wait for the 3rd.. or 2nd if Gameplay love me

[Bitter Rivals]

placebo, chris

any idea when the next fifa podcast is..

just listened to the pes one and i was falling asleep

suff doesnt sound very enthusiastic

[airjoca]

Preview (in portuguese)

http://www.xboxteamportugal.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5506&Itemid=6

Just watching it now, if he says something new or worthy of mention, I'll post it.

Edit: No, nothing interesting at all, just trivial stuff really, most of the time he doesn't know what he's talking about, and he's crap playing it. :)

[Bingham67]

Gametrailers.com - FIFA Soccer 09 - Tight Battle Gameplay HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40333.html?type=flv)

Another new video

[sweetkilla]

yeah gd vid

[sweetkilla]

Gametrailers.com - FIFA Soccer 09 - Dominant Force Gameplay HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40335.html?type=flv)

[wan_d7]

it's xbox vid right?

[SPMC]

who's the user that's uploading these videos?
the quality looks good even in SD.

[stefano_85]

was reading an article before and it said that ea sports have localised the crowd support in fifa 09. could somebody please explain what this means and the effect it has on the game as im unsure thanks guys :)

[LOGANiSE]

Gametrailers.com - FIFA Soccer 09 - Dominant Force Gameplay HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40335.html?type=flv)

That's exactly like watching a real footy game! Sadly PES lacks THAT type of realism, it doesn't even come close. I get bored as hell watching PES gameplay footage because it's exactly how you'd expect, while this is a whole different animal.

who's the user that's uploading these videos?
the quality looks good even in SD.

It's not a user, it's gametrailers.own.

[SPMC]

It's not a user, it's gametrailers.own.

it figures :((

[Tim7]

Nice vids :)).

[Placebo]

placebo, chris

any idea when the next fifa podcast is..

No idea, it'll be based on the retail version which we hope to have sometime after this weekend, we obviously want to release videos of gameplay footage as well as that's what the majority want to see, so whether or not there'll be a new podcast before the PAL release remains to be seen, at least there should be one before the ROTW release........



just listened to the pes one and i was falling asleep

suff doesnt sound very enthusiastic

Can you blame him? :((

[kouroux]

One drawnback I can mention that I saw in FIFA 08,Euro 2008 and in the few videos i've watched from FIFA 09 is players dribbling or touching the ball with their weaker a bit too much. For instance you see the likes of Lampard doing some pass with the outside of his left foot or dribbling with his left foot as easily as the right. It's one thing PES got right I believe is players playing with their best foot and not constantly changing between them. I know there are some who are two-footed (Sneijder,Nedved) but it's a minority .
Does anyone else agree ?

[drekkard]

:LOL: I like how you put it in quotes, to highlight the "mistake". Or is that a Spanish word?

Players are "miastking" all the time, some more than others! In Spain, even the government "miastkes" a lot, we all de "miastkes" again and again.

About the other comments you did, I agree that still feels a litle scripted, but it's something we won't get rid of until processors are much more powerful and we have another kind of control input to the games.

Anyway, even with the cheats and the scriptedness, playing against the CPU has made a very big jump in quality. I'm glad because I play a lot of Manager Mode along the year, and the AI is one of the smartest I've seen in a game. Not because they win challenges and the finishing, but because of the decisions they make.

There have been a lot of times that I've said to myself "that is what I would have done" or "I didn't see it coming, it's so smart". And that's something I had never experienced in PES.

[Bitter Rivals]

Can you blame him? :((

nope, i could feel his pain :SS

[Placebo]

I was tempted to have a listen but even I'm not that self loathing ;)

[jeblo05]

...is players dribbling or touching the ball with their weaker a bit too much. For instance you see the likes of Lampard doing some pass with the outside of his left foot or dribbling with his left foot as easily as the right. It's one thing PES got right I believe is players playing with their best foot and not constantly changing between them...

yes, this (still) is one of PES strengths. But players feel more individual in FIFA09, then they used to be in previous versions.
I've spotted it's more difficult/next to impossible to perform skills with "weak" players. Also shooting with the wrong side is clearly visible...
-> EA is on track here, too. Of course there is still space to improve

[RockyJJP]

Is this game finished and has it gone gold? It must have by now.

[kouroux]

yes, this (still) is one of PES strengths. But players feel more individual in FIFA09, then they used to be in previous versions.
I've spotted it's more difficult/next to impossible to perform skills with "weak" players. Also shooting with the wrong side is clearly visible...
-> EA is on track here, too. Of course there is still space to improve

It's good here that .Something else I could add (i did before but i had no replies) is left footed players doing dribbles the same way right footed players does. Messi doing the flip flap with his right foot is an example but hopefully all of this little things will vanish for the next installment because apart from little things like these, the game looks brilliant

[Tim7]

Is this game finished and has it gone gold? It must have by now.
What does it mean to "go gold"?

[Bitter Rivals]

What does it mean to "go gold"?

i think it means finished and released for manufacturing

[Radiation]

What does it mean to "go gold"?

A game has "Gone Gold" when the final master copy has been produced at the developer and sent off for replication, packaging and shipment. The game is not yet released, but it will typically be around 2-3 weeks (sometimes less) before it begins appearing on store shelves and online pre-orders arriving at doorsteps. The term itself comes from the old practice of recordable CDs being manufactured with gold film. Hence the gold colored CD actually being the source, with no reference to copies sold as in the recording industry.

[Tim7]

Thank you :)).

[RockyJJP]

A game has "Gone Gold" when the final master copy has been produced at the developer and sent off for replication, packaging and shipment. The game is not yet released, but it will typically be around 2-3 weeks (sometimes less) before it begins appearing on store shelves and online pre-orders arriving at doorsteps. The term itself comes from the old practice of recordable CDs being manufactured with gold film. Hence the gold colored CD actually being the source, with no reference to copies sold as in the recording industry.

Wow, that was imformative, thanks bro. I never knew why they used the term gone Gold.

[Coopz]

so far i think the AI will be different, that is good. Playing against the cpu seems better, at least on the demo. And IMO that was the biggest weakness of 08.

Yeah that's a good point

At least MM should be actually playable now seeing as the AI is much improved. Im sure all the MM fans will appreciate that rather then little changes like not playing at Wembley in the final of cups

[WEtongelre]

http://gamecinemahd.com/game/Xbox360/fifa_09

Is this new?

[Coopz]

Can you blame him? :((

At least he has an awesome footy game to play this year still :))

[Placebo]

Im sure all the MM fans will appreciate that rather then little changes like not playing at Wembley in the final of cups

Funnily enough that is one of the little things that's supposedly fixed in 09's manager mode ;)

[Placebo]

Put it here: http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=9

I'll contribute :)

[football_fan]

thanks alot Placebo ;)
i have put it in the playstation 3 forum
http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=22059&page=229

and the xbox forum
http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=21663&page=234

if it get a lot of views on it...i may creat a seperate thread for it

thanks again guys
and will you also spread the word for me placebo...thanks

[tobi]

In the demo when I aim to direct a FK to the bottom corner the player doesn't listen to me and kicks it towards the top corner, what am I doing wrong?

Also how do you lay off FK's for the 2nd player like in PES?

[mjp]

In the demo when I aim to direct a FK to the bottom corner the player doesn't listen to me and kicks it towards the top corner, what am I doing wrong?

Also how do you lay off FK's for the 2nd player like in PES?

I noticed that the swerve goes in the opposite direction I would expect (I've seen this mostly during penalties so for example, when I want to put it in the top right hand corner, I press my left stick to the top right but then my right stick to the bottom right.)

On the second point, press the skill button then short pass.

[Placebo]

Also how do you lay off FK's for the 2nd player like in PES?

Surprisingly a thread search of "layoff" has the answer ;)

http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1417957&highlight=layoff#post1417957

[OPM]

9 days to go....

[luke909]

It's interesting to see the thoughts of those who don't focus as much attention to computer games as people on here with regards to Pro Evo v FIFA

http://forum.football365.com/index.php?t=msg&th=127109&start=0&

[Coopz]

Controls for New Stuff in FIFA 09

Jockey Press
-Hold LT/R2 and A/X to maintain a few yards distance from the dribbler and contain
-Release LT/R2 to go in for the tackle at the right moment
Running Jockey
-Hold LT/L2 and RT/R2 to use the running jockey.
-This is a faster paced jockey that will allow you to better position your defender without having to plant and turn.




Running Jockey and Jockey need to be mastered if you a defender in 10 vs 10

[wan_d7]

i find out the running jockey is very useful to tackle easy ball from the offender. good trick

[Geefiasco]

Ronaldinho took a FK with his left-foot while i was playing.

I held L2 for the 2nd player (Ronaldinho), he stood on the right hand side, then struck the ball with his left-foot.

I hope EA sort this out.

[gomito#10]

9 days to go....

i hate you :)

[sweetkilla]

It's interesting to see the thoughts of those who don't focus as much attention to computer games as people on here with regards to Pro Evo v FIFA

http://forum.football365.com/index.php?t=msg&th=127109&start=0&

like this comment I just found on tht forum

As i've said in the past. If FIFA came with a lump of gold and PES had a poo in the box, I'd still buy PES

[Rob92]

Not a big thing, but I love how there are different arena styles - the one with Chelsea on that video looks very different to the one in the demo. I suspect that the style is based on the arena player you choose.

I could also probably spend ages just taking shots at goal in the arena before matches at the different stadiums, I get really addicted to the arena on the 09 demo, and I spent a long time in it on 08.

I need to preorder this soon.

I hope they sort the player ratings out for lesser teams - Kevin Kyle needs to be rated about 50 and Aron Gunnarsson needs to have a massive throw :).

[Joe]

Not a big thing, but I love how there are different arena styles - the one with Chelsea on that video looks very different to the one in the demo. I suspect that the style is based on the arena player you choose.

I could also probably spend ages just taking shots at goal in the arena before matches at the different stadiums, I get really addicted to the arena on the 09 demo, and I spent a long time in it on 08.

I need to preorder this soon.

I hope they sort the player ratings out for lesser teams - Kevin Kyle needs to be rated about 50 and Aron Gunnarsson needs to have a massive throw :).

Imagine they put a HUGE throw for Rory Delap!

[Rob92]

Imagine they put a HUGE throw for Rory Delap!It would be bad for Stoke fans if he didn't, Stoke are nothing without him :-pp.

Gunnarsson's throws are very similar to Delap's, here is a video of one on his debut.

YouTube - Aron Gunnarsson debut ccfc 09/08/08 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVZjJUmCmrw)

I think that should be reflected in the game - throw ins are as much of a threat as corners (or more so) if you have a Delap or Gunnarsson in the team in real life.

No game has got long throws right before I don't think, on FIFA 08 throwing it, getting a flick on and finishing it would result in a goal 9/10 times, and in both PES and FIFA they don't go far enough.

[sweetkilla]

Not a big thing, but I love how there are different arena styles - the one with Chelsea on that video looks very different to the one in the demo. I suspect that the style is based on the arena player you choose.

I could also probably spend ages just taking shots at goal in the arena before matches at the different stadiums, I get really addicted to the arena on the 09 demo, and I spent a long time in it on 08.

I need to preorder this soon.

I hope they sort the player ratings out for lesser teams - Kevin Kyle needs to be rated about 50 and Aron Gunnarsson needs to have a massive throw :).


you can choose from 5 arena's :)

[oFifa09o]

My only gripe about fifa 09 is the trajectire of the ball when it goes down...its too slow imo...and the shots can be improved alot...

[proxi]

And you don't have a video of it? Disappointing!
Indeed, my initial reaction was just "wow", and I just carried on looking forward to the highlights. Fact too that I've man flu and am incredibly slow(er) lately.

[WEtongelre]

9 days to go....

374 days left for FIFA 2010 :CRY:

[PESV]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/247562.html

<strike>I believe this is new, otherwise im sorry. (its a usermovie btw, not one of the gametrailers.com movies from today.</strike>

update: seems to be a bit old :)

[WEtongelre]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/247562.html

I believe this is new, otherwise im sorry. (its a usermovie btw, not one of the gametrailers.com movies from today.

Wow, you're not kidding us don't you? Mate this is 2 months old or so... Where have you bin? :-pp

[unbornchikkenvoices]

quick question

How do you dummy the ball in fifa? i.e let it run through your legs etc

cheers

[Chris Davies]

Hold down R1 on PS3, RB on 360.

[Keith Houchen]

quick question

How do you dummy the ball in fifa? i.e let it run through your legs etc

cheers

Press R1/RB (or whatever button you've mapped the finesse shot to) at just the right moment. Works superbly well! There's a way to turn and run onto the dummied ball with the same player too.

[unbornchikkenvoices]

Press R1/RB (or whatever button you've mapped the finesse shot to) at just the right moment. Works superbly well! There's a way to turn and run onto the dummied ball with the same player too.


That sounds class, anyone know how it is done?

In PES if you tap L1 after passing the ball the player (who did the pass)
did a run into space, I always thought it would be a good idea if you could do something similar after dummying the ball, so the player would dummy then run into space ready to recieve a pass.

this would be easy to impliment (in either game) and a very useful move

thanks

[Rob92]

you can choose from 5 arena's :)That sounds good, I will be checking them out when I get the game. I think the arena is an awesome thing, doing tricks, taking shots and practicing free kicks while the match loads is far better than sitting, watching a "Now Loading..." screen.

That sounds class, anyone know how it is done?

In PES if you tap L1 after passing the ball the player (who did the pass)
did a run into space, I always thought it would be a good idea if you could do something similar after dummying the ball, so the player would dummy then run into space ready to recieve a pass.

this would be easy to impliment (in either game) and a very useful move

thanksThe move where you run after a ball you let run through your legs is:

Hold R1/RB + Hold left stick in opposite direction player is facing.

The pass and move thing is:

Hold L1/LB + A/X

The player passes then quickly makes a run, and they sometimes point where they want the ball played which looks really cool :).

[unbornchikkenvoices]

That sounds good, I will be checking them out when I get the game. I think the arena is an awesome thing, doing tricks, taking shots and practicing free kicks while the match loads is far better than sitting, watching a "Now Loading..." screen.

The move where you run after a ball you let run through your legs is:

Hold R1/RB + Hold left stick in opposite direction player is facing.

The pass and move thing is:

Hold L1/LB + A/X

The player passes then quickly makes a run, and they sometimes point where they want the ball played which looks really cool :).

Sound!

I'll go and have a play

[jessegaron]

So will Robinho have a City kit on in Fifa 09?

I wonder whether the Man U bias will still be there in this version?

[Placebo]

So will Robinho have a City kit on in Fifa 09?


He'll obviously be in the Manchester City team yes.

[OPM]

transfers are only in up to the 26th august or something, but i guess big transfers like robinho still made it in

[luke909]

I know you can have 10 v 10 online, but how many can you play online from the same console?

So if I had 5 mates round, could we all play on the same team online?

[Placebo]

transfers are only in up to the 26th august or something, but i guess big transfers like robinho still made it in

That's only with the demo, retail transfers should be up to 1st September, there might even be some of the loans from 8th September in the game.

[TikTikTikTikTik]

I was thinking about the difficulty settings today, oddly enough it was while I was walking to the loo at work,... anyway I came to the conclusion that they should make the difficulty changes based on teams, maybe even relative to your own team.

What I was thinking was most of the complaints are aimed at stoke becoming real/manu/etc when using the WC difficulty. I am using 08 as an example atm. So maybe they should have a gradient scale whereby only certain teams get upgraded beyond certain levels. For example playing Accrington with Liverpool on WC wouldnt be any different from playing them on PRO because the difference is too big between the two teams. You could even have the same with teams in the same league, stoke/hull/etc don't become any better. The difference is in the upper teams, so Manu/Chelsea/Arsenal become really, really strong making those games all the more interesting, challenging. Atm I don't find it harder to beat Manu or Boro, the difficulty settings just seems to make them all a bit stronger, and too close/similar. They could do it with the team ratings, so 1-2 star teams won't go any higher then semi-pro. Meaning if you go to pro rating they don;t become any harder/better. 3 star teams don't go any higher then pro, 4* WC and 5* up to legendary.

I think they have this system in place somewhat as I find the CL matches (the knockout rounds) to be harder then the league even when playing against poorer teams. But this seems to be a "blanket" making every single team that bit harder which shouldnt be the case.

There would need to be a nice balance, but I think it would make the game better. The general league matches would be fairly simple when using a top team, still a challenge but not ridiculously hard, while the higher the difficulty the tougher the top teams become. I remember experiencing this with PES in the ML (6*). I would be able to beat most of the league without too much hassle but playing the top teams would always be really tough and be so rewarding when winning. It gave it more character aswell.

So good idea or not?

[kevano22]

Were you taking a biiiig shit when you thought of that?

[Rob92]

I think anything that makes teams harder/easier to beat based on how good they are is a good idea. I think they have improved it in 09 though, I usually win 2 or 3-0 against Toronto while I struggle to score against Milan.
The Toronto players also seem to make a few more mistakes as well as their keeper being a bit easier to beat.

[PESV]

I think anything that makes teams harder/easier to beat based on how good they are is a good idea. I think they have improved it in 09 though, I usually win 2 or 3-0 against Toronto while I struggle to score against Milan.
The Toronto players also seem to make a few more mistakes as well as their keeper being a bit easier to beat.

Yeah just remember back in the days with SWOS how it was really something special if you could beat AC Milan with your mediocre team. Now, its just nice to win, but it does not really matter against who. Perhaps only which one of your mates.

I like the suggestion for the dummy made a page earlier. How about a dummy shot which ends up as a subtle little pass. You see this all the time where a striker feints a shot and instead lays it of to the player next to him who has a clear shot.

[Blaccat]

EA better include Arsenal carling Cup XI in the game

[OPM]

That's only with the demo, retail transfers should be up to 1st September, there might even be some of the loans from 8th September in the game.


versions of the past years allways had the 26. or 28. mentioned in the start up screen as the deadline for implented transfers, as far as i can remember? :SHAKE:

[hitmanuk]

Is anyone else getting pissed off with PES fans just slagging this game off without even trying it...comments like "ive played one game and its crap..same old FIFA" ...what a load of bollocks...or "the shootings shit" ...maybe its because they can't talk about their game as there basically nothing to talk about..who knows but its proper annoying..its obvious they don't like it before they even boot it up then press the shoot button once thinking its going to fly into the top corner and when it doesn't they put it down to poor ball physics..This is really hard for me typing as I have been an PES fan for years and years and have now converted..anyways rant over

[sweetkilla]

Is anyone else getting pissed off with PES fans just slagging this game off without even trying it...comments like "ive played one game and its crap..same old FIFA" ...what a load of bollocks...or "the shootings shit" ...maybe its because they can't talk about their game as there basically nothing to talk about..who knows but its proper annoying..its obvious they don't like it before they even boot it up then press the shoot button once thinking its going to fly into the top corner and when it doesn't they put it down to poor ball physics..This is really hard for me typing as I have been an PES fan for years and years and have now converted..anyways rant over

now you realise it#s not only fifa fans who have a bunch of morons as fans

[Rodelero]

I know you can have 10 v 10 online, but how many can you play online from the same console?

So if I had 5 mates round, could we all play on the same team online?

There is no confirmation on this either way if my memory serves me correctly, however, I believe you will NOT be able to play in Be a Pro in this way at all. One person per console at maximum.

However, you can play normal matches in this way. On the 360 you can play 4v4, so presumeably on the PS3 you can play 7v7. 7 players on your console, vs 7 against someone else.

This would be in normal cooperative play, rather than a locked-to-a-player system.

[Blaccat]

Is anyone else getting pissed off with PES fans just slagging this game off without even trying it...comments like "ive played one game and its crap..same old FIFA" ...what a load of bollocks...or "the shootings shit" ...maybe its because they can't talk about their game as there basically nothing to talk about..who knows but its proper annoying..its obvious they don't like it before they even boot it up then press the shoot button once thinking its going to fly into the top corner and when it doesn't they put it down to poor ball physics..This is really hard for me typing as I have been an PES fan for years and years and have now converted..anyways rant over

how about this one

Originally Posted by Merkleberry Finn View Post
Fifa aint really changed that much since RTWC 98. Think they can get away with having a new gimmick.

[jeblo05]

Is anyone else getting pissed off with PES fans just slagging this game off without even trying it...

they are those who were praising FIFA01/02/03 and slagging off PES1/2/3

;)

I'm angry with the gaming mags, at least they should be impartial...

[Rob92]

Is anyone else getting pissed off with PES fans just slagging this game off without even trying it...comments like "ive played one game and its crap..same old FIFA" ...what a load of bollocks...or "the shootings shit" ...maybe its because they can't talk about their game as there basically nothing to talk about..who knows but its proper annoying..its obvious they don't like it before they even boot it up then press the shoot button once thinking its going to fly into the top corner and when it doesn't they put it down to poor ball physics..This is really hard for me typing as I have been an PES fan for years and years and have now converted..anyways rant overYep, I agree, they are twats.
It is their loss though, not ours - we can still enjoy FIFA 09 while they make themselves get a bit of fun out of the (imo) inferior and unrealistic PES.

As I said in another thread here, FIFA is only a great game when you know how to play it and if you know football well and put the effort into adapting to the game. Those twats however, clearly don't have the football brain or patience to play FIFA, so they resort to playing a much easier game which requires no real tactics or skill...

I've said it before, but there is nothing better in a football game than to spot a run of a player on the other side of the pitch, and play an inch perfect manual long ball through the defence and right to their feet or into the space ahead of them and then placing a manual finish into the bottom corner. FIFA lets you do this, PES doesn't.

PES has had it's time, as Placebo has said - it's become one of those things which you look back on with fond memories but you wouldn't want to play any more, much like SWOS or Kick Off 2.

Hopefully it can come back strongly in the next year or two and be a proper competitor with FIFA so we have two good games, but that is very wishful thinking, not realistic thinking. When you look at the current gap in quality between FIFA and PES, and the gap in the budgets of EA's FIFA team and Konami's PES team, and the talent of the developers on each game, and the attitudes of both companies (EA = Making big strides each year, good PR etc. Konami = complete opposite of that) it looks extremely unlikely to come any time soon, if ever...

[Nick Cave]

PES has had it's time, as Placebo has said - it's become one of those things which you look back on with fond memories but you wouldn't want to play any more, much like SWOS or Kick Off 2.



Hey...;))

[Emanuel]

Yep, I agree, they are twats.
It is their loss though, not ours - we can still enjoy FIFA 09 while they make themselves get a bit of fun out of the (imo) inferior and unrealistic PES.

As I said in another thread here, FIFA is only a great game when you know how to play it and if you know football well and put the effort into adapting to the game. Those twats however, clearly don't have the football brain or patience to play FIFA, so they resort to playing a much easier game which requires no real tactics or skill...

I've said it before, but there is nothing better in a football game than to spot a run of a player on the other side of the pitch, and play an inch perfect manual long ball through the defence and right to their feet or into the space ahead of them and then placing a manual finish into the bottom corner. FIFA lets you do this, PES doesn't.

PES has had it's time, as Placebo has said - it's become one of those things which you look back on with fond memories but you wouldn't want to play any more, much like SWOS or Kick Off 2.

Hopefully it can come back strongly in the next year or two and be a proper competitor with FIFA so we have two good games, but that is very wishful thinking, not realistic thinking. When you look at the current gap in quality between FIFA and PES, and the gap in the budgets of EA's FIFA team and Konami's PES team, and the talent of the developers on each game, and the attitudes of both companies (EA = Making big strides each year, good PR etc. Konami = complete opposite of that) it looks extremely unlikely to come any time soon, if ever...


I understand your point of view. I´m a PES fan boy, however I played FIFA 08 and Euro 2008 this year because PES is really bad now. But let me tell you something. I never had such satisfaction playing FIFA 08/Euro as I had in PES 3/4/5 times. FIFA is good, is more realistic than pes, but there are many things missing.

Tactics for example. We can´t use our custom tactics online and that´s bad. I used to play with Chelsea just because I liked their 4-3-3 formation. But I would prefer to use that formation in Real Madrid and I couldn´t. FIFA needs more tactical customization online (offline is good and this year is even better).

Also we should have the option to play with D-pad and yeah.. I know the game has 360 degree but what if I prefer to play with D-pad? Doesn´t matter if I loose 360 degree. I just wanted to play with the D-pad because I hate analog.

Tricks, Skills, feints. Yeah it´s nice seeing them on youtube but the system could be more intuitive and less tricks (no one starts kicking the ball in the air in the middle of a match). They should left that stuff for their fifa street.

And an important thing.. Goalkeeper Cursor is needed! I used to suffer many goals from cutbacks because I couldn´t move my keeper to the middle of the goal. It is even necessary when your oponnent is in a clear 1on1 situation with your keeper. You should be able to move him.

As a football lover I appreciate the tactical mind games, and it´s a shame to me that FIFA doesn´t let you customize your tactics online. Those points I refered annoys me too much to say "I love FIFA as I loved PES". FIFA is better now, but no way it is a masterpiece. It is just... better for now...

[Gunners`]

Yep, I agree, they are twats.
It is their loss though, not ours - we can still enjoy FIFA 09 while they make themselves get a bit of fun out of the (imo) inferior and unrealistic PES.

As I said in another thread here, FIFA is only a great game when you know how to play it and if you know football well and put the effort into adapting to the game. Those twats however, clearly don't have the football brain or patience to play FIFA, so they resort to playing a much easier game which requires no real tactics or skill...

I've said it before, but there is nothing better in a football game than to spot a run of a player on the other side of the pitch, and play an inch perfect manual long ball through the defence and right to their feet or into the space ahead of them and then placing a manual finish into the bottom corner. FIFA lets you do this, PES doesn't.

PES has had it's time, as Placebo has said - it's become one of those things which you look back on with fond memories but you wouldn't want to play any more, much like SWOS or Kick Off 2.

Hopefully it can come back strongly in the next year or two and be a proper competitor with FIFA so we have two good games, but that is very wishful thinking, not realistic thinking. When you look at the current gap in quality between FIFA and PES, and the gap in the budgets of EA's FIFA team and Konami's PES team, and the talent of the developers on each game, and the attitudes of both companies (EA = Making big strides each year, good PR etc. Konami = complete opposite of that) it looks extremely unlikely to come any time soon, if ever...

hope PES kids fanboys can understand this wonderful words from ya ,, i really was one of PES fans but after playing fifa 08 and EURo 2008 ,, i hated konami and PES coz they are dump and cheated me alot .. i cant wait for this masterpeace fifa 09 anymore :/

[ptfcdb]

Was messing around in the arena earlier trying to hit hard dipping shots when this happened...

YouTube - Fifa 09 Demo - comedy goal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osdc2c0oWGM)

Couldn't help but laugh and be impressed at the same time.:DD

[Gunners`]

I understand your point of view. I´m a PES fan boy, however I played FIFA 08 and Euro 2008 this year because PES is really bad now. But let me tell you something. I never had such satisfaction playing FIFA 08/Euro as I had in PES 3/4/5 times. FIFA is good, is more realistic than pes, but there are many things missing.

Tactics for example. We can´t use our custom tactics online and that´s bad. I used to play with Chelsea just because I liked their 4-3-3 formation. But I would prefer to use that formation in Real Madrid and I couldn´t. FIFA needs more tactical customization online (offline is good and this year is even better).

Also we should have the option to play with D-pad and yeah.. I know the game has 360 degree but what if I prefer to play with D-pad? Doesn´t matter if I loose 360 degree. I just wanted to play with the D-pad because I hate analog.

Tricks, Skills, feints. Yeah it´s nice seeing them on youtube but the system could be more intuitive and less tricks (no one starts kicking the ball in the air in the middle of a match). They should left that stuff for their fifa street.

And an important thing.. Goalkeeper Cursor is needed! I used to suffer many goals from cutbacks because I couldn´t move my keeper to the middle of the goal. It is even necessary when your oponnent is in a clear 1on1 situation with your keeper. You should be able to move him.

As a football lover I appreciate the tactical mind games, and it´s a shame to me that FIFA doesn´t let you customize your tactics online. Those points I refered annoys me too much to say "I love FIFA as I loved PES". FIFA is better now, but no way it is a masterpiece. It is just... better for now...

Tactics if u complain about online so dont coz PES give us the badest online ever in PES2008 - and EA fixed the tactics things in 09


D-pad you can play with the d-pad in fifa 09 now :) and or the analog


Tricks, Skills, feints all this skills already in a real life soccer and you dont know when the players gonna do them and sprise us with them so its relastic and its about to you if u wanna do them or not :) and PES give us only 4 real life tricks !!

Goalkeeper Cursor the crosses in real life its the hardest moments for the keepers its relastic and in fifa 09 i tried that and its worked but not 100%

[Emanuel]

Tactics if u complain about online so dont coz PES give us the badest online ever in PES2008 - and EA fixed the tactics things in 09


D-pad you can play with the d-pad in fifa 09 now :) and or the analog


Tricks, Skills, feints all this skills already in a real life soccer and you dont know when the players gonna do them and sprise us with them so its relastic and its about to you if u wanna do them or not :) and PES give us only 4 real life tricks !!

Goalkeeper Cursor the crosses in real life its the hardest moments for the keepers its relastic and in fifa 09 i tried that and its worked but not 100%

Where can I change the setting to play with the D-pad? is it possible in the demo? Sorry then... didn´t know that :)

Yeah mate I know EA fixed the tactics. They´re awesome allowing you to choose the team organization and stuff. But I just want all options to be avaiable online. Like Player position Edit, individual runs like PES, you understand? :)

edit: I found where we can change the d-pad setting. Thanks and sorry :)

[Gunners`]

Where can I change the setting to play with the D-pad? is it possible in the demo? Sorry then... didn´t know that :)

Yeah mate I know EA fixed the tactics. They´re awesome allowing you to choose the team organization and stuff. But I just want all options to be avaiable online. Like Player position Edit, individual runs like PES, you understand? :)

you can select your own control system when the demo star it ask you about the difficalty and then the control so you have to choose between ( classic - new - or custom ) so you can custom your own :) and about the tactics fifa fix this in 09 dont worry hope i helped ya out there and sorry for my bad english :)

[Gunners`]

guys hope EA give ARSENAL 5 stars rating they really desirve it ARSNAL got the best talent players and must give them the good state skills
hope so KOnami alway underrate them :/

[Gunners`]

Where can I change the setting to play with the D-pad? is it possible in the demo? Sorry then... didn´t know that :)

Yeah mate I know EA fixed the tactics. They´re awesome allowing you to choose the team organization and stuff. But I just want all options to be avaiable online. Like Player position Edit, individual runs like PES, you understand? :)

edit: I found where we can change the d-pad setting. Thanks and sorry :)

did it work ?

[MadsenDK1987]

Was messing around in the arena earlier trying to hit hard dipping shots when this happened...

YouTube - Fifa 09 Demo - comedy goal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osdc2c0oWGM)

Couldn't help but laugh and be impressed at the same time.:DD

OMG!!!! Hahaha. Laughed my ass off :DD That's funny s***te.
:applaud: :LOL:

Reminded me of this one!

YouTube - Funny Penalty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TSXjTn2lF8)

:LOL:

[gameklip]

that's the same as the real vid. WOW. that's hilarious and impressive all at once :lol:

[oFifa09o]

IMO the point isnt to play just a 100% simulation of football (that would be uncontrollable and boring....) the point is to play a GAME that lets us controll footballers 11v11...and the most skilled RL player to win not the one who has the higher stats....
Thus in order for KONAMI to compete with EA they should ditch all that stat mumbo jumbo and pre match tactics....just make all players the same skill...as its in FIFA...

[Placebo]

versions of the past years allways had the 26. or 28. mentioned in the start up screen as the deadline for implented transfers, as far as i can remember? :SHAKE:

Well remember I'm a data editor ;) We were told to have all the final transfers done in time for the end of 1st September and I was given the impression that they would feature in the retail version :)

[kouroux]

guys hope EA give ARSENAL 5 stars rating they really desirve it ARSNAL got the best talent players and must give them the good state skills
hope so KOnami alway underrate them :/

Very debatable :-pp