FIFA 09 PS3/360 Discussion Thread

[OPM]

New Screenshots!

Link (http://www.gamersyde.com/news_7095_en.html)

:w00t:

de rossi looks stunning :coolpink::w00t:

[J79]

sorry if this has already been asked but how do you dummy the ball, ie. let a pass go through your legs for another team mate to run on to?

it's in one of the trailers so i'm presuming it's definitely in the game but i haven't been able to execute it yet.

sorry again if this has already been asked

regards

[Scorpio]

Rooney's chest hair is a little too much detail for me...

::runs green faced to the bathroom::

[DaWolf]

YouTube - Fifa 09 Rabona PIRLO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCBZQUIpvjU)

not mine

[DagsJT]

sorry if this has already been asked but how do you dummy the ball, ie. let a pass go through your legs for another team mate to run on to?

it's in one of the trailers so i'm presuming it's definitely in the game but i haven't been able to execute it yet.

sorry again if this has already been asked

regards

RB I think mate.

[mjsmith2k]

On alternative hit R1(PS3)/RB(XBOX 360) as the ball is passed to you

[Shooto]

how the hell do you activate the celebrations?

I finally managed to score on World class but the instructions to celebrate flashed up too quickly.

After so many games without scoring I want to celebrate :-)

[Nick Cave]

how the hell do you activate the celebrations?

I finally managed to score on World class but the instructions to celebrate flashed up too quickly.

After so many games without scoring I want to celebrate :-)
Nooooo I hope they have forgotten to put them in... ;))

[J79]

cheers boys, i'll give it a go when i get home

[mjsmith2k]

how the hell do you activate the celebrations?

I finally managed to score on World class but the instructions to celebrate flashed up too quickly.

After so many games without scoring I want to celebrate :-)

Pause the game, there are instructions.

[mjsmith2k]

Right, my two penneth.

Great demo. One bugbear that is STILL there, that still fucking annoys me. When a corner kick is cleared we are still not allowed to switch player. I was through on goal on a number of a occasions but couldn't volley the ball because I couldn't control my player.

I really hope they sort this come the final release.

[Coopz]

Crikey. Reading into all this, I'm actually inclined to believe that Fifa will outshine PES this year. [/shock]

This year?

It did last year as well so don't be to shocked

[Nick Cave]

This year?

It did last year as well so don't be to shocked
I did floaters that outshone 2008...

[Coopz]

how the hell do you activate the celebrations?

I finally managed to score on World class but the instructions to celebrate flashed up too quickly.

After so many games without scoring I want to celebrate :-)

Pause the game and check the celebrations list, it tells you all of them and how to do them ala Euro

I always did a flip but landed on my arse

[luke909]

Just deleted the US and down loading UK, sooo slooow...

What's the difference between US and UK?

[jflores]

Question...Is the PAL xbox360 version different than the US version?

I hope so, because I am thinking on downloading the UK version to see if perhaps that version is superior to the US version.

[Scutch]

This year?

It did last year as well so don't be to shocked

Well, as shocking as PES 2008 was, I still preferred it to FIFA 2008. Each to their own et al.

Saying that, I was using a patched version on the PS2 ;))

[Nick Cave]

Runs better for me, UK to US... Not sure why that should be but it does?

[janneblaffa]

checkout Suffwan´s new article on FSB! very good reading...

[chriscrocker]

I'm noticing a lot of FPS lag on replays and in arena. (Xbox360 @ 720p) Not a game ruiner but it certainly detracts from the experience. Would be good if they sort it out for the final release or perhaps people know some tips for improving it.

[imothop]

Also player switching is taking a bit of getting used to.

I really love the player switching in Fifa, it is so great. With the right analog stick you can switch to every player you want, anytime. you really have full control. it can't be better than this.

[Coopz]

Well, as shocking as PES 2008 was, I still preferred it to FIFA 2008. Each to their own et al.

Saying that, I was using a patched version on the PS2 ;))

Yep each to there own

[J79]

coopz, everytime i see your avatar and see chuck getting knocked silly a little bit of me dies :( sorry for being off topic but it's the end of an era :(

[twoodster]

I'm noticing a lot of FPS lag on replays and in arena. (Xbox360 @ 720p) Not a game ruiner but it certainly detracts from the experience. Would be good if they sort it out for the final release or perhaps people know some tips for improving it.

Gawd, have they still not sorted out the framerate in replays? That always put me off buying the full game. I find it really distracting when the game plays so smooth and then it turns into a slideshow during the replays and cut scenes

[Jamie LUFC]

Can someone from FIFA Soccer blog maybe, be able to tell us how old the build used for the demo is?

Reading Suffwan's article, it sounds as if he was playing a much newer build than that we are all playing at the minute?

[jflores]

Can someone from FIFA Soccer blog maybe, be able to tell us how old the build used for the demo is?

Reading Suffwan's article, it sounds as if he was playing a much newer build than that we are all playing at the minute?

Oh man I sure hope so..

[Bitter Rivals]

Can someone from FIFA Soccer blog maybe, be able to tell us how old the build used for the demo is?

Reading Suffwan's article, it sounds as if he was playing a much newer build than that we are all playing at the minute?

i would like to know this aswell..

would be nice if this was only a 70% product

[Jamie LUFC]

It's definetley older than the end of August that's for sure due to Robinho still being active at Real Madrid etc.

And im sure that demo has to have a month's approval from Microsoft and Sony, before its allowed to be published on the marketplace and PSN, so my guess is the build is from around July time.

However if someone can confirm that would be smashing.

[Chris Davies]

All we can say is that both the demo and the build Suff played were not the final version. So you can imagine tweaks being in the retail product.

[ptfcdb]

- the shoting is to easy and to accucary. Yes i can choose manual shoting settings,but where is the advantage? It is only more difficult...
- the passing to easy and to accucary.

Not sure i understand this. On the one hand you are saying it is a negative thing that the shooting is too accurate and easy. You also identify that you could change to manual.
If you are really saying that the shooting (presumably on auto) is too accurate and easy and that is a bad thing then the "advantage" of putting it on manual (or semi) is that the shooting becomes harder and less accurate.
I don't see how you can criticise the game for this - if you want the challenge play on manual or semi and if you don't play on auto.

[Coopz]

coopz, everytime i see your avatar and see chuck getting knocked silly a little bit of me dies :( sorry for being off topic but it's the end of an era :(

Yeah same here but its a awesome KO

Liddel aint been the same man since the fame went to his head after he Beat Couture and Ortiz

[Coopz]

All we can say is that both the demo and the build Suff played were not the final version. So you can imagine tweaks being in the retail product.

Hopefully that include the bend on free kicks and err i cant think of anything else

[J79]

had chuck thrown that uppercut a split second earlier we might me looking at a completely different result. his torn hammy didn't help in the build up either.

Back on topic, Fifa 09 demo fantastic

[danhammer]

still haven't played it yet :-(

[Nick Cave]

still haven't played it yet :-(

It's on EU now and still pretty quick download, are you at work now Dan?

[Chris Davies]

Just scored an absolutely unbelievable goal, I hit the ball with venom after running a bit in midfield (just to relieve the pressure to be honest) and it went in. Reminds me of Di Matteo's goal in the FA Cup years ago:

YouTube - Robert DiMatteo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVGi-j2g5CE)

I'm still loving the demo, I've only seen two "issues" so far - the speed (which I have to admit is just a bit too fast), and I've seen the CPU score a scissor-kick directly from my defender chesting the ball a couple of inches forward (would never happen).

Can't wait to take this baby online though, October is too far away.

[Trance_Allstar]

Not sure i understand this. On the one hand you are saying it is a negative thing that the shooting is too accurate and easy. You also identify that you could change to manual.
If you are really saying that the shooting (presumably on auto) is too accurate and easy and that is a bad thing then the "advantage" of putting it on manual (or semi) is that the shooting becomes harder and less accurate.
I don't see how you can criticise the game for this - if you want the challenge play on manual or semi and if you don't play on auto.


Basically, what I think he is saying is that the shooting might be too accurate at hitting exactly where your aim was.

Basically, the reason I don't find "Manual" shooting to be worth using is that in real life, if I "shoot", I aim to hit the goal, which is sort of obvious. So "Semi" allows me to use the full range of the analog stick to aim anywhere on the goal, and a small distance outside the posts to perhaps compensate for possible curl.
So the "aim" isn't where the challenge to shooting should come from (since, if I am shooting for goal, I would in most cases be aiming somewhere on goal, thus I don't need to be able to aim for the corner flag or extremem distances from the goal). Instead the challenge of shooting, as in real life, simply comes from the task of translating where you want to aim, to where the ball ends up.

When you see a player in real life who, from the penalty spot, misses a shot by 5 meters from the post, you can sort of guess that he was aiming at goal. So the aim, and the direction the ball ended up going, were very different. These types of misshits and differences between aim and shot might be underrepresented in FIFA09, leading to unrealistic amounts of shots that find just the spot you were aiming for. Very few players in real life can pick out the top corner from a distance. Depending on the skill of the player, they will have a "natural" shot dispersion that will make a ball differ from the intended trajectory by a certain number of degrees. Also depending on stats, the player will also have a certain degree of natural "mishits", where the ball hits even wider than his natural dispersion degree.



So the problem that the poster might have is that if you aim for the top corner from 25 meters (with semi shooting):

1. 8 out of 10 shots will hit almost exactly where you were aiming, with a dispersion radius of, say, 20cm from that aim point.

2. The remaining 2/10 shots will perhaps have a dispersion degree of perhaps 50cm radius from the aim point.



Whereas in real life:

1. 1 or 2 balls out of 10 might find the top corner

2. 6 balls land within the natural dispersion area for the player, which from the distance might be 1.5 meters from the aim point (top corner)

3. 2-3 balls are what might be called "mishits", landing outside the players natural dispersion area, with more unpredictable dispersion degrees, depending on the severity of the mishit (meaning 1 ball might've hit 3 meters from the top corner, and 1 might've simply rolled on the ground to the side from a complete mishit, not even making it to the goal.




This disconnect from reality, which has nothing to with intention (where you are aiming with the analog stick), and everything to do with execution (the physical task of kicking the ball and the skill of the player to perform what he intends), was what I took from the original post.

[danhammer]

It's on EU now and still pretty quick download, are you at work now Dan?

yes mate in work at the moment

tried to setup a US account late last night but couldn't remember my psn password....it logs me on automatically normally and now i can't remember it haha

anyways i'll download it later when i get home....itching to play it now fella

[world`soccer]

guys !! no body answered me for ages !! how can i change the game speed coz i read some guys talking about changing the speed !! ?

[Coopz]

Search this thread mate its already in here

http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=1441182&nojs=1#goto_threadsearch

[Blaccat]

guys !! no body answered me for ages !! how can i change the game speed coz i read some guys talking about changing the speed !! ?
Its not in the demo

[Coopz]

It is but im not searching for someone else to find out when they can do i there self

its in the options before you start a match somewhere

[DagsJT]

Changing game speed is in the demo.

Go to game settings after you've chosen your teams, press R1 (i think), then R2 and it's at the bottom.

[BobbyBox]

Its not in the demo

Yes it is

[Blaccat]

The Uk demo is 784mb

The US was 754mb

[Bingham67]

Got the Pal PSN still has blockyness for me in arena same as NTSC. (Not sure 1080 bug on PS3 or something wouldnt be first time with game not visible on 360 version at all)

And i had the feeling last night but wanted to test all out to see if not going loopy. But for me Slow and Normal on PS3 play a more speedy game compared to Xbox 360 version they are not same settings feels different.

360 1080 over VGA and PS3 1080 over HDMI and last night i had them on both same time and was flicking over playing each one and PS3 seems tad bit quicker on each setting strange i cant work out if speed or response it seems abit of both.

[Jamie LUFC]

WOW! I have just scored an absolutley awesome volley! Never have I seen so much pace, power and bend on ball physics as I have just witnessed.

Crossed in from the left and my striker struck from about 25 yards out, so cleanly it absolutley riffled above the keepers head and dipped under the cross bar.

The bend on the ball was unbelivable.

In fact it is the best goal I have ever scored on any football game.

WOW.

[twoodster]

I wish they'd include the commentary in the demo. They did for the Euro one.

[DagsJT]

WOW! I have just scored an absolutley awesome volley! Never have I seen so much pace, power and bend on ball physics as I have just witnessed.

Crossed in from the left and my striker struck from about 25 yards out, so cleanly it absolutley riffled above the keepers head and dipped under the cross bar.

The bend on the ball was unbelivable.

In fact it is the best goal I have ever scored on any football game.

WOW.

And you didn't record a video of it? :LOL:

[Blaccat]

Changing game speed is in the demo.

Go to game settings after you've chosen your teams, press R1 (i think), then R2 and it's at the bottom.
Thanks bro

[gameklip]

Got the Pal PSN still has blockyness for me in arena same as NTSC. (Not sure 1080 bug on PS3 or something wouldnt be first time with game not visible on 360 version at all)

And i had the feeling last night but wanted to test all out to see if not going loopy. But for me Slow and Normal on PS3 play a more speedy game compared to Xbox 360 version they are not same settings feels different.

360 1080 over VGA and PS3 1080 over HDMI and last night i had them on both same time and was flicking over playing each one and PS3 seems tad bit quicker on each setting strange i cant work out if speed or response it seems abit of both.


damn i really wanted to get this on my PS3 too.

[Cammey]

I wish they'd include the commentary in the demo. They did for the Euro one.

It's catch 22 tho If they had added the commentary the file size would have been much bigger.

[kobashi]

anyone read this

http://www.fifasoccerblog.com/2008/09/fifa-09-play-test-update.html

[matt1288]

So far so good, played a few matches so far using Real Madrid, Milan and Chelsea and I must say you can really feel the individual player when your using them. I love the the way the Ai are playing as well, they build up their own unique plays which trick you, and it's a challenge. Also the headers are a massive improvement, you can challenge for them and they look brilliant.

I love the game, and it's a must by.

Only a few minor things, the speed is a bit to much, and the tackles sometimes look over-exaggerated.

[twoodster]

It's catch 22 tho If they had added the commentary the file size would have been much bigger.

If you can download 700 meg, whats another 200 or so!

[heraldo7]

But for me Slow and Normal on PS3 play a more speedy game compared to Xbox 360 version they are not same settings feels different.

Agree 100% mate. I thought it was just me after downloading the US demo last night and the UK version today.

But playing both versions today, the PS3 version is definitely quicker.

[DagsJT]

Hope that gets fixed in the full version then, I prefer to play very slow football if I can.

[jonneymendoza]

damn i really wanted to get this on my PS3 too.
get both

[Chris Davies]

get both
Is this you Jonney?

http://images.inmagine.com/img/brandxpictures/x331/bxp155853.jpg

No wonder you lag, you're 102. It's not the connection, it's you.

[gameklip]

I have both versions of the demo. just playing the PS3 one now.

why is the PS3 one so muggy and muddy compared to the 360 one? wtf?

It even stutters where the 360 vr. was smooth! The clarity has gone too! I'm not even a fanboy, this is just me using my eyes. I have the PS3 hooked up to and HDMI and normally my games like better on it. (Force unleashed for ex.)

gonna test the 360 one again to see if i'm going crazy.

[Jamie LUFC]

Another thing that has impressed me, when taking a goal kick, when the ball has gone out of play, the players aren't automatically put into position like robots, they are seen running away from there last position which is good.

[evacuate]

Apparently all you people who like this demo are wrong:

"It is just the same crap as FIFA has always been...I totaly agree with you Yashot.People who know what real football is play PES... Only kids, people who dont understand football and americans play FIFA!The last version of FIFA that I enjoyed playing was the 99... then I found out about Winning Eleven (PES)! FIFA hasnt changed a thing, same animations, same crappy gameplay... oh, sorry FIFA does change... it changes the soundtrack now and then and the team licenses...It doesnt matter what people and EA say, every year is the same thing, FIFA sucks!One day in the future if FIFA has a gameplay that gets close even to Winning Eleven 4 (of 10 years ago) then I may try taking it serious.words of a brazilian who is crazy about the real football..." - comment on Gametrailers.com

[DagsJT]

:lmao:

[Jamie LUFC]

Apparently all you people who like this demo are wrong:

"It is just the same crap as FIFA has always been...I totaly agree with you Yashot.People who know what real football is play PES... Only kids, people who dont understand football and americans play FIFA!The last version of FIFA that I enjoyed playing was the 99... then I found out about Winning Eleven (PES)! FIFA hasnt changed a thing, same animations, same crappy gameplay... oh, sorry FIFA does change... it changes the soundtrack now and then and the team licenses...It doesnt matter what people and EA say, every year is the same thing, FIFA sucks!One day in the future if FIFA has a gameplay that gets close even to Winning Eleven 4 (of 10 years ago) then I may try taking it serious.words of a brazilian who is crazy about the real football..." - comment on Gametrailers.com

I didn't know Seabass posted on Gametrailers.com

[gameklip]

Jamie: yeh, there are so many improvements over 8. it feels like real footy most of the time. love it.

i'm loving the control more on the PS3 and the visuals more on the 360 at the mo.

:lol: i just did a curved throughball for the first time across both demos on the PS3. the controls are better for me on that platform. :):

[gomito#10]

hahahahahah well i guess americans have good taste afterall!!!

[gameklip]

OMG NO ONE TOLD ME THE PS3 STORES THE WHOLE MATCH IN THE REPLAY? IS THIS A DEMO GLITCH OR WHAT? THAT'S AWESOME!!

whoa!!

[tobi]

There isn't enough individuality amongst the players, certain playrs like Kaka and Ronnie have it but I've tried a few times to run games through Guti and Pirlo and the likeness isn't there.

The most impressive things in the demo are the ball physics (except for FK's on goal) and the through balls. I played a lovely through ball with Sneidjer from a crossing position that Ruud finished off with a first time shot.

Also I had more control over my players when I swtiched to dpad.

[matt1288]

Apparently all you people who like this demo are wrong:

"It is just the same crap as FIFA has always been...I totaly agree with you Yashot.People who know what real football is play PES... Only kids, people who dont understand football and americans play FIFA!The last version of FIFA that I enjoyed playing was the 99... then I found out about Winning Eleven (PES)! FIFA hasnt changed a thing, same animations, same crappy gameplay... oh, sorry FIFA does change... it changes the soundtrack now and then and the team licenses...It doesnt matter what people and EA say, every year is the same thing, FIFA sucks!One day in the future if FIFA has a gameplay that gets close even to Winning Eleven 4 (of 10 years ago) then I may try taking it serious.words of a brazilian who is crazy about the real football..." - comment on Gametrailers.com

Why does it matter if kids or Americans play the game? They are normal people and those are a large amount of buyers.

[miguel.]

I can't stop playing this. The differences between this and FIFA08 are immense, there's really no comparison. Apart from the speed of the game, which is a tad too fast even when played on "slow", everything feels a lot better and realistic.

Off to download the european version of the demo now. :DD

[gameklip]

There isn't enough individuality amongst the players, certain playrs like Kaka and Ronnie have it but I've tried a few times to run games through Guti and Pirlo and the likeness isn't there.

The most impressive things in the demo are the ball physics (except for FK's on goal) and the through balls. I played a lovely through ball with Sneidjer from a crossing position that Ruud finished off with a first time shot.

Also I had more control over my players when I swtiched to dpad.


i find it weird when people say that bout the players. i notice a big difference. Especially during midfield battles. some players can control it, and others it's best to pass it first time. Lampard is for example, good for controlling and 1-2's and one-touch passing around the box.try the same with obi mikel and you'll see lol

i really need to upload that ronny throughball i did just now. it was ouside of the foot curling past a defender and the striker made an "X" run behind the defender. amazing stuff.

[imothop]

can't wait for the full game now. this 2x2 Min. are going to kill me. would almost trade my wife for some kind of demo expander for the PS3 Version. she is lovely! anyone? :D

[Nick Cave]

the thing I noticed most was the heading TBH, it's totally changed...

[Trance_Allstar]

I didn't know Seabass posted on Gametrailers.com


When you look at the original post, a reply like this is actually warranted. Thank you.

[matt1288]

The heading is absolutely amazing, I'm in love with it. I'm also loving the outside shots.

[Jamie LUFC]

Can you imagine how long the game code would be if every single player reacted differently?

I think EA do a bloody wonderful job to even make the most recognisable players feel different.....

People need to look at the bigger picture.

[Nick Cave]

All I want now is improved manager stuff, I know it wont be major and injuries, leg snapping dislocated shoulder type trauma, where your new multi million pound striker gets hacked in your first game and misses the next 4 months...

[Scutch]

Is that true regarding the replays being stored in memory for the entire game length?

Also, why are the controls better on the PS3 over the 360? Merely the controller, or something more sinister (Mwahaha)?

[gameklip]

I can't believe you can replay your whole match from the start in the replay mode of the PS3 version. That's insane. Was that in last years version too?

[Nick Cave]

I can't believe you can replay your whole match from the start in the replay mode of the PS3 version. That's insane. Was that in last years version too?

What I found with 08 was some replays would go back five or six plays before the last one you wanted...

[Scutch]

And this is limited to the PS3, and not the 360? Could someone confirm?

[gameklip]

Is that true regarding the replays being stored in memory for the entire game length?

Also, why are the controls better on the PS3 over the 360? Merely the controller, or something more sinister (Mwahaha)?

Well i only just got the PS3 demo (i'm online right now even going back and forth between 360 and PS3. I promise you it looks better on 360. Dunno why. Maybe the resolution settings?) and I did a curled throughball, went to the replay mode, and just hit rewind all the way expecting it to stop after a sec (like the 360 one) but it kept going on and on, right back till kick off lol.

I hope it's in the final game. I'm betting its a PS3 exclusive feature.


I like the controls better on PS3 and i don't know why. I think the sensitive analogue sticks suit the tricks and the tricky nature you're meant to use them. :)Cause there aren't any notches/groves on the PS3 one i'm doing step-overs easier than ever. Infact first thing i did was beat the gk in the arena with step-overs before a game with Pato in the PS3 version.

I dunno man. Normally i like the 360 controller more.


I promise you guys i'm nt being a fanboy about this. Not sure if anyone else mentioned the differences, but those are the major ones. You can't tell in screenshots off my tv so i'm guessing it's a resolution thing (with the muddy visuals).

[brunnoce]

does anyone knows the new stadiums confirmed for fifa09(360/ps3)?

[TjaardA]

wow i like this game very much!

[Coopz]

Just played a few more game against a mate and every time i was though on goal i could score with a finesse shot across the keeper

im not liking that at all

It wouldn't be so bad if i didn't create chances but the running of the players makes a though ball very very easy for a 1 on 1 with the keeper

[Dusse]

Just played a few more game against a mate and every time i was though on goal i could score with a finesse shot across the keeper

im not liking that at all

It wouldn't be so bad if i didn't create chances but the running of the players makes a though ball very very easy for a 1 on 1 with the keeper

I would guess that you use semi or assisted shooting then?

[Chris Davies]

What's weird is that I was getting annoyed last night with finesse shots being saved in one-on-ones every single time.

But I am rubbish at the game. :)

[Coopz]

i didn't change it so it must be assisted, ill have to knock it down to semi and try it

That's not hiding the fact how easy it will be in 10 vs 10 for others though, or maybe its a demo thing to make the game more enjoyable in a short space of time

[Bobo21]

First off I am neither pro-FIFA or pro-Evo, having played both over the past 10 years or so depending simply on which game I preferred that year. That said can someone PLEASE explain to me this insistence that in PES you "feel" the individuality of players whereas in FIFA you don't - it honestly makes no sense and seems to be just a nonsensical argument someone made up a while back and has just been blindly accepted.
I posted this several months ago in the PES09 forum and got no reply (other than Placebo agreeing with me):

Seriously I don't get this - other than superior pace and/or unique special skills how do you 'have' the individuality of players?? All that the programmers can do is give them numerical coding in the different categories of ratings and make different players better at doing different things, not as if they can inject a persona into polygons.
Of course you can make them look very similar to their real life counterparts in physical attributes but what is this individuality of which you speak? And please don't respond that 'you can just FEEL the difference in PES' - elaborate on what exactly it is that you're feeling - other then a player having a higher rating and being able to shoot, pass, dribble, run, man-mark, tackle or do skills well, what gives them this 'individuality'?
I think this might simply exist in your mind cuz programming is just numbers and characters plain and simple. Seriously, what can you expect out of a computer generated player other than to have a higher rating in their stats?? They can't actually have character or personality - they're just a bunch of pixels.
I've played PES for years and seems to me that players all pretty much do everything the same within their ranking sector but maybe I'm just not seeing it.

[Coopz]

What's weird is that I was getting annoyed last night with finesse shots being saved in one-on-ones every single time.

But I am rubbish at the game. :)

I just position the player so he opens his body up

so your kinda diagonal before hitting it

[Chris Davies]

First off I am neither pro-FIFA or pro-Evo, having played both over the past 10 years or so depending simply on which game I preferred that year. That said can someone PLEASE explain to me this insistence that in PES you "feel" the individuality of players whereas in FIFA you don't - it honestly makes no sense and seems to be just a nonsensical argument someone made up a while back and has just been blindly accepted.
I posted this several months ago in the PES09 forum and got no reply (other than Placebo agreeing with me):

Seriously I don't get this - other than superior pace and/or unique special skills how do you 'have' the individuality of players?? All that the programmers can do is give them numerical coding in the different categories of ratings and make different players better at doing different things, not as if they can inject a persona into polygons.
Of course you can make them look very similar to their real life counterparts in physical attributes but what is this individuality of which you speak? And please don't respond that 'you can just FEEL the difference in PES' - elaborate on what exactly it is that you're feeling - other then a player having a higher rating and being able to shoot, pass, dribble, run, man-mark, tackle or do skills well, what gives them this 'individuality'?
I think this might simply exist in your mind cuz programming is just numbers and characters plain and simple. Seriously, what can you expect out of a computer generated player other than to have a higher rating in their stats?? They can't actually have character or personality - they're just a bunch of pixels.
I've played PES for years and seems to me that players all pretty much do everything the same within their ranking sector but maybe I'm just not seeing it.
I think that's a very good post, and I agree with you practically 100%. But saying that, the place you notice it most is in the career modes.

In PES's Master League, if I buy a new player, you do get a "feel" for him straight away. But I think this might be because the difference is exaggerated; he will be a lot faster or a lot slower, he will "get away" with certain dribbling movements more than others and beat more men (purely because the CPU cheats less when they have to deal with a better player - the harder AI difficulties only deals with you by making your players less responsive, rather than its own players more intelligent), his shots won't balloon over the bar as often (which pisses me off with PES6 and beyond, tap the shoot button with nobody around you and the ball will blast over the bar for no apparent reason) etc...

Whereas in FIFA, especially at a lower-league level, you feel like you may as well not buy replacements unless their skill level is 10 points higher overall at least. Because their speed and the AI interaction with them will be the same. And I think this also leads to the issue people have where playing Man Utd or Toronto FC is exactly the same - I can see where they're coming from, although I've felt it improve a lot more in this demo. Even saying that, it's not that different from PES. I will be pushed to the max playing Man Utd but my last PES2008 on PSP game with them finished 5-5, whereas playing Fulham is a bit easier (last result 2-1 to me). Not hugely different, especially on the hardest difficulty.

[Coopz]

Fast and slow is the only difference in PES between players apart from finishing and heading when your in on goal

Thats why people used to play Carlos up front, so i would like to see what people mean about PES had the individuality of players as well

[brunnoce]

no info on fifa's new stadiums? im really curious about it.

[Blaccat]

I can't believe you can replay your whole match from the start in the replay mode of the PS3 version. That's insane. Was that in last years version too?
On 08 if there are no subs u can

[JayD]

i didn't change it so it must be assisted, ill have to knock it down to semi and try it

That's not hiding the fact how easy it will be in 10 vs 10 for others though, or maybe its a demo thing to make the game more enjoyable in a short space of time

Yes coopz change the passing and shooting to at least semi and it's a completly different game.

[tobi]

In ISS when I'm playing with Milan or Italy I usually play the game through Pirlo, when he is on the ball you instanly know because of the way he slows the game down and because of how he passes the ball. The way he moves, the way he forces you to play differently when he is in possesion, its these small things that do it for me.

Deco is another player who is in the same mould, in ISS he doesn't roll the ball under his foot like he does in real life but when your passing and shooting with him you get that feeling and you think to yourself "I'm controlling Deco here and not Xavi, I can feel the difference in my fingers".

In the Fifa demo Guti feels exactly the same as Diarra, both are completly different players yet you dont feel it. When Kaka and Ronaldhino are the ball you can feel it because they move differently to the rest.

its hard to explain.

[winston]

Fast and slow is the only difference in PES between players apart from finishing and heading when your in on goal

Thats why people used to play Carlos up front, so i would like to see what people mean about PES had the individuality of players as well


Agility, dribbling, balance, shot power and accuracy were also definitely distinguishable from player to player. I think a lot of the other attributes did play a part, but were more subtle.

I made up a Scotland legends team in PES3 or thereabouts and by exaggerating the key attributes of certain players (eg. Joe Jordan, big, powerful, great header....Gordon Strachan, small, skilful, good acceleration....Mo Johnston, lethal finisher, etc), every player felt very distinctive and I felt very happy to play with this team filled with personality. The PES editor was excellent for manipulating stats and also players' appearance.

That said, the vast majority of players in PES were generic with made up stats, so were barely more distinctive than they are in FIFA.

If FIFA had the same editing options as PES, I think we'd be able to create very distinctive players. Ronaldinho feels very different to others, likewise Drogba...proof that it's already in the game.

[brunnoce]

Fast and slow is the only difference in PES between players apart from finishing and heading when your in on goal

Thats why people used to play Carlos up front, so i would like to see what people mean about PES had the individuality of players as well

i do see a lot of diference between passes and long passes too..acurancy wise and speed too.
thats something ull only notice if u play it for a considerable amount of time the game, same goes for fifa...
if u dont play it a lot ull only notice speed and drible ability difernce.

in pes u can notice balance, speed and drible if u dont play it a lot.
But than u start noticing more diferences and after u got used to the game ull evan notice diferent ways of positioning(due to ofense and defense stats)and how the mentality and teamwork stat affects players.

[winston]

Game speed:

I've only played it on SLOW from my first match so don't know how fast NORMAL or FAST are, but I find that SLOW is absolutely as fast as I would want it.

I'd like to think that they change this so that what is currently SLOW becomes NORMAL and they create a new SLOW which is about 10% slower.

[dcherry]

I am a hardcore PES fan, but I have to say I enjoyed the FIFA 09 demo.

Obviously it feels really different to Pro Evo. But customizing the controls to fit the PES scheme helped a lot. And while it may not feel as natural to me as PES does, I think the actual gameplay is realistic.

I blocked a penalty and scored on a quick counter attack and it was very satisfying.

It looks like I'll be buying both for the first time and we'll see what I play more.

[h3li0]

I think that's a very good post, and I agree with you practically 100%. But saying that, the place you notice it most is in the career modes.

In PES's Master League, if I buy a new player, you do get a "feel" for him straight away. But I think this might be because the difference is exaggerated; he will be a lot faster or a lot slower, he will "get away" with certain dribbling movements more than others and beat more men (purely because the CPU cheats less when they have to deal with a better player - the harder AI difficulties only deals with you by making your players less responsive, rather than its own players more intelligent), his shots won't balloon over the bar as often (which pisses me off with PES6 and beyond, tap the shoot button with nobody around you and the ball will blast over the bar for no apparent reason) etc...

Whereas in FIFA, especially at a lower-league level, you feel like you may as well not buy replacements unless their skill level is 10 points higher overall at least. Because their speed and the AI interaction with them will be the same. And I think this also leads to the issue people have where playing Man Utd or Toronto FC is exactly the same - I can see where they're coming from, although I've felt it improve a lot more in this demo. Even saying that, it's not that different from PES. I will be pushed to the max playing Man Utd but my last PES2008 on PSP game with them finished 5-5, whereas playing Fulham is a bit easier (last result 2-1 to me). Not hugely different, especially on the hardest difficulty.

In my opinion what i think people meant when they say that is, the feeling that you have when for an example you control Drogba in PES is hard to take the ball out of him, not because of the speed but because of the balance that he have. When controlling Messi is the same you can turn fast, and not just for the speed, because with wright philips you can run fast but the turning sucks, and in the past FIFAS the problem is that you just feel diferences in run and streght of players, of course there´s the pass and shooting skill that afects all players as well. In previous PES you with Gerrard or Lampard can make amazing passes but if you try with a player less effective on passing you cannot do that.

I think the whole question in here is that the player attributes have a greater feeling and impact in PES than in FIFA

But yes in PES 2008 the speed and balance is all that count because with etoo messi ronaldo and ronaldinho you do whatever you want, but in previous PES the feeling is other, so lets see this PES 2009

But i´ve been playing this Fifa 09 for many games and i think that this feeling is in this game to now, in example with chelsea if you are with joe cole against a tough defender like heinze is difficult to pass just running, you have to drible around them.

But FIFA 09 steel lack sometimes in responsiveness, maybe because of the difficult in 360 controllers like someone said back there.

[unbornchikkenvoices]

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[unbornchikkenvoices]

Fast and slow is the only difference in PES between players apart from finishing and heading when your in on goal

Thats why people used to play Carlos up front, so i would like to see what people mean about PES had the individuality of players as well

I also remember reading something a few years ago about PES that if you have a player with high technique and passing such as Zidane in the older games,

other players would make better runs, so finding a player with Zidane, Pirlo etc would be easier. I always thought this was a good way of implimenting the qualities of a highly technical player.

In real life a player would possibly make more runs if a Pirlo type player was on the ball, as they know that Pirlo has a good chance of spotting and finding them.


This differance in technical ability of each player has still not been replicated in FIFA

[airjoca]

No offside track in quick tactics, thats just stupid

Hopefully in the full game

Yes, it is. Press Up Up on the D-pad.

[fernadez]

Anyone else noticed this on the PS3 version? The ref will play advantage and then bring the play back for a free kick no matter what happens, few times i've run through and the free kicks been given on the half way line.

[gameklip]

omg, Pirlo just did a stooping header to run onto and control a loose ball, and then passed it. that's definitely another new animation found.

man i wish the replays were longer on xbox360. some amazing moves being missed.

[fernadez]

He just did the same to the cpu as well, brought it back for no reason

[Trance_Allstar]

First off I am neither pro-FIFA or pro-Evo, having played both over the past 10 years or so depending simply on which game I preferred that year. That said can someone PLEASE explain to me this insistence that in PES you "feel" the individuality of players whereas in FIFA you don't - it honestly makes no sense and seems to be just a nonsensical argument someone made up a while back and has just been blindly accepted.
I posted this several months ago in the PES09 forum and got no reply (other than Placebo agreeing with me):

Seriously I don't get this - other than superior pace and/or unique special skills how do you 'have' the individuality of players?? All that the programmers can do is give them numerical coding in the different categories of ratings and make different players better at doing different things, not as if they can inject a persona into polygons.
Of course you can make them look very similar to their real life counterparts in physical attributes but what is this individuality of which you speak? And please don't respond that 'you can just FEEL the difference in PES' - elaborate on what exactly it is that you're feeling - other then a player having a higher rating and being able to shoot, pass, dribble, run, man-mark, tackle or do skills well, what gives them this 'individuality'?
I think this might simply exist in your mind cuz programming is just numbers and characters plain and simple. Seriously, what can you expect out of a computer generated player other than to have a higher rating in their stats?? They can't actually have character or personality - they're just a bunch of pixels.
I've played PES for years and seems to me that players all pretty much do everything the same within their ranking sector but maybe I'm just not seeing it.



Well, PES made a habit of exaggerating the differences between players. Particularly the Agility and Response parameters. World-Class players could turn on a dime, superhumanly so.
Also, the way they could maintain speed through some types of moves was superhuman, aswell as their ability to change direction without having to actually stop themselves properly. It was like they had half the mass of a person, they could stop themselves and start sprinting in another direction too fast.


And, from what I've seen of 09 and also 08, the main thing the FIFA guys need to rework is the trapping. Even crap players can trap impossible balls, and they can do it at impossible angles. And they also do it seemingly perfectly composed aswell.
Once they get that reworked, the differences will be felt the moment you receive a ball with a lesser player, since he will trap it slower, be less precise in the direction he traps it, and not keep the ball as close to his body, meaning he will need more open space to be able to do it without fear of an opponent getting to the ball.

Basically, they need to make a system similar to PES5. PES5 was awesome when it came to the differences between players with regards to trapping. When you had a bad player, you just disliked passing to them since you knew they'd miss the trap and have to chase the ball down after it bounced off their boot or such.


So basically, PES exaggerates the best players too much, while FIFA could do with making the less skilled players worse in some aspects.


Game speed:

I've only played it on SLOW from my first match so don't know how fast NORMAL or FAST are, but I find that SLOW is absolutely as fast as I would want it.

I'd like to think that they change this so that what is currently SLOW becomes NORMAL and they create a new SLOW which is about 10% slower.

I agree, from what I've seen, it would be great if they slowed it down slightly more. Perhaps they are a bit worried the responsiveness will take an additional hit if they lower it too much?

[gameklip]

Pato just did a no-look 1-touch lay-ff to dinho. It looked sick!

[Rob92]

I love the way the collision system affects the aerial challenges, you have to really fight for your position with the opponent, with the stronger players being able to muscle defenders away so they can head it and the bigger players towering over the smaller players. The collision system isn't just cosmetic though as I thought it may be, it actually makes a big difference to the gameplay. You really feel the difference between going up for a challenge with Drogba and, let's say, Ronaldinho or Robben.

That leads onto another thing I love about the game, the headers at goal - You really have to aim your crosses accurately in front of of your player so that your players' momentum takes them onto the ball, you really can power in headers, it wasn't possible in 08. The AI also adds to this as when you play as Chelsea, Ballack (who is very strong in the air) often makes late runs into the box at speed which means he is very effective at powering in headed goals, like he is in real life.

The shooting is much improved also, well struck shots really feel powerful, meaning you can hit the sort of shots which rise and rise until they go in, they look great and were not possible on 08. The penalties are also much better this time around - no more shuffling across the goal line to stop pens and no more easy to hit unsaveable top corner penalties (meaning that aiming for the corners with power is a risk now), the camera angle is also much better on pens.

Animations - just great, they look realistic and they flow seamlessly, it's the best animated football game ever, and one of the best animated sports games ever. Not much else can be said about them really, they are just great.

Keepers - Probably the best improvement along with animations, they have "humanised" (is that a word?) them - they no longer save unstoppable shots and let in silly rolling shots at the near post, they actually act in a realistic manner is most cases, charging out in 1 on 1s, punching the ball on crosses/corners when there is pressure etc. On 08 they were terrible at their near post and too good at their far post, this is no longer the case and leads to much more thought going into which corner you aim for.

Responsiveness - It's sorted, not sluggish at all. The responses are slower while sprinting but that is good, it forces people into playing a more realistic style instead of holding sprint all game.

Graphics - Not hugely different from 08 but the player models look a lot better and the lighting seems a bit better and the faces look much better.

Onto negatives:

Assisted controls are too easy as usual - finesse shots into the far corner while 1 on 1 with assisted shooting is always a goal. Doesn't really bother me most of the time as I use semi/manual controls but it could affect 10v10. The passing is also too simple - just pick a recipient and press the button = perfect pass to feet.

Normal speed is a bit too fast - Slow seems realistic though, but as Normal is the default online setting, then it may affect 10v10. It's not arcadey fast, just slightly faster than realistic.

Free kick ball physics - While I think they underdid the dip and swerve you could get on set pieces on 08, I think they have exaggerated them here. No game breaker for me and I am confident that it will be sorted by release.

The demo is only 2 mins long!!!! :MAD:

[gameklip]

nice impressions btw guys. i just love the game. so many little things to notice. kaka shot and just missed and pato clapped him and offered words of encouragement. all in realtime after the shot.

[Nick Cave]

I hated the FK's on 08, they should be more of a weapon so I hope they don't tweak them too much...

[Ferraritim]

People are complaining about 1 on 1 situation. But it should be a goal most of the time. Why would it be a problem in 10 vs 10? Just defend so that the opponents never create a 1 on 1.

[Nick Cave]

People are complaining about 1 on 1 situation. But it should be a goal most of the time. Why would it be a problem in 10 vs 10? Just defend so that the opponents never create a 1 on 1.
I think it was only with assisted settings though...

[Coopz]

Yeah thats a good point

if people are controlling the whole back line they should be defending deep enough to stop them going through 1 on 1

Also has anyone scored from a layed off free kick yet?

If you didn't know you hold the skill but ala PES to tee it off

[Oli]

Yeah thats a good point

if people are controlling the whole back line they should be defending deep enough to stop them going through 1 on 1

Also has anyone scored from a layed off free kick yet?

If you didn't know you hold the skill but ala PES to tee it off

So skill button and pass lays it off?

[Rob92]

People are complaining about 1 on 1 situation. But it should be a goal most of the time. Why would it be a problem in 10 vs 10? Just defend so that the opponents never create a 1 on 1.I agree about defending them, but against a top keeper like Casillas or Cech I think you should have to put in a bit of effort to beat them.

[Ferraritim]

I agree about defending them, but against a top keeper like Casillas or Cech I think you should have to put in a bit of effort to beat them.

True, but this is so much better than Euro 2008 where it was almost impossible to score in 1 on 1 going straight at the keeper.

It's not perfect this way, but I can live with the fact that you get punished online if you give away a 1 on 1.

[gameklip]

i'm still shit at 1on1's :(

i'm more of a midfielder. i can't wait to show you the goal i scored by opening up marseille. :lol:

[DaWu]

I am missing the names above the player heads. will those be in the full game?

further I am really dissapointed in the ps3 graphics. its so blurry that I feel like I need some glasses. gotta try it in 720p. maybe it will look less blury on this resolution.

and one last question. is there any difference in the us and eu demo?

everything else is perfect so far. gameplay is awesome. ai is awesome (no circus circles) and I am getting fouled finally!

[Bingham67]

Havnt really seen any long range crackers from quick browse of youtube have to say expected more of them popping up with new shooting physics.

Im debating on button press think its way to sensitive in Fifa 08 and Euro the physics were floaty but the button press were perfect. Now it feels the complete flip opposite with button press and this on Semi same as i did with Fifa 08 it seems now you have to pretty much tap it or shot going to go over. Dosnt seem to be total control over the power you want to put on but then i see few have complained here so cant be just me.

Although saying this playing PS3 demo i felt more at home as played Fifa 08 and Euro so maybe its adapting back to controller. I would play PS3 demo but the speed issue and blockyness are rather off putting 360 version smooth as silk and speed much more at level it should be.

[rickyricc]

To me the graphics seem lovely on the PS3 in 720.. I've got a new TV coming on Monday, going from 20" to a 32" so im expecting it to look even better! But i dont have a 360 so i can't compare but as long as it looks good im not really bothered which one look's better..
When u watch an instant replay, just check out the grass for a few seconds, it looks unbelievable.. At one point i zoomed right into the feet of ballack and i seriously thought it looked like a life like picture, absolutely gorgeous! =)

[Sugarray]

Why? Why? Why? EA I hate you! Why did you do it? What I'm playing now until the final version? I just loved the demo! Just PERFECT! Unable to play another game of football now ...

[gameklip]

I am missing the names above the player heads. will those be in the full game?

further I am really disappointed in the ps3 graphics. its so blurry that I feel like I need some glasses. gotta try it in 720p. maybe it will look less blury on this resolution.

and one last question. is there any difference in the us and eu demo?

everything else is perfect so far. gameplay is awesome. ai is awesome (no circus circles) and I am getting fouled finally!

so i'm not the only one. the PS3 version is so blurry when playing the 360 version. gonna put it on 720p too in sec to see if it makes a difference...

i could swear the PS3 version is easier too. on hard i'm tearing Marseilles apart with AC on the PS3 but on the same setting on 360 i'm laboring a win... weird.

maybe it is as i said before, that i prefer the DS3 controller. But again, that would be strange cause i played all of Fifa08 on the 360 controller and normally find my DS3 controller uncomfortable for sports games.

the game is indeed awesome though. if you were good @ fifa08, fifa09 will treat you kindly. my main problem is pressing the buttons to stretch and reach the ball cause before that would be a foul! heh

[Blaccat]

When u go to the PSN store to download the Demo, in the descriptions it say 720p

[baisti]

I played the first game with chelsea and after 10 min i got a free kick the first in my fifa 09 demo career and its in by drogba ;-)

[pbchillin]

A little analysis after a few hours play:

+ Player faces and body shapes look much better
+ Very much liking the quicker turning and response of players
+ Shooting is much better, now able to pull off some proper long range shots.
+ Penalties also feel much better
+ Goal nets look very nice
+ Crowd chanting, not to mention when you can hear the odd "Take him off!" when you give away the ball!
+ Free kicks are good, pulled off a beauty with Drogba, was almost identical to the one he scored away to Paris St Germain in the Champions League Group Stages a few years ago.

- Refs seem a bit card happy.
- The advantage rule implementation is a tad suspect, as some AI players go a bit weird when they have an advantage.
- AI Players seem to loose their bearings occasionally when near the touchline.
- AI also reluctant to shoot when clean through on goal.

This is just a quick write up, nothing major, and overall, very enjoyable, PES will have to do well to get my money this year.

[Bingham67]

so i'm not the only one. the PS3 version is so blurry when playing the 360 version. gonna put it on 720p too in sec to see if it makes a difference...

i could swear the PS3 version is easier too. on hard i'm tearing Marseilles apart with AC on the PS3 but on the same setting on 360 i'm laboring a win... weird.

maybe it is as i said before, that i prefer the DS3 controller. But again, that would be strange cause i played all of Fifa08 on the 360 controller and normally find my DS3 controller uncomfortable for sports games.

the game is indeed awesome though. if you were good @ fifa08, fifa09 will treat you kindly. my main problem is pressing the buttons to stretch and reach the ball cause before that would be a foul! heh

As i said earlier your finding it easy to score as the speed of game not same as 360 version on slow and normal.

In turn feels PS3 version has better response but im not sure might be down to speed i prefer 360 version if wasnt for speed i would prefer PS3 version i think.

[gameklip]

I think you're right Bingham. It becomes the same when you play the 360 version on FAST. Weird... I thought they would have made NORMAL the default for PS3...

yup. PS3's default is on FAST.

They both play exactly the same that way.

lol mystery solved.

[airjoca]

Finally, I did the "double rabona". :)
YouTube - FIFA09 Demo Skills Double Rabona (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0OtzjYoTY4)

[Dazfeeder]

I love the demo, I prefer the 360 version tho, just because of the controller, the truggers on the ps3 controller are a joke when playing football games, had a game of 08 earlier and it seems so bad even tho its not, played pes 2008 again and its an absolute bag of wank

[Bingham67]

I think you're right Bingham. It becomes the same when you play the 360 version on FAST. Weird... I thought they would have made NORMAL the default for PS3...

yup. PS3's default is on FAST.

They both play exactly the same that way.

lol mystery solved.

PS3 default game speed fast ? not on mine its normal.

Its still not problem solved because Slow and Normal feel different to 360 version touch more speed.

[Dazfeeder]

Finally, I did the "double rabona". :)
YouTube - FIFA09 Demo Skills Double Rabona (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0OtzjYoTY4)

cheers buddy, i will try to do it, sounds hard as fuck tho lol

[WILDSTER180774]

YouTube - fifa09 demo overhead kick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFWVPl117rs)
check this goal out

[Dazfeeder]

great stuff mate, shame you didnt score it but still great anyway

[kobashi]

YouTube - fifa09 demo overhead kick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFWVPl117rs)
check this goal out

sickness

[gameklip]

:lol: well that should address the AI" question.

how did you do that double rabona? is there a place where all the tricks are listed?

edit: nevermind i opened the youtube page.

[chriscrocker]

Why can't you change controls even though the menu option is there?

I want to reconfigure sprint to R1 and Finesse to R2 like Pro Evo, it's really bugging me.

[airjoca]

Why can't you change controls even though the menu option is there?

I want to reconfigure sprint to R1 and Finesse to R2 like Pro Evo, it's really bugging me.

You have to do it at the beggining of the demo, when they ask you how you want to control the game...

Just scored my quickest goal yet: :)
YouTube - FIFA09 Demo Quick Goal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-ee0CFJgR8)

[BobbyBox]

Why can't you change controls even though the menu option is there?

I want to reconfigure sprint to R1 and Finesse to R2 like Pro Evo, it's really bugging me.

You can do it in game if you pause the game and go to controls - you change the buttons by pressing A over the button you want to change then going to the button you want to change it to and press A again. It then swas them over :DD

[Dazfeeder]

you can change it in game aswell

[stuartyd]

I've just had the PS3 and the xbox 360 running this game at the same time and thee graphics on the 360 are noticeably crisper/clearer. . I was practicing pens in the arena on both consoles and I reckon the nets on the PS3 version are looser than the 360 ones especially when the ball hits the side netting. anyone else noticed this?

[jflores]

I've just had the PS3 and the xbox 360 running this game at the same time and thee graphics on the 360 are noticeably crisper/clearer. . I was practicing pens in the arena on both consoles and I reckon the nets on the PS3 version are looser than the 360 ones especially when the ball hits the side netting. anyone else noticed this?

Wow! that's weird. Are you playing the PS3 version on 720p?

[Blaccat]

The animation blending is crazy, i have got a clip with nesta stumbling over balance but he still manages to heads the ball way toward a team mate. I thought Drogba was going to race off with the ball with my defense wild out.

Panic defense>>>>>>>>>>

[DagsJT]

:lmao: Toronto getting beat 1-0, they get a corner in the 90th and their goalie comes up for the corner!

And what was even funnier, he won the header and just skimmed the post! :LOL:

Really can't wait for the full game :DD

And then when I take the goalkick, their goalie is on the halfway line sprinting back to his goal still :LOL:

Brilliant.

[Blaccat]

:lmao: Toronto getting beat 1-0, they get a corner in the 90th and their goalie comes up for the corner!

And what was even funnier, he won the header and just skimmed the post! :LOL:

Really can't wait for the full game :DD
Damn!

I shall set that up just to see it

[SandTheMan]

Playing the PS3, and even on slow, i think its to fast.
How do you change to 720p?

[Rob92]

The way the AI keeps the ball well at the end when they are winning is frustrating, but I like it because it's realistic.

I also had the AI score an overhead kick against me, not as good as that one just posted but still surprised me when it went in.

[Blaccat]

Watch as him moves his neck towards the ball

YouTube - Example of Fifa09's "Panic Defense" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJvjVrChIjE)

[Blaccat]

The way the AI keeps the ball well at the end when they are winning is frustrating, but I like it because it's realistic.

I also had the AI score an overhead kick against me, not as good as that one just posted but still surprised me when it went in.
OMDZ!!!

I conceded an own goal to Toronto, when it was about the 80th min these fools kept the ball close to the corner flag in MY own half. I couldnt get the ball off them, i almost freaked out

[DagsJT]

OMDZ!!!

I concede an own goal to Toronto, when it was about the 80th min this fools kept the ball at the close corner flag in MY own half. I couldnt get the ball of them, i almost freaked out

:EASY:

[chriscrocker]

I still cant seem to change controls :S

Game is immense. Still seeing "jaw dropping" moments in each game!

[BobbyBox]

I still cant seem to change controls :S

Game is immense. Still seeing "jaw dropping" moments in each game!

go into controller configurations - when you pause during a game. Then you can scroll down to each button and click on them to change them over.

[Blaccat]

I still cant seem to change controls :S

Game is immense. Still seeing "jaw dropping" moments in each game!
Pause in-game => Controls => Controller Configuration

[gameklip]

I've just had the PS3 and the xbox 360 running this game at the same time and thee graphics on the 360 are noticeably crisper/clearer. . I was practicing pens in the arena on both consoles and I reckon the nets on the PS3 version are looser than the 360 ones especially when the ball hits the side netting. anyone else noticed this?

same here. but as i say the game plays faster on PS3. plays more like how you'd imagine a FIFA'd Pro Evo if that makes sense. Lightening controls etc. I kinda like it. I't definitely not the same game/build as 360. i find it way easier scoring in the PS3 demo.

just changing to 720p now. hope that sorts everything out.

[evacuate]

Pretty good collision system, not scripted like in PES:
YouTube - FIFA 09 Nutmeg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9gnpa0cHjQ)

[airjoca]

In and out:

YouTube - FIFA09 Demo Goal in and out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua6GznTXgr8)

[Placebo]

Not sure if I've ever seen that before in a game, very nice indeed, let's hope that 1 time out of a 100 the ref and linesmen will miss it and not give the goal, a la Mendes for Tottenham v Man Utd wasn't it? :)

[matherto]

Well, I've played the demo when I can due to having lots on at the minute.

It's lovely isn't it?

Sometimes the pace is a bit too much, a bit PES-like, but it sort of adds to the balance. It's not perfect, but those manic moments are quite nice after the extremely slow bits of 08.

Love the shooting, really so much improved after last year. That was my one major negative with 08.

[sweetkilla]

I am loving the demo but frustrated at how much harder it is vs cpu to break through than whene I was playing randomers at leipzig! feels so much worse really and far less enjoyable for me (in an attacking sense)

[DagsJT]

I am loving the demo but frustrated at how much harder it is vs cpu to break through than whene I was playing randomers at leipzig! feels so much worse really and far less enjoyable for me (in an attacking sense)

You're frustrated because you can't get your own way like you did in Leipzig?

[sweetkilla]

No as in for example when I am on a break way for example I just feel far less unable to gain that extra yard on the defender or fool them with 1-2's etc they are just not prone to error I know I am playing on world class and the other difficulties would be easier but thats no fun when its too easy either.

Yes I am not getting my own way but my point is vs some of the best players in fifa 08 I could get my own way and win 3-1 etc but when I play the cpu I get hugely frustrated at how the game works so differently

[airjoca]

I'm sick and tired of penalty shootouts... :(

[Bingham67]

I am loving the demo but frustrated at how much harder it is vs cpu to break through than whene I was playing randomers at leipzig! feels so much worse really and far less enjoyable for me (in an attacking sense)

PS3 or 360 version and what version at Leipzig was PS3 wasnt it. ?

I have had quite alot chances against AI on world class more then Fifa 08 on there Toronto would be super human on world class and above not case this time. Also passing is much crisper when AI Madrid then Toronto you can see gulf in class much more also.

I think PS3 version speed setting dont work glitched or something pace of game so different to 360. Its like the game speed setting stuck to fast but even then dosnt remind me of brief spell i had on fast on 360.

[Kallinn]

Is anyone who can tell me where i can download it from the internet? I'm stuck in 1% by downloading from PS Store.

[sweetkilla]

I am on the 360 version now but was on the PS3 version at Leipzig have to say I preffered my experience vs cpu on the ps3 but it could be with the length of the games :)

[stuartyd]

Wow! that's weird. Are you playing the PS3 version on 720p?

Just tried the PS3 on 720 and no difference. I even asked the good lady to look at both and she said exactly the same, the xbox graphics are far crisper/sharper and more detailed.
Shame really, i wanted them to be the same or even PS3 better coz my mates who play FIFA have all got playstations. I'm more of an xbox man myself but was willing to dust off the shiney black machine to play the lads online.

OMG NO ONE TOLD ME THE PS3 STORES THE WHOLE MATCH IN THE REPLAY? IS THIS A DEMO GLITCH OR WHAT? THAT'S AWESOME!!

I can confirm this too. Hope this is in the 360 version on release, it's a really nice touch, replays have never been long enough IMO. this feature will do until they introduce a "Halo Theater" type feature. I can only pray[-o<

[Bingham67]

I am on the 360 version now but was on the PS3 version at Leipzig have to say I preffered my experience vs cpu on the ps3 but it could be with the length of the games :)

Probs explains it on PS3 version the speed up i was breaking on world class earlier few times i prefer 360 version speed wise myself though.

You get more chances to score then previous game on World Class the AI feels more human then ever been aswell it not perfect but its good. Only problem for me is taking them chances and thats what making game head to pens i scored alot but go for side foot sometimes and come off post annoyed with myself because should of put it into corner gone for spectacular instead of simple.

Edit: In full game wont feel so bad due to time so going to get even more chances.

[sweetkilla]

I'm sick and tired of penalty shootouts... :(

yeah I have had about 30 lol i just miss all of mine now...

[Placebo]

I'm sick and tired of penalty shootouts... :(

Me too, I just let my keeper score an own goal at 85+ mins :)

[sweetkilla]

Me too, I just let my keeper score an own goal at 85+ mins :)

even better lol I should do this instead

[Kallinn]

Is anyone who can tell me where i can download it from the internet? I'm stuck in 1% by downloading from PS Store.

Please guys, i need this. :))

[stuartyd]

I always used controller setting New Alternate on 08, but a couple of the buttons are different in New Alternate on 09. the LT & LB buttons seem to be switched. I always used to hold down LB for trick moves but now its LT.

Just noticed something else I love. You can actually get the keeper to get up off his fat arse and run with the ball in his hands and throw it out quickly. Dunno how many times in 08 i was losing near the end and the keeper was lying back smoking his pipe, soaking up the rays as I battered the pass button continuously

[gameklip]

:lol: yeh, the keepers have been improved so much. my keeper save a shot going top hand with finger tips. the ball barely cleared the bar. i even said "ooo". heh

the throw outs are insane. so quick and some are thrown off the floor to get too you. brilliant.

[reddevils]

No as in for example when I am on a break way for example I just feel far less unable to gain that extra yard on the defender or fool them with 1-2's etc they are just not prone to error I know I am playing on world class and the other difficulties would be easier but thats no fun when its too easy either.

Yes I am not getting my own way but my point is vs some of the best players in fifa 08 I could get my own way and win 3-1 etc but when I play the cpu I get hugely frustrated at how the game works so differently

instead of picking expert when the demo starts pick the middle one, makes the difficulty Professional...you may enjoy that more

had some cracking matches (well....for a 4 minute match :| ) on professional

[reddevils]

i have a question, on the PS3 version the nets seem ALOT better (it is on a different stadum)

am i right in thinking that every stadium has different net physics? in which case the 360 version should have stadiums with those net physics

because the PS3 demo's net physics are magnificent

[sweetkilla]

yes every stadium the nets have different physics

[evacuate]

I'm pretty sure I've read that they have tweaked the nets a little bit different depending on what stadium your in.

Edit: to late.

[airjoca]

Me too, I just let my keeper score an own goal at 85+ mins :)

I started doing this as well... :lol:

[reddevils]

nice one :)

i dont know why they didnt just use the net physics from the PS3 demo on every stadium because those are near perfect. the nets in Wembley isnt that great

[Coopz]

I tell you now if you aint got Fifa on semi everything then your missing out on a cracking game of footy

Played alot of game tonight with mates and i have seen the best football played and best goals scored ever in a football game

In one Cisse right of goal 12 yards out you think hes gonna square it for a possible tap-in and he hits the sweetest outside of the right foot shot i have ever seen

another time my mate beats the keeper and is ready to pull the trigger and out of nowhere a defender comes across and takes the man and the ball and prevents a certain goal

What a game, oh yeah the headers as well stunning, no longer scripted and you have to fight for everyone at times even missing them or them skimming off the top of your head

Awesome

[brunnoce]

same here. but as i say the game plays faster on PS3. plays more like how you'd imagine a FIFA'd Pro Evo if that makes sense. Lightening controls etc. I kinda like it. I't definitely not the same game/build as 360. i find it way easier scoring in the PS3 demo.

just changing to 720p now. hope that sorts everything out.

it worked for me...
i had on 1080p(false, upscaled) and the game was all blurry...
now on 720p everything is crisp again!!
thank good!
looks great!

EA evan gave the ps3 version 3d grass this time

[imothop]

... or them skimming off the top of your head

Awesome

yeah, i was shocked the first time it happen to me. :LOL: you really need a good timing now for a perfect header. love it!

[kobashi]

I tell you now if you aint got Fifa on semi everything then your missing out on a cracking game of footy

Played alot of game tonight with mates and i have seen the best football played and best goals scored ever in a football game

In one Cisse right of goal 12 yards out you think hes gonna square it for a possible tap-in and he hits the sweetest outside of the right foot shot i have ever seen

another time my mate beats the keeper and is ready to pull the trigger and out of nowhere a defender comes across and takes the man and the ball and prevents a certain goal

What a game, oh yeah the headers as well stunning, no longer scripted and you have to fight for everyone at times even missing them or them skimming off the top of your head

Awesome

My friend has the demo and I'm trying to convince him that he has to play at least with semi on to see the real quality with this. His playing with full assist but his an original pro evo guy. He likes the demo though and is well impressed.

[Coopz]

Trust me the game comes into its own when the pin point passes and shots are not on

Like i said before with auto every on every 1 on 1 i scored now im struggling to hit the target and when i do its awesome same for passed no more pin point and and alot more stray and awesome passes when you get it right

[jonneymendoza]

Trust me the game comes into its own when the pin point passes and shots are not on

Like i said before with auto every on every 1 on 1 i scored now im struggling to hit the target and when i do its awesome same for pass no more pin point and and alot more stay and awesome passes when you get it right
try manual and your fucked lol plus you cant have everything on semi ie the throw ball

[santiago]

Just did a "without looking pass" with J.Cole
I don't know if it was random or if it was because I pressed LT and B at the same time xD ( I was trying to do the fake rabona )

[imothop]

try manual and your fucked lol plus you cant have everything on semi ie the throw ball

but through balls on manual works just fine, so you dont need semi here. but shooting on manual is really a pain in the ass, so damn hard :D

[Chris Davies]

try manual and your fucked lol plus you cant have everything on semi ie the throw ball
It's not "throw ball", you can't change the settings of the throw-ins, it's THROUGH BALL. THROUGH BALL. I've only just realised what the hell you've been talking about for the past few days. Start spelling it right or I'm banning you.

:COP:

but throw balls on manual works just fine, so you dont need semi here. but shooting on manual is really a pain in the ass, so damn hart :D
It's THROUGH BALL!!!!!!!

(But I forgive you because English isn't your native language and Jonney is setting a bad example)

[gameklip]

something so real about the physics. it really is scaring away newcomers to the game though lol.

[Kallinn]

Is it possible to download the demo from the internet?

[Jamezinho]

I've just read through Suff's latest entry on FSB. It sounds very promising that we will get an even better retail version.

Any news on upcoming podcasts over at FSB?

[YoungGun_UK]

Hey sweetkilla just to ask you is this build different to the one you played at Leipzig, im shocked at the difference between the demo and the one I played in early Augest.

Also lads try shooting from the goalkick to see if there are any Goaly fuck ups, just thought of it but as i said in my first review a month back so far there the best keepers in a footie game to date :))

EDIT: Cheers for that CB :LOL: I was wondering what "Throw Ball" meant, maybe they gave us totaly control of throw ins.

[airjoca]

Perfectly executed set piece...

YouTube - FIFA09 Demo The almost perfect set piece (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-v-tEZng_U)

But Anelka f**ks it up... :lol:

[Jamezinho]

Nice move. Shame that header didn't go in, AirJoca.

[Rob92]

I am now going to start scoring own goals to avoid shootouts :)) That is a good idea which I didn't even give a thought to before. Thanks Placebo :TU:.

Also, that one song from the demo is starting to get on my nerves now.

[reddevils]

:o

what do you press so that the 2nd player on free kick pushes the ball so someone can smack it?

[Rob92]

I just found a trick in the arena, hold LT, then press the left analog the opposite way the player is facing, then quickly in another direction - it does a dragback to turn, and it looks really good and can create you some space.

The crossing and heading on this game is the best on any game I have played, I love it.

[airjoca]

:o

what do you press so that the 2nd player on free kick pushes the ball so someone can smack it?

I kept LT pressed and then A to pass...

[viniciusdcs]

Apparently all you people who like this demo are wrong:

"It is just the same crap as FIFA has always been...I totaly agree with you Yashot.People who know what real football is play PES... Only kids, people who dont understand football and americans play FIFA!The last version of FIFA that I enjoyed playing was the 99... then I found out about Winning Eleven (PES)! FIFA hasnt changed a thing, same animations, same crappy gameplay... oh, sorry FIFA does change... it changes the soundtrack now and then and the team licenses...It doesnt matter what people and EA say, every year is the same thing, FIFA sucks!One day in the future if FIFA has a gameplay that gets close even to Winning Eleven 4 (of 10 years ago) then I may try taking it serious.words of a brazilian who is crazy about the real football..." - comment on Gametrailers.com
He's a disgrace to real Brazilian football fans like me.

Fifa 09 sounds amazing from the comments here, and looks amazing from the videos as well. Fifa 08 already surpassed PES so I'm sure 09 is incredible. Unfortunately my 360 is on the repair shop right now so I can't play, I'm getting it back tomorrow.

My hands are itching to play the game, I've been reading every post on this thread and seeing every vid.

I really need to try out the new improved shooting and the goalkeepers(my biggest complaints with 08) to see if they were really improved like you guys are saying.

[Coopz]

Goalies are great

i have not seen 1 keeper error and i have played it alot

The speed the keepers run out and how they spread their self is brilliant

[jamxo]

Mine is broken too, but its going to be 3 weeks until I have it back! Still at least when its returned it shall be near the release of the full game (co-incidentally my birthday)

Anyway everything I've read and seen so far looks amazing, please keep the info coming!

It seems like the crowds havent been improved this year? Still a pixelly mess of hundreds of identical fans standing up in perfect synchronization? Thats a shame..

[kobashi]

He's a disgrace to real Brazilian football fans like me.

Fifa 09 sounds amazing from the comments here, and looks amazing from the videos as well. Fifa 08 already surpassed PES so I'm sure 09 is incredible. Unfortunately my 360 is on the repair shop right now so I can't play, I'm getting it back tomorrow.

My hands are itching to play the game, I've been reading every post on this thread and seeing every vid.

I really need to try out the new improved shooting and the goalkeepers(my biggest complaints with 08) to see if they were really improved like you guys are saying.

Those comments sound like a desperate PES fan who refuses to show any objectivity at all. If PES was bringing the same new things Fifa is u would not hear the last of it.

[Placebo]

YouTube - FIFA 09 DEMO Goals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgZ12mORres)

Demo goals by Rob aka Wepeeler, some of them are really nice, there is nothing to date closer to a real football match than watching Fifa09 IMO.

[Coopz]

Those comments sound like a desperate PES fan who refuses to show any objectivity at all. If PES was bringing the same new things Fifa is u would not hear the last of it.

Yeah like i said its a shame because all i want is a great game of footy whatever the name and im getting it

some people think they have ties to Konami for some reason and are missing out on one hell of a game

[mjsmith2k]

YouTube - FIFA 09 DEMO Goals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgZ12mORres)

Demo goals by Rob aka Wepeeler, some of them are really nice, there is nothing to date closer to a real football match than watching Fifa09 IMO.

HA! Was just going to post that in the vids thread.

[Coopz]

i need to ask about every video now because if the shooting is on assisted it dosnt deserve any credit

[Rob92]

I cannot play FIFA 08 again now, I went on it just now and it seems so terrible after playing the 09 demo

I'm going to have to survive on this until release :-pp.

[ronaldo10]

I am now going to start scoring own goals to avoid shootouts :)) That is a good idea which I didn't even give a thought to before. Thanks Placebo :TU:.

Also, that one song from the demo is starting to get on my nerves now.

yeah i always do that, can't wast more time taking penalty kicks in almost every match, it take more time then the actual game match. all i do in the last 5min of the game is, pass the ball to the gk, pres the running button with out any direction, so the ball go throw his legs, quick and simple.

[kobashi]

YouTube - FIFA 09 DEMO Goals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgZ12mORres)

Demo goals by Rob aka Wepeeler, some of them are really nice, there is nothing to date closer to a real football match than watching Fifa09 IMO.

loving it

[BwA Spectre]

Played like 7-10 games and I really really like it. It's super fluid, has superb animations, and flows like a real match. This is indeed a very early build since #1, Robinho is still in Madrid, and Jankulovsky is still in Milan instead of Atletico Madrid. #2, It was confirmed that there will be players vivible on the bench and there isn't here. So, it's obvious the final build will be different. My only major gripe is that gameplay is a tad bit too fast on "slow" mode. Just a tad. I could nit pick a little more but then again, you can find problems in any game, regardless how great. I see this as the absolute best footy game (along with WE9) I have ever played and it's just a demo. I expect some minor tweaks and some paint job touch ups in the final build. I think it'll be excellent and probably sports goty contender (along with NHL 09) so far.

[BwA Spectre]

Oh, guys! Check out the list of achievements:

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/fifa-09/achievements/

Be patient, sometimes page opens sometimes it doesnt.

[ronaldo10]

my impression of the fifa09 demo so far is possitiv
especially the fact that the responsivnes and the players reaction, are greatly improved, from the last year unplayable fifa08 (before someone throw stones at me, i must say in my opinion) only that its a huge improvment for me.

what i also liked is, the players feel more lighter, and u feel u have more controll over them.
i also like the animations in the game, and there are lots of it.

players use they brain of the ball, and sems to move realisticly on the pitch, giving u lots of options to pass the ball.

the game sems more physiqul, more like premiership style of football, they fight for the ball in every situation, like streatch to win the ball, or diving header to clear it, pushing eachother strength to srength, its amazing. (me as a deffender, playing as a stopper in real life, i love it).
overall is a great football game, attacking and deffending is well balanced judging it from this short demo.

the only problem is in arena the player feels more responsiv and smother while controling them, and when he does the tricks, but in actual game, the game sems to heat some slowdowns, and that maybe is the reasen why.
i hope ea will fix that, before the game comes out.

i really would like to happen in the game one day well i hope, the that when cpu is controlling a skillfull player, he would try to play as he does in real life, dribble u, not even ones that ever happen before,
that was something i always wanted to be done, in the football games, so that we can't predict the cpu, whem i play, but i gues that, every companys focus is in online experience, so i don't think they will bother with al that much.

[WILDSTER180774]

yeah i always do that, can't wast more time taking penalty kicks in almost every match, it take more time then the actual game match. all i do in the last 5min of the game is, pass the ball to the gk, pres the running button with out any direction, so the ball go throw his legs, quick and simple.

guys why dont you just pause the game in the last minute and select quit to the arena. A lot simpler. :-!

[Chris Davies]

guys why dont you just pause the game in the last minute and select quit to the arena. A lot simpler. :-!
You can't quit to the arena on the 360 version, you can only quit the demo entirely and then go back in again, which is obviously a pain in the :censor:...

[Blaccat]

This is retarded

Frequent flyer 20
Win in every stadium

for just 20 points, that better be a gold trophy on the ps3

[jamxo]

It was confirmed that there will be players vivible on the bench and there isn't here. So, it's obvious the final build will be different. .

Is this actually confirmed? I mean it would be so awesome if it was, but I thought it was just a rumor? (and it seems like quite a big feature to add in so late!)

[ronaldo10]

You can't quit to the arena on the 360 version, you can only quit the demo entirely and then go back in again, which is obviously a pain in the :censor:...

exactly:))

[SPMC]

for around $20, adidas live season will be worth it for this great game!

[WILDSTER180774]

MY IMPRESSIONS OF FIFA 09 DEMO

Well i am impressed. Firstly the game looks fine on my ps3. Cant understand comments saying it looks blurry and un-sharp. I have a 40"samsung 1080 and it looks stunning on my set up.

I like the menu design, very clear and easy to use.

The players likenesses are stunning imo. Love it when you see Terry in the tunnel before a game. Much improved over Euro2008 where the players had that waxy look to them. Kaka too looks superb.

I like the improved crowd graphics.

Now to the nitty gritty. The gameplay. Well i am very impressed. Feels more smooth than Euro. Faster buthave not changed the default speed settings as of yet. But although faster i think this can depend on how you play the game. I personally like to knock the ball around and have slow build ups so i find the pace fine for my style. The heading in this game is brilliant. It really takes good timing to win the challenges and there are so many diffrent animations. Shooting imo, is good. Better than Euro. I have scored 2 long range corkers already. Quite sensitive but think it just needs getting used to. Love the collision system. Love it when i sythed down Robben. Very lifelike. The AI is good too. They make mistakes and can be tackled unlike euro2008 when it seemed it was scripted, like when san marino turn into Brazil when you go 1-0 up against them.Cant wait til the full game. Shame the demo is 2 min halves as it does not give you time to really get in to a match. Cant understand why we could not have had longer. I mean its not as if it would stop you buying the full game. Could of done without the shootouts at the end or at least have the option to turn them off, gets very boring after a while. So all in all......I LOVE IT....ps wasnt the pro evo demo supposed to be out at the same time?

[WILDSTER180774]

exactly:))

my apologies guys, i have the ps3 version and that is possible :DOH:

[reddevils]

man i cant get enough of this demo lol i keep going back to it

it is just an incredible game, played SO many matches and i still see new animations here and there and also the goals are all different. love the fact that the keepers arent super humans anymore and NO MORE CHEAP CROSS GOALS!!! yay!! only scored like 1 goal from a cross lol

i also like how if you make a wrong pass the players that should have received the ball gets annoyed lol or when i try to make a great pass but is intercepted and the player who was supposed to receive it claps :D very nice touches

[fantomas23]

gripes and complaints in demo which i hope is sorted out in retail version:
1. can't select any other outfield player to take a throw-in, free kicks and corner kicks apart from assigning 1 free kick taker for each short and long distance. this is beyond annoying

2. i tried assigning captain to other player during a match and it says you're not allowed....what??? has fifa seen a real football match before when the captain is substituted?

[tonnyrat]

how do you aim my shots without getting my player to turn? everytime i try to set power first and aim later, my guy always hits it down the middle. if i try to aim while shooting, he turns and always runs into a defender or out of scoring angles.

[Sugarray]

for around $20, adidas live season will be worth it for this great game!

This $20 will be charge each month or just once?

[SPMC]

^ once, for the whole season. :)

for more info:
http://www.fifa09.ea.com/us/readnews/entryid/25210

[reddevils]

fuck that, i am using the free one and thats it, i only want updates for the Premier League anyway

[Sugarray]

^ once, for the whole season. :)
Thanks, i will take all!!!! will really be worth.

[stilts1844]

I havent been able to read through every page yet, but is anyone seeing what I'm seeing, that it doesn't matter who you are or what team you're playing against, that the game is just as hard? I played many games Real against Toronto and it was very tough-- i then proceeded to play a few games with ME being Toronto against Chelsea and I held my own just the same! I really am aching to try the game multiplayer because i think this will get rid of some of the issues- but one thing im very worried about is that i thought this year would be a big emphasis on attributes, and so far it doesn't necessarily seem that way... I'd like to hear what u guys think, esp the ones that have played some multiplayer

[reddevils]

Well i played alot with my bro and when we wee the "big" teams in the demo it was very tight and open (as in both teams looked like they could score)

but then i picked Chelsea and he picked Marseille and i DOMINATED the match, so for me teams do make a difference

[andish2001]

I havent been able to read through every page yet, but is anyone seeing what I'm seeing, that it doesn't matter who you are or what team you're playing against, that the game is just as hard? I played many games Real against Toronto and it was very tough-- i then proceeded to play a few games with ME being Toronto against Chelsea and I held my own just the same! I really am aching to try the game multiplayer because i think this will get rid of some of the issues- but one thing im very worried about is that i thought this year would be a big emphasis on attributes, and so far it doesn't necessarily seem that way... I'd like to hear what u guys think, esp the ones that have played some multiplayer

It depends on what difficulty level. If you clicked experienced then of course toronto will be hard - experienced players will be able to win. Thats how it works. The teams are separated much more on intermediate - Milan are definately the best (questionable - but its firmly down to their tactics), yet Chelsea are the hardest to breakdown and madrid are less good defensively because Pepe, im sorry, is not as good as JT. If I play toronto on intermediate with chelsea its a lot easier for me to dominate than if i was playing madrid. Not easy to win, though , but in my mind it should never be easy to win as long as there are professional footballers on the pitch. The attributes make much more of a difference in this iteration than in any previous FIFAs. I would even stretch as far to say that the attributes matter more in this than PES, where players only feel different via speed & agility & shot height. FIFA differentiates players on their positioning, their "typical" moves (similar to FM), as well as all their PES attributes. Teams are mainly different via the summation of each player being different, as WELL as their tactical implementation. Its Spot On.

Its Spot On.

[stilts1844]

Interesting, thanks guys. I should know better considering how much I played Euro and Fifa and knowing how much better multiplayer was- but for me then there was still an attribute problem. I've been playing on experienced so I guess on that difficulty they just make every team good- i mean toronto was beating me to headers and everything. Though it's weird that I chose Toronto and Chelsea couldn't beat me on experienced.

Wish I had someone around to try multiplayer! :(

[andish2001]

Interesting, thanks guys. I should know better considering how much I played Euro and Fifa and knowing how much better multiplayer was- but for me then there was still an attribute problem. I've been playing on experienced so I guess on that difficulty they just make every team good- i mean toronto was beating me to headers and everything. Though it's weird that I chose Toronto and Chelsea couldn't beat me on experienced.

Wish I had someone around to try multiplayer! :(

I agree with the headers. Finding it really difficult to win headers in this version. Well thats not entirely true. Offensive headers. I win most headers in defence, but have yet to have a shot on goal via a header. :SS Maybe im a crap crosser?

[s33k3rgr]

a question guys about the demo??
Whats your impression about formations and the way that can be utilized
strategicaly in the game?
I dont own a ps3 or xbox360 but i intent getting one ps3 along with fifa 09 this octomber....

[festa]

I've been playing the demo since it was released. Pre-ordered it already.
Just one question for you guys. Are the GKs a bit slow rushing out when you press the Y button or am I doing something wrong?

thanks

[stumpy_uk]

I've been playing the demo since it was released. Pre-ordered it already.
Just one question for you guys. Are the GKs a bit slow rushing out when you press the Y button or am I doing something wrong?

thanks

No I noticed that one, thought it was just a fifa thing having been a PES man all the time..

[hitmanuk]

Can anyone tell me how to utilise the 2nd man on freekicks? Can you lay it off and then hit it with the second man? Thanks

[evacuate]

Haven't heard any feedback on the new standing tackle where you hold down LT/LB while holding down the standing tackle button to only run by the other players side. And then release LT/LB to have a go at the ball, anyone tried it out yet?

Also, is it easy to defend by just holding down the standing tackle button all the time? Or is it possible that you take the player down instead because there is no timing involved when just holding it down?

I wish I could test it out myself but they never seem to release this demo for Silver users.

[evacuate]

And, from what I've seen of 09 and also 08, the main thing the FIFA guys need to rework is the trapping. Even crap players can trap impossible balls, and they can do it at impossible angles. And they also do it seemingly perfectly composed aswell.
Once they get that reworked, the differences will be felt the moment you receive a ball with a lesser player, since he will trap it slower, be less precise in the direction he traps it, and not keep the ball as close to his body, meaning he will need more open space to be able to do it without fear of an opponent getting to the ball.



You should write this in the official forum, in the FIFA 08 feedback and 09 demo feedback. It's a very good point that I think they might have overlooked but will think is a very good idea.

[Bitter Rivals]

Once they get that reworked, the differences will be felt the moment you receive a ball with a lesser player, since he will trap it slower, be less precise in the direction he traps it, and not keep the ball as close to his body, meaning he will need more open space to be able to do it without fear of an opponent getting to the ball

to the quote above, then people will start calling this unresposive and complain about response times ;))

[Trance_Allstar]

You should write this in the official forum, in the FIFA 08 feedback and 09 demo feedback. It's a very good point that I think they might have overlooked but will think is a very good idea.


Well, I've no idea where those are (official EA forums?), but feel free to post it on my behalf if you'd like.

To be honest, I wouldn't be comfortable posting it before I play the game. videos can be deceiving of course, and seeing how the Demo is mainly big teams, that could have something to do about it.

After I try a few games passing around with all the teams and seeing how the game behaves, then I'd gladly spread that opinion if I feel it is true.


Might be able to play the game today (thanks to my dear brother). Hopefully. :)

[winston]

I'm sick and tired of penalty shootouts... :(


You can quit the match at the final whistle if you get in during the first or second of the ref's 3 toots on the whistle. Just keep an eye on the clock so you know it's coming. Saves the tedium of shoot-outs.

[Coopz]

After playing 09 i may have to buy the full Adidas live thing now, when i said i wasn't :LOL:

and how have i missed this news!!!!!!

EA SPORTS today revealed a new online mode called FIFA 09 Clubs, designed for PLAYSTATION 3 and XBOX 360, that enables gamers to form or join user-controlled ‘clubs’ anywhere in the world. Through FIFA 09 Clubs, gamers can form or join clubs of up to 50 friends and field their strongest team when competing in Be A Pro: 10 v 10 Online Team Play, a feature that enables 20 people on 20 different consoles anywhere in the world to connect online to play a single match of FIFA 09.

FIFA 09 Clubs will determine the best virtual team in the world. Clubs are ranked based on total points and placed in a division. Clubs are relegated and promoted to different divisions based on their performance during the season. In addition, FIFA 09 Clubs will enable Club Managers to scout rival players to identify a player that fits his or her squad, and then recruit them to join their club. Up to 10 players on a Club can participate in a single game and Clubs are able to play multiple games simultaneously if they wish.

EA are legends

[evacuate]

One thing I wish they would to is to simulate manual controls on the AI. In 08 and Euro they pretty much always hit perfect crosses because they're on assisted.

If they would have those manual controls and add some sort of confidence attribute they might be able to simulate shitty players like Daniel Andersson in Sweden. You know, hitting those retarded passes that are not even close to his team mates because his under pressure and afraid of losing the ball. This never happens in computer games because every pass/cross always goes to a player.

They have panic defence where the defender gets scared and just clears the ball. They should add this to some midfielder too. Obviously Xavi and those players would never do this, but less confident players do in real life when under pressure. Most of the time they hit a long ball for the forward to run after and usually it's over hit. But sometimes they might try to do a normal pass but fail miserable because they're stressed out.

[*** Nomis1 ***]

Sorry to ask a totally old question here but im trying to determine which version to go for (its the xbox 360 version so far!). Can anyone confirm what the PS3 exclusive mode is again please? Thank-you.

[Trance_Allstar]

to the quote above, then people will start calling this unresposive and complain about response times ;))

Haha, probably true. ;)


Though to be honest, PES5 had a good system, extremely well balanced, and people don't complain about that being unresponsive, as far as I know anyways.


In PES5, sometimes the player would receive the ball on the top of his boot, causing the ball to jump up in the air, and you'd have to wait for the ball to fall down before the player could touch it again with his boot, or you could trap the ball again and control it with the chest in the direction you wanted to go.

Also, in PES5, trapping forwards or 45 degrees to the sides was fairly easy, but trapping and moving 90 degrees to the side or backwards was much more prone to failure, you couldn't really predict the touch. This meant that, just like in real life, if you had anything but world class players, whenever you received a ball, your safest bet was to move into the ball for the player to get control, and then start moving. This because when trapping "towards" the ball, you have the whole leg and foot behind the ball. Trapping to the side and such usually means sticking out your leg and needing to contact the ball on the inside or outside of the foot, which means that if the ball skips off the ground at the moment you trap, it will hit high on the boot and possibly roll/jump over or at least not be trapped "down" into the ground, meaning it will start bouncing and make the next move harder. Or it might be bouncing, causing you to have your foot too high, meaning the ball could potentially roll completely under your foot.


And, I also really want them to include the PES "patented" "trap, stop and turn" move. Where when you receive the ball with a stationary or slow moving player, you can trap the ball and have the player turn in the direction you specify in a single motion (PES R2 + direction). It would allow for some tighter trapping in small spaces, assuming the player is stationary or moving slowly. It's not really feasible performing the move with any real speed, since the foot movement needed to perform the move in most cases makes it impossible to stop at the same time.


@ 0:32

YouTube - PES6 Tricks & Skills - Trap Ball Moves (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfuEBPEmVUk)

[winston]

Well, I've no idea where those are (official EA forums?), but feel free to post it on my behalf if you'd like.

To be honest, I wouldn't be comfortable posting it before I play the game. videos can be deceiving of course, and seeing how the Demo is mainly big teams, that could have something to do about it.

After I try a few games passing around with all the teams and seeing how the game behaves, then I'd gladly spread that opinion if I feel it is true.


Might be able to play the game today (thanks to my dear brother). Hopefully. :)

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-series/

Certainly, wait until after you've played the full game in order that comments are based on fact and will have credence, but given EA "appear" to be listening, I think it's important to post your ideas somewhere where they might actually read them (unless you just email them direct).

I think the whole overhaul of the control system is a revolution in footy gaming that needs to happen at some point. FIFA09 is good but there's still so much that could be done to make it hugely more satisfying. EA may not have even given any thought to rethinking the control system, so that seed needs to be sown in their minds.

I did post a lengthy thread there a few months ago about improvements to 5v5 and got a actually got a "thank you" reply from one of the mods, which most posts don't get, so I'll be interested to see if he then passed it onto the develeopment team and if any of the suggestions were implemented in 09. If not, I'll be less optimistic about that forum having much worth, but if so, then it would be proof that they do listen and act.

[bulwa-boy]

fifa 09 pc nets - still a f*****g metal cage

[FlawlessCowboy]

After playing 09 i may have to buy the full Adidas live thing now, when i said i wasn't :LOL:

and how have i missed this news!!!!!!



EA are legends

This was talked about a few pages back. You even commented on it!!

Coopz is going crazy :SS

[PESV]

YouTube - FIFA 09 DEMO Goals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgZ12mORres)

Demo goals by Rob aka Wepeeler, some of them are really nice, there is nothing to date closer to a real football match than watching Fifa09 IMO.

That is awesome. Finally FIFA has got some personality! You could clearly tell who is on the ball, not by his physique, but by his playing style. Especially those RVN goals, that was him alright!

I suspect they have not empathized this feeling of diversity and personality for the lesser known players yet, but by the time they will, then ..wow.

How about the framerate guys? There has not been reported allot of stutter, other then the sporadic(I can live with that if it happens once every 3-5 mathces). But how is the basic framerate? I remember how the Arena was fluid in F08, but on the pitch, obvious perhaps, it struck down too harsh imo and thereby affecting the response time. I like a game to be smooth as butter in that respect. It has to have a really stable and solid framerate so that there is no distraction whatsoever between my input and the ingame effects(like in arena mode). Can anyone report on this please? Thanks!