View Full Version : Who is Over Rated/Who is Under Rated
juventus11
10 March 05, 12:08
Hey mates,
I think Vieri is Over rated in the game, they made him fast. Also I think Blasi and Zebina are underated..........
Who do you guys think are Under rated or Over rates?
djhardline
10 March 05, 13:13
Andy Johnson is very under rated.
alexcarreira
10 March 05, 15:11
underrated:
poborsky
carvalho
mark gonzales
hübschmann
overrated:
kewell
simak
recoba
juventus11
10 March 05, 15:14
Kewell is very overrated.
JimJoeC
10 March 05, 15:40
Fortune very overrated.
Joe Cole very underrated.
lampard is extremely under rated.
owen, cisse, vieri are over rated.
under rated:
ronaldinho, adriano, tevez, lampard, ricardo carvalho, cech, terry, robben
over:
owen, cisse, vieri, ronaldo, zidane, figo, kewel, ferdinand, nesta, del piero
juventus11
10 March 05, 16:09
Owen is over rated.
I don't think ronnie and adriano are underrated!
recoba is overrated, so is Raul
juventus11
11 March 05, 18:45
UMMMMM.... Veron is overrated.
Saha, Diouf overated
Leadly King, Defo underated
Is vieri crap now a lot of people mentiong him being overated.
juventus11
19 March 05, 19:36
Diego Milito... is overrated
fdb201693
20 March 05, 16:53
I though Evra is underrated, and Veron its not so good on freekick...!
Evra underrated
Veron overrated
zlatan underrated
martins its to fast overrated
Saha underrated
Clarence seedorf little bit better on freekick should he be... ( ON THE GAME )
Saha underrated
Do you not mean overated, im a united fan i think he is overated in pes4.
juventus11
20 March 05, 18:30
indeed.
Stringer Bell
20 March 05, 19:51
Andy Johnson is very under rated.
His not because at the time they created the game and his stats he was playing for Crystal Palace a promoted team and he was more or less a second rate player.
His not because at the time they created the game and his stats he was playing for Crystal Palace a promoted team and he was more or less a second rate player.
but still, to date they are underrated, like with mintal. ;)
UMMMMM.... Veron is overrated.
hummm don't think so! I think he is fine.
Underrated. almost half the players in the game.
Overrated. just a couple really.
rvcruz - Ronaldinho is not underrated, he is fantastic the way he is. Terry is perfect. and Adriano would be impossible to make him more life like. :)
juventus11
21 March 05, 08:43
:lol:
Stringer Bell
21 March 05, 14:46
I agree with grav3digg3r.
juventus11
21 March 05, 14:47
well I dont agree.
fdb201693
23 March 05, 13:05
David Beckham overrated :)
So?! I'm a Juve and Barca fan :lmao:
FORZA JUVE E BARCA
juventus11
23 March 05, 13:25
I dont really give a crap.
I though Evra is underrated, and Veron its not so good on freekick...!
Evra underrated
Veron overrated
zlatan underrated
martins its to fast overrated
Saha underrated
Clarence seedorf little bit better on freekick should he be... ( ON THE GAME )
Martins is like the fastest player in the big leagues right now so how he can be over-rated with his speed in this game is beyond me.
He should have 99 for Top speed and Acceleration as he's faster than anything I've seen before so he's probably under-rated his speed.
juventus11
23 March 05, 13:52
LMAO he cant he already has 99 99 lol he cant have more, I agree with PLF.
juventus11
23 March 05, 14:48
lol.
Michael Owen is the most overrated in the game. His dribbling is far too good.
I have to agree with that one! and he is too fast. If we where talking 6 years earlier... :)
tottiiii
29 March 05, 02:23
Totti's all around passing accuracy should be almost to the top...his technique is 90 which is good enough...also should have the playmaking ability.
hes amazing in the game though still..so it doesnt matter..
i just got the game, i wanna see if Hleb is decent...hes an exciting player to me.
so how is Cristiano Ronaldo? is he made realistic? I havent tried the game yet..
could someone give a opinion on him (in the game)
Valderrama is defenitely underrated, he has way to less hair....Vieri is overrated, he's not that fat in real life...
under rated
robinho santos, mascherano river plate diego, porto
totti roma
raul real madrid
henry aresenal because he does not peform on most big games
:applause: \\:o/ :shock: :lmao: ;) :( :) 8) :D
Bananadude
30 April 05, 03:03
Robben is overrated IMO, as is Beckham.
Tevez, Nilmar (given time), and Heitinga are underrated.
Tyrian³
30 April 05, 13:04
Vieri and F.Inzaghi are ooooverrated!!
Some Italy Classic player are underrated (don't remember the name, I checked time ago)
overated- owen,recoba,and vieri
underated-robben,wright-phillips,martins,fabregas.
Ok general rule is that many players who were once WORLD class but are now past their peak and should have much lower stats are still rated as if they were in their prime.
Examples are all of few years ago's great players who are a shadow of themselves now.
Vieri
Inzaghi
Chiesa
and many many more!!!
Under-rated: There are many players but if I name them you probably even won't recognize as you don't know those players.
But fear not, all these issues and minor stat tweaks needed will be fixed in "PLF Data Update" ;)
I'm out
Stringer Bell
30 April 05, 22:20
The most overrated player is Fabregas! (in future terms)
As if he is going to be a world class player when his 20!!!
Tyrian³
30 April 05, 23:33
But fear not, all these issues and minor stat tweaks needed will be fixed in "PLF Data Update" ;)
You save the day brother! :mrgreen: I'm really looking fwd to it!
Will you adjust classic teams too?Just a curiosity (never use them)
No, I won't as I never play with them.
Plus this whole thing will take at least couple weeks if i work non-stop lol.. don't need anything else to make it even later!!
But anyways in a few weeks we'll be able to finally enjoy a great game with good gameplay, awesome data with no more mistakes plus nice pitches and balls/boots and everything :D
Take care everyone.
The most overrated player is Fabregas! (in future terms)
As if he is going to be a world class player when his 20!!!
Based on how well Fabregas has played this season for Arsenal, he very well could be world class at 20-21. He certainly has shown more of that potential on a real life pitch than most of the other 17-18 year old prospects that grow like mad in PES/WE.
Cesc Fabregas SHOULD have gotten nominated for the PFA 's young player of the year award (WTF was Shaun Wright Phillips doing as a "young player". Anyone with a transfer fee of 15-30mil who has played in the Premiership a few years already is an established player and shouldnt be eligible for that award. I like SWP, but Fabregas should have been nominated instead)
Owen has pretty top on stats watch him in spain this season when he plays...
Beckham... spot on... just his hair is outta date :p
Adriano... spot on!
Raul... overrated
Ronaldo... just right although his breakaway pace needs improving.
Robben needs to be pacier... dribbling seems right tho... maybe a lil better.
lampard should have better shooting
Cesc I think he is alright so far pretty spot on... give him a few more years. I play with him alot and think he is fine... in fact I play him alot.
Wright Phillips... needs more pace and dribbling better shot too!!! underrated
Martins... fine fast and a pussy just like in real life lol :P
lol and dude these people you are posting... are the most popular players in the world. Imagine how many LESS well known players have totally FUCKED up stats that none of you notice except a few French fans or a Dutchie or some German guy when he'll get my update.
Then it'll bring a smile to his face because he sees the FK taker at his small club lets say "Hansa Rostock" who had been given an unrealistic original 55 stat for FK taking now has a 80 like he should.
:)
Underrated-Johnson-Crystal Palace
-Robben-Chelsea
-R.Carvalho-Chelsea
-Kameni-Espanol
-Maxi Lopez-Barcelona
-M.Fernandes-Benfica
-João Moutinho-Sporting
-Liedson-Sporting
-De Micheles-Bayern
-many players for F C Porto...
-etc..etc..etc..
Overrated-RECOBA definitely
-R.Pires-Arsenal
-Ljungberg-Arsenal
-Vieri-Inter
-etc etc etc
Bit of an aussie slant..
Underated :
Tim Cahill
Marco Bresciano
Lucas Neill
Overrated :
Harry Kewell
Mark Viduka
Underrated-Johnson-Crystal Palace
-Robben-Chelsea
-R.Carvalho-Chelsea
-Kameni-Espanol
-Maxi Lopez-Barcelona
-M.Fernandes-Benfica
-João Moutinho-Sporting
-Liedson-Sporting
-De Micheles-Bayern
-many players for F C Porto...
-etc..etc..etc..
Overrated-RECOBA definitely
-R.Pires-Arsenal
-Ljungberg-Arsenal
-Vieri-Inter
-etc etc etc
"many players for F C Porto" LoL
Your bias is obvious.
and you didnt see too many Arsenal games last year did you,
PES/WE ability stats were based on LAST years performances so there is no way Pires and Ljungberg are overrated. Before his injury Pires was one of the best Left mids IN THE WORLD last year. Pires scored 19 goals from midfield last season. Go check out Pires Opta stat rating for this season. He is one of the most accurate marksmen in the world FROM MIDFIELD.
No way those two players are overrated.
"many players for F C Porto" LoL
Your bias is obvious.
and you didnt see too many Arsenal games last year did you,
PES/WE ability stats were based on LAST years performances so there is no way Pires and Ljungberg are overrated. Before his injury Pires was one of the best Left mids IN THE WORLD last year. Pires scored 19 goals from midfield last season. Go check out Pires Opta stat rating for this season. He is one of the most accurate marksmen in the world FROM MIDFIELD.
No way those two players are overrated.
My opinion, sorry.
Stringer Bell
3 May 05, 15:14
Based on how well Fabregas has played this season for Arsenal, he very well could be world class at 20-21. He certainly has shown more of that potential on a real life pitch than most of the other 17-18 year old prospects that grow like mad in PES/WE.
Cesc Fabregas SHOULD have gotten nominated for the PFA 's young player of the year award (WTF was Shaun Wright Phillips doing as a "young player". Anyone with a transfer fee of 15-30mil who has played in the Premiership a few years already is an established player and shouldnt be eligible for that award. I like SWP, but Fabregas should have been nominated instead)
But look at his stats when he is 20, his better than Zidane and other type players. His not going to be like that at 2o IRL.
But look at his stats when he is 20, his better than Zidane and other type players. His not going to be like that at 2o IRL.
Well, if that is your issue then your criticism is not just for Fabregas but EVERY SINGLE 16-18 year old player in the game.
Fabregas more than ANY other 16-18 year old in the game has proven that he does have that kind of potential in real life playing against top competition.
There is no question Pires was and still is one of the world's BEST players.
Stringer Bell
3 May 05, 16:44
Well, if that is your issue then your criticism is not just for Fabregas but EVERY SINGLE 16-18 year old player in the game.
Yeah i agree with you there...
juventus11
3 May 05, 16:52
There is no question Pires was and still is one of the world's BEST players.
Was. Was. Was.
Now he sucks.
Well i think D'Alessandro is underated. And his growth chart is WTF
Overrated:
Samuel - one of the best defenders in the game and has had a terrible season.
Drogba - this guy actually has a pretty poor touch, and is too quick. He'll also miss a few chances before he scores.
Hleb is very good.
Was. Was. Was.
Now he sucks.
There is no doubt Pires is a year past his peak but he's still soooooooooo goood that he can play even at his current level for a top team for another season or two.
Plus if you think he sucks what would you say about Del Piero ??? That guy is 3-4 years past his peak... and doesn't look like even a SHADOW of Old Alex. At least Pires is only slightly past his best plus that's expected... at one point you go so high and get so good that the next year on you'll be getting worse than previous years.
Scandalous underrated:
Xavi-FC Barcelona
Stringer Bell
4 May 05, 11:44
Overrated:
Samuel - one of the best defenders in the game and has had a terrible season.
You have to remember that his stats isn't for this season, so it is impossible for players stats to represent this current season.
Think about it.
Stringer Bell
4 May 05, 11:51
Plus if you think he sucks what would you say about Del Piero ??? That guy is 3-4 years past his peak... and doesn't look like even a SHADOW of Old Alex.
Your right Del Piero is past his peak, i don't really understand why Juve doesn't sell him, it's probably becuase of marketing reasons.
His best time of his career was in 1996 when he was running teams rampant in the Champions League.
over rated:
A.Smith -ManU
Owen -Real Madrid
under rated:
Giggs -ManU
C.Ronaldo -ManU
Morientes -Real Madrid
You have to remember that his stats isn't for this season, so it is impossible for players stats to represent this current season.
Think about it.
As was mentioned earlier, you can then count out folk such as Mintal from this thread. Samuel has done nothing in his entire career to earn such amazing defensive ratings, what is he, 97 defense or something? He was good at Roma but even then not '97 good'. Players like Puyol, Nesta, Maldini are the best defenders in the world and should be around this mark, Samuel has never IMO proven he is at that level, even at Roma.
juventus11
4 May 05, 13:36
There is no doubt Pires is a year past his peak but he's still soooooooooo goood that he can play even at his current level for a top team for another season or two.
Plus if you think he sucks what would you say about Del Piero ??? That guy is 3-4 years past his peak... and doesn't look like even a SHADOW of Old Alex. At least Pires is only slightly past his best plus that's expected... at one point you go so high and get so good that the next year on you'll be getting worse than previous years.
Ok well in the game he is overated honestly he isnt fast, or great at dribbling, he might be a good player but in the game hes a amazaing player which is wrong.
I edited Del Piero making him worst, so nothing to say there.
"Ok well in the game he is overated honestly he isnt fast, or great at dribbling, he might be a good player but in the game hes a amazaing player which is wrong."
I honestly wonder how many Arsenal games you saw last season.
Just about every commentator/writer I have seen/heard has stated that last season before his injury that Pires was one of the best (if not the best) left midfielder in the world.
He certainly was an amazing player last season and every Gooner knows it.
j.s.park is under rated
van galen as well
Ok well in the game he is overated honestly he isnt fast, or great at dribbling, he might be a good player but in the game hes a amazaing player which is wrong.
I edited Del Piero making him worst, so nothing to say there.
Umm... Pires isn't fast or good at dribbling??? :shock: I wonder what he's good at then. Those are exactly what Pires STRENGhs were of course it doesn't hurt to be an amazing passer/crosser of the ball either but you can't forget that he's good at all of these things.
but anyways its okay... in Italy most poeple just watch their own league... and don't know much about others and when they do watch other teams its in Champions League so i'm not surprised with your unfamiliarity of these playes.
Anyways I'll sum this up: like i said in general.. players who were world class ONCE like even 4-5 years but are now past their peaks.... and much worse are all OVER-rated.
This is very obvious... jus go to any player that was a SUPERSTAR a few years ago and you'll find that they still have shockingly good stats even though they shouldn't at least not for speed/acceleration/stamina and agility.
Vieri, Inzaghi, del Piero, Bergkamp, Zola, Zahovic, Rivaldo and many others that aren't exactly superstars but were GREAT players once.. but now are not yet the game still has their speed like 88 for Acceleration. No FUCKING way.. Vieri's TOP speed is still 88. It's more like 80.
That's for OVER-rated ones.
then another one of Konami's problems is that they don't really rate players individually but based on how strong their TEAM is.
So if you play in AC Milan and you're a striker, you'll have shot accuracy above 85 lets say even if you were never that great of a finisher like Tommasson. Don't get me wrong he's fantastic player.. but he's a much better player than he's a finisher just like Raul and both are top scorers of their countries but I'm still not convinced they're world class strikers like Sheva and Crespo so why shoud he have 88 shooting accuracy and 89 heading for Tomasson??? this is a joke.. he's good player but no WORLD beater.. but cuz he plays for AC milan he has those stats and you can bet if he played his football in AZ Alkmaar right now... Konami would close-mindedly just hand him 60's and 70s all over without again lookin to see what wonderful player he is and giving him CORRECT right stats.
So in general when there are poor teams from poor leagues... Konami didn't really do the research they thought the whole world will play with EPL, SErie A and La Liga. They didn't think that Dutch and French people would be PISSED off to see every good FK taker for example in their league IGNORED and given a 50.
It's amazing how many good FK takers in that World competition with Zidane a few months ago have CRAP FK stats in the game. Delroy Buckley, Ugur Yildirim, Cristiano Lucarelli and David Villa of Zaragoza are just 4 examples all with crap FK stats in the game. Why do you think?? Cuz they're not at big clubs...
this is why PLF DATA will shine if released. Yeah nobody can ever be perfectly happy with the data as its SUBJECTive but there are some things that we can all agree on... such as Vieri is not as good as he was 4 years ago... or that Yildirim and C. Lucarreli should have AMAZING FK stats so those thigns won't bother anyone but will make your game and ML more enjoyable.
I'll be doing this for only my OWN pleasure by the way as I hate seeing these DATA mistakes.. and ruins my joy. Perhaps I know too much for my own good to really enjoy the game now :( and if I didn't .... I'd enjoy things because i wouldn't notice all these WRONG stats.
But since many people have requested that I give them my data so they can have much more realistic ML as well.... there is a chance I'll give it to them and release to public as well.
i'm out.
diego_robinho
6 May 05, 01:38
Well just thinking of players off the top of my head i think Pirlo is under-rated his passing should be better than it is coz hes superb.
Adriano should be faster. Cristiano Ronaldo and Rooney should have better stats although they improve greatly in the master league. Owen is over-rated he should have his speed slightly reduced and he has too many red stats lets be honest hes not that good. theres more but i cant think at the moment.
Stringer Bell
6 May 05, 11:50
Yeah PLF are you going to release your data or if you ain't you can make a thread of edited players stats like Minalsta did on PESFan.
Originally I wasn't gonna. I mean I did this extensive amount of editing for PES4 but I never released it and just kept it to myself and few people I knew would appreciate it but for this one I've had more than my usual share of requests and thought to myself... since i'm putting 100+ hours to get data as perfect as possible for MYSELF... I might as well release to public where some other poeple could enjoy... so i dunno I might. Depends on how often I run into problems with editors and many other things but either way I've got nothing to lose since I'm really doing this for myself since I can't play ML with those things mentioned above until they're fixed. and thankfully i'm not alone ;) Some other football crazy fans are just as FUCKED off with SOME of the research done as well.
Shevchenko is one of the most underrated but is still good though!!
Martins over-rated if u've seen him play u'l agree that he doesnt deserve 99 speed
Robben underrated, infact the whole chelsea squad are under-rated, unlike Arsenal who are always the best and madrid they always batter the other teams in master league!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Stringer Bell, you catch the Arsenal-pool game yesterday?
Fabregas, for being 18, was out of this world. IMO he is the best teenager player in the world. I'll take Fabregas with his maturity beyond his years beyond the mercurial talents of Rooney any day.
He simply gets better with every game. None of the 17-18 year old prospects int he game (with the exception of maybe Rooney) gets the real life playing time Fabregas has gotten. Over 40 games at the highest level at 17. He scored a beautiful goal today and played superb.
Stringer Bell
9 May 05, 09:48
Yeah man i saw it but only the highlights....so i couldn't of seen how well he played but for what i saw from the highlights....he was nice.
And about the over 40 games bit i never knew that...where did you get the stats from?
Shevchenko is one of the most underrated but is still good though!!
Martins over-rated if u've seen him play u'l agree that he doesnt deserve 99 speed
Robben underrated, infact the whole chelsea squad are under-rated, unlike Arsenal who are always the best and madrid they always batter the other teams in master league!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've seen him play plenty of times and I think he's the only one who SHOULD get 99 top speed and acceleration. He's just a bullet.
Stringer Bell
10 May 05, 16:07
I've seen him play plenty of times and I think he's the only one who SHOULD get 99 top speed and acceleration. He's just a bullet.
Yeah....thats what i want to hear!
then another one of Konami's problems is that they don't really rate players individually but based on how strong their TEAM is.
.
I agree.
It would be an honor that to know yours database PLF.If you neeed help for something, i´m here. :l1: :triangle:
Work is on way guys soon enough all ML hardcore fans and others ML fan or not like our friend Kenzo will hopefully be able to enjoy it.
I do work throughly. French league took me 4 days but now EVERY team has correct lineup/formation with no more stupid arrows on their CBs or a backward one on CF for example. These may seem like minor things but quite frankly in ML these are the formations the CPU whom we often find easy uses these default Konami formations with stupid arrows but I've fixed them all as well as lineups.
French league is totally done... some stats tweaked... no more players under 21 who've just been given a consistency and conditioning of 3 or 4 just because they're young because this is NOT something they improve on in ML anyways so i'm correcting Konami's mistakes like this. Now the only ones with bad consistency rating are the ones who've actually proved to be inconsistent in real life ;).
38 new players created overall just for French league. :D
All using knowledge and they've come out very well. No convertors used. And I've created them over someone with likely same amount of potential and wage so I don't just pick a team like PSG lets say.. see what players should be over-written and what players created for that team.. and just over-write on same players. I have 2 huge word documents which some of you have seen and called me crazy for ;) with huge list of players to over-write and huge list of players to create and upon careful reveiew... I create one and cross them out :)
If all goes well.. you guys should be enjoying this option file and PARA which you can put into your ISO to make these changes stay in ML by a couple weeks.
But you never know what problems you might run into when working with these tools so I dunno.. I can't promise anything and I'm still not sure if I'm gonna release it anyways cuz like I said all along I'm doing this for MYSELF and MYSELF only ;) this is only way I can enjoy proper serious ML.
Take care guys.
Great PLF. I was edited the scorpion s option file ( created about 100 players ;) ) it was hard ( searching many options files of various countries and sites clubs), but the editor had a bug and the callnames are wrong. I put they fine manualy in the game :shock: (only the teams players not of selections).But i think that this option file still 60 % :( . I discovery that many players are edited by scorpion on duplicated players ( in master league for example : someone player has the status of robben or bellamy , etc)and i don t have space in option file to creat more players , only in unused players ( the sattus in unused players are 0). :( . That s why i have to buy a dvdr to explore the data game ;).
Now i m puting the boots of players manually in edit mode ( this game put me mad since isspro 98 ;) ).
That s for this all that i don t play master league .
And i understand you PLF. The constant search to put this game more real. :applause:
Sorry abouut my poor english... :l1: :triangle:
Yeah that's why I didn't use Reefur's xps or Scorpio's as a BASE for mine because I wanted to get things 100% right and when you're using someone else's especially someone who's created players you don't know what they've DONE and if thye took the easy way out or the hard one which is why i got a VIRGIN WE8LE file with just english translation and started working.
Anyways our team is growin and if you think you can be of any help... drop me a pm. I might let you do the boots for my option file when done if you want.
take care
Underrated = Robinho
Overrated = Vieri
Whats funny his, when Del Piro was a real superstar, he was extremely underrated in ISS Pro / Winning Eleven 4.
As a fan of him, i really want to see him playing well again. He is just fun to watch, amazing technique.
Martins is like the fastest player in the big leagues right now so how he can be over-rated with his speed in this game is beyond me.
He should have 99 for Top speed and Acceleration as he's faster than anything I've seen before so he's probably under-rated his speed.
Actually, Ivan Cordoba has officially been named the fastest player in Serie A. They have tested all the players.
Well Cordoba is one of the fastest in the update I've done anywa. I've given him 95 top speed and 93 acceleration.
And where is this official news?? Can I see a link? and i didn't know they do a test..
Milanista
23 May 05, 00:24
Serginho is amongst the fastest of Serie A.
mostly of french players are over rated in the game... viera, pires, henry, thuram... as well as recoba, vieri and kewell
luis garcia(based on this season), robinho, ricardo oliveira (betis), lampard (shot) and ibrahimovic are under rated
and i think that ballack isn't so slow as he is on the game...
cem tecmen
3 June 05, 07:09
over-rated: pires,samuel,vieri,owen,beckham,trezeguet
under-rated: i quess every single player in chelsea(terry,carvalho,lampard,joe cole)
rooney,emre,ballack,robinho,tevez
under rated
atletico madrid - antonio lopez
cambiasso ( best serie a midfielder 2004-2005)- inter milan
michel salgado ( best spanish rb since 95 and has 2 yellow stats )- real madrid
van galen - az alkamaar way better passing and shooting
maxi rodriguez - espanol ( 1 yellow stat says it all )
ali karimi - best asian footballer deserves more
hannover 96 - goalkeeper henke ( sp?) much better reflexes he is not a turtle
marek mintal - nurneberg , he really deserves much more
Lol and these are very very famous players. I can name some seriuosly under-rated players that most have never heard of but all these will be fixed in my update. Not to mention many data mistakes I've found like certain right midfielder being a CENTRAL Defender in game for fucks sake.
Or a Cafu type of fullback.. being a SB with defence 80 and attack 54. The data is a mess and I'm glad I have the tools to use my magic now.. otherwise I'd never enjoy this game as much
Take care
well we cant follow these people if they are not on tv right?
They're on TV. I'm not talkign about people from Guatemalan league because those are obviously not in the game but i'm talking people who are in the game but in lower teams but if you notice everyone here is talking about Robben, Lampard and names like that.
Well maybe i'm being biased because i am korean, but i think Park Ji Sung from PSV Eindhoven is underrated.
how about :
david bentley norwich underratted
west brom the polish sub goalkeep is very underrated + G.horsefield is underrated
kanu is overrrated
middlesboro: boateng is underrated
charlton: rommedahl is overrated
bolton jaidi is underrated + pedersen underrated
blackburn : jon stead is underrated
aston villa: angel is SOO ovverrated , hitselperger ( sp ) is underrratted
liverpool: hammann = underrratted
fulham: diop underrated ( he is amazing at headers, shots)
birmingham maik taylor is underrated
Mohanned
19 June 05, 18:26
Tevez is underated :(
Madrileno
25 June 05, 15:04
PLF Thanks man for releasing ur great work for pubblic.
Please tell us when its ready to download man ur great keep it up.
Miguel(Benfica) is underated
Fabregas(Arsenal) is underated
Nilmar (Lyon) is underated
Juninho ( Lyon) is underated
Luis Fabiano(Porto) is underated
Iaquinta ( Udinese) is underated
Robben (chelsea) is underated
Carvalho ( chelsea) is underated
Del Horno (A.Bilbao) is underated
Riquelme ( Villareal) is underated
Ballack (Bayern) is underated
Cech (Chelsea) is underated
Lampard (chelsea) is underated
Gerrard (liverpool) is underated
L.Garcia(Liverpool) is underated
Tevez (Boca) is underated
Park (Psv) is underated
Toldo (Inter) is overated
Vieri(Inter) is overated
Beckham (R.madrid) is overated
Glavisted
25 June 05, 17:09
I think Michael Owen and Christian Vieri are the most overated now.
PLF Thanks man for releasing ur great work for pubblic.
Please tell us when its ready to download man ur great keep it up.
Miguel(Benfica) is underated
Fabregas(Arsenal) is underated
Nilmar (Lyon) is underated
Juninho ( Lyon) is underated
Luis Fabiano(Porto) is underated
Iaquinta ( Udinese) is underated
Robben (chelsea) is underated
Carvalho ( chelsea) is underated
Del Horno (A.Bilbao) is underated
Riquelme ( Villareal) is underated
Ballack (Bayern) is underated
Cech (Chelsea) is underated
Lampard (chelsea) is underated
Gerrard (liverpool) is underated
L.Garcia(Liverpool) is underated
Tevez (Boca) is underated
Park (Psv) is underated
Toldo (Inter) is overated
Vieri(Inter) is overated
Beckham (R.madrid) is overated
AGreed with most of what you said and thanks for compliment. Yes I will release when it's done now.. I've made up my mind and realize that I'm not only data freak on these forums and there are many others who'd enjoy much better stats in ML so If I can give back something small to the community which has given me so much especially since I will have to go through no EXTRA trouble as I'm doing this for myself then yeah I think I'm gonna release.
Your list is good too... I agree with most but there's about 1000 other players I'd like to add to that Under-rated AND over-rated list ;) but I'm not gonna bother hehehe... as you can imagine. So all I can just recommend to anybody about this is perhaps read this thread if you haven't already, I know many have:
http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?p=459431#post459431
and see if PLF data is for you..
MarioCarrillo
25 June 05, 20:27
UNDERRATED
Ballack
Lampard
Crouch
Rafael Marquez
Eto'o
Victor Valdez
Riquelme
and many Americans like:
Maxi Lopez
Maxi Rodriguez
Luis Perez
Omar Bravo
keeps going...
People in konami don´t even investigate they just put some numbers in player outside europe and they don't have any idea of the other players... anyway...
the worst is that they can be edited cause in the ML overithing goes to default...
Bloody bastards
dude read my post right above yours. If you care enough you'll get the update which is a PARA file which means the changes I've made STICK in ML.
Just read
AgentSmithMatrix
25 June 05, 21:24
Jamie Carragher is very underrated.
Madrileno
25 June 05, 22:16
Yep PLF I already posted in your thread in the edit section keep up the great work man this game will be a step closer to reality with ur work cause I will be conscious to play with realistic stats now.
Yep thank you I was talking about the other guy. These guys mention people one by one like Jamie Carragher but don't know all this will be in ONE thing plus many more.
By the way I updated thread with new list of players created for Ligue 1 ;)
Take care
Madrileno
26 June 05, 13:41
Veyyy good I will be checking it man.
i almost agree, but it's just a game. that's why we need this difference even though their gap is huge. :lmao: :lmao:
think about this. Konami is japanese game provider, so it's very related to japanese taste. they love Beckham. and see his ability. :)
just have fun~~~
Madrileno
4 July 05, 13:18
Beckham is a great player but he is not a world class like zidane ronaldinho etc...
Konami must be more acurate in player stats m its all about realism its important.
ooh_harry
17 July 05, 18:07
Overrated
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Adriano
(only has good shooting, power, strength/balance, shot technique, attack)
Vieri
Van Nistelrooy (remeber...he hasnt scored from outside the box for Man u)
Kewell
Cordoba
Toldo (conceded more than jens lehman...lmao)
Veron
Owen
Underrated
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Lampard
Fabregas
Robben
Cech
Ibrahimovic
Rooney
As. Cole
Terry
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