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Igrok96
28 April 05, 04:27
I have searched the forums and haven't found any answers to this question so I hope someone can give me some feedback.
What is the correct technique for performing a free kick (shot on goal)? I can't ever get consistent results. When the free kick is less than 30m I press the square button until the power bar is near the middle and sometimes it goes too high, others it hits the wall, and rarely it goes in. If the free kick is beyond 24m I can't get any power on it. If I hold R1 but then the ball blazes over.
How do you guys score? Tap square? Hold?
I appreciate the help.
Golden Go@l
28 April 05, 04:54
I also cannot get any consistency with free kicks. I believe that pressing up while shooting generates the most power. Pressing R1 is a slightly less powerful shot. And pressing R2 while shooting is a even less powerful, more floaty shot, that curves more. I've also read on other forums that after pressing square to shoot, pressing X when the screen zooms back out, helps the ball clear the wall. Can anyone confirm if this is true? I prefer to tap square, because it is easier to control meter. One tap fills up 1/4 guage, 2 taps 1/2, etc. You can also control the balls flight, either left or right, by tapping the d-pad (much easier than using control stick) after shooting, when the screen zooms out. Tapping once or twice is sufficient. As far as general rules for different distances, I've heard differing opinions, so I don't know. Then, you have to factor in the skill level of various free kickers, lol! Try the free kick option in training mode with a few free kickers using up for longer shots, R1 for mid range, and R2 for shorter shots (18m or closer). :)
Feel free to ask for more specifics. Maybe I can help.
Igrok96
28 April 05, 05:09
Thanks for the info. I have tried tapping square with some success. I am hoping someone can confirm some of the details you posted. Is it possible to score every time if you have the technique right or is it some skill and some luck?
Golden Go@l
28 April 05, 05:16
Thanks for the info. I have tried tapping square with some success. I am hoping someone can confirm some of the details you posted. Is it possible to score every time if you have the technique right or is it some skill and some luck?
It would be hard to find out, if using the same exact technique mutiple times would result in many goals, considering all the variables. Its hard to line up the ball in the exact spot repeatedly, and then fill the power meter the same amount. And I don't know if Konami factored in real life inconsistencies. :)
Igrok96
28 April 05, 05:20
What about in practice mode? That's how I found out that I have no free kick skills. I tried many times from the same spot trying to find something that works. Maybe someone who scores from free kicks often can help us out.
Golden Go@l
28 April 05, 05:52
As far as I can tell the difference between scoring and barely missing is miniscule. You would swear that both shots were identical - same power, angle, etc. I've been looking on Evo Web for a diagram someone posted showing where to line up ball, using 30m as an example, but to no avail. Could have sworn it was here. :(
Im still using the layoff and shoot technique! So far so good for me!
Placebo
28 April 05, 14:47
If Vic Mackey played football he'd simply run through the wall and put the ball into the net ;)
Remember the scene where the perp climbed over a wooden fence and he just ran through it? Damn I loved that :)
Igrok96
29 April 05, 00:14
Thanks guys for your input. We still have no real answers. Doesn't anybody else here ever score directly from free kicks and could share their technique? Much appreciated.
If Vic Mackey played football he'd simply run through the wall and put the ball into the net ;)
Remember the scene where the perp climbed over a wooden fence and he just ran through it? Damn I loved that :)
I liked when a perp was trying to go over a fence and Vic tossed him the rest of the way over feet up in the air.
nike121
29 April 05, 05:17
i scored about 4-6 goals with simon davies from spurs in my ML (im only in midway of the 1st season.
my tactic is to just shoot away from the keeper. Lets say i got fouled on the outside of the box, this is perfect as its not hard to score but not easy to always do it...
what i do is aim away from the keeper but not all the way to the otherside somewhere in between the post and the middle of the goal..
POST...........AIM...........MIDDLE OF GOAL.........KEEPER.........POST
and then never shoot to the middle of the bar ...TAKE NOT I DO NOT USE ANY r1 or ANYTHING I JUST USE SQUARE and still score ;)
lets say this is the bar
-----------1-----------
you do somewhere liek
-------*---1-----------
or a little more but not touching the middle line.
as soon as he kicks the ball i move the Dpad down or down left or down right.
lets say i take the above example
POST...........AIM...........MIDDLE OF GOAL.........KEEPER.........POST
with this i would hold DOWN-RIGHT so the ball bends slightly and goes straight in the back of the net.
this works sometimes for me and its wonderful, but yes the game doesnt let you always score directly.
Placebo
29 April 05, 07:24
I liked when a perp was trying to go over a fence and Vic tossed him the rest of the way over feet up in the air.
LOL yeah that was one of the first eps of season 4? That made me laugh as well, then they cut to him being in a cell and his face is all messed up :)
steel_ps2
29 April 05, 07:52
well........i have mostly sscored shot at the opposite....side of the wall....with using a player good @ curling the power and has a good power @ shooting..........the goal looks amazing when watching the GOALIE doing nothing !
I hate free kicks.
Everyone in my play group has a problem that noone else seems to on Pro Evo 4, WE8 and WE8LE.
If the free kick is being taken by a left footer then the ball will just loop straight up in air with hardly any power and just drop really short of the goal.
I tried using left footers in free training and it was fine, only happens in ganes. Agh!!!!!
When taking free kicks.... You have to TRY and get it with one tap... if u do a double tap and land in the middle chances are the shot will go over the bar.... If your taking fk from very very close up... You might wanna double tap and hold back on the d-pad..... also dont go half way go about 3/4 of the way.... curling is up to you.... it all depends on the angle and the player your shooting with...... Henry for example has more power than lets say Beckham..... so shooting fk with henry you would have to use less power but more accuracy.... Meanwhile with beckham u can aim in the middle but u have to use more power since his curl is really high........
If you see 3 guys on the wall i suggest you hold up because this adds more power... if its 4 on the wall chances are u dont need that much power so i would just try to shoot and curl away from the goalie........ aim in between the keeper and the post and curl away.... again this all depends on who your taking the free kick with.....
LOL yeah that was one of the first eps of season 4? That made me laugh as well, then they cut to him being in a cell and his face is all messed up :)
how this has gone from freekicks to the shield? but anyhow season 4 hasnt aired in the uk yet! how many eps are you up to?
can someone post what each button is doing first of all so we can have that clear before moving o technique. what is R1, R2 etc doing. How about up and down...?
Golden Go@l
3 May 05, 07:00
Has anyone scored by pressing down and circle with full power? It is a grounder with medium power. I discovered it by accident. Sometimes ball will go beneath wall if they jump.
how can i do that when i press the select button..and another player stands next to ball.,what do i do next that he will step on the ball or something?
how can i do that when i press the select button..and another player stands next to ball.,what do i do next that he will step on the ball or something?
You have to press R3 to make him touch the ball and shoot whit the firts player or is you whant the second player make the shoot I think you have to hold L1 or R1 and then press [ ] or O
That its
Yeah, I was playing against Russia last night and they did that: one player (on a direct free kick) just nugded it forward for Smertin i think to stride onto it and whack it. I didn't know that was in the game! I'll try the tapping R3 thing.
nedostizni
10 May 05, 19:31
hm, no there are no problems with you guys, the japs realy blow the thing down with the freek kicks this time.
I haven`t played LE, but if it is like on WE8 and PES4 than it is the disaster.
The problem is definetly the efe. On all last version there was the rule that holding the R1 and the d-pad side (left or result) with appropiate foot kicker - let`s you do the free kick smoothly. But this time it is not the case. For some reason if you move while aiming left or right a bit, the ball will go in completly other direction then you told it where to go. I can`t explain it like this, by words, will take some screenshot to do that.
The god thing is usig the circel button, and using the select, R3 and low ground shot wich when the ball is close to the box result in a goal (the keeper is just watching it how the ball enters to the goal)but ther rest is a completly mess, wich has never been the case since the first ISS.
:r1: - add power to the shot
:r2: - take power from the shot
Up - add even more power than :r1: to the shot
Down - take even more power than :r2: from the shot
Left/Right - Curling
:square: - Normal Free Kick
:circle: - Long Pass Free Kick
There are players that can't free kick well, but can long pass well, that are able to score goals from set pieces with the Circle button. it's easier in short distances(21m-16m)because the ball almost always goes over the wall.
To long distances shots i tend to use curlers rather than power free kickers, because their shots are inaccurative, and for those shots (28m-34m)i reccommend 1 or 2 taps after the middle bar(depending on what player you're using)
for 25m-28m, i hold square to middle bar, and curl away from keeper
for 21m-25m, i use the down button on the D-pad, and or curl away from keeper or just aim where i want to shot
hope that helps somebody
ruffneckc
11 May 05, 00:50
:r1: - add power to the shot
:r2: - take power from the shot
Up - add even more power than :r1: to the shot
Down - take even more power than :r2: from the shot
Left/Right - Curling
:square: - Normal Free Kick
:circle: - Long Pass Free Kick
There are players that can't free kick well, but can long pass well, that are able to score goals from set pieces with the Circle button. it's easier in short distances(21m-16m)because the ball almost always goes over the wall.
To long distances shots i tend to use curlers rather than power free kickers, because their shots are inaccurative, and for those shots (28m-34m)i reccommend 1 or 2 taps after the middle bar(depending on what player you're using)
for 25m-28m, i hold square to middle bar, and curl away from keeper
for 21m-25m, i use the down button on the D-pad, and or curl away from keeper or just aim where i want to shot
hope that helps somebody
Excellent stuff.. thank you very much
I'm pretty sure that R1 and R2 affects the height of the shot and not the power. I mean, why would Konami have 4 different power levels PLUS a bar?
I have a way to score from very close range, let's say inside the half moon, or around it, just hold R2 and barely touch circle over the wall, that always works for me, but sometimes you might get a defender to head the ball, so you might wanna practice it first, just shoot it over the wall, tap circle, always works for me
Good stuff! Will definitely have to try it today!
nedostizni
11 May 05, 11:52
I'm pretty sure that R1 and R2 affects the height of the shot and not the power. I mean, why would Konami have 4 different power levels PLUS a bar?
yes.The R1 also effects on a better lowing down (after the ball pass the wall, it is falling faster).
you might get a defender to head the ball
exactly! This thinghaven`t been from the WE and ISS on the PSOne. I think that is the one of the bad things that were back. There is a very small chance to score a goal (to be honest i haven`t seen any of those) when your shooting the ball over the heads of the wall. The point is that you have to aim it between the heads. But now there is a other problem - you just don`t know where will the ball go after shot (in other way: the ball hits the heads, even if you didn`t set it up so). I realise that on this effects most of the things, like curling, the current "arrow" (mood) of the player... But i think that it went to far. After all this is supose to be a game, not reality. And yes, the game is tending to become a reality, but i think that in this way the things are getting just worst.
and about the power bar at the free kicks - there has ALWAYS been a rule that you need to press it by your own sense. After some time of playing, you will own an sense to know how much power should you fill in. If you take care of have you filled it to the half or the 3/4 you will do nothing. And there is another WE8/PES4/WE8LE mistake - you can`t turn off the line on the power bar wich indicates the middle. On the last version, when the "name block" are turned that line has been too. But now it isn`t the case. The line stay there. And even if you want to shoot by a your sense, you can`t do that cause the line is bottering you, and "making you" to watch out how much power have you filled in.
Guys
Pause the game and have a look at the button settings. This gives an idea to what the buttons do for free kicks.
As far as I'm concerned, R2 is used to curl the ball over the wall and R1 is used to give a more linear trajectory to the ball, which stays up longer, allowing for longer range shot.
My quick reference list to free kick:
16-20m : press down on the D-Pad + :square: up to halfway on the power bar (the better the striker's FK accuracy skills, the stronger you can shoot but never more than halway!). Straight after the shot, press left or right on the D-Pad to curl sideways.
Note that curling is minimal due to the short distance (not much more than a ball's width sideways)
20-25m: Hold :r2: + :square: up to halway on the power bar. Straight after the shot, press down + left or right on the D-Pad (depending on the direction of the curl you want to put on the ball).
The :r2: shot will curl over the wall, whilst holding down after the shot will cause the ball to dip more quickly. Note that side curling is weaker when pressing down + left or right
25-30: Hold :r1: + :square: a bit more than 1/2 of the power bar.
30+m : :r1: plus hold up the D-Pad for added power. Don't press down after the shot as you want the ball to fly for as long as possible. A left or right inside curl is a plus though quite hard to gauge because of the long distance.
i will try this thanks for information because i usually get goal from freekick just 1/10 that so bad
As far as I'm concerned, R2 is used to curl the ball over the wall and R1 is used to give a more linear trajectory to the ball, which stays up longer, allowing for longer range shot.
My quick reference list to free kick:
16-20m : press down on the D-Pad + :square: up to halfway on the power bar (the better the striker's FK accuracy skills, the stronger you can shoot but never more than halway!). Straight after the shot, press left or right on the D-Pad to curl sideways.
Note that curling is minimal due to the short distance (not much more than a ball's width sideways)
: Hold :r2: + :square: up to halway on the power bar. Straight after the shot, press down + left or right on the D-Pad (depending on the direction of the curl you want to put on the ball).
The :r2: shot will curl over the wall, whilst holding down after the shot will cause the ball to dip more quickly. Note that side curling is weaker when pressing down + left or right
25-30: Hold :r1: + :square: a bit more than 1/2 of the power bar.
30+m : :r1: plus hold up the D-Pad for added power. Don't press down after the shot as you want the ball to fly for as long as possible. A left or right inside curl is a plus though quite hard to gauge because of the long distance.
thanks for that info, defo will improve my free kick skills on 20-25m since i was using r1 for that now i learned r2 is better way , because i was wonderin why was the ball going too high and fast now i will use r2 to dip it in
yes.The R1 also effects on a better lowing down (after the ball pass the wall, it is falling faster).
exactly! This thinghaven`t been from the WE and ISS on the PSOne. I think that is the one of the bad things that were back. There is a very small chance to score a goal (to be honest i haven`t seen any of those) when your shooting the ball over the heads of the wall. The point is that you have to aim it between the heads. But now there is a other problem - you just don`t know where will the ball go after shot (in other way: the ball hits the heads, even if you didn`t set it up so). I realise that on this effects most of the things, like curling, the current "arrow" (mood) of the player... But i think that it went to far. After all this is supose to be a game, not reality. And yes, the game is tending to become a reality, but i think that in this way the things are getting just worst.
yes, the "mood" arrow affects the player's accuracy, power,bla bla bla, just like in the rest of the game, after all, it's supposed to get as close to reality as possible without taking the fun from being a video-game, the curling stat obviously affects how much curling you can put to the ball, and another thing i think nobody noticed, it's the kicking animation, for instance, beckham's animation is different from the others to look real, but in real life why does he kick like that?i may be wrong but there's all a technique inside that, IMO, he kicks that way to put more curling into the ball,and why Carlos kick like that?for more power, so i really believe the animations affect the way you free kick with certain character, i've been testing this since we7 international and my test results make me think i'm right.
of course there are 6 different Freekick animations and way of taking it I believe.
Most are set to A but we even have F if i'm not mistaken.
and Carlos, Adriano type of freekick is C I believe and it sure does affect the way you should take that freekick and how much and what to hold while doing it. and yes Beckham does stand like that for more curl ;) and if you want power you'd do what Roberto Carlos does and run up straight to the ball before giving it a big hit lol you're right but it's no rocket science ;)
What i do most is=
If the distance is short: Down+Left/right (depends on target) Power just under the half
If distance is long: up+left/right power just over half
I hate free kicks.
Everyone in my play group has a problem that noone else seems to on Pro Evo 4, WE8 and WE8LE.
If the free kick is being taken by a left footer then the ball will just loop straight up in air with hardly any power and just drop really short of the goal.
I tried using left footers in free training and it was fine, only happens in ganes. Agh!!!!!
Yeah i have had this problem quite regularly aswell, its a right pain in the ass. Mijhilovic (probably not spelled correctly) has great free kick stats but whenever i hit 1 with him he just chips it over the wall. anyone know why this is?
Yeah i have had this problem quite regularly aswell, its a right pain in the ass. Mijhilovic (probably not spelled correctly) has great free kick stats but whenever i hit 1 with him he just chips it over the wall. anyone know why this is?
What I do is, when it's a close range shot, R2 and circle over the wall, but just tap it, that'll always work, when it's a little farther out, I do R2 down and a little bit less than half with square, and as you get away from the goal, you start using R1, I hope this helps
I did score with R.Carlos & Becks styles :D
nali_karakartal
18 May 05, 20:18
As far as I'm concerned, R2 is used to curl the ball over the wall and R1 is used to give a more linear trajectory to the ball, which stays up longer, allowing for longer range shot.
My quick reference list to free kick:
16-20m : press down on the D-Pad + :square: up to halfway on the power bar (the better the striker's FK accuracy skills, the stronger you can shoot but never more than halway!). Straight after the shot, press left or right on the D-Pad to curl sideways.
Note that curling is minimal due to the short distance (not much more than a ball's width sideways)
20-25m: Hold :r2: + :square: up to halway on the power bar. Straight after the shot, press down + left or right on the D-Pad (depending on the direction of the curl you want to put on the ball).
The :r2: shot will curl over the wall, whilst holding down after the shot will cause the ball to dip more quickly. Note that side curling is weaker when pressing down + left or right
25-30: Hold :r1: + :square: a bit more than 1/2 of the power bar.
30+m : :r1: plus hold up the D-Pad for added power. Don't press down after the shot as you want the ball to fly for as long as possible. A left or right inside curl is a plus though quite hard to gauge because of the long distance.
ya arkadaslar biri bunlari türkçe yazabilirmi çünkü ben hiçbir sey anlamadim :(
I'm glad its hard to score , otherwise my mates would play for them... the diving scoundrels!
r the free kick technique in WE8LE same as WE8?
juventus11
22 May 05, 08:32
I score then seldomly.
Well, I'm pretty crap...still haven't scored one yet...
olympiacos5
24 May 05, 09:20
rivaldo and beckham are defenitely the best on free kicks!we8le rulezz!!!!cant wait for we9
rivaldo and beckham are defenitely the best on free kicks!we8le rulezz!!!!cant wait for we9
I gotta disagree on that, for me, ronaldinho and recoba are the best, i probably score 5 out of 10 with recoba, and 7 out of 10 with ronaldinho, i practice a lot and always make them
Androctonvs
25 May 05, 21:28
why is Pirlo so badly stated?
Hey guys i uploaded a lil free kick with ronaldinho, from this distance, i hold R2 and just tap circle, i guarantee you it'll go in most of the time http://rapidshare.de/files/2057547/100_0163.MOV.html
why is Pirlo so badly stated?
you mean rated?
Ok i'm posting another one with recoba, on this goal i just hold R2 and square, i didn't use the directional for nothing, just R2 and square, release square a lil bit before half, i hope it helps http://rapidshare.de/files/2057913/recoba_freekick.MOV.html
When taking Free Kick less than 25m. U can use good accuracy kicker or good curling.
For Good accuracy kicker, aim slightly inside the post, Hold R2, press shoot, release less than half the bar, hold down after shot was take to dip.
For Good Curling kicker, aim outside the post, hold R2, shoot(less than half bar) hold down+left or right depend on which kicker to curl the ball in.
For Free Kick from 25m-35m, Best to use those kicker that can curl ball and good shooting power. Aim at the keeper, Hold R1 and shoot with power(ard 60%-75% of the bar), hold up + left or right depend on kicker prefer foot. B4 the ball reach the keeper, change the direction pad to directly opposite to where u r holding or just change from left to right or the other way to do a S shot.
For 35m and above or near the sidelines, try to Cross to find clear header, use R1 + up direction + left or right for near Box Free Kick.
For 35m & above, Use R2 button with direction.
Press Cross instead of Shoot for these Free Kicks.
Corners Kicks is abt the same, R1 for nearpost, R2 for Farpost
BIG problem with WE8LE free kicks is the keepers... This version actually has more accurate free kicks than in previous versions and hits the wall less often, which is good.. HOWEVER, to compensate for that, Konami bumped up goalie's reaction to free kicks WAY too much. Even if your free kick hits the target over the wall, the keeper will STILL save it most of the time. Power seems more important in this version than in any of the previous ones I feel... since goalies have faster reaction time to free kick shots. Try England and take free kicks with Beckham... James saves most of the shots unless they are PERFECT shots. either that or... they just hit the post.
But curiously enough, they don't react well to the circle button "shot". I hate using those though, because unless you have your kicker on free kick motion of beckham, they just sort of "chip" the ball and it doesn't look like a real free kick. Nonetheless, 23m and down, shooting with circle is the better option, but you'll hit the wall or defenders lot more often.
Free kick in WE8 is really hard (just indirect FK is easy), but in WE8LE FK is as easy as WE7(i). I scored a lot now with both direct and indirect style :D
THis is what I do for WE8, I don't have LE yet...should I get it...the only reason I want it, is to play online?
As far as I'm concerned, R2 is used to curl the ball over the wall and R1 is used to give a more linear trajectory to the ball, which stays up longer, allowing for longer range shot.
My quick reference list to free kick:
16-20m : press down on the D-Pad + :square: up to halfway on the power bar (the better the striker's FK accuracy skills, the stronger you can shoot but never more than halway!). Straight after the shot, press left or right on the D-Pad to curl sideways.
Note that curling is minimal due to the short distance (not much more than a ball's width sideways)
20-25m: Hold :r2: + :square: up to halway on the power bar. Straight after the shot, press down + left or right on the D-Pad (depending on the direction of the curl you want to put on the ball).
The :r2: shot will curl over the wall, whilst holding down after the shot will cause the ball to dip more quickly. Note that side curling is weaker when pressing down + left or right
25-30: Hold :r1: + :square: a bit more than 1/2 of the power bar.
30+m : :r1: plus hold up the D-Pad for added power. Don't press down after the shot as you want the ball to fly for as long as possible. A left or right inside curl is a plus though quite hard to gauge because of the long distance.
I pretty much do this same thing, except that I don't press down. I want to make sure I get some curl on my kicks so I concentrate more on pressing left or right as the player is running up. If I am shooting from a good distance then I will press up and hold R1....this definitely gives you more power.
The power gauge really depends on the player...there is no perfect answer...typically from the edge of the box...you want half power (if trying to go over the wall - if you hit the wall its o.k. just keep trying untill you make it over...don't overpower all the time and give them goal kicks) If possible try to curl the kick over one of the shorter defenders....when playing REAL I try to aim at Roberto Carlos
My usual technique is to bend over the wall using R2 to the corner of the goal opposite the keeper. If you actually have a clear shot at the goal on either side of the wall (regardless of where the goalie is)...try taking that and hold R1 (plus up for more power) and try to keep the power under half (you'll still blast it with a powerfull kicker). Sometimes this freezes the keeper and you can blast it into one of the corners....
HAVE FUN!!!! Try different things...R3 is cool (tapping the ball forward after pressing select to bring in a second kicker) I have only scored a couple of times this way, but I haven't tried that many. Holding L1 is a favorite of mine when using 2 free kickers. When I'm on the right of goal, I like to have a left-footed kicker on the ball and hold L1, and have kicker him curl it to the right post over the wall holding R2. Every once in a while I try to roll one on the ground with down and circle...either under a jumping player or to one side of the goal as I do in my R1 technique. If I'm quite a bit out....I usually lob or pass it on the ground to a well positioned player using circle and down...Have fun..hope this helps...I'm still learning too!!! If anyone has some theories let me know....
Oh....If you really want bend us the right analog stick....but this is really an inaccurate method and you have to line up you kick the extreme opposite direction of which you want to bend. I do use this method on corner kicks once in a while....I have bent a few in for goals or own goals against my opponents. I your player has a lot of curve use R1 plus both analogs...If he doesn't have much curve, us R2 plus both analogs...
Peace..
JC
Austin, TX USA
Please let me know if this helped anyone.
Androctonvs
6 June 05, 00:08
pressing down has really improved my FKs... now i can add special power, and press down later.
Iriedog yeah i'm sure your long post did help some people. I appreciate it and that's pretty much what I do. Currently there are 4-5 choices you have on what to do when you get a FK and it's up to you and how intelligent you are to choose which you're gonna choose.
Like you said depending on who I have on my team and where the FK is located I try a variety of different things.
Sometimes even though I have a FK taker with 75 FK accuracy and 72 curling I still choose to bend it over the wall and into the other corner of the net which the GK isn't standing and it works and I score a beautiful Beckham type of FK with a player that most people usually wouldn't try the FK like that with ;)
At other times depending on how far it is, what angle it is and how much shot power and FK accuracy my player has I try different things.
For example once I had 2 relatively good FK takers in my sid both with 80 and 81 FK and curling yet I chose to take the actual shot with a DMF of mine who had 50 FK accuracy 71 shot accuracy and 87 shot POWER!!
What I did was press select to choose my normal FK taker and DMF and when everyone thinks he's gonna bend it like usual.. I press R3 to roll the ball and my DMF hits a beautiful shot relatively LOW but a HARD shot and it goes in beautifully. :)
So I like how right now we can use our imagination and have much more options than we used to. Now Konami need to do what they did with FK in WE8 with Penalties so it's not as dull as it is right now. I'm hoping PKs will somehow be different than how they are now in WE9 and we'll finally get to do a chip or somehow add another elemnt to it cuz right now it's like OLD FK quite dull but now FK are amazing you can do so much different stuff. Don't forget you can even press TRIANGLE and set a through ball around the wall to a striker who can turn and have a quick shot on goal.
Take care and i'm gonna go give that DOWN And CIRCLE a try sometimes as I always wanted to shoot LOW and HARD so if wall jumps I can have nice intelligent goal but powerbar if you give enough power also makes ball go higher and if you keep powerbar low... the shot will be rather slow as well and keeper will save.
I think one solution is to take FK or in general shots with players with really high SHOT POWER though as I noticed I can score nice hard low drives with Nedved because even if you hold powerbar a bit.. his shot is still strong enough to have possibility of going in and keeper not saving as well as of course being a low shot which I love.
Take care
Forgot to say if you press X when the power bar is filling up it gives it this nice LOOP that makes the probabilties of the ball going OVER the wall much more.
I heard about it a few months ago and first harassed the guy lol.. sayin how could this be/? It's not in manual and nobody even knows abuot it. We know down or R2 makes it slower/more loopy and R1 and UP the opposite but why would X be good. And he's like yo jus try it. After that my FK that were relatively close to box which I used to fill up till HALFWAY became much more successful because now barely any would hit the tip of the wall and more frequently I score.
Here's an example and my first time ever sharing a PES/WE video file :)
It's nothing special but just a simple FK with somebody who neither has good FK accuracy nor curling.
http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/Uploaded/PerezFk1.wmv
Forgot to say if you press X when the power bar is filling up it gives it this nice LOOP that makes the probabilties of the ball going OVER the wall much more.
I heard about it a few months ago and first harassed the guy lol.. sayin how could this be/? It's not in manual and nobody even knows abuot it. We know down or R2 makes it slower/more loopy and R1 and UP the opposite but why would X be good. And he's like yo jus try it. After that my FK that were relatively close to box which I used to fill up till HALFWAY became much more successful because now barely any would hit the tip of the wall and more frequently I score.
Here's an example and my first time ever sharing a PES/WE video file :)
It's nothing special but just a simple FK with somebody who neither has good FK accuracy nor curling.
http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/Uploaded/PerezFk1.wmv
Are you serious? You really think X lofts the ball more? I'll have to try that as well as pressing down. When do you actually press X? That's a great goal, exactly my technique from that position. That's awesome video footage. I just discovered these sites...I want to patch and all that good stuff. What system and game type do you have? What are you doing to record video. I want to make video exactly like that.
Also...from that position if you were to aim for the upper left hand side(to the left of the wall) of the goal and crack one with R1 plus up at around near half (or a little above) power, you can freeze the goalie.
Golden Go@l
7 June 05, 05:17
Forgot to say if you press X when the power bar is filling up it gives it this nice LOOP that makes the probabilties of the ball going OVER the wall much more.
I heard about it a few months ago and first harassed the guy lol.. sayin how could this be/? It's not in manual and nobody even knows abuot it. We know down or R2 makes it slower/more loopy and R1 and UP the opposite but why would X be good. And he's like yo jus try it. After that my FK that were relatively close to box which I used to fill up till HALFWAY became much more successful because now barely any would hit the tip of the wall and more frequently I score.
Here's an example and my first time ever sharing a PES/WE video file :)
It's nothing special but just a simple FK with somebody who neither has good FK accuracy nor curling.
http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/Uploaded/PerezFk1.wmv
I have also heard of using X to get a little more lift on ball to clear ball, but thought X was to be pressed AFTER shot meter has filled to desired strength, and once the camera pulls out to full field view. Wish I knew conclusively. Guess I will experiment in traing to see if I notice the difference. ;)
Yeah pressing X has made my FK success percentage much higher. I think GoldenGoal is right.. you have to press it after meter being filled to halfway or whatever you think is good enough but i dont know if late enough for when camera is showing you take it Goldie ;)
Either way I remember first time I heard it, I said such bullshit. Why would X do anything?? It's not on any site? It's not in manual and we already have buttons like R2 and DOWN to slow the freekick down and make it more lofty but I tried it anyways and ever since I notice many more goals and many more of my shots JUST clearing the wall where as before I'd do the same without pressing X and many times it'd just hit someone in the head or something.
Also it makes it go over the wall or more lofty WITHOUT taking out a lot of its speed like pressing DOWN does.
Just try it.
I have PS2 chipped and WE8LE lol.. what do you mean what system?? It's NTSC I mean.. its from Canada but that doesn't have anything to do with it.
And for recording it's a cheap TV Tuner lol I got it for like $60CDN which aint a lot. Anyways i'm a computer newb anyways, all of these are thanks to other people who recommended what I get and set up for me. I don't know shit about computers, just football ;) lol.
take care
a little hint I have to share although negative... a little "bug" Konami allowed in WE8 and WE8LE that seems a comeback to old bugs...
At 18,19 (or below) freekicks:
just aim to the distant post of the goalkeeper. Tap slightly the O button (yes, not the shoot button but the lob button) but it must be reaaaaaly slightly, just a "snif"... if you want you can also press up on D-PAD (but never down) and if aimed right it will always go in.
It's more efficient against CPU than humans, since humans can counter this by positioining a defender near the post while you get your aim right.. but if you are quick enough you can even outsmart a foreseeing oponent.
It's a shame this kind of freekick works, but it's useful in competition.
cheers,
Yeah already knew that ;) but what I didn't know was you can move players in wall? or rearrange them??
I actually read that pressing TRIANGLE when defending a freekick does something but not sure i saw anything when I did it. Can anybody clear this for me?
Golden Go@l
10 June 05, 03:32
Yeah already knew that ;) but what I didn't know was you can move players in wall? or rearrange them??
I actually read that pressing TRIANGLE when defending a freekick does something but not sure i saw anything when I did it. Can anybody clear this for me?
I don't think you can repostion players in wall, but by pressing L1 you can gain control of another player and postion him near the post or even extend the wall by one player. :)
I don't think you can repostion players in wall, but by pressing L1 you can gain control of another player and postion him near the post or even extend the wall by one player. :)
Exacly, you can pick any other defender and position him near the goal post while your oponent aims. Once he shoots (the shot performed will be well aimed but not too strong) your defender will probably be able to easely head it away.
Maybe the jumping wall technique can also do it although you can't do both at the same time so it's up to you to pick (defender on post or jumping wall).
Okay so what you're talking about is basically pressing L1 taking somebody not in wall and putting them in a useful position like beside the posts.
But what is that TRIANGLE thing do when you're defending freekick, I'm pretty sure it does something. Maybe it moves the wall a bit. Not player by player but moves it a bit towards let's say where GK is staying or something like that. Anybody know?
Androctonvs
11 June 05, 16:51
This thread rules.
So far, I've only been using the triangle to move my keeper, so he won't play stupid and get late to the ball.
Okay so what you're talking about is basically pressing L1 taking somebody not in wall and putting them in a useful position like beside the posts.
But what is that TRIANGLE thing do when you're defending freekick, I'm pretty sure it does something. Maybe it moves the wall a bit. Not player by player but moves it a bit towards let's say where GK is staying or something like that. Anybody know?
I think Triangle just charges the keeper like it would normally.
Square jumps the wall, circle jumps whilst sending a charger and I *assume* that X sends some chargers.
No X makes them fully stand on ground. so if you think the opposition is gonna have a hard low crack at goal you press X so it doesn't go below your player's foot if they jump.
Circle makes players charge if you want some to jump and some to charge you have to press Circle + Square.
But In PES4 I read in the summary (where you pause game and go to the list) that with pressing triangle when defending freekick, you can move the keeper closer to wall or something like that? anyways i'll try it myself to see what it is.
stuartyd
18 June 05, 12:01
I hate free kicks.
Everyone in my play group has a problem that noone else seems to on Pro Evo 4, WE8 and WE8LE.
If the free kick is being taken by a left footer then the ball will just loop straight up in air with hardly any power and just drop really short of the goal.
I tried using left footers in free training and it was fine, only happens in ganes. Agh!!!!!
Does anyone know why this is? i get the same thing. perfectly placed for a left footer, set everything up, fill the power up to the usual, expect the ball to go hurtling goalwards, then he chips it over the wall and a defender heads it away. why oh why oh why does this happen, it just drives me nuts
Loki1975
19 June 05, 18:09
great thread guys helped me right out :)
BIG problem with WE8LE free kicks is the keepers... This version actually has more accurate free kicks than in previous versions and hits the wall less often, which is good.. HOWEVER, to compensate for that, Konami bumped up goalie's reaction to free kicks WAY too much. Even if your free kick hits the target over the wall, the keeper will STILL save it most of the time. Power seems more important in this version than in any of the previous ones I feel... since goalies have faster reaction time to free kick shots. Try England and take free kicks with Beckham... James saves most of the shots unless they are PERFECT shots. either that or... they just hit the post.
But curiously enough, they don't react well to the circle button "shot". I hate using those though, because unless you have your kicker on free kick motion of beckham, they just sort of "chip" the ball and it doesn't look like a real free kick. Nonetheless, 23m and down, shooting with circle is the better option, but you'll hit the wall or defenders lot more often.
Agree with you absolutely. Only the abosolutely perfect freekick will go in. I'm talking about real screamers here (not tap circle chips or under the wall). The definition of perfect is to strict as only a fine line between perfect and very,very good. I mean, how realistic is that?
Any hard accurate shot, clearing the wall heading towards the corners opposite from the keeper ( based on his position ), should by right go in. Instead here we have a keeper that's already moving before the ball clears the wall (i' mean how can he see); so he 'magically right there when the shot's on target. Real life keepers usually protect the side away from the wall, the FK challenge is really to get the ball over and dip away from keeper. (this usually is a goal, unless shot is rather weak.)
I real life, even not so perfect freekicks always go in.
I mean, its really getting to me, as I can get good shot on target( angle between bar and post) 90 % off the time, and some of them should at least go in. You can use the worst keeper against the best FK taker, same result. In reality anything in that zone should go in (if its reasonably well hit against ann average keeper.Here the difference is in milimeteres.
Just my ramblings..ppl
Cheers,
Agree with you absolutely. Only the abosolutely perfect freekick will go in. I'm talking about real screamers here (not tap circle chips or under the wall). The definition of perfect is to strict as only a fine line between perfect and very,very good. I mean, how realistic is that?
Any hard accurate shot, clearing the wall heading towards the corners opposite from the keeper ( based on his position ), should by right go in. Instead here we have a keeper that's already moving before the ball clears the wall (i' mean how can he see); so he 'magically right there when the shot's on target. Real life keepers usually protect the side away from the wall, the FK challenge is really to get the ball over and dip away from keeper. (this usually is a goal, unless shot is rather weak.)
I real life, even not so perfect freekicks always go in.
I mean, its really getting to me, as I can get good shot on target( angle between bar and post) 90 % off the time, and some of them should at least go in. You can use the worst keeper against the best FK taker, same result. In reality anything in that zone should go in (if its reasonably well hit against ann average keeper.Here the difference is in milimeteres.
Just my ramblings..ppl
Cheers,
Anyone see Ballack's goal against Mexico in the recent Confeds Cup. Exactly the point I'm trying to make. Kick was hard with some bend on it, but overall it was still rather central (just somewhat to the left). The challenge was for Ballack to get it over the wall and dip. IMO such a goal would never happen in WE8LE. In WE8LE keeper woul get to shots furtehr away than that.
Cheers.
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