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LemonJelly
21 September 04, 09:38
Sony have gone the route of the PS1 by releasing a smaller model of the PS2, the SCPH-70000, which will be released in Europe and NA on November 1st.

Overall, the internal volume of the system has been reduced by 75%, the weight of the device has been cut in half, and the thickness of the system has been trimmed by approximately 60%. Its overall size is around that of your typical hardcover book -- putting it perfectly in line with its rumored consumer codename, the PSTwo.

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CW
21 September 04, 10:11
It begs the question, why?!?

LemonJelly
21 September 04, 10:17
It begs the question, why?!?

Money Money Money

Ike
21 September 04, 10:19
nice device.

Dead Man
21 September 04, 10:21
It will be just a games console so it will be cheaper so you dont have 2 buy it!

If its all about money dont give Sony your money pretty simpl!

I am getting 1 it looks cool an now i hope that xbox take note and shrink there brick of a console!

No network adapter need YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

ProEvo
21 September 04, 10:22
Any news on it's performance cause I'm buyin a new PS2 in a few weeks to play GTA:SA on (My current PS2 is one of the first versions and it doesn't like DVD's!;)) So it's either get a LE Silver PS2 or this one..................any suggestions????

Ike
21 September 04, 10:25
performance should be just the same. however this new model might not be modable for the next few months, so if that's important to you, i'd go for the silver one.

Dead Man
21 September 04, 10:27
performance should be just the same. however this new model might not be modable for the next few months, so if that's important to you, i'd go for the silver one.

Good point mate !

drwatz
21 September 04, 10:28
it's so small...... :cyclops:

Dead Man
21 September 04, 10:32
it's so small...... :cyclops:

The only thing i hate is they could of probably made it that size in teh first place!

babs
21 September 04, 10:45
Not at all, technology has moved a long way and lots of what was seperate in the original can now be put on a single chip.

gerd
21 September 04, 10:58
I like it...it really is small...

Dead Man
21 September 04, 11:04
I like it...it really is small...

I like it 2.....just got a job in HMV so i think i might get 1!

JimJoeC
21 September 04, 11:27
It begs the question, why?!?


Because they can?

Looks sleek as feck.

In 4-5 years they've reduced the size of the components to that, what'll the PS3 be like?

kel
21 September 04, 11:38
Wow, I like it very much. It looks so sweet. :P

But I don't think I will buy it as I still have a X-Box to buy for PES4 and like Ike said modding won't probably be possible for the first time.

Ike
21 September 04, 11:38
you can usually build a transistor-based component with half the size after 18 months (Moore's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_Law)).

ProEvo
21 September 04, 11:46
I'm not sure what to do, if I wait for PS2two, it'll mean buying GTA and then having to wait for the new PS2 to be released, but if the performance is pretty similar between the Silver and PS2two then it should be the silver one, BUT the new PS2 looks soooo sweet!!!!

I won't be modding my new PS2, I only play WE & GTA on it, everything else is on the X-Box!!

What to do????

Ike
21 September 04, 12:04
i'd get the new one if you don't need it modded right away and the price is ok. waiting one more week for GTA should be possible. ;)

i imagine it could be more silent than the normal ps2 as well.

Placebo
21 September 04, 12:11
Personally I'd only consider getting one if performance had been improved, otherwise I see no point :)

dark_dragon100
21 September 04, 12:24
As many people have said, this will be a fairly pointless project for Sony as 'many' people already own a PS2. Unless they release a LCD screen to promote its portability like the PSOne, having a console few centimetres larger wouldnt really make a difference at home.

JimJoeC
21 September 04, 12:30
you can usually build a transistor-based component with half the size after 18 months (Moore's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_Law)).


Smartarse ;)

Ike
21 September 04, 12:39
couldn't resist. ;)

babs
21 September 04, 13:01
I'm not sure what to do, if I wait for PS2two, it'll mean buying GTA and then having to wait for the new PS2 to be released, but if the performance is pretty similar between the Silver and PS2two then it should be the silver one, BUT the new PS2 looks soooo sweet!!!!

I won't be modding my new PS2, I only play WE & GTA on it, everything else is on the X-Box!!

What to do????
The performance will be identical, as for waiting, you realise you'd only have to wait 2 days right? :)

ClassicD
21 September 04, 15:49
I won't be modding my new PS2, I only play WE & GTA on it, everything else is on the X-Box!!

Surely it'd need a mod to play WE, and surely you'd rather play PES4 on XBL anyway? If I was buying a new PS2 anyway, I'd definitely grab the smaller one.

Slobber
21 September 04, 16:03
I'm on my third PS2 at the moment, if I ever need to get a new one, I'll get the new smaller one. ;)

babs
21 September 04, 16:17
Don't forget the smaller one will have an external brick type power supply. Also i would think the modding potential is pretty good, especially in the swap disc stakes as apparently it's toploading now.

ProEvo
21 September 04, 16:45
The performance will be identical, as for waiting, you realise you'd only have to wait 2 days right? :)

2 Days is a lifetime in the world of GTA.....................only kidding!!

I'll probably wait and buy the new smaller PS2, it'll look a lot sexier!!

Classic, ya right, I will be playin PES4 on X-Box, my old PS2 can handle WE ok tho....

bradley1886
21 September 04, 17:32
my ps2 is fucked. it doesn't play black or blue dicks and sometimes nothing at all. this could be exactly what i have been waiting for.

ps. will shops still buy my ps2 if the guarentee sticker has been removed? if thats the case then i will have to sell it someone else.

Dead Man
21 September 04, 19:42
my ps2 is fucked. it doesn't play black or blue dicks and sometimes nothing at all. this could be exactly what i have been waiting for.

ps. will shops still buy my ps2 if the guarentee sticker has been removed? if thats the case then i will have to sell it someone else.

I just sold mine to game aa they give the same price as gamestation! Not warranty sticker!

Revan
21 September 04, 19:53
looks great... the prob is that my ps2 is working perfectly!

drwatz
21 September 04, 20:01
I'll get it only if my old one dies ;)

H4RDY
21 September 04, 20:08
that console is absolutely amazing i know it will ont change the spec but it looks so beatiful.


its smaller than one of my school books!! Its a shame i dont think i will get one.

it looks wonderful

bradley1886
21 September 04, 23:14
how much would i get if i was to sell my ps2, original box and the game that was in there.

Holio
22 September 04, 01:28
Most Game Stores would probably give you about 30-40 quid for your old PS2, then add in games etc too that. Quite often they run a promo though to get trade ins and sell more 'NEW' consoles, so sales figures look higher, even though all people are doing is 'replacing' rather than getting a new console.

The PStwo does look very cool indeed, I recently bought a Silver PS2, but I may trade in my old Black one for this little one, though it sitting beside my Xbox it will look like a book mark.

woosoki
22 September 04, 03:08
If you are using or planning to use a hard drive with your PS2, this is not a good way to replace your PS2 because apparently there will be no way to hook up one. Sony must have taken a drastic measure to limit the potential use of PS2, like *cough* HDLoader. The compact size shouldn't make modding easier either, nor do I suspect changed disc loading mechanism would make disc swapping trick easier. Instead, it almost seems like Sony has declared PS2 is fully guarded against any kind of tampering. Interesting move.

Ashed
22 September 04, 09:46
I think it's pretty useless to be honest. Isn't the PS2 already behing performance-wise? Why release another version of the console when they should be working on the PS3? Almost everyone that wants a PS2 will probably already have one and not many people will buy this, I think.

Ike
22 September 04, 09:56
they also made another version of the PS1, and they still sell loads of it. many people will buy a new PS2 for the new GTA, either because their old PS2 (laser) is broken or they never had one. if they're smart, they will release a bundle with GTA in it.

babs
22 September 04, 10:55
I think it's pretty useless to be honest. Isn't the PS2 already behing performance-wise? Why release another version of the console when they should be working on the PS3? Almost everyone that wants a PS2 will probably already have one and not many people will buy this, I think.
It's cheaper for them to produce, takes up less room in warehouses, and it's still outselling the other consoles easily (atm 30,000 a week in Japan alone). The timing with GTA and this release is perfect and quite bluntly aimed at stealing Halo 2's thunder (which tbh I think it will do).

Work on the PS3 will continue as planned but the chip at the heart of it is only just being finished (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/15/cell_tapeout/) and high production of it wont start until next year there's precious little they can do in terms of manufacture. Even the replies in this thread show the interest from people who still have perfectly working PS2s, let alone childrens' parents looking to get 'one of those playstation things' for Christmas.

Jackothedon
22 September 04, 11:25
Incase you didn't know THE PStwo is flip top.

Pirate a hoy.

mezzle
26 September 04, 11:35
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/549/549986/new-ps2-media-20040921090951327.jpg

Picture of the flip top

Made another thread having not seen this one, must apologise for that!

I just bought a new PS2, i'm gonna give that one to my nephew and get this, easier to fit this and my cube in a smaller space in my room, I reckon they'll have worked on the performance of it aswell. Having no disk tray may help greatly.

Seraphs21
26 September 04, 11:48
Well atleast you wouldnt need to buy a network adapter if you bought this one as it has a built in one, so now sony are working on 3 consoles and a handheld gaming thing which are, PSP, PSTwo, PS3 and the PSX.

mezzle
26 September 04, 13:03
Well atleast you wouldnt need to buy a network adapter if you bought this one as it has a built in one, so now sony are working on 3 consoles and a handheld gaming thing which are, PSP, PSTwo, PS3 and the PSX.

PSTwo is ready for release pretty much so they're no longer working on it, it's gonna be released November 1st in the UK.

The PSX was recieved so poorly in Japan, I believe it was dropped by Sony.

So pretty much the PS3 and PSP is all that they're working on.

bradley1886
26 September 04, 18:53
how much does it cost to get a new laser? i might just get mine repaired if it doesn't cost too much.

Seraphs21
26 September 04, 19:24
Actually in the latest OPSM said what are you most waited for or something and they mentioned the PSX, anyway have you heard what the PS3 graphics are gonna be like. I found out because they said Fifa is already on the PS3 and saying what the graphics should be like sounded very realistic.

soman
26 September 04, 19:27
No HDD support :(

amaru
28 September 04, 12:25
I wonder how's the thing with modding it...

renegade1488
7 October 04, 19:59
I've had my PS2 since launch day and it's dying now :) so might have to 'reinvest' in one of these lol

Antedope
18 October 04, 23:01
I think we'll be able to use a spring method like on the ps1

seppovich
19 October 04, 11:04
the ps2-2 looks like you can not use an old multitap.

Holio
13 September 05, 19:40
Seems Sony has had a little hiccup just like MS did :

IMPORTANT SAFETY NOTICE

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Announces Recall of Certain AC Adaptors sold with the slimline PlayStation®2

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe (SCEE) has identified a possible safety concern with certain AC Adaptor units supplied with the new slimline PlayStation®2.


Certain AC Adaptors, identified as manufactured between August 2004 and December 2004, and supplied with the PlayStation 2 models SCPH 70002, 70003 and 70004 may overheat and cause an injury hazard to consumers. It is likely that some of these units may have been on sale after this date. No other PlayStation 2 units are affected.

To ensure the quality and safety of PlayStation products for consumers, SCEE has taken the decision to recall all affected AC Adaptors in Europe, Middle East, Africa and Australasia.

Consumers can also contact the dedicated recall Helpline on 0800 555 516
A new AC Adaptor will be provided free of charge, together with a postage-paid envelope to return the existing unit. Please do not take your AC Adaptor back to the place of purchase.

As a precautionary measure, and until a replacement is provided, SCEE advises customers owning one of the AC Adaptors affected by this Notice to unplug the PlayStation 2 from the power supply and discontinue use until a replacement AC Adaptor is provided.

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe would like to apologise for any inconvenience caused.


http://www.ps2ac.com/

Ike
13 September 05, 19:45
I have a model 7004, manufactured August 2004 but not the 'bad' adapter code. Lucky me. ;)

Dead Man
13 September 05, 21:51
I have a model 7004, manufactured August 2004 but not the 'bad' adapter code. Lucky me. ;)

Where did you get that model from?

Ike
13 September 05, 22:12
A german game shop. Model 70004 of course, not 7004.

Nebel
14 September 05, 00:30
It seems fantastic but I prefer old ones I have 30004 and I use HD.If I have slimone I cant use and also I cant play my backups;they are not good for slims laser is more sensetive!!Besides slims dont have fan(warn me if I am wrong) so in my country It can blow up like a bomb at summer!Lol!!hehe:)