FIFA 09 PS3/360 Discussion Thread

[Nick Cave]

haha is that a weird question ?


Na it was a crude joke..... a poor crude joke... ;))

[brunnoce]

that could happen billyboy..
theres nothing confirmed wrong for the US PSN so far...
lets pray PS3 users!

[Chris Davies]

so is it confirmed then that we are not getting the demo tonight on psn? and if not when are we likely to get it. Im gutted beyond belief. I must have checked the ps store a 100 times today.
Tomorrow morning according to Sony.

[Nick Cave]

That Womps...

[brunnoce]

Tomorrow morning according to Sony.

maybe tonight on US PSN

btw, can we use the keeper to take FK this year?

[WILDSTER180774]

Tomorrow morning according to Sony.

that sucks big time. Good job i am still off work. Typical, i had the whole day and place to myself to play the demo where as tomorrow the missus is in and i have things to do. I had a gut feeling this would happen. When something seems to good to be true it normally bloody is

[Sollito]

that could happen billyboy..
theres nothing confirmed wrong for the US PSN so far...
lets pray PS3 users!

:pray:

[baisti]

:ANGEL::pray:

[brunnoce]

:pray:

[baisti]

COME ON MORE MORE MORE

[Lami]

Am I the only one who finds this demo unresponsive? Its sluggish as hell for me :((

[Nick Cave]

Am I the only one who finds this demo unresponsive? Its sluggish as hell for me :((
You sure you have not downloaded 08 again...

[brunnoce]

guys, anyone explain this?
its already listed on psn: http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/Store#id=blus-30176&topid=40116

[baisti]

it sounds gut but its kind a weird

[WEtongelre]

It's on the list as "availible"

[Lami]

You sure you have not downloaded 08 again...

I've been enjoying everything apart from the shitty 2min halves and button lag. When passing/shooting its totally fine, but when im turning that's when I feel it is still slow.

[evacuate]

Am I the only one who finds this demo unresponsive? Its sluggish as hell for me :((

Did you find Euro 08 to be sluggish as hell too?

[baisti]

ok its your opinion

[Chris Davies]

I've been enjoying everything apart from the shitty 2min halves and button lag. When passing/shooting its totally fine, but when im turning that's when I feel it is still slow.
Let go of the sprint button!

If you're coming straight from PES it's a hard thing to let go. A very, very hard thing to let go, in-fact I still curse PES for giving the habit to me over the last ten years. But footballers don't run full-pelt all game. PES encourages you to hold down the sprint button from start to finish.

Only press sprint when you're in space, or you will constantly run into people and lose the ball.

[BillyBoy]

That confirms that the demo will be up on the US PLAYSTATION Network tonight between 10:30pm and 11:30pm. Im going to stay up to get it. :)

[jaygrim]

COME ON MORE MORE MORE

How do you like it, how do you like it.

[baisti]

hahahahahaha pray

[Scorpio]

Let go of the sprint button!

If you're coming straight from PES it's a hard thing to let go. A very, very hard thing to let go, in-fact I still curse PES for giving the habit to me over the last ten years. But footballers don't run full-pelt all game. PES encourages you to hold down the sprint button from start to finish.

Only press sprint when you're in space, or you will constantly run into people and lose the ball.

Excactly, wel explained Chris. My m8 must read this because I have tried to explain this to him when he constantly loses the ball.

Let go of PES and embrace Fifa, it feels like sacrilege but needs to be done to enjoy this gem. Just think 'real footy'...

[DagsJT]

I wouldn't read too much into that Playstation page, it was probably created before the delay was announced.

[Placebo]

Had a weird bug, playing as Madrid, I had Gago sent off for a second yellow (didn't even remember him getting a first yellow so it's possible he made two fouls in the same period of play and when play was brought back he got 2x yellows) anyways at the end of the match he got MOM, scored a penalty in the shootout and in the stats wasn't listed as being booked once let alone twice.

Oh and IMO the freekick ball physics when not doing a power freekick has to be considered a bug, the movement is like that of a 50p plastic football you buy at the beach, it's funny because the rest of the ball physics is absolutely spot on.

[WILDSTER180774]

That confirms that the demo will be up on the US PLAYSTATION Network tonight between 10:30pm and 11:30pm. Im going to stay up to get it. :)

how do u get it from the us store when your subscribed to uk like me?

[airjoca]

Rebound off the Ref, off the defender, goal. :)

YouTube - FIFA09 Demo Goal3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYWA9Mn_gHg)

[Rob92]

After reading CB's comment about his Dad scoring a low shot, I have just been shooting in the arena, just taking low driven shots with a tap of B and they do go in quite a bit! They are actually effective - they need to be placed very well though.

[Sollito]

Rebound off the Ref, off the defender, goal. :)



I loved the rebound off the ref!

[gameklip]

anyone figure out curved through passes?

[Scorpio]

I wouldn't read too much into that Playstation page, it was probably created before the delay was announced.

I checked that page after word got out that the european store wasn't going to have the update and the new releases were still from the previous, so I expect the demo in the us store pretty soon now!

Woohoo!!

[GIANNI]

keep on checking the US store but still nothing, if it does come tonight, hope it will not take like 3hrs to download

[Lami]

Did you find Euro 08 to be sluggish as hell too?
No. Euro 2008 was fine.
Let go of the sprint button!

If you're coming straight from PES it's a hard thing to let go. A very, very hard thing to let go, in-fact I still curse PES for giving the habit to me over the last ten years. But footballers don't run full-pelt all game. PES encourages you to hold down the sprint button from start to finish.

Only press sprint when you're in space, or you will constantly run into people and lose the ball.

I only use the sprint button when running into space. Whenever i turn with the ball, the player takes time to respond to my input, for example left, which gets me thinking "Ok I need to turn the other way now because the cpu is heading left". Then I press up or down but as soon as I do so the player decides to turn left and the ball is gone.

[GIANNI]

ITS HERE !!! US STORE

go to DEMOS - NEWEST DEMOS as it does not show up in the home screen yet

[Bingham67]

Had a weird bug, playing as Madrid, I had Gago sent off for a second yellow (didn't even remember him getting a first yellow so it's possible he made two fouls in the same period of play and when play was brought back he got 2x yellows) anyways at the end of the match he got MOM, scored a penalty in the shootout and in the stats wasn't listed as being booked once let alone twice.

Oh and IMO the freekick ball physics when not doing a power freekick has to be considered a bug, the movement is like that of a 50p plastic football you buy at the beach, it's funny because the rest of the ball physics is absolutely spot on.

Had the same bug friend got second yellow with Flamini got sent off was going what the hell looked in stats and only had 1 yellow.

[Sollito]

ITS HERE !!! US STORE

go to DEMOS - NEWEST DEMOS as it does not show up in the home screen yet

¬¬'

[miguel.]

It's out. :DD

[zida18]

yeah its 100% out
im downloading right now

[Radiation]

Just checked USA and EU PSN's and I'm getting last weeks content still

Edit

NEVER MIND - I DIDNT READ Sollito POST CORRECTLY

[gomito#10]

I play FIFA with him, yes - he plays in all the FIFA leagues as well. His 360 gamertag is TT 2006, add him if you want an easy opponent. :)

jacks dad is the best, he thinks im the tits

[Scorpio]

Yes last weeks here aswell, you guys messing with us? Cause I'm not in the mood...

[BobbyBox]

I am loving the Custom Cameras!!!!

Makes the game even better for me - Fantastic!!! if only you could choose the angle like you used to be able to do in PES - It would be perfect!!!!

you get a great angel in the broadcast Camera - but I don't like having the other side of the pitch looking so far away - can't get used to it.

Its stuff like this that make football games for me - So I am well happy.

Also with the gameplay itself - the last ditch tackles/passing/keeping the ball in play. Makes a huge difference!!! really great.

[pn929]

well ive played the demo all day and my impressions are, yes its better. a lot of thing that annoyed me in fifa 2008 have been improved.
control of the ball is better, the feeling of being in control is better, off the ball is better, shooting feels more realistic.
great!!
hold on lets go back and play pes2008. omfg its so much better than fifa 2009 its scary
i feel in control of the players, response is superb its scary. i had convinced myself ifa was the way to go but now........
no way.
the ultimate is 10v10 ok. fifa will do this very well indeed but ultimatwely pes online as smooth as fifa online will kill fifa.

[Mark]

keep on checking the US store but still nothing, if it does come tonight, hope it will not take like 3hrs to download

Well... for a couple of minutes... I was checking the US store... and woohoo... the FIFA 09 demo is finally available for download :DD

[Radiation]

Go into Demos and then Latest demos and it's in there - I wasn't following Sollito's instructions right. I'm at 10% after 2 mins so the D/L speed seem great especially for my BB speed.

[Blaccat]

Finally, thank u SCEA

SCEE u useless cunts, PES fanboys alway messing up fifa demos

[SagiB]

Yep, It's out on US Store!
I'm downloading it right now.
Good speed :)

[WILDSTER180774]

radiation how do u get the us store?

[SagiB]

radiation how do u get the us store?

You can create as many users you want.
If the original one is UK account, you need to create new account on your PS3 (not only on PSN, on the PS3 itself), and then when you sign up to the PSN, you put US as your country.
(sorry for bad English).

[WILDSTER180774]

ok thanks

[Blaccat]

radiation how do u get the us store?

Create a new profile on ur ps3

Go to the PSN icon on the xmb

create an account, choose USA as ur country

U will a US address, u can google that

[DagsJT]

Shitty speed here, 1% after 5 mins :ROLL:

[GIANNI]

not that bad here in Malta, its already 30%

[miguel.]

Looks like it's crashed here. It's stuck on 66%.

[Blaccat]

Shitty speed here, 1% after 5 mins :ROLL:
sorry, 11% in 5 mins for me

[Rob92]

The more I play this the more it impresses me - I love how you can now score into the far corner, really adds back the unpredictability that 08 lacked, you have to get yourself out of the habit of going for the near corner a lot though after playing 08.

[Sollito]

Shitty speed here, 1% after 5 mins :ROLL:

Same here! :((

[DagsJT]

4%

Bollocks. I'm going to sleep and leaving my PS3 on.

[TjaardA]

FFS i have a UK,EU account but not a american one :'(

[Nick Cave]

FFS i have a UK,EU account but not a american one :'(
Very easy to do see above posts...

[Uniqu3---89]

GIANNI MALTI XBIN ?

[Uniqu3---89]

mine on 33 percent malta agen here

[GIANNI]

yes xbin :) mine is at 45%

[danhammer]

Create a new profile on ur ps3

Go to the PSN icon on the xmb

create an account, choose USA as ur country

U will a US address, u can google that

xmb??

[wan_d7]

downloading as we speak. shitty speed or not, it's far better now that it's up! :LOL:

[DaWu]

finally! I am going to play the whole night long :)

[wan_d7]

xmb,the menu screen..

[Uniqu3---89]

40 lol gianni add me msn feel free ;)

[DagsJT]

xmb??

XMB is the main dashboard.

[TjaardA]

Very easy to do see above posts...

Ok ready downloading the game now :)

[Nick Cave]

Ok ready downloading the game now :)

:TU:

[DaWu]

having an us account is a must have. the do have completeley different demos very often than the european stores

[Sollito]

4%

Bollocks. I'm going to sleep and leaving my PS3 on.

What time is it in England?

Here still 6:34 pm :))

[miguel.]

Just finished installing. Let's see. :DD

[beboq]

psn demo is up

[Nick Cave]

What time is it in England?

Here still 6:34 pm :))

22:35...

[Chris Davies]

What time is it in England?

Here still 6:34 pm :))
Here it's 10:36pm now... And the summer's gone so the nights are closing in.

I'm off to bed now actually. :YAWN:

[DagsJT]

What time is it in England?

Here still 6:34 pm :))

22:35 pm here. 16% so no chance it'll be downloaded at a reasonable time.

I'll have a few games before work tomorrow instead :))

[Nick Cave]

:LOL:

[WEtongelre]

Thank you America! Downloading now. 76% in 18 minutes!

[Sollito]

Here it's 10:36pm now... And the summer's gone so the nights are closing in.

I'm off to bed now actually. :YAWN:

It's always summer here... =]

Good night!

[Sollito]

22:35 pm here. 16% so no chance it'll be downloaded at a reasonable time.

I'll have a few games before work tomorrow instead :))

:LOL:

I'm going to college now. See you tomorrow guys! :))

[Milanista]

My impressions:

Very good game, feels more natural and fluid. My only problem is that the players seem to look a little skinny, as opposed to apeish in 08. From far it looks great though. They even rated Ambrosini better than Gattuso - HUGE credit to the Milan researcher there.

2 minutes is hard to play, but I've managed to create some beautiful plays. The passing feels a lot 'heavier', meaning more realistic. The collisions are great too, but I wish they gave a few more advantages. I found shooting to be great too, not too hard and not too easy. Have seen some great saves by GKs, nothing dodgy yet.

Another problem is SLIGHT slowdown during the match, but very slight. Hopefully it will be polished up in October.

Very good:D

[jflores]

Any ideas if we are able to choose a different player for arena pre/match?

[beboq]

Thank you America! Downloading now. 76% in 18 minutes!

your welcome anything else

[BillyBoy]

Downloading from US PSN now.

[Blaccat]

xmb??

Xross media bar

the menu

[danhammer]

lol thanks mate, i'm tired....it's late

[JakeHK]

Dunno if anyone posted how to do the fake rabona yet:

if youre standing still facing goal at the arena,

tap the right stick left then press foward and cross, then A quickly to cancel it. then hold the tricks button and right on the left stick before u kick the ball

its kind of confusing until u can remember all the buttons to press

[Blaccat]

got stuck at 40%, switched to wired connection

now am flying

[Trance_Allstar]

Oh and IMO the freekick ball physics when not doing a power freekick has to be considered a bug, the movement is like that of a 50p plastic football you buy at the beach, it's funny because the rest of the ball physics is absolutely spot on.


I've seen some videos of the freekicks from way back when, and by the look of it they made it possible to get more curl on the ball.


Maybe you could tell me/us a bit more specifically about the physics of the freekicks? Maybe a video at some point? :)


For example, Striking a finesse freekick with Ronaldinho with maximum inside curl so that we can gauge how it looks.

Also, choosing a nobody in the arena (if possible) and striking a freekick with them to see if the curl is big only for the star freekickers.


To be honest, I felt that the curl in FIFA08 was a bit on the "light" side. I've seen Ronaldinho do some pretty rad freekicks in real life, as far as curl goes, something I felt wasn't reflected in 08.


So do explain further if possible, I'm curious. :)

[wan_d7]

so slow for me. now only 20%. i'm gonna off to bed. good morning everyone.

[pepe montoto]

Any ideas if we are able to choose a different player for arena pre/match?

I don't think you can. It's Ronaldinho by default. I believe it changes to a different random player from your favorite team. I picked Chelsea. Had Carvalho first, AS Cole later.
I'm loving the fact you can customize controller buttons. Good on EA. It is also great to be able to muck around with camera height and zoom as well as with the game speed.
Find it extremely hard with no assists, yet very realistic.
So far, my only concern is that bloody slowdown.

[Blaccat]

Thats licensing madness for u

Probably bcos he isnt on the chelsea team in the arena

[SXFuzz]

Slight differences between PS3 & 360:

PS3: Cech wears a crappier kit.
PS3: you play at the FIWC stadium.
PS3: In-game pause menu has 'Quit to Arena' instead of quitting the entire demo

[jonneymendoza]

how do i access the us psn store?

[Blaccat]

GOt to go play the demo, will be back in a bit

[evacuate]

The talk about slowdowns is worrying me. That is not acceptable at all, I mean Euro and 08 didn't have any at all under gameplay, only in replays.

[DagsJT]

how do i access the us psn store?

Follow the directions below:

1. First create a new user for your PS3.

2. Sign Up for the Playstation Network.

3. Select Hong Kong as your Country/Region. (You can select ANY region as long as you can provide a real address.)

4. Make sure your language is set to English.

5. Select Master Account.

6. Create an e-mail account for your new PSN ID. If you have another e-mail address you can use just use it.. a friends, a parents, or a girlfriends etc. Otherwise visit any of the free e-mail websites below:

* Gmail - http://www.google.com/mail/help/promo1.html
* lycos - http://mail.lycos.com/lycos/Index.lycos
* mail.com - http://www.mail.com
* hotmail - http://www.hotmail.msn.com
* AOL - http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/email.adp

Once you've created an account simply use the e-mail address in your registration.

7. Create an online ID.

8. Enter a name, it's up to you how to play this one.

9. Next you'll need to provide a valid address for the region. Lets say you pick Hong Kong as my new homeland. Visit Frommers HERE and click on any of the restaurants names. Once you do this you'll have a valid address for your new account so enter it!

That's it, congratulations you've now successfully created a foreign region PSN account for your PS3! Enjoy the spoils!
It's basically the same principle for every account that you create. You just have to change the region, email address, (language for Japanese account) and the address itself.

My example for a US account is almost the same as in the quote but step 3 would be different it would be something like this:-

Region - USA
Address - 1226 Rodeo Drive, Beverly Hills, California, 90210 (zip code).

If people get stuck on addresses just look up some company names as suggested http://www.yellowpages.com. I wonder if Microsoft's address has been taken up for a US account?

[SXFuzz]

I really like the game so will concentrate on putting across a few [predominantly minor] negative points:

- in the arena, the sound the goalkeeper's gloves make when saving a shot is horrible (it's like someone has pulled a plunger off the floor)

- in the custom team tactics, when scrolling down near the bottom, the sound effect is too loud. This is obviously not something major to worry about, especially in a demo, but something that bothered me nonetheless.

- the penalties are still (as with 90% of footy games) crap. I still long for the ISS64 penalty system. Even Football Kingdom had an original, pretty effective system. In FIFA 09, the variation in where you can put the ball is minimal.

- free kick swerve. EA must've called 'twos' on Konami's joint whilst programming this part of the game.

- I still despise EA's number and lettering. I hate the way the names stretch across the back, and I hate the miniscule numbers. GRRR!

- the Chelsea kit in particular is hurrendous. People jumped on ThomasGOAL (being such an avid PES fan) but one glimpse of the real shirt would let you know just how bad it is: the emblem should be lower than the adidas logo and, in turn, the sponsor should be placed lower than the badge.

- Bosingwa hasn't got his freakishly grotesque monobrow :(

+ everything else (so far)

[pepe montoto]

The talk about slowdowns is worrying me. That is not acceptable at all, I mean Euro and 08 didn't have any at all under gameplay, only in replays.

It is a worry indeed. More evident in corners and FKs, same as Evo. Hopefully it will be fixed.

[gameklip]

anyone figure out curved through passes?

???

[Bingham67]

Been playing 360 demo for most of day but got PS3 version as that what played Fifa 08 and Euro on also prefer controller but that aside.

One thing i noticed is arena to right of player there seems to be blockyness when players moves its very feint but not noticeable on 360 version not sure if some bug with graphics. In game fine though but it just appears in arena very strange as havnt noticed this on 360 arena.

[santiago]

If someone needs Rapidshare's help to get the demo PM me ;)

[Cammey]

I have been playing the 360 version all day.

I have just put the PS3 one on and it is awful in comparison.

Slow downs, blocky graphics. :SS

[Blaccat]

All i can say about the shooting WOW!

Still have to get use to rhyme of the game tho

[brunnoce]

my pal just confirmed me that u can use the D-pad on the ps3 controler!!!
THANK U EA!!!

i know most people think this is unecessary, but for me it was very important , specially beacsue the analog stick on the ps3 controller is totally crap(the 360 one i used just fine)

[reddevils]

damn, sorry about earlier...it was my bro, he wanted check if there was anything new so i gave him my password and regretted it since lol

anyway just for the record i have a 360 and a PS3, i am not a fanboy....i despise them (fanboys) infact

[brunnoce]

I have been playing the 360 version all day.

I have just put the PS3 one on and it is awful in comparison.

Slow downs, blocky graphics. :SS

is that so?
maybe your gfx set up in the ps3are worst than your 360?
like i had my 360 on 1366x768(vga cable) while i hav my ps3 at 720p which is a bit inferior to the 1366 resolution.

[StayingPower]

So I can't get the demo because my gold account is under 18 and thus can't download unrated games. Fifa 09 is currently unrated. Does anyone know when it's available for Silver accounts?

[Cammey]

is that so?
maybe your gfx set up in the ps3are worst than your 360?
like i had my 360 on 1366x768(vga cable) while i hav my ps3 at 720p which is a bit inferior to the 1366 resolution.

If only mate.

They are both at 1080i through an HDMI cable.

I was gonna get it on PS3 too. :((

[Blaccat]

I have been playing the 360 version all day.

I have just put the PS3 one on and it is awful in comparison.

Slow downs, blocky graphics. :SS
huh?

mine looks crisp

[psychstigma]

Ok, played about 4-5 games on the 360, so far, I have to say it's a big improvement over 08. Shots are better weighted and have more loft to them. At times you can get a wicked curve on the ball. Also, did anyone notice that you can now effectively shoot the ball to the far post, opposite to the movement of the goalkeeper when you are sprinting in to the 16 yard box...simply amazing, even the animations look really good.

Collisions are pretty good, sometimes I can't predict who will win headers in center field. I was controlling Dichio and he went up with another player, only for the both of them to miss the ball completely!

Can't comment on the PS3 demo, but the 360 has no framerate issues that I could notice, this could only be a demo thing and not be an issue in the final build.

I'm a little unhappy that regular passes, for ex. in the backfield, don't have much or any curve to them.

[reddevils]

So I can't get the demo because my gold account is under 18 and thus can't download unrated games. Fifa 09 is currently unrated. Does anyone know when it's available for Silver accounts?

Just create a new xbox live account on the 360 (using a hotmail account where you put your age 18 or over), then it should give you a month of GOLD for free

this way you can download FIFA 09 demo

[hanakuka]

mine looks immaculate lovin the responsiveness

[Bingham67]

I have been playing the 360 version all day.

I have just put the PS3 one on and it is awful in comparison.

Slow downs, blocky graphics. :SS

I get slowdown in arena and blockyness to right of player ingame seems to be fine though.

[Cammey]

I get slowdown in arena and blockyness to right of player ingame seems to be fine though.

I dunno it just seems no where near as polished as when I am playing on the 360 one it's very strange.

And to be honest it sucks ass.

[pepper63]

It plays in different stadium to 360,and the time is dusk as default. Can't for the life of me decide which i like best..

[BillyBoy]

One word: Brilliant. :)

[pjft]

Ok, just a few comments.

Honestly, it's the first time I enjoyed playing FIFA in a long while, especially because I can use the Dpad, and as such I won't feel like I'm running like a headless chicken, I have much more precise control.

Thanks EA.

Still, the demo looks severely unpolished, especially in what concerns transitions between cut-scenes.

Some things that annoyed me:

- The penalty shootout feels like a 5-a-side penalty shootout: both the keeper movements as well as the ball direction is almost always the same...

- The keepers seem a bit flawed in a couple of aspects. I scored a goal where the opposing keeper, instead of running to a lofted through ball - which he would likely get before me - decided to stay put and way for me to score. Also, I shot a screamer that hit the crossbar, the ball bounced in the smaller goal area, and the opposing keeper remained still, waiting for the defender to come and clear it, even though there was none of my players nearby. I hadn't seen any of this in videogames since... 1998?

- The passing feels nice. I don't like it that it "accumulates" my keypresses - for instance, if I press "X" twice, it will pass the ball twice... Maybe it takes some getting used to.

- The running animations, in all fairness, don't look that great to me... All players look like they are swimming crawl-style, when they are sprinting. Not that it bothers me, I just happened to notice it on a replay.

- The passing feels great, I know I said it earlier, but it's worth mentioning. Also, the off-the-ball movement from the CPU players in the offense is pretty nice.

[EDIT] Forgot to mention. I mis-timed a tackle from behind. The animation was beautiful, and luckily the ref didn't even give me a card. I wish I had recorded it :)

Overall, this will probably keep me busy for a while more.

Just my honest opinion in this thread, no thought-provoking intended.

Best regards, and all the best for those of you who are loving it more than I am able to.

Paulo Tavares

[YoungGun_UK]

Just played the demo since I playtested it in early Augest and bloody hell! They've improved it so much since then! The responsiveness of the game when I first tried it was similar to Euro but now its pretty much perfect (If anything maybe its to responsive)

It seems easier to pull of tricks but what I liked was when I couldnt pull the same tricks I could with Ronaldinho as i could with Lampard for example who would more just do fancy turns etc which gave each player a more authentic feel.

The shooting was great when I played it initially and to be fair its got even better, great job by EA, the only slight gripe I have with it that when you press shoot its a bit to sensitive.

The Passing felt good but not much different to what I thought before, The Collisions in this game are extremely good on the eye and also give the game a total new feel. Me being poor at slide tackling i found myself chasing shadows most of the time due to me preffering the standing tackle which has now been improved a lot since 08.

I think the default speed has been increased slightly from what I played before I thought it felt a tad fast so I'll give "Slow" a try out tommorow but will probably stick to "Normal" as this can be caused by the small time given to us so we without thinking rush our play.

The best thing to come out of this Demo for me so far is the AI, Bloody hell!, ok its not perfect, its not even great but I'll go as far as say its "Good" which for a football game is huge step forward since all the others ive played have been script after script. I hope I feel this way once I have the full game. In in all as I said when i playtested initially is the best football available. :))

[StayingPower]

Just create a new xbox live account on the 360 (using a hotmail account where you put your age 18 or over), then it should give you a month of GOLD for free

this way you can download FIFA 09 demo

Thanks a lot, its downloading :EASY:

[ash]

The custom tactics is confusing. How do I set it the team mentality to All Out Attack?

[pjft]

Actually, a couple of games more, I'm getting that "one more match" feeling I never got from FIFA...

Let's see.

I just noticed some sweet animations - one player jumping over a sliding tackle from a player of the same team :)

By the way, is it just me, or in the PK cutscenes, the kicker ALWAYS goes in the cutscene to the opposite side to where he's going to take the PK from?

Example: right-footed player, runs to the ball from the ball's LEFT, in the cutscene he went to the opposite direction, and when the camera switches - voila, there he is on the other side :P

Minor niggle, though, it will surely be ironed out.

Best regards,

Paulo Tavares

[ash]

Few things I noticed:
- passing has been cahnged, it is a lot better now. If you put sufficent power, no more of these crap slow passes
- you now get yellow cards a lot more after play ons, when the ball goes out of play next (bad for me, I love sliding around)

[jflores]

I have to admit that I'm not feeling the Demo. The ball physics just don't seem right sometimes. It feels like your kicking a beach ball sometimes. Even the sound of it sounds like a plastic ball. The response times are practically the same as Euro08, I expected a tad quicker response times. Players just seem floaty and the ball on their feet doesn't feel heavy when dribbling, running or shooting. There is still some negative fifaish things from the past that haunt this game. There is just some things that this game does right and others that still leave much to be desired of. Long balls still seem floaty on shots and I still don't feel that players have their own weights in terms of attributes as they do in PES. I have to agree with Gomito on this one. Also, the numbers on players jerseys(especially when you are in PK mode)are so small you practically need microscopes to see them. Rediculous in my oponion..Some of the animations look like slow motion and sluggish, especially goalies. Not very impressed at all.

It's a decent game, and I appreciate EA for listening to the community, especially in fixing the nets..however nice net animations just won't be enough for me to buy the game this time. There is still much more to fix in this game. Hope no one gets offended but this is my view.

[SXFuzz]

By the way, is it just me, or in the PK cutscenes, the kicker ALWAYS goes in the cutscene to the opposite side to where he's going to take the PK from?

Example: right-footed player, runs to the ball from the ball's LEFT, in the cutscene he went to the opposite direction, and when the camera switches - voila, there he is on the other side :P

FIFA's transitioning from main screen to cut scene and vice-versa has always been shocking. I really don't know why this is. Pro Evo calculates the position of every player for both situations (and has done so since the beginning) so don't understand why this is such a problem for EA.

I also don't like the cut scene with the referees checking the nets. Why add this if the nets don't actually move? They fiddle around with the nets as if they're window panes.

[The Stag]

i have just been playing this round a mates house and it does feel very good. 1 thing im not sure of is the shooting system. i was using semi automatic shots and i couldnt seem to score outside of the 18 yard area. can anyone give me any tips on this? i was playing the demo on the intermediate setting.

thanks

stag

[JayD]

I have to admit that I'm not feeling the Demo. The ball physics just don't seem right sometimes. It feels like your kicking a beach ball sometimes. Even the sound of it sounds like a plastic ball. The response times are practically the same as Euro08, I expected a tad quicker response times. Players just seem floaty and the ball on their feet doesn't feel heavy when dribbling, running or shooting. There is still some negative fifaish things from the past that haunt this game. There is just some things that this game does right and others that still leave much to be desired of. Long balls still seem floaty on shots and I still don't feel that players have their own weights in terms of attributes as they do in PES. I have to agree with Gomito on this one. Also, the numbers on players jerseys(especially when you are in PK mode)are so small you practically need microscopes to see them. Rediculous in my oponion..Some of the animations look like slow motion and sluggish, especially goalies. Not very impressed at all.

It's a decent game, and I appreciate EA for listening to the community, especially in fixing the nets..however nice net animations just won't be enough for me to buy the game this time. There is still much more to fix in this game. Hope no one gets offended but this is my view.

Wow , it's amazing how people can see the same thing totally different, I really disagree with every gameplay aspect you mentioned, to me it just gets better and better, my only gripe is damn 2 minute halves. Bring on the full game I say.And this is coming from a footy game fan not a FIFA one.

[pjft]

Ok... I'm off for the night.

Having had a surprisingly good time with the demo - more than I would've had expected from the videos - there's still a couple of things that trouble me.

Does the AI know how to handle balls near the sidelines? Because every time there's a loose ball near the sidelines, they just go there and when trying to control it, always go over the sideline... Is it just me? I mean, I don't mind getting free throw-ins, but hey... I'm not expecting this to happen when I chose the setting "I play football games for a living" :|

Asides from it - and the fact that every time I do a sliding tackle a bit away form a player - trying to intercept a pass - the CPU always does a 270º loop dribble (turns right, turns right, turns right) and passes the ball...

Well, I'll have to sleep over it.

Best regards,

Paulo Tavares

[proxi]

Love the demo, it's great fun and I shall be buying the full game. Arena is now even more addictive, I love the new animations, better passing, shooting and the much improved collisions. Really enjoying it.

However, if it had Pro Evo's editing features for kits, players and sounds, I would no longer seek anything at all in my life to come.

[airjoca]

So it has happened. Two minute halves are frustrating, and I can't go back to FIFA08 now... :(

[StayingPower]

I love the demo, it's amazing.

[matherto]

Downloading right now.

Hoping for the best.

I'm a bit pissed so it might end up being fantastic anyway.

[ThomasGOAL]

I still don't like the style of this game...

+ good IA
+ good positions
+ 1080 natif

- Aliasing on 1080 natif game (first time i see that)
- gameplay to heavy, no sharp (80% why i don't like this game)
- ball physic is joke on freekick, make curve like with wind at 150m/h
- no respect for shirt, number and names on the back

[Badgerman]

Take cover, Thomas.

[reddevils]

wow thomas

i am no fanboy but people like you makes me want to defend FIFA :? i wont but it MAKES me want to :DOH:

[brunnoce]

Take cover, Thomas.

u too badY!
:lol:

[brunnoce]

I still don't like the style of this game...

+ good IA
+ good positions
+ 1080 natif

- Aliasing on 1080 natif game (first time i see that)
- gameplay to heavy, no sharp (80% why i don't like this game)
- ball physic is joke on freekick, make curve like with wind at 150m/h
- no respect for shirt, number and names on the back

i those 3 are very reasonable points thomas brought up...i agree with him..i felt the same way about those things.

[drekkard]

This demo is brilliant. Physics in this game are a full generation over PES, as are the animations and control depth.

Anyone can criticize the game, because it has (and we will discover more in thime) its own flaws.

Comparing pes to this is like comparing a pig to a rose. Really, anyone defending PES physics in front of this is simply inmature fanboyism. Shooting is better than ever, passing is excellent, and you can play it full manual. After some time thinking about, the only thing PES could do better is the editing, but gameplay wise there's an abysm right now between the two.

I feel sad for the fanboys who still find pes 2008 better than fifa 09. I can't understand it but given that there's someone like Bush ruling a country in the world, anything is possibe.

[Badgerman]

wow thomas

i am no fanboy but people like you makes me want to defend FIFA :? i wont but it MAKES me want to :DOH:



He actually made positive and negative points, which are seemingly valid and not overexaggerations. He's not shitting on the game for no reason.

[brunnoce]

He actually made positive and negative points, which are seemingly valid and not overexaggerations. He's not shitting on the game for no reason.

i agree...people HAVE to respect his opinions, like he does with everybody.

[reddevils]

He actually made positive and negative points, which are seemingly valid and not overexaggerations. He's not shitting on the game for no reason.

sorry but this was just........WTF

- gameplay to heavy, no sharp (80% why i don't like this game)

:SS It is anything but heavy, FIFA 08 was heavy....this game is free, the ball doesnt stick to anything

its hard to respect a guys opinion on a game he would never like even if it played the same as PES, i dont understand why PES fans comment on FIFA and FIFA fans comment on PES :? neither can have a valid opinion because they havent played the previous game enough.

I buy both every year and until 08 games i always sold FIFA and kept PES but this time i sold PES08 and kept FIFA 08, and going by the FIFA 09 demo and PES09 videos and such FIFA may be kept again

unless konami finally releases the good version of the game, like they were supposed to last year :LOL:

[drekkard]

i those 3 are very reasonable points thomas brought up...i agree with him..i felt the same way about those things.

You both would have to explain me better what it means:

"gameplay too heavy, not sharp"

Because I simply don't understand it. Please elaborate what you're saying: it's the pace? the animations? the passing? Shooting? Positional and tactical things? It's the off the ball movements? Physics?

Because this demo played in manual (passing in semi) gives the closest thing to reality human race has achieved in the terms of simulation. You can say you don't like simulation, but no one can't deny that's the closest to reality human race has gone in football videogaming.

Yes the freekick curve is overdone and some details could be better, but GAMEPLAY-wise there's nothing I've seen done better before.

Someone has found the SPEED slider in the PS3 demo? I'm playing on normal and would like to test the other speeds. I will surely play on slow, so if the game is already brilliant on normal, I can imagine I would like it even more!

[world`soccer]

I still don't like the style of this game...

+ good IA
+ good positions
+ 1080 natif

- Aliasing on 1080 natif game (first time i see that)
- gameplay to heavy, no sharp (80% why i don't like this game)
- ball physic is joke on freekick, make curve like with wind at 150m/h
- no respect for shirt, number and names on the back

Come On ThomasGoal you and Lami like u dont wanna face the truth !! Seabass really disappoint us with his same old school PES Fifa doing great and its wonderful game if u really love Football and love PES so u have to admit that FIFA way better now so konami must listen to the fans and do what we like not what do they !! since PES6 and konami forget about the fans and go backward not forward with removing things from the game - no real nextgen - online problems - licensing problems and much more my heart will hearts me if i want to think about them plus that we keep give konami our trust and buy the game so plz stop complain about fifa and give it a life

[stilts1844]

Initial impressions for me are, am really liking the demo but wish i could play someone rather than the AI- biggest problem so far seems to be that again no matter what the level of the team you're playing, if ur on the highest difficulty the worst teams are still as tough as the others! tried playing toronto FC with Real and have gotten beaten a couple of times... could be getting used to the game but i wasnt losing when i was playing chelsea, AC etc. But I'll be playing online so it doesnt matter. I find it astounding as well that that bogus review I read said that its similar to Euro, it's so different from Euro its crazy. Anyone who could say that has never played the games. Am liking it so far but need to play against someone before i can make final conclusions :)

[Blaccat]

"Pig to rose"

Goodnite, its about to get ugly

[gesusaldinho]

Just played the demo on the ps3 for 4 hours - really like the game. Better response times (can till be improved for 10), better shooting (again has room for improvement, maybe my biggest gripe is the shooting still), excellent animations, for the first time with fifa I can feel player individuality - kaka and pato are awesome.

The nets!!!! absolutely brilliant.....

The skill moves are awesome, Robinho for madrid lit the stadium up more than once...

Keepers are almost faultless from what Ive seen.

The best football games I've ever played, cant wait for the full game.

This is coming from a former pro almost fanboy...I have been fully converted.

The nets did it ;-)

[adelante]

FIFA's transitioning from main screen to cut scene and vice-versa has always been shocking. I really don't know why this is. Pro Evo calculates the position of every player for both situations (and has done so since the beginning) so don't understand why this is such a problem for EA.
I think there's a simple explaination behind that (well its my theory anyway)...the players in FIFA's cutscenes don't seem contextual because the game predetermines who gets to appear in them so as to avoid having weird collision detection when they're say, group hugging in a celebration. In PES its common to see a player's hand not making any contact at all when he's giving a pat on the back to a teammate or when he's pulling someone up on his feet...and that's because each player have different stature, height, limb length, etc and it wouldn't be resourceful to motion-capture one animation with different people...

[rickyricc]

So the demo is great, nice gameplay and completely different to Fifa 08 which is a very good thing.. The heading animations are superb, scored a cracker against R Madrid with Marseille only to be ruled out for offside..
The only things im abit concerned with are:
- World Class doesnt seem to much of a challenge.. Played 3 games mixing it up with the good and bad teams and won two 1-0 and the other went to penalties.. I hope Legendary really steps it up..
- The curve you can now put on FK's is just ridiculous.. I thought it was alright on 08, maybe make it a little bit better but now they have gone way to far.. It seriously needs to be toned down..
- Chelsea kits looks like turd but hopefully this should be ironed out..
Other than that, looking forward to picking this bad boy up..

PS- Does anyone know how to shield the ball on the PS3?

[brunnoce]

You both would have to explain me better what it means:

"gameplay too heavy, not sharp"

Because I simply don't understand it. Please elaborate what you're saying: it's the pace? the animations? the passing? Shooting? Positional and tactical things? It's the off the ball movements? Physics?

Because this demo played in manual (passing in semi) gives the closest thing to reality human race has achieved in the terms of simulation. You can say you don't like simulation, but no one can't deny that's the closest to reality human race has gone in football videogaming.

Yes the freekick curve is overdone and some details could be better, but GAMEPLAY-wise there's nothing I've seen done better before.

Someone has found the SPEED slider in the PS3 demo? I'm playing on normal and would like to test the other speeds. I will surely play on slow, so if the game is already brilliant on normal, I can imagine I would like it even more!

ill try to explain simply

i think the animations are too big so it makes u fell players are too slow to do things, some people call this reaction times...
when u use the drible button(the one of tricks) this is problem is cut down..
but without this, everything feels heavy, specially if u are used to play PES...
im not saying which one is right, becasue for me those are 2 diferent games, and i like both.. but i can definatly understand what thomas is saying, and i agree with him

BTW i was using the FAST speed.

[DDR Midian]

Can anyone give me a few hints on how to do various tricks? I've seen the YouTube juggling video but the chances of me pulling that stuff off mid-match are pretty slim, so what kinda stuff can you do while running?

I'll be honest, I'm not much of a football fan, I don't even support a team. I buy about one football game every 5 years and that's fine for me, any more often than that and they just seem too similar to the previous game in the series. Despite all that, the game itself can be pretty fun, but considering I know nothing about the technical side of the game, I find importance in other aspects like tricks, pitch/stadium variety, weather etc and I'm pleased to say that so far I'm impressed. FIFA 08 didn't win me over and neither did PES 2008 but this year... I think it's a buy.

I don't see why the guys on the official forum are so annoyed at the speed, obviously I'm no pro but it seemed fine to me, though perhaps it's because I'd just come from playing the NHL 09 demo. They were also moaning the graphics were too cartoon-like, wtf? I thought the yellow Chelsea kit was too bright so I knocked the contrast down one notch in the options screen and now it's beautiful. I suppose being the official site they just wanted perfection, so they're always gonna find something to moan about. I remember playing FIFA 95 on the Mega Drive and thinking it was the best thing ever, and then again with World Cup 98 on the N64... I can't help but wonder if those same people were as anal about such minute details back then too.

...quite a long first post for a game I'm not really all that obsessed about. Hello by the way!

[world`soccer]

So after playing one hour of the demo i can say wow that game gonna rock really its make me feel like am watching a real life football match but the peace was too fast so maybe EA can fix that thing or can i change the game speed ? ( i tried to but did`nt know how ) also EA this is a demo so there is time to fix the kits and numbers looks thats all its wonderful

P,s: i get used to Xbox 360 pad and am playing the demo with PS3 pad it change alot of controll 360 pad much better then the ps3 one :/

[world`soccer]

Can anyone give me a few hints on how to do various tricks? I've seen the YouTube juggling video but the chances of me pulling that stuff off mid-match are pretty slim, so what kinda stuff can you do while running?

I'll be honest, I'm not much of a football fan, I don't even support a team. I buy about one football game every 5 years and that's fine for me, any more often than that and they just seem too similar to the previous game in the series. Despite all that, the game itself can be pretty fun, but considering I know nothing about the technical side of the game, I find importance in other aspects like tricks, pitch/stadium variety, weather etc and I'm pleased to say that so far I'm impressed. FIFA 08 didn't win me over and neither did PES 2008 but this year... I think it's a buy.

I don't see why the guys on the official forum are so annoyed at the speed, obviously I'm no pro but it seemed fine to me, though perhaps it's because I'd just come from playing the NHL 09 demo. They were also moaning the graphics were too cartoon-like, wtf? I thought the yellow Chelsea kit was too bright so I knocked the contrast down one notch in the options screen and now it's beautiful. I suppose being the official site they just wanted perfection, so they're always gonna find something to moan about. I remember playing FIFA 95 on the Mega Drive and thinking it was the best thing ever, and then again with World Cup 98 on the N64... I can't help but wonder if those same people were as anal about such minute details back then too.

...quite a long first post for a game I'm not really all that obsessed about. Hello by the way!


look for me i keep holding the tricks button while running and when am faceing a player and think about past him i release my finger from the sprint button and do any trick after passing him i`ll press the sprint button again :) hope that will help u

[jonneymendoza]

o dear. ps3 impressions. can anybody confirm this?

to be honest i cant see any difference in speed from slow-normal -fast.

They all seem really fast!!! none of the speed settings feel like 08, which is a shame as i thought the 08 speed was perfect.

Even on the slow speed, the players seem to be able to sprint really unnaturally fast!!

Also it doesnt look as crisp and realistic (graphically) whilest playing. Character models are really good, but it just doesnt look as crisp and realisitic in gameplay as 08.

Great game though, and the improvements on player movements is a big enough winner for me

[Achillias]

Are there graphical differents between the PS3 demo and the XBOX360?

Since i only have a Playstation i can't see it by mine self.

[Lami]

Come On ThomasGoal you and Lami like u dont wanna face the truth !! Seabass really disappoint us with his same old school PES Fifa doing great and its wonderful game if u really love Football and love PES so u have to admit that FIFA way better now so konami must listen to the fans and do what we like not what do they !! since PES6 and konami forget about the fans and go backward not forward with removing things from the game - no real nextgen - online problems - licensing problems and much more my heart will hearts me if i want to think about them plus that we keep give konami our trust and buy the game so plz stop complain about fifa and give it a life

Eh? :SS

I've been playing it non stop and enjoying every bit apart from the issues I already mentioned; 2 minute halves because I can barely string a few passes together and the half is over, and the sluggishness when turning.

Now I have no idea why turning with the ball feels sluggish to me, or maybe call it button/input lag. Am I doing something wrong?

Playing on 720p with component cable. Does that make any difference?

[Lami]

ill try to explain simply

i think the animations are too big so it makes u fell players are too slow to do things, some people call this reaction times...
when u use the drible button(the one of tricks) this is problem is cut down..
but without this, everything feels heavy, specially if u are used to play PES...
im not saying which one is right, becasue for me those are 2 diferent games, and i like both.. but i can definatly understand what thomas is saying, and i agree with him

BTW i was using the FAST speed.

I think we have the same problem.

Btw, how do I change game speed?

[EatonTJ]

..however nice net animations just won't be enough for me to buy the game this time...

Wow. You've changed.

[amcp_ffm]

FIFA 09 Juggling Skills Tutorial

http://www.sweetpatch.tv/index.cfm?articleid=2985

[EatonTJ]

o dear. ps3 impressions. can anybody confirm this?

o dear. ps3 impressions. can anybody confirm this?

to be honest i cant see any difference in speed from slow-normal -fast.

They all seem really fast!!! none of the speed settings feel like 08, which is a shame as i thought the 08 speed was perfect.

Even on the slow speed, the players seem to be able to sprint really unnaturally fast!!

Also it doesnt look as crisp and realistic (graphically) whilest playing. Character models are really good, but it just doesnt look as crisp and realisitic in gameplay as 08.

Great game though, and the improvements on player movements is a big enough winner for me


No, I've found quite the opposite. The speed settings have a very noticeable effect... especially from fast to slow and vice-versa. Fast speed is similar to PES style up-and-down with lots of long through balls and sprinting, while Slow speed is more akin to FIFA 08 (and normal like EURO 08) which is what I prefer.

I found the speed change to be drastic.

Also, for those still looking how to change the speed it is on the 2nd page (press right trigger) of the game settings menu on the last menu screen before you begin a game. (So after you have selected your teams... in the same menu where you can first fiddle faddle with the tactics). It is also on the very bottom of the page and you have to scroll down to see it. (also, it is not available in the initial screen menu or the in-game screen menu.)

I think the trick for most people is noticing there is a second page of game settings AND that you have to scroll to the bottom of that page for the setting.

[danhammer]

is the ps3 demo up for downloading now?

[DagsJT]

It feels like your kicking a beach ball sometimes. Even the sound of it sounds like a plastic ball.Players just seem floaty and the ball on their feet doesn't feel heavy when dribbling, running or shooting.Long balls still seem floaty on shots and I still don't feel that players have their own weights in terms of attributes as they do in PES.

Played about 4-5 games now and I have to agree with the above points. The players don't feel heavy at all, nor does the ball. It feels like I'm controlling feathers, everything just floats around and it's almost like skating.

Where 08 was sluggish, it felt like the players were heavy because of this, I think 09 has gone too far towards the opposite and now it just feels a tad too light.

Other than that, I have to say I'm REALLY impressed :DD The shot power feels much better overall, the AI is much better, graphics look tidier, and it just plays better than Euro did (even with the floatiness). Goalies are FAR improved too, I don't think I've seen a GK punch the ball away before the 09 demo, that was pretty neat.

I'm still trying to get used to which button is slide and which is press, so I've commited a few fouls by accident and got straight reds :LOL:

Have to say I've also been really impressed with misplaced passes! The CPU is hitting long balls and they're not going DIRECT to their player anymore :DD Same with goalkicks, seen many times where neither player wins the ball. Great job :DD

I've tried the normal speed and slow speed too, for some reason they seemed the same. Maybe what Jonney posted is right about the PS3 version?

[SPMC]

i actually like the broadcast camera with the angle all the way down, with a little bit of zoom in.
this game is definitely better than FIFA08, and i had been playing FIFA08 regularly up to this day!
i might keep playing it, only because this 09 demo is too short!
and to think, i used to hate FIFA08 the first month i had it.

[WEtongelre]

Played 10 times.

- Player models! FIFA 08 looks so realistic. This is the same as EURO which is wrong for me.

[DagsJT]

DS screens

http://kotaku.com/5048723/gallery-fifa-09-ds-screens

Looks pretty impressive!

[pboreham]

Quite like it so far - but the ball is far too floaty - if you shoot (by accident) from the half way line, the ball just keeps on rising past the end of the pitch! Thats a let down...

Other than that, it feels pretty good.

Oh and dags, I know what you mean about slides, but did you know you can change the controller config for attacking and defending independantly? So I mapped the exact same controls I use for PES and its much better...

[DagsJT]

Quite like it so far - but the ball is far too floaty - if you shoot (by accident) from the half way line, the ball just keeps on rising past the end of the pitch! Thats a let down...

Other than that, it feels pretty good.

Oh and dags, I know what you mean about slides, but did you know you can change the controller config for attacking and defending independantly? So I mapped the exact same controls I use for PES and its much better...

Yep, I haven't played a footy game for months and I just get confused between the two buttons :LOL: I'll be fine again after a few games. Looking forward to getting home and giving it a few more games :w00t:

[kobashi]

DS screens

http://kotaku.com/5048723/gallery-fifa-09-ds-screens

Looks pretty impressive!

DS version has Be A Pro mode also.

http://uk.ds.ign.com/articles/909/909214p1.html

[winston]

This demo is brilliant. Physics in this game are a full generation over PES, as are the animations and control depth.

Anyone can criticize the game, because it has (and we will discover more in thime) its own flaws.


Played a few games in the early morning and was also really impressed. As someone else said, this is what PES should have been by now.

Physics - when I first played it, it still has that FIFA "not quite 100% right", but once I'd played a match or two, it felt absolutely fine. I can see why that first impression will affect some people's views, and my view is that it's still not 100%, but you quickly get used to it and it is certainly hugely superior to PES, which seems to be getting less realistic.

Manual passing seems better to use that FIFA08. 2 problems with manual passing I've noticed already:

1) the pass-guage, even if you just tap it as soft as you can, the ball often scritps at normal speed to the nearest team-mate...especially if playing around the back-4, I just couldn't get it to under hit a pass.

2) your team-mates still have this occassional "blindness" to manual passes towards them. I've already had 3 separate occassions where I broke into the box at an angle, teased the keeper out towards me and them played the perfect ball across in front of an open goal to my team-mate, but the ball just goes right past/through him, which brings me to another unfixed problem...played swtiching (incidentally, I've also scored plenty of goals in the above situation, so it's not a problem all the time).

They said they'd improved player-switiching but for me, it is exactly the same hit and miss stuff as in 08. I play on full manual and sometimes, I have to click through 3 or 4 players before I get control of the guy you want (yes, I'm using the analogue stick as well and it is no better).

I also already see cpu cheats so I don't see me playing against cpu very often, although be-a-pro career mode might have me playing.

Defending is thankfully back in the game. I find I win many defensive headers (even from corners!!) and I can actually get in close and jostle/tackle cpu players. This is a critical improvement over Euro08.

AI team plays some nice stuff. I see variety in styles, I see them makes mistakes, mis-judge bounces of ball, misplace passes, overhit passes, get caught out of position, show signs of defensive uncertainty, etc. I've yet to see them mis-kick a single clearance from around their own box...every kick , even if they are facing their own goal, is perfect, instantaneous 180 spin and clean kick right up the park. Still, best AI I've seen.

Tactical options are now superb. The extra options for assigning custom tactics to the d-pad is exactly what was required. Great stuff! I tries setting it to long-ball and I'm sure it resulted in guys clustering around my big striker, looking for flick-ons. Will try this out more today. Can't wait to try out the full set of sliders in the full version.

Shooting now feels nice and firm, much improved over the loopy, floaty shots of 08. The nets move beautifully and scoring is a joy. However, still sometimes get that annoying thing where if you break into the box, the game scripts is that you cannot break the animations and shoot, which allows the keeper to dive out and claim the ball. It happens endlessly in 08 5v5, and it;s still there. Too bad.

Skills now lovely to perform in-game. They certainly don't always come off but it looks so slick when they do. Took Ronaldinho on an amazing run past about 5 before the final defender got in a last gasp slide.


Still a lack of individual feel for most players. OK, some are distinctive (eg Drogba clearly more powerful and good in air), but most jsut seem like generic players. I hope they work on this for FIFA10. All AI players seem to have identical abilities.

At least the player faces now look slightly more human, less like they're made of clay by a bad artist.

The game does so many things right. Manual cameras, great replay options, great tactics, great gameplay, so many options, teams, fantastic on-line modes.

Real progress has been made. Best footy game to date. Let's hope they keep it up for FIFA2010.

[Slobber]

I may get the Wii version instead if the controls work out. This game just cries out for the Wiimote pointer. Good shit on the 360 though, but not quite sure if it's a buy from me.

[jasebro]

Well I'll add my thoughts as a lifelong PES player...

I have been playing PES for about 9 years now, and even though I tried Fifa a few times over that period, it never felt 'right'.

I stuck with PES with it's crappy online and non existent licenses purely because the gameplay was just spot on. Now this year before the two games came out I thought I would give Fifa another go, and glad I did.

I bought Fifa 08 a month ago and have to say it is a vast improvement over my other ones I have played before. It did still feel heavy compared to PES and a bit sluggish, but on the whole is pretty good, especially online which compared to PES is brilliant.

Now after playing the 09 demo, I think FIFA have got it right in terms of gameplay. Graphics are crisp and look realistic, the ball physics feel very real, response of the players is just right and I really feel like I am watching a prem game whilst playing, which for me is what I am looking for.

It has taken all the best bits of both PES and FIFA into one game and balanced it out nicely - I'm definately converted and will be pre ordering today.

As for PES, I will wait until after release (which is a first for me)
and see what peoples opinions are...cause I will bet anyone a million quid that even though the gameplay will be great, the online will be absolute laggy crap, which in this day and age is unforgivable.

[RockyJJP]

FIFA 09 Juggling Skills Tutorial

http://www.sweetpatch.tv/index.cfm?articleid=2985

That video is incredible.
It says check out the advanced skills tutorial at the end of the video. Does anyone know where we can find that?

[Nick Cave]

Can't believe it's still not up for us poor Europeans, it'is a good job it's easy to set up a US account...

[Nick Cave]

I have not noticed the "too much curve" on FK's? If you watch the game now they get massive bend and power together with the new balls...

[DagsJT]

I've barely had any FK's where I can shoot anyway :LOL:

Good to see the CPU fouls though :TU:

[Cammey]

Don't forget it is a DEMO!!!!!!

At least EA give us a chance to get hands on with the game before release, unlike the fishy one.

It may not be the finished product.

If this was PES all the fanboys would be saying "It's an early build, wait for the real thing."

[DagsJT]

If this was PES all the fanboys would be saying "It's an early build, what for the real thing."

:LOL: Good point ;))

[Androctonvs]

you can practise freekicks on the arena. just press right or left on the D-PAD.

Anyway, those DS screens are so unimpressive... rubbish console indeed.

FIFA09 plays nice. Already pre-ordered.

[kobashi]

...

very good mini-review..

[evacuate]

Do the CPU still never to any tricks at all? Anyone seen it do step overs or something that is not just a turn that looks fancy because of high attributes?

[DagsJT]

I didn't see the CPU try tricks, nope.

[danhammer]

how comes euro psn hasn't got the demo up yet?

[vondave]

YouTube - Fifa 09 Backspin penalty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IBpJErj2IE)

My penalty!!! Goes in and bounces out

[Placebo]

I still don't like the style of this game...

+ good IA
+ good positions
+ 1080 natif

- Aliasing on 1080 natif game (first time i see that)
- gameplay to heavy, no sharp (80% why i don't like this game)
- ball physic is joke on freekick, make curve like with wind at 150m/h
- no respect for shirt, number and names on the back

Good balanced feedback Thomas.

I agree with the ball physics thing for regular freekicks, when you take power ones (with L2/LT) it seems fine, but regular (ie pressing shoot + a movement only) are way off, I already mentioned it's like a cheap plastic football, hopefully that'll be tweaked.

gameplay to heavy, no sharp I don't understand what you're trying to say there so cannot agree nor disagree? :THINK:

As for numbers/names whilst I agree it would be nice that every single shirt had the 100% authentic name/numbers I personally don't consider it remotely important, as long as they have a number and a name I'm happy with that, if that's one of the best things to complain about we're all in for a very special game :)

[chriscrocker]

Ok guys I've been playing the demo last night and giving it a fairly harsh examination. I have to say, I'm impressed. Incredibly frustrating that it's only two minute halves though.

Having not played any FIFA's for years I was very skeptical that they would finally have the blend right but it seems they've got it locked down. The games flow fantastically and look like real life, the graphics, ui, presentation and atmosphere are naturally, second to none.

What has impressed me most is how quickly I have been able to become naturalised to the game style and (slow) speed, as well as semi-assisted controls. I have not tried full manual as of yet.

Everything you would expect from a next-gen game is there and I have to say judging on this evidence, PES doesn't have a hope in hell of ever re-gaining "the crown".

Going to play some more today but I hardly have any complaints. I am loving the challenge of it and the difficulty of mastering even the basics such as tackling and shooting.

I'm having real troubles with long shots as they seem to go over too much. Also it's physically impossible to go round the keeper as they seem super human and can take the ball every time.

[Cammey]

What I find funny is all the PES boys opening there reviews with...

"Having not played a Fifa game for years"

In that case how can you say PES 2008 was better than Fifa 08. :LOL:

[Trance_Allstar]

YouTube - Fifa 09 Backspin penalty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IBpJErj2IE)

My penalty!!! Goes in and bounces out


Nice, cheers for the effort in uploading it. :)

[vondave]

Thr missus took it whilst I controlled the ingame camera. I thought it was pretty sweet.

[Nick Cave]

how comes euro psn hasn't got the demo up yet?
Dan have you set up a US account it's a doddle, and quick download...

[evacuate]

I didn't see the CPU try tricks, nope.

:CRY:

[vondave]

the goal that is, not her helping me video a game!

[Nick Cave]

I didn't see the CPU try tricks, nope.
I have not noticed any either, I wonder if EA are taking feedback or can do anything with it given the late stage?...

[Placebo]

I've seen feints and flicks over the head, think I've also seen a 360 spin, but I could be remembering things wrongly!

[Nick Cave]

Forgive the post in both PES and FIFA forums I have altered this slightly for the FIFA forum and could not be bothered to retype it all, too lazy...

Konami are the masters of shooting themselves in the foot, I still maintain they need a new HOD and team. Just over 36 months ago they were market leaders by some way with a product that on paper should have been far inferior, no licences and no real league structure not to mention budgets. But then they almost stopped all development and even started removing elements while still trying to make umpteen differing variations and incarnations.

Until finally culminating in an almost unplayable, ill conceived and poorly presented debacle that was 2008. SB then came out saying it was forced on them to release by Konami. I hold my hands up to being a massive PES over FIFA any day fan until 2008 and I still maintain if I could have solved the PS3 epilepsy inducing, eye bleeding judder, I would still be. Because of that me and my mate decided to give FIFA a month of intensive play to see if we could ever convert, being a hater of the ML meant instant joy at being able to have the full league structure and of course all the eye candy helped.

And so a year on and we are still playing 08 and looking forward to both 09 and 2009. I'm not counting either title out until I have at least a few hours play with each full title under my belt, anyone who thinks they can judge either final product from the tiny demo's we are given is either being naive or just plain puerile...
Though I have a feeling unless 2009 delivers in a big way I will find it hard to go back to the joke that is the ML...

[Jamie LUFC]

Just had something really cool happen.

Toronto v Chelsea, I was Chelsea .

Toronto started the game as a 4-4-2, after a scruffy battle they took the lead in the 69th minute. They then made a sub and brought Dichio off for a defender. They then switched their formation from 4-4-2 to 5-4-1 and sat back deeper and deeper to protect their lead.

Now maybe im just being thick but, Ive never seen the CPU AI change their formation and system so blatently before. I've seen teams become a little more direct etc in FIFA 08 but this was just brilliant and really gives the single player mode more balance.

I'm a huge manager mode player and this year could be just brilliant, if the AI reacts to situations on the pitch.

Marvelous.

[kobashi]

Yeah thats one thing we have all be crying out for so thats good news!

[DagsJT]

I've seen the AI make subs and change tactics to suit the situation too. Something that should've been in games for years really, but it's great to see it :))

Manager Mode should be pretty good this year with the AI seemingly improved so much!

[ThomasGOAL]

Good balanced feedback Thomas.

I agree with the ball physics thing for regular freekicks, when you take power ones (with L2/LT) it seems fine, but regular (ie pressing shoot + a movement only) are way off, I already mentioned it's like a cheap plastic football, hopefully that'll be tweaked.

gameplay to heavy, no sharp I don't understand what you're trying to say there so cannot agree nor disagree? :THINK:

As for numbers/names whilst I agree it would be nice that every single shirt had the 100% authentic name/numbers I personally don't consider it remotely important, as long as they have a number and a name I'm happy with that, if that's one of the best things to complain about we're all in for a very special game :)

Thanks Placebo and Bagerman to respect my little preview from PS3 demo.
About the gameplay it's a different feeling than PES, heavy for time reaction (player turn, crossing, shooting), no sharp because i almost never play with the L3 and isn't sharp for a football game FOR ME. I don't like the defaut camera too, i try with a friends later today a 1 vs 1 with d-pad and different camera view. But i repeat the IA and players position are very realistic.

[BobbyBox]

Are we able to play with our own camera settings online? Is this possible?

Because I have made my ideal one with the custom Camera and I want to use it!!!!

[SJP76]

Is demo on EU PSN Store now? Can somebody confirm as I've read on another site that it is. I will pop home lunchtime and start downloading if it is.

Had a quick scroll up through this thread and didn't see anybody saying it's out yet.

Thanks.

[evacuate]

I've seen feints and flicks over the head, think I've also seen a 360 spin, but I could be remembering things wrongly!

I hope the 360 spin is correct in your memory! Because feints and flick over head could be accomplished without the trick stick. I'm sceptic about it though. I just don't understand how they can leave this out. It's ok for online players but against AI it removes a big part of football to me. I mean it doesn't matter how crappy teams are, pretty much every match in real life has some step overs or rolling ball under foot and so on.

If I'm plying against ronny or ibra I want them to sometimes try shit out like in real life. If it's not in now it has to be in 2010.

[BillyBoy]

See. Why cant we all be happy? :)

[*** Nomis1 ***]

Is demo on EU PSN Store now? Can somebody confirm as I've read on another site that it is. I will pop home lunchtime and start downloading if it is.

Had a quick scroll up through this thread and didn't see anybody saying it's out yet.

Thanks.


YES it is.

[beachryan]

Haven't manged to play much yet, but my two biggest gripes seem much improved:
1. Shooting goes where you try to put it, and keepers can't save every shot from certain angles (though this hasn't been tested yet in manager mode obviously, where things tend to get worse)
2. Teams are different. I started playing against Chelsea and barely saw the ball, got completely overrun. Switched to playing against Toronto and I owned them (without scoring much, but still). Switched back to Chelsea and once again I was soundly beaten.

I know people are complaining players don't feel all that different, but certainly teams are stronger and weaker. I've not played enough to tell massive differences in the players, other than big slow defender versus quick skillful attacker.

[evacuate]

What time was it released on Xbox Live? Is it 24 hours exclusive to Gold members or how does it usually work with demos?

[SJP76]

YES it is.

Thank you

[Elber]

Thanks Placebo and Bagerman to respect my little preview from PS3 demo.
About the gameplay it's a different feeling than PES, heavy for time reaction (player turn, crossing, shooting), no sharp because i almost never play with the L3 and isn't sharp for a football game FOR ME. I don't like the defaut camera too, i try with a friends later today a 1 vs 1 with d-pad and different camera view. But i repeat the IA and players position are very realistic.

Even Thomas is loosing SOME good words. This game has to be great :D

[juju123]

Hi,

Players can get a penalty with keeper fouls ??

[Coopz]

1 thing that was doin my nut in with the demo is the amount of cards given but then i realised slide tackling should only be used as a last resort or when you 100% gonna win the ball.

So i need to stop doing it :LOL:

[DagsJT]

I REALLY wish they gave us more than 2 mins each half though! The game speed is great, I love being able to build a play from the back and knock the ball around, but by the time I get to their goal, the half has finished! :((

Can't wait for the full game :DD

[sweetkilla]

Do the CPU still never to any tricks at all? Anyone seen it do step overs or something that is not just a turn that looks fancy because of high attributes?

I haven't seen them do any normal skill moves we can do but I have a seen alot of ronaldo chop like passes trivela's and a load of backheels from the cpu

[winston]

You can add some lovely dip and swerve from corners now. They've definitely enhanced this from 08.

Some truly spectacular passages of play now possible with the excellent deflection physics, nice bouncy ball which feels more free than last year, and the improved response times help immensely. The game is more physical....something it had always previously lacked. Some terrific midfield scraps and defensive melees.

The last gasp out-stretched legs are great, the headers hugely improved. Getting loads of little headed flick-ons in midfield...long-ball game can actually be made to work :).

I actually managed, for the first time since I converted to FIFA, dummy the keeper and take it past him and slot it home...in good ole PES style.

The basic gameplay is deep. So much is now possible. Dribbling, possession, one-touch football, long-ball, midfield battles, ariel battles, wing-play, defensive play...it's all there, and all with freedom rather than a system which relies on a scripted ball.

I'm also starting to notice more individuality in some players. You definitely know when you're controlling Kaka or Ronaldinho. They have far more skill and agility. They even look like them from a distance, which is gratifying. And yes, Toronto are easy to own compared with some other teams....seems the weaker team AI logic has been corrected after all.

It has it's flaws but it's great to see what they've done and will hopefully continue to do for years to come.

I just hope the on-line play retains this feeling. I have this nagging feeling that the first 10v10 game that I start up, the ref will blow his whistle to kick off and PAUSE!!...and we all have to wait 30 seconds. Please let them have fixed all the on-line irritations.

[Coopz]

I saw the best ever save on a computer game last night

A cross came in and Drogba rose from 8 yards and hit a bullet header. The keeper did this awesome reaction save that looked so real to tip it over the bar

Oh yeah the heading looks brilliant now as well and the jostling before hand

[Scutch]

Are the in game physics improved, such as being able to actually dribble and run past players now? It was highly frustrating in the other FIFA series games.

[DagsJT]

That's a good point, stretching to get a tackle or header in is brilliant. I keep forgetting to do it though, I've gotten used to accepting I can't get to the ball and then realise I can do a last-ditch attempt :DD

I also like how the ball is much more free and does now feel like an individual component as opposed to some magnetic pinball which it's felt like at times.

Really is much improved :TU:

[Placebo]

You can add some lovely dip and swerve from corners now. They've definitely enhanced this from 08.


And the thing I like now is that the keeper is not perfect dealing with corners, in Fifa08 if you put your corner anywhere near the keeper, even if there's loads of pace on it he'll catch it perfectly with his magic hands, now he's a bit more like Paul Robinson when dealing with corners ;)

[DagsJT]

I saw the best ever save on a computer game last night

A cross came in and Drogba rose from 8 yards and hit a bullet header. The keeper did this awesome reaction save that looked so real to tip it over the bar

I saw the best ever header earlier. Cross in from the right for Chelsea, I'm well confident of heading the ball out, Joe Cole powered a header in from around 15 yards out and the ball FLEW into the top corner, no chance for the keeper.

[Placebo]

I scored a first time rocket with Ballack from 35 yards yesterday, I was playing 2 player versus myself so it doesn't count but it looked incredible :)

[Coopz]

That's a good point, stretching to get a tackle or header in is brilliant. I keep forgetting to do it though, I've gotten used to accepting I can't get to the ball and then realise I can do a last-ditch attempt :DD

I also like how the ball is much more free and does now feel like an individual component as opposed to some magnetic pinball which it's felt like at times.

Really is much improved :TU:

like this :))

Dailymotion - Last ditch tackle fifa 09, a video from Coopz08. last, ditch, tackle, fifa (http://www.dailymotion.com/coopz08/video/x6q55g_last-ditch-tackle-fifa-09_videogames)

[Blaccat]

Hi,

Players can get a penalty with keeper fouls ??
Yup, got one yesterday....Casilas on Ronaldinho

[DagsJT]

like this :))

Dailymotion - Last ditch tackle fifa 09, a video from Coopz08. last, ditch, tackle, fifa (http://www.dailymotion.com/coopz08/video/x6q55g_last-ditch-tackle-fifa-09_videogames)

Great ball over the top, and great tackle :TU:

[Clockender]

I saw the best ever save on a computer game last night

A cross came in and Drogba rose from 8 yards and hit a bullet header. The keeper did this awesome reaction save that looked so real to tip it over the bar

Oh yeah the heading looks brilliant now as well and the jostling before hand

I like the sound of this...I mean when have you ever seen a keeper tip the ball over the bar in PES? Exactly...never.

[winston]

Are the in game physics improved, such as being able to actually dribble and run past players now? It was highly frustrating in the other FIFA series games.


Yes, with the best players, you can waltz through challenges. You can also use the tricks more effectively now.

However, don't worry...not all players are suddenly dribble-kings with endless tricks, only the better ones.

Dribbling is now definitely now a viable part of the game.

[ash]

How do you set team mentality to All Out Attack?

[Placebo]

Yup, got one yesterday....Casilas on Ronaldinho

Rumour is no red cards for keeper fouls in the demo :(

[sweetkilla]

Skill moves are not as effective imo at all.

I usually try and waltz past players with just the analog now before I used to be a lane change whore

[sweetkilla]

How do you set team mentality to All Out Attack?

aim right with the dpad

and left for all out defence :)

[Placebo]

How do you set team mentality to All Out Attack?

It's called ultra offensive and is right on the dpad 3 times I think.......

[Blaccat]

No offside track in quick tactics, thats just stupid

Hopefully in the full game

[Cammey]

2 minute halves are bloody annoying I feel like I am always on edge waiting for the whistle. :DD

[Scorpio]

This game is amazing!

So long we've wanted to have the great gameplay like previous PES (PS2) games and the liscenses, music, atmosphere from the Fifa games.

And now ladies and gentlemen... our dreams have come true!

[Androctonvs]

everyone,"i" got a treat for use.

try and use the telecam with maximum zoom.

tada!!! PS2's PES wide cam :D

[chriscrocker]

Yeh they should have made it one half of five minutes imo. The flow gets broken up far too often meaning you can't get the feeling of a proper match. Also, the cut scene on substitutions is annoying, and why the AI is making three substitutions in the space of sixty seconds I have no idea, they should have just cut AI subs from a demo with such short halves.

My feeling at the moment is that at times I have complete control and the game does exactly what I want yet at other times it's completely random, but I suspect that is because I am more or less a complete noob at this.

Are there any guides/tips topics on here? It would be nice to know the differences between Pro/FIFA controls wise because I notice if you press finesse during the power bar it doesn't work you have to do it before you shoot which is a bit annoying. Also player switching is taking a bit of getting used to.

This is easily the best football game ever made though. My jaw dropped when I saw Drogba run offside and check his run to try and stay onside only to get caught marginally off. Just that effort makes it a MILLION times better, compared to Pro when you will have a player just aimlessly wandering around in no mans land for no reason whatsoever.

[Scutch]

I've just watched that Skills tutorial video clip - bloody hell!!

Trying to do that stuff in-game would be difficult, but the fact that the features are there gives the game even more depth and fun. Amazing vid. Loved the mid air flip-flap and the goal at the end.

[74ND4 8E42]

one of my favorite things is the position haggling you can do for headers when a ball is in the air. you can move your player up against an opponent and shove him off the spot a little bit. i always hated how in (all) games past the ball would go up and both you and opponents would be ushered to a specific position....

[Scorpio]

People with the slowdowns on PS3 need to listen up. If you have the US demo delete it and download the european one. You'd think they are the same but they're not (hence the language option...).

No more stutters and even more crisper gameplay.

Scorp1o at your service.

[Blaccat]

Rumour is no red cards for keeper fouls in the demo :(
Apparently bcos he got a yellow, and it was clearly a red card offense

[DagsJT]

People with the slowdowns on PS3 need to listen up. If you have the US demo delete it and download the european one. You'd think they are the same but they're not (hence the language option...).

No more stutters and even more crisper gameplay.

Scorp1o at your service.

I was wondering last night if the NTSC version would run differently to the PAL version.

[ajaxforever]

New Screenshots!

Link (http://www.gamersyde.com/news_7095_en.html)

:w00t:

[kevano22]

I love the fact how many ways you can control the ball. You can slow it down holding the pace control, meaning your player is able to manouver more free and quickly in tight spaces. Then you can use the sprint button when not moving to shield the ball and roll it over your foot. Then from in there you can do skills to feint or roll it another way. Then you can use the movement on its own with no buttons pressed. Then you can also use the run button to move, you'll be less agile but run at faster speeds. Then you can also knock the ball on with the right analogue stick.

All these ways mean there is so many different ways to play which makes it amazing to combine between things. Especially with the ability to let the ball run on, or through your legs.

I think I will actually be able to start a manager mode too because the CPU AI isnt as invicible as it was in 08!

Bring it on.

EDIT: Also, I just forgot to mention the "streching for ball" thing. In euro 08 I thought they did it FAR too often. They seem to have nailed it brilliantly in this. You cant stretch for EVERY possible ball, just the ones were you have a realistic chance of getting it.

This goes for when the ball is going out of play as well, things like this can turn a bad ball into attack in an instant...

YouTube - ashely cole nice touch (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9d-Pv6EOZ5M)

[Jamie LUFC]

everyone,"i" got a treat for use.

try and use the telecam with maximum zoom.

tada!!! PS2's PES wide cam :D

Someone pinch me, has Christmas come early?

It's Friday afternoon, im allowed to be sarcastic :TWIST:

[Coopz]

My jaw dropped when I saw Drogba run offside and check his run to try and stay onside only to get caught marginally off.

Yeah i forgot to mention this

It happened to me yesterday as well while i was playing a mate and we were very very surprised by it

Im seeing loads of this like this from little flick passes to a diving header back to the keeper so he can pick it up :LOL:

I really cant believe a football game actually does what you would want to do in real life. I mean how many times have you seen a defender diving head the ball back to the keeper in a computer game when that's what you would do in real life or stretch/slide to keep the ball in? I saw him kick a bouncing ball over his head to try and keep in it as well and i have also seen them attempt it and miss the ball

They just seem very clever and do the right stuff most of the time. Even if my header ect didn't make it at least he had the idea to do it in the first place

It really is an awesome game

[winston]

My feeling at the moment is that at times I have complete control and the game does exactly what I want yet at other times it's completely random

This is easily the best football game ever made though. My jaw dropped when I saw Drogba run offside and check his run to try and stay onside only to get caught marginally off.

Yup, at times it's sublime but whilst I wouldn't say there are times it's completely random, there are times when you can feel you don't have full control (cpu cheats, in my book).

Have you tried watching a cpu v cpu match yet. It's very interesting to watch the sheer variety in each teams attempts to play football. It's not at all one dimensional, they try loads of different things.

everyone,"i" got a treat for use.

try and use the telecam with maximum zoom.

tada!!! PS2's PES wide cam :D

Broadcast cam on futherst out zoom and lowest height creates that camera swing thing from PES (where you could set angle from 1 to 9). Takes a little while to get used to actually playing with that cam (if you're playing on full manual passing, shooting), but it looks sweet.


CPU team did something nice. They got a corner and had left a guy loitering on the corner of the 18 yard box. I thought "the cpu never passes to this guy" so started to move my defender away from him towards the central area of the box. But they immediately took a quick corner to him, he dinked in a sweet little chipped cross which they got a header to, but my leeper tipped it round the post. It felt like I was playing agsinst a human.

[Nick Cave]

Just deleted the US and down loading UK, sooo slooow...

[The Power]

My impressions after two hours playing the demo. First of all the game is much better as fifa 08.

Pro:

+ custom control
+ ball physics much better. Only freekicks looks very strange.
+ Dribbling and shoting much better
+ you can feel the difference between the players (balance,speed,..)

Contra:

- If you play on normal speed setting the game ist tooooo fast. On low setting it feels more realistic..but for me a little bit to fast. I hope i can choose the gameplay speed online.
- The shoting bar is to fast.
- the shoting is to easy and to accucary. Yes i can choose manual shoting settings,but where is the advantage? It is only more difficult...
- the passing to easy and to accucary.

The game feels like football kingdom. :SS

[Chris Davies]

- the shoting is to easy and to accucary. Yes i can choose manual shoting settings,but where is the advantage? It is only more difficult...
You can play unranked games and lock the game to manual settings only.

If you only play for the love of the game, which a lot of us do, this is a great feature.

[winston]

I saw him kick a bouncing ball over his head to try and keep in it as well and i have also seen them attempt it and miss the ball


One of my favourite things about the AI is that they try lots of things and make a lot of mistakes.

Also, if you set the game level to beginner, the AI become pretty hopeless. Their defensive gaffs make me laugh.

[Scutch]

Crikey. Reading into all this, I'm actually inclined to believe that Fifa will outshine PES this year. [/shock]

[The Stag]

I love the demo, it's amazing.for the most part it is much better than fifa 08, i just wish i could shoot and score a cracker!