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narutofan
4 April 05, 16:17
Hello everyone!
I've had the game for abt a week or two and I'm pretty pleased with it. I finally had the chance to play against a human player, but I'm having huge problems with crossing the ball into the box. My friend and I played the game for 9hrs straight :> and as far as we could remember we didnt even score 1 header! I've tried everything, from crossing with/without R1/R2, crossing whilst standing still etc etc. I have been playing PES since version2 and WE since version 6 so I don't think I'm that bad :> Does any1 know what I'm doing wrong? Thanks for reading guys/gals any info on what im doing wrong would b much appreciated.
jambotommy
4 April 05, 16:24
To be honest mate,i've been playing we8le,for about a week,i still ain't scored a header.imo,the game is way too hard,you can't run like in pes4,wing play has been shot down,and dunno why,but i went back to pes4 last night and enjoyed my football again,darting runs,swerving crosses etc.maybe i just ain't no good,but i cope fine with pes4.
Mind you,i suppose if i played it long enough,i would improve,but i also play wide camera default,which is horrendous in we8le.
JT
Well, im always a header killer since we3 and i found header in We8Le is not that difficult, the main thing in here is not your players stats and height but "the way you cross". U cant expect heading the ball with only pressing a cross button, you have to adjust the direction as well as the range, the high of the cross and which player does the cross aim at. With the low cross ( 2 or 3 times cirle )it will be even more obvious, the defenders always stand infront of you if you dont check the small radar and adjust your cross direction.
Anyway, i just want to clear that header in we8le isnt hard, with practice you will get used to it.
narutofan
4 April 05, 16:45
Thing is I'm pleased with most aspects of the game, to me it feels more like real football.
I loved PES4 but some aspects were quite annoying, like how a player could keep possesion of the ball by using R2 loads (my mate used to do it all d time, annoyed the hell outta me) and the shooting system was pretty awful.
LE imo is a improvement but i felt it was odd dat me and my friend couldn't score with crossing the ball into the box after 9hrs of play! We tried using different teams and it was still the same.
narutofan
4 April 05, 16:53
subzozo
Thanks for the reply, much appreciated. I don't expect to score headers from just pressing the cross button!! I understand what your saying tho, but i just found it odd not to score from a cross after 9 hours of play. Maybe you have to do something different to the previous versions??? thats why i asked. I had no problems at all with the previous versions, but to me crossing in LE seemed pointless after the 9hrs of play i had against a human player. The formation i play is with a very wide left + right winger, so I always have plenty of chances to whip in a decent cross even when there aren't many defenders in the box, but none of my crosses seem to find the target. Maybe we were just having one of those days.
I cant say i score perfectly 9 or 10 out of 10 crosses but i head the ball (beat the defender) 6-7/10 crosses and score 3-4/6-7 headers. ( Same for comp or human opponents).
My method which always works is my attackers possition arent parallel and i have diff attrack arrows dirrections. Example: Kaka's possition a bit is lower than Sheva in my formation and while Sheva moving up leftward Kaka moving straight forward. When i cross from a left wing, i aim to Shave but then curling it back abit and Kaka is right there alone. All the defenders are attracted by Sheva so Kakas job is simple. I also use super cancel alot in order to get better possition for header...Its just one of many ways to score a header.
The only bug i hate now is the goalies, they dont narrow the angle when the attacker come very close and shoot at narrow angle ( near the post), they always stand at the middle of the box. The result is the goalies punch the ball into the net. I and my friend take advantage of this bug by come close to the box, instead of crossing the ball in, we shoot at narrow angle and the goalie simple punch the ball in their own net. LOL
Zygalski
4 April 05, 17:49
I've noticed that some players just run down the wing and send in crosses all day long. You need to think things through if you want success with crosses. Stuff like the long pass accuracy of the crosser, getting them on their preferred foot, having a decent heading player in the centre and look at the radar to see that they are free.
filthydani
5 April 05, 06:13
Press Circle
Haven't tried WE8LE with a patch yet but am really enjoying it. Lots of little differences meaning I haven't won too many games! Scored a really good goal today playing with S.Korea against Japan from a corner. Cross to the far post around the six-yard box, headed back across the goal, beating keeper and defender on the line as it went into the side of the net. Goodnight Vienna.:D
I tend to score more goals off crosses when I cross the ball in early with hitting circle twice, if its an early cross, you may have a player in space, then bingo, in the back of the onion bag.
What is the difference between crossing with R1 pressed?
I use the R1 button when I need to get the ball out of my square box fast. Not for crossing in from the side.
brianwong
6 April 05, 21:16
I seriously can't score from crosses.
I play on 6* and all my crosses seem to go straight to the head of the defender.
Even if there's room ahead of my striker and no defender in sight, the winger will still cross to the opposition.
I had no such problems on PES4 or WE8.
Zygalski
6 April 05, 21:16
I think R1 adds pace to crosses?
R2 definitely adds height.
ClassicD
6 April 05, 23:14
^^ Not from open play IMO, as soon as it's left the player's boot control is transferred to the waiting striker.
Zygalski
6 April 05, 23:37
I think it works - try holding these buttons before crossing and notice the height difference with R2.
(note: I haven't specifically checked this with WE8:LE yet)
i've scored a fair few headers to be honest, maybe because i'm Newcastle all the time and just get the early crosses in and Shearer does the rest.... i think the crossing is alot better a bit like WE7I with the pace u can create
ruffneckc
7 April 05, 02:51
Crossing is very difficult in this game for me as well. I'm no newbie and I could cross and score in We8 for fun. Thing is no matter how i cross (long, short w/ R1/R2 etc) the defender always seems to get there ahead of my attacker. This happens with my friends as well. I think there is a trick to getting your attackers onto headers in WE8LE I just can't figure it out as yet. Perhaps some of you guys who have scored lots of headers can share what exactly (timing, position, double tap or single tap) has been most successful for you.
Thanks much.
sungdien
7 April 05, 04:31
Hello !
I'm one of the biggest fan of wings play, so I can share my experience to you. I'm at Vietnam, but we (I & my friends) always play the latest verion of WE, and WE8LE is the best then ever. If you try many ways to cross the ball to the area but can not score, please think about what i say you next. First, when you come the the wing side, let your wing midfield (Right or Left) run to the back line near the corner flag, then pass back to your wing back (i mean RB or LB), and as soon as your wing back touch the ball, press O (the circle button) one, two or three times (depend on you), it will work. With this way, the ball will fly very undefindable and it is very hard to defender to stop it, i've scored many goals by this way and my friends admired this style of goal well. I've played WE series for years and hope my experiences will help you, thank for reading my idea. Good luck !
Ahn, that trick is very old since i played we3 for money in BachKhoa Uni in VN. ;)
Anyway, even normal cross isnt too hard to score. If you guys want i can try to record some of my crosses. Just let me know if u guys want me to do so. Im at final exam so it will take time.
brianwong
7 April 05, 12:55
Another match, and yet again all my crosses seem 'magnetized' towards the opposition defenders. Even if I cross early into acres of space (or so I think) the player will end up cutting the ball back and into the path of the defender.
billsterno1
7 April 05, 13:12
I score from crosses all the time. The trick is to use the d-pad to send the ball in that direction. Also use the radar to see where you players are making there runs into the box. For example if your striker is level with the last defender press > and double tap circle to whip it in infront of the defender so your striker can run onto it. If your striker is behind the last defender press < and cross. It will pull it back to him and the defender won't have time to turn and your striker can run onto it. Just try using it, you will notice the differnce.
brianwong
7 April 05, 13:21
Can you not use the Analogue? It's a bit awkward to switch between the two just for crosses!
It would be interesting if people posted what skill level they're playing on, I'm playing on 6* and can barely win a header in the box, out of 30 15min games I've scored with 2 headers :(
Zlatan#9
7 April 05, 13:42
The only bug i hate now is the goalies, they dont narrow the angle when the attacker come very close and shoot at narrow angle ( near the post), they always stand at the middle of the box. The result is the goalies punch the ball into the net. I and my friend take advantage of this bug by come close to the box, instead of crossing the ball in, we shoot at narrow angle and the goalie simple punch the ball in their own net. LOL
Yeah, this 'bug' is so stupid, happens all the time.
brianwong
7 April 05, 14:12
It would be interesting if people posted what skill level they're playing on, I'm playing on 6* and can barely win a header in the box, out of 30 15min games I've scored with 2 headers :(
I'm on 6* too.
I regularly win headers in defence and midfield but when it comes to the penalty area, my players seem to lose several inches.
I was playing as Southampton and Crouch is one tall mofo, the only headed goal he scored was a stooping header from about 0.5m off the goal line, quite silly, but still I'm happy the game is harder, I'm almost tempted to go down to 5* for a while to get used to it which is great :)
Yup, it's definitely harder - I was struggling on 3 the other day.:D
billsterno1
7 April 05, 14:27
I'm playing on 6* as I alway's do, and yes you can do the same thing with the analogue stick. Would people like me too post some goals I've scored from crosses and explain how each one was scored?
I was playing as Southampton and Crouch is one tall mofo, the only headed goal he scored was a stooping header from about 0.5m off the goal line, quite silly, but still I'm happy the game is harder, I'm almost tempted to go down to 5* for a while to get used to it which is great :)
5* is harder than 6* IMO. On 6* The CPU just plays all out attack, making it very easy to counter. On 5* the CPU is more balanced and you have to actually think about your attack and built it more. Sometimes I find myself knocking the ball about amongst my defence/midfield, looking for an opening, just keeping possession.
Just my IMO.
6 stars here too and I still score as many headers as in PES4.
5* is harder than 6* IMO. On 6* The CPU just plays all out attack, making it very easy to counter. On 5* the CPU is more balanced and you have to actually think about your attack and built it more. Sometimes I find myself knocking the ball about amongst my defence/midfield, looking for an opening, just keeping possession.
Just my IMO.
Bugger it looks like I'll be going down to 4* then ;)
6 stars here too and I still score as many headers as in PES4.
You didn't cross the ball in PES4 much then? ;)
billsterno1
7 April 05, 15:49
Ok here are some goal's I just scored from crosses in a couple of games. Sorry about the quality but I had to use my digital camera and then compress the files which doesn't help the quality either but they are watchable. I know some people hate the radar, but on all of these goals I used the radar to see where my players were positioned. So I knew where and when to cross the ball.
1. For this first goal I could see Henry was a few feet behind the last central defender so I double tapped circle and pressed < to cut it back with a bit of pace. Notice how the defender doesn't have time to turn and clear it. By the time he's turned round the ball is in the back of the net. Henry Header (http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/Uploaded/WE8LECrosses1.avi)
2. For the second goal I could see I had a player running in at the back post. So I pressed circle once and ^ so it would send the ball to the back post. If I'd of pressed circle twice it would have been intercepted as there were too many defenders in the box so only pressing it once allowed the ball to travel all the way to the back stick.
Trezeguet Far Post (http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/Uploaded/WE8LECrosses2.avi)
3. For this goal I was on the counter attack and could see that Henry was in front of the last central defender. So I decided to tap circle 3 times to zip it along the floor for him for a easy tap in. A double tap of circle cross might have also worked, but I don't think heading is Henry's strong point. So given the choice that why I chose to give him the chance to feet. Henry Tap In (http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/Uploaded/WE8LECrosses3.avi)
4. For this goal I was again on the counter attack and I'd pulled their defenders out of position so Henry was free in the centre. Now this time I used the high through ball ( L1 + Triangle) to get the ball to Henry. Because I could see on my radar he was in so much space. I could play the slower ball to him and set him up for a nice volley.
Henry Volley (http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/Uploaded/WE8LECrosses4.avi)
Try some of these methods cos they do work. Once you get used to looking for the best scoring opportunity, rather than just crossing it and hoping it finds one of your men, you'll start scoring loads.
Billsterno1 explainted very detail about the crossing and how to cross to the free player. More than that, you should need some "air battle skills" in case you cant get rid of a defender. If anyone would host some megs, i will post my "air battle"
billsterno1
7 April 05, 17:29
Billsterno1 explainted very detail about the crossing and how to cross to the free player. More than that, you should need some "air battle skills" in case you cant get rid of a defender. If anyone would host some megs, i will post my "air battle"
How big is the file mate. If it's under 30mb upload it here: www.rapidshare.de
just 4 files around 40mb, i just play 2 quick matches to kill Inter after seeing yersterday C1. :D:D:D:D
In PES4 I crossed the ball for like 15 times and hit 8 of them and still have the same amount in We8LE.
Is that a movie you're talking about subzozo?
ruffneckc
7 April 05, 23:02
I score from crosses all the time. The trick is to use the d-pad to send the ball in that direction. Also use the radar to see where you players are making there runs into the box. For example if your striker is level with the last defender press > and double tap circle to whip it in infront of the defender so your striker can run onto it. If your striker is behind the last defender press < and cross. It will pull it back to him and the defender won't have time to turn and your striker can run onto it. Just try using it, you will notice the differnce.
This is great advise man! Thanks a lot! I've scored two headers from crosses in 3 games played. That is more than I've scored over like 15 games or so.
billsterno1
8 April 05, 01:05
This is great advise man! Thanks a lot! I've scored two headers from crosses in 3 games played. That is more than I've scored over like 15 games or so.
Glad it helped mate. Once you get more practice you'll be complaining that it's too easy to score from crosses LOL ;)
sungdien
8 April 05, 04:01
Ahn, that trick is very old since i played we3 for money in BachKhoa Uni in VN. ;)
Anyway, even normal cross isnt too hard to score. If you guys want i can try to record some of my crosses. Just let me know if u guys want me to do so. Im at final exam so it will take time.
Hello !
Oh, I did not say that it is a new trick, but it is one of my ways to score from crossing if the defenders want to stop my midfield cross the ball in to the area. You said that you played WE 3 for money, now in Vietnam there are some guys still do that, but not me. I can say that I'm one of the best WE player in Vietnam, but I've never played for money, just for fun with my friends. When these guys challenged me, I beat them as well as I beat the computer, so they never want to play with me again, he he. Now, where are you now, Vietnam or other country ? I alway want to play with someone who is master of WE, to learn from him and to prove myself. If you in Vietnam & Ho Chi Minh City, contact me and we may have a competition, OK ? If not, may be we will play together when WE can played online worldwide.
brianwong
8 April 05, 11:52
I've read those tips - thanks. Now to try to put it into action. :D
im in canada for 4 years now but i will come back for holiday this summer but i live in hanoi, not hcm. Yea, hope we can play online in near future.
Benn_Black
9 April 05, 02:06
Use the Finale ball, it does back a difference and when attacking a cross press down on the D-PAD and shoot.
Um, you do realise the only difference between the balls is the texture??
Benn_Black
9 April 05, 23:36
Um, you do realise the only difference between the balls is the texture??
No it isn't. Try playing with the SYS balls, you'll notice a big difference.
ClassicD
9 April 05, 23:42
Touchy subject this, IMO Mozz is correct, the balls are identical.
Benn_Black
10 April 05, 00:53
IMO he isn't. Try the SYS you will notice the difference straight away.
TrebuTa
10 April 05, 01:49
You're a bit like the real Mourinho aren't you? Arrogant, always thinking you know it all?
ClassicD
10 April 05, 11:44
I have played with each one many times, just agree to disagree eh?
billsterno1
10 April 05, 11:52
It's a load of rubbish, all the balls are the same apart from the textures LOL. He's living in fantasy world.............yeh pick this ball and you'll score more..........Don't think so!!!
aldeeb2
11 April 05, 13:25
I've discovered that crossing while pressing R2 is mush better than normal crosses. Has anyone tried it b4 or is it just illusions :)
Placebo
11 April 05, 13:30
Just discovered that myself last night, first noticed it helped me score from corners so starting trying to remember to do it with crosses as well and I was getting a much better connection percentage :)
Zygalski
11 April 05, 15:20
I've discovered that crossing while pressing R2 is mush better than normal crosses. Has anyone tried it b4 or is it just illusions :)Try reading post number 13 of this thread ;)
aldeeb2
19 April 05, 13:25
thx
Try to cross with L1+R2+O (circle) for high crosses, L1+R1+0O for mid height crosses, and L1+R1+OOO for low crosses.
It works perfectly with me
With more than 11 years of WE experience I must pay my due respect to anyone claiming to score a lot from headers, in this year's versions, against 5 or 6* CPU and/or versus worthy oponents.
Being a player who likes to play on the wings, and although I can still beat the hell out of my oposition I feel very frustrated with crossing this year, and WE8LE didn't make it better.
I've tried everything: crossing with R1,L1,R2,L2 or simply no L or R... crossing using the d-pad to put the ball were my players apear... crossing from single tap, double tap or even 3 tap according to situations... nothing works consistently. I still score some from double tap or 3 tap, but too few to consider playing on the wingers as a solid productive option. It's very frustrating, specially compaired to previous versions.
I also don't agree with the "cross and shoot and it's in" approach of older versions (PS1 mainly, remember Kanu or Kluivert in 433 eheh) but for goodness sake.. it's virtually impossible to score regularly from a normal cross to your striker... there is 95% a defender there no matter how you cross, the direction you send, and the buttons you use. You just cross, cross, cross untill in one game there it goes.. a nice header.
I find the "R2 positioning" the most funny note of all... I cannot even imagine what kind of oposition ppl are facing if they have the time to position their striker using the R2 and still score from headers... it's totally unproductive, 90% of times you not only don't reach the ball as you even remove the striker from the spot to which your winger is crossing (if only the defender didn't cutt if before).
I also attended PES4 tournaments this year and I didn't find a single player who scored regularly from the air, even using the top headers of the game...
just my 2 cents.
Agreed Mauras except the R2 positioning bit.
Overall I still score those headers but they're far and few in between and nowhere near as much as previous versions. I find no matter what type of cross I use, there's always a defender there who heads it clear. Very rarely do I get to cross with nobody around and leaving my player unmarked that's why i'm not happy with my total # of goals from headers in this game.
Yet I do find R2 to be effective and it's because of that even the goals I DO get from headers. In some of them finally htere's only one defender and by using R2 at the right time I can slip JUST in front of the defender in last second and therefore get to ball first and head it in.
ah yep, in that I agree.. in a low population defence you can make good usage of R2 position but mate... 90% of crosses happen in situations where the oposition has 3,4 defenders inside.. in those situations i find R2 not only ineffective but also destroying.
well I don't even use R2 when crossing. I either Use L1 + double tap circle or triple tap or sometiems even ONE tap circle if i have a tall towering forward like Crouch.
Or the normal double tap, triple tap or single tap of Circle.
What does R2 or R1 do?
Golden Go@l
7 June 05, 05:26
well I don't even use R2 when crossing. I either Use L1 + double tap circle or triple tap or sometiems even ONE tap circle if i have a tall towering forward like Crouch.
Or the normal double tap, triple tap or single tap of Circle.
What does R2 or R1 do?
R2 gives the ball a higher arch. The ball comes in at a much slower pace. Don't know about R1. Have any of you tried crossing manually, using R3 (right analog stick)? It seems as if you would be able to pinpoint crosses more effectively, however the difficulty of such passes would increase, compared to tapping Circle.
well with R3 even if you get accuracy of it right it'll be too LOFTy and SOFT it'll be kinda like a single circle tap so why bother.
I do use manual pass quite a bit too...both aerial and on ground but not for crossing really.
Agreed Mauras except the R2 positioning bit.
Overall I still score those headers but they're far and few in between and nowhere near as much as previous versions. I find no matter what type of cross I use, there's always a defender there who heads it clear. Very rarely do I get to cross with nobody around and leaving my player unmarked that's why i'm not happy with my total # of goals from headers in this game.
Yet I do find R2 to be effective and it's because of that even the goals I DO get from headers. In some of them finally htere's only one defender and by using R2 at the right time I can slip JUST in front of the defender in last second and therefore get to ball first and head it in.
I've been reading this thread and trying out some of the tips here myself. And I find that it's true in most part. As Mauras said, it was easier in previous versions, yes but maybe that was because the AI defence was not as good. In WE8LE they really stick to you like glue and cut out the cross. Initially my though was the same as Mauras the heading way too difficult in this version. Then I read the post about using your rdar to spot the open man, and guiding your cross and player. (prev. I too never looked at the radar at all)
Using R2 to reposition and justle does work, but also depends on the cross coming in. Just hitting and hope does no good anymore, since the cross will go to where the palyer 'WAS' standing (which is usually covered by DF). You either have to lead, lag or go over (R2) when crossing.
When to use R1, R2, (none) combined with single, double or triple tap is totally up to you and the situation should dictate which is better to get the ball to your player.
Practice often and you'll soon get the feel for it.
After trying out various techniques I am slowly but surely improving my conversion of headed goals in WE8LE now. Can score more regularly now, although I'm not a headed goal machine yet. But I have now scored some great jumping powered headers, quite a few glancing ones, and many where you just nod in slightly ahead of the DF. (ball against head or head against ball ha.ha.)
I'm using Real Madrid in my ML. The strange thing that I can't understand now is that 90% of my headed goals are socred by Owen. His jump and header, physical stats are not the best. I have Martins in there as well, with higher jump and header, but doesn't seem to score that many.
Right now i'm imporving my CB's in training to get them to convert more headers during set plays. Also scouting for some strong young players with great header stats to get in there as a 'target man'. Against some teams with big pwerful CB's, Owen alone can't muscle his way thru (using R2) to get his head to the ball.
Well just my latest take on this rather old topic.
Cheers mates. :)
To be honest I haven't scored from headers in WE8LE, yet. I've now switched to using :circle: x 3 and goals have been coming from the sides now. Still can't score from corners.
To be honest I haven't scored from headers in WE8LE, yet. I've now switched to using :circle: x 3 and goals have been coming from the sides now. Still can't score from corners.
You might not score very often, as the marking is very tight.Chances of a palyer being covered by the DF getting to a cross is very slim, as the different payer stats such as strength and such come into play when jostling for the ball.
Based on your formation, and run arrows you may/may not have free players runnig in. Aim for these. Timing of button press is also important. HArd to explain but you need to get a feel of when to press. (Pratice CK in training).
IMO I think the triple-tap O is not as effective as it once was. In past version I could always get my 2nd striker to slide in at the far post. Now it's usually cut out.
For in-game corners, I score every now and then (not often enough though).
a) Try the default aiming (don't adjust), 1/3 or 1/2 power to far post. Direction press on heading should be same direction as ball flight (post nearest to player heading ball) or perpendicular to player.
b) Another option is to inswing. Aim a toward the top of the D and swing the corner in. Using R2/R1 is up to you. Power same as above. The ball target zone should be just outside the 6yrd box. Need to jostle players to get a head to this.
c) Try a low corner, (knee height). Curl away from near psot. If you have OMF, sometimes can connect with sweet volley when they run in.
Another thing is, your palyers will shape up differently everytime there's a corner. So you have to compensate the above accordingly. Theres no sweet and sure method of getting 'easy' goals.
Cheers.
Yes, the headers are harder to get from crosses. I think Konami noticed that you needed to play with at least 4 defenders in previous versions (like PES 4) in multiplayer (or LIVE). Playing with 3 at the back made the defence very vulnerable to get goals against from crosses.
Now that crosses are harder, you can play with 3 at the back again.
So that may be the reason Konami changed it.
When practicing the other night I found yet another way to head from crosses.
I was practicing corners, setting up 4 defenders and a defensive midfielder (so, enough opposition for practicing headers).
The way I scored was moving the aimed striker backwards and immediatately forward again, using R2. That way you get rid of your marker and for a moment you are unmarked.
In real live attackers do exactly the same...
james_chelliah
5 July 05, 15:21
I've been reading this thread and trying out some of the tips here myself. And I find that it's true in most part. As Mauras said, it was easier in previous versions, yes but maybe that was because the AI defence was not as good. In WE8LE they really stick to you like glue and cut out the cross. Initially my though was the same as Mauras the heading way too difficult in this version. Then I read the post about using your rdar to spot the open man, and guiding your cross and player. (prev. I too never looked at the radar at all)
Using R2 to reposition and justle does work, but also depends on the cross coming in. Just hitting and hope does no good anymore, since the cross will go to where the palyer 'WAS' standing (which is usually covered by DF). You either have to lead, lag or go over (R2) when crossing.
When to use R1, R2, (none) combined with single, double or triple tap is totally up to you and the situation should dictate which is better to get the ball to your player.
Practice often and you'll soon get the feel for it.
After trying out various techniques I am slowly but surely improving my conversion of headed goals in WE8LE now. Can score more regularly now, although I'm not a headed goal machine yet. But I have now scored some great jumping powered headers, quite a few glancing ones, and many where you just nod in slightly ahead of the DF. (ball against head or head against ball ha.ha.)
I'm using Real Madrid in my ML. The strange thing that I can't understand now is that 90% of my headed goals are socred by Owen. His jump and header, physical stats are not the best. I have Martins in there as well, with higher jump and header, but doesn't seem to score that many.
Right now i'm imporving my CB's in training to get them to convert more headers during set plays. Also scouting for some strong young players with great header stats to get in there as a 'target man'. Against some teams with big pwerful CB's, Owen alone can't muscle his way thru (using R2) to get his head to the ball.
Well just my latest take on this rather old topic.
Cheers mates. :)
yeah man, I score alot of headers with Owen too.
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