CM5 and FM2005.

[Sulph]

Im confused, what are the differences between these two, or are they the same? And when will they be out? The most appealing thing to me about one of them is that i read somewhere that you can play manager mind games. Now that sounds like fun.

[Mart]

FM2005 is by SI interactive and is the proper 'Championship Manager' game I believe. Eidos have the rights to the name 'Championship Manager' but I don't think they got the actual game engine.

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyway, my money's on FM2005 being the decent one.

www.sigames.com

[Sulph]

Thanks Mart, i think ill go with FM2005 too.

[Mart]

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=56314

Preview of FM2005

[foxrocks]

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
You're totally correct.
Anyway, my money's on FM2005 being the decent one.

I think they both look decent. FM05 is going further down the CM4 route of almost bewildering tactical complexity, whereas CM5 seems to be returning to the more accessible style of CM01/02, which for me was probably the best in the series so far.

[cartman]

ill probably get both

[H@$$@N]

any release date...?

the game looks relly good ;)

[CW]

Champo is out the same day at GTA:SA, the 22nd October

Football Manager is out in December

[Metallica]

quote about the mind games that seems fun-

Manager ‘mind games’

Managers can click on any other manager’s name and issue a comment to the media relating to that person. The effects of these comments will see an increase in the amount of pressure surrounding title races, relegation battles, Cup ties and so on. It will also be possible to use this feature in relation to your own players, other clubs, media pundits etc[/quote]

[H@$$@N]

What is the diffrence betwem ChampionShip Manager 04/05 & Football Manager....?

[nufc_fan123]

can't you read more than 1 post in a topic?

[ClassicD]

Am I the only one who thinks this looks like nothing more than a CM4 add-on, ala 03/04?

I remember playing CM 96/97 on my Amiga, with the big 'DOMARK' logo and some generic old fart in a tracksuit as the intro screen. The foreign teams' players never had names, they were called 'No 11', etc. Your players would always refuse to sign a new contract and bugger off to Italy in the summer, happy days.

Then I finally got my first PC (486), and got CM2. Fucking hell, I enjoyed that so much. CM3 arrived years later and at first I found it hard, but with the new 01/02 pack it really cemented it's place as the No.1 game, although it never filled me with the same feeling CM2 did on arrival.

CM4 = pos. I lost my interest in it because of the amount of time you'd spend waiting for it to finish 'Processing', even when you mucked about with the database/league sizes. Not to mention, it must be a contender for buggiest game ever, and 03/04 is nothing but another patch. And it's still slow as shit.

[gunnerglory]

Does anyone know if there was ever any console based footie manager games released in the US? I miss playing Premier Manger on my PS2.... :(

[CW]

Apparently Champ Manager will be coming to the PS2, probably sometime early in the new year

[KOP_007]

Apparently Champ Manager will be coming to the PS2, probably sometime early in the new year

This is the killer and why Eidos have lost the plot and the true Champ Man fans.

FM2005 all the way for me. Though I'll of course give the new CM a go since it's out first.

[Sheep Shag Army]

Don't know if i should, but will get fm2005, the games are too damn additive and play hell with your social life lol. What a feeling though, getting your team to win the quadruple. I wonder which gem of a player will be found this year in the vain of braathen etc on 03/04

[foxrocks]

CM4 = pos. I lost my interest in it because of the amount of time you'd spend waiting for it to finish 'Processing', even when you mucked about with the database/league sizes. Not to mention, it must be a contender for buggiest game ever, and 03/04 is nothing but another patch. And it's still slow as shit.

Yeah. CM 01/02 is where it's at.

[SilverSpider]

I remember playing CM 96/97 on my Amiga, with the big 'DOMARK' logo and some generic old fart in a tracksuit as the intro screen. The foreign teams' players never had names, they were called 'No 11', etc. Your players would always refuse to sign a new contract and bugger off to Italy in the summer, happy days.



God Classic, you brought back a few memories of the very first CM Game for me there ! .... That big Gold Domark logo and the Manager that looked a bit "Big Ron-Esque" if memory serves, those Images are engrained for life now .... Happy Days indeed ;)

Seemed like back then everyone at your School had an Amiga in their House and they were all playing CM (and later SWOS).

Spending most of our School Days conversing passionately to different classmates about such varied and interesting topics as "Hidden Gem" young players .... Keith Gillespie being one of mine, believe it or not :shock:

And when not pissing your Education away, whilst you discussed the in's & out's of how to possibly lure "The Divine Ponytail" to your Wonderful club .... you were probably waxing lyrical to a very small but interested party about the Finer Moments of your All Conquering, Bedroom staged European Cup run from the Night Before ! :mrgreen:


For Me......Thats what made it so special back then the sense of a little community with You, your mates, Brother, Uncles and Dads all Discussing, playing and watching this NEW game building and growing each year until at some point it turned into the all conquering Financial Beast of a Series that we see Today.


Those were the Days ........... Somehow in Ten Years time I don't think I will be looking back with the same fondness on FM2005 ...... Shame That, but thats "Getting Older" for you ..... I guess :roll:

[ClassicD]

Yeah, everyone and their dog played Champ when I was at school. I don't think getting older should have anything to do with it, I still play plenty of games it's just that the series isn't as good as it was back then.

[SilverSpider]

I haven't played the recent series that Much to be Honest so I can't really say how it compares to the Earlier ones -


But having read Reviews on the Net and talked to mates there was mention of the Flaws you mentioned above - I'm Hoping to get back into the Manageent Game this Time around - and will probably give both CM5 & FM2005 games a runout like most of you Guys.


The "Getting Older" aspect is more a Personal thing for me, A sad realisation that I will probably never have the Time available to me that I used to have back then - when I could dedicate myself to a few lengthy stints on the Game without a worry. :D

I guess Memories of Old Games & a Time of carefree youth will always have me putting on my Rose Tinted Glasses from time to time ;)

[M@XiMus]

Just be patient guys, trust me when i say that football manager will be the best managerial sim ever.

Cham Man is dead...long live Football Manager!!!

[itaintrite]

Yeah, SI Interactive all the way.

[J@s0n88]

who is still playing champ manager 01/02? i'm still playing it. I hate cm4 onwards! all full of shit! anyone knows where to get a new update for my good ol' CM 01-02? :D

[EvolutionSwede]

There will be a new update for CM 01/02 in a few weeks over at
www.football-gamer.co.uk

[J@s0n88]

thanks alot evoswede... alexander farnerud used to play at where u live at. Where the hell is he now? and how is he doing?

[fd1972uk]

Sounds quite good, probably will try both, although I have hardly played the last CM game, probably ain't touched it for over 6 months now.


FD

[EvolutionSwede]

Off topic, but oh well...


Farnerud is playing for Strasbourg, don't hear much about him, guess he doesn't play that much.

[Milanista]

He scored on the weekend :)

[fedagent]

slightly off topic but does anyone know where to get the "no-cd" file thing for cm01/02. i have the original game already but my cd drive just makes so much noise and this would be more convinient. only goin back to it cos i found this patch at football-gamer.com where all the stats and players are updated and its pretty cool. unfortunately not all the latest tranfers are there, eg at man utd Pique is there but Rooney isnt. anyways if anyone can point me to where i can get the no cd file...

[foxrocks]

Try gamecopyworld.

[fedagent]

i did but there wasnt any links plus that site is filled with viruses

[Rafau]

football manager 2005 beta demo ---> available on 23rd September

[H@$$@N]

i still dont get what the diffrence betwen FM5 & CM5....

FM 2005 (PC)
Release: Dec 2004

CM 5 (PC)
Release: Oct 2004

[Juni]

FM2005 is developed by Sports Interactive and uses the same codebase as the previous Championship Manager series.

Eidos and BGS took the name and look of the Championship Manager series but then had to write the game from scratch. The result is the continuation of the CM series just in name.

[Ernestito]

football manager 2005 beta demo ---> available on 23rd September


great, its on my birthday

does somebody know where i can get patches, updates, logos etc. for cm 03/04?

i´m gonna play it for the first time tonight.

thx in advance

[H@$$@N]

www.thedugout.net

[Ernestito]

sukran hassan! :-)

[H@$$@N]

Football Manager 2005 is the new football management game from Sports Interactive and is set for release in Q4 2004. Here is a list of confirmed new features (check out the screenshots at the bottom of the page!)
Updated user interface

Football Manager’s user interface will look markedly different to anything that has come before. Navigation between screens will be easier, with each screen explaining what information is on offer and how to get to other, related information. Consistency between separate game elements will also be more noticeable than in previous football management games: operations such as player filtering and sorting will now work consistently throughout the game. The game’s look – which now includes a two-panel option – will also be easily customised, allowing managers to store their preferred views and to return quickly to them.

Refined game engine

Sports Interactive’s long-standing and award-winning game engine has been refined and tuned in accordance with the feedback received from fans of its previous games. For example, the new game incorporate more than 30 extra fields for player data, including the all-new new ‘preferred moves’.

Updated database and competition rules

As has always been the case with Sports Interactive’s management simulations, Football Manager 2005’s database and competition simulation will be as up-to-date and accurate as is humanly possible.

Pre- and post-match information

Managers will be presented with enhanced information before and after each match, to show team line-ups, injuries and tactics before the match, and lots of stats about the match afterwards.

International player news

For the first time, managers will receive information on international performances, allowing them follow their players’ careers and ascertain how they are performing at the highest level.

Cup summary news

Events which unfold in each round of all of the major cup competitions will be delivered to the manager in a news summary.

2D clips from agents

Managers are likely to receive ‘video clips’ (executed using the game’s acclaimed 2D match engine) of a player’s performances, sent to them by that player’s agent with view to a possible transfer.

Coach reports on squads

In addition to commenting on individual players, coaches will now offer their opinions on the squad as a whole, thus helping managers to decide which areas of their team need improvement.

Job centre for non-playing positions

Non-playing jobs will be advertised through an in-game ‘Job Centre’, improving the manager’s ability to hire coaches and other staff.

Mutual Contract termination

Managers will be able to offer surplus players an opportunity to agree mutual contract termination, which will reduce the cost of releasing players and trimming squads.

Enhanced player loan options

Managers can now approach other clubs to offer young players on loan, a process which will make it easier to give younger players competitive experience. Also, when players’ loan periods expire, the manager will have an opportunity to extend the loan (where appropriate).

Manager ‘mind games’

Managers can click on any other manager’s name and issue a comment to the media relating to that person. The effects of these comments will see an increase in the amount of pressure surrounding title races, relegation battles, Cup ties and so on. It will also be possible to use this feature in relation to your own players, other clubs, media pundits etc.

Football Manager 2005 – Further Features


Playable leagues in 43 countries.
More than 140 playable senior divisions and in excess of 100 playable cup competitions.
Reserve and junior league competitions.
More than 235,000 players and staff (from 145 different countries) with players boasting more than 120 separate attributes and non-playing staff boasting 40.
A database of more than 14,000 clubs, 3,000 of which can be managed.
Data supplied by a network of more than 2,500 researchers from around the world.
Updated 2D ‘top-down’ match engine.
Improved ‘radio commentary’.
Increased interaction with the media.
Reworked injury system.
Improved scouting system.
Improved finance module to reflect the changing face of football.
Comments when negotiating with human managers (network multi-player game only).
Inclusion of U18 Caps.
More realistic awards system.

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from the dugout.tv ;)

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looks really great , cant wait.. :D ,

it will be realesed in Dec. ;)

[Kenny M]

i got the beta demo of football manager 2005 this morning.

will be trying it out in a bit.

[Ernestito]

can we get the demo, too?

but i dont understand one thing.i always thought fm2005 is made by ea sports?

look here, the german fm2005 site www.fm2005.de

and the release is in 3 weeks.

edit: ok, i understand now.in england the game is called total club manager.

this means we will have 3 manager games this year

[Juni]

Just a reminder to you guys that the PC Beta demo will be released online at 3pm UK time this afternoon. :)

[Chris Bauer]

The beta demo is out NOW.

It's bloody incredible.

I'm absolutely gobsmacked.

http://community.sigames.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=21019056&f=521102691&m=923207064

[Sulph]

Ahh too many downloaders...

[Placebo]

Hmm I'm tempted to try it, I'm on holiday until next Thursday so perfect timing :)

[stiffler]

wish i found out about this earlier
i cant seem to connect to any of the servers offering the game :(

[Chris Bauer]

I'll happily MSN-it to anyone who's got Messenger (it's that good that I don't mind in the slightest - it's not like it will stop me playing the game anyway :D).

Address in profile. :)

Either that or someone with 32mb's worth of webspace give me a shout!

[stiffler]

cheers chris will add u now then!

[Ernestito]

i added you, too, waiting for your answer :)

[Oli]

How long is the demo? Half a season ?

[Chris Bauer]

How long is the demo? Half a season ?
Aye.

[Oli]

Quality! I'm getting huge speeds on torrent :shock:

97kb/s I think thats the fastest I've ever got... ever.

[Ernestito]

well, i cant see a difference compared to cm 03/04.

its the same game. :-s

[Chris Bauer]

well, i cant see a difference compared to cm 03/04.

its the same game. :-s
:shock:

The match engine is *totally* refined, the way everything reacts to everything you do...!!

Oh my God... Well, I guess you can't please all of the people all of the time! :-s

[Ernestito]

which engine?

well, i made a quick start and saw the 2d pitch like in cm. :)

[Gazz22]

Media comments are A LOT more risky now as they can effect how your team performs. My players disagreed with the first media comment I made, and I got drubbed 6-2 by Arsenal. When my players agreed with my second media comment I drubbed some team in my CL qualifier (a message came up saying Scholes especially liked the comment), and Scholes set up four goals and scored one.

[Oli]

Game just crashed and I didn't save :(

Is there anyway you can skip matches? This was the worst thing about CM. Friendlies you don't care about and you can't skip then. I don't wanna cancel em because players won't get match fitness.

So annoyed they didn't add it in.

[Gazz22]

Game just crashed and I didn't save :(

Is there anyway you can skip matches? This was the worst thing about CM. Friendlies you don't care about and you can't skip then. I don't wanna cancel em because players won't get match fitness.

So annoyed they didn't add it in.



Go on holiday for that match day.

[Sulph]

No no, just tell your asst manager to take control of friendlies..

[Chris Bauer]

No no, just tell your asst manager to take control of friendlies..
Exactly!! Don't go on holiday, the board will say you're a lazy arsehole!

Just go to "Options" and select "Assistant Manager - Takes control of friendly matches"!!

I think you're mental not watching them though - you're a lazy arsehole...

[stiffler]

have to say that i'm really enjoying the FM beta demo, all thanks to Chris!
have just placed my pre order on the game, only £18 which seems fairly cheap

[Coopz]

I dunno why but all i get is a black screen :(

[stiffler]

do u have windows 98 / ME?
the demo doesnt work on these

[Coopz]

No i have XP

[ash]

MrCoopz, do you have a folder in c:\ called Data? If so delete or rename it.

[H@$$@N]

when will the complete version will be realesed..

i know its in Dec. any specific date...?

;)

[Coopz]

MrCoopz, do you have a folder in c:\ called Data? If so delete or rename it.

Haha Thank you very much it now works :)

[Kenny M]

the release date for football manager 2005 is the 5th november.

[soman]

So how did it go for you guys?
I got 2nd 2 points behind Arsenal after 23 games
I signed during the winter break
Riquelme
Ronaldhino
Mista
Deco

Traded out Silvestre to get Ronaldhino


I didnt have time to try them on the pitch as the 23 games went out. Those players should give a flare to my attacks

With strikers such Rooney, Smith, Saha, Van Nistelrooooooooy. I might just have to change the goalkeeper. Doing a big clean up at Man Utd :)

[Kenny M]

i finished top of the league. after my 2nd go.

man utd 47pts
arsenal 41pts


signed

daniele de rossi
sanli tuncay
fernando cavenaghi

i signed de rossi to begin with and then tuncay arrived. de rossi was unhappy because of the arrival of tuncay saying that he feels that there is too much competition for a first team place.

then tuncay wanted to leave the club because he found it hard to settle in the area. he started missing training and i had to get rid of him. he still played really well though.

[soman]

I wish my Arsenal sucked as yours,

I got 55 points and Arsenal got 57

[Kenny M]

hehe!

i played mind games with wenger and arsenal lost 4-0 to me.

[renegade1488]

I preordered this one, a snip at £18 off play.com This demo is pretty decent, apart from the fact that it seems impossible for a striker to score in a one-on-one, but hopefully that'll be sorted out for the release. I just hope that people realise that this is the true successor to champ man

[soman]

Ye Wenger tried that too, stating he thought they would win and I answered I talk on the pitch I beat em 5-2
Boy he shut up but I dont do war words. And I am happy I praised Barcelona several time : ) And I signed 3 of their player

I have it on pre order as well

Edit
from play.com

[Sulph]

Glitch?
I chose to manage Chelsea and got 57M euros. Then i get fired for performing an ultimum to see what happens. I see that the firing does occur and then i retire and make another manager, I join Chelsea and have 76M.

[Kenny M]

you should report it to sigames and see if they will fix it.

[kevano22]

my game has crashed 3 times

"fm2005.exe needs to close" it just randomly appears

so ive not been able to get past my first friendly game

however i have ordered it off play.com because it is looking superb

[kevano22]

also now mine freeze when processing

when i go to task manager it says "not responding"

i hope they fix this in the real version :(

[Coopz]

I dont like it at all

[H@$$@N]

i dont know if you people know , but i read that most of you used torrenet .

there is a direct download link from www.thedugout.net

;)

[Chris Bauer]

The gold demo of Football Manager 2005 is NOW AVAILABLE.

Two versions; "vanilla", which is an English-language only demo with no sound, player faces etc. - and "strawberry", which is multi-language and comes with (how great is this?!) all the sounds, player faces, logos etc.

GET IT NOW!! (http://community.sigames.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=21019056&f=521102691&m=185204905&r=661205905#661205905)

[Mart]

Alternative downloads via BitTorrent, provided by EuroGamer. http://www.eurogamer.net/file_service_files.php?action=show_file&file_id=112

That was a lot quicker for me than waiting for the download servers at sigames to catch up.

[Milanista]

I love this game!!!! I cant believe Milan are licensed!!!!

Too bad we cant play online so far.

Whens the exact release date? and does cm have a demo yet?

[CW]

I love this game!!!! I cant believe Milan are licensed!!!!

Too bad we cant play online so far.

Whens the exact release date? and does cm have a demo yet?

FM 05 is out on Nov 5th, there is still no news on CM

[ClassicD]

Only played a couple of pre-season friendlies on the new demo, it seems to be organised a lot better than CM4 was.

[Mart]

This is fantastic (FM2005 demo). I didn't really play CM4 or the updates so I'm loving this again. Helping to recapture the CM memories of old. I've pre-ordered it now.

[ash]

Downlading the demo!

[Dar]

I can thank Mart for starting my addiction to this game. Damn him and his peer pressure. :mrgreen: ;)

Played it from about 7:30 to 3:30am last night. Just one more match......

[gerardXS]

i love this game! :D

[cartman]

cm 5 delayed possibly till next year

[Mart]

cm 5 delayed possibly till next year

Oh dear what a pity never mind...

[groovemaster]

Thats not a good start for Eidos - who is gonna wanna touch champ man when they will be about 20 seasons into FM2005 by the new year !?!?!!

[fd1972uk]

Played around with the demo, although not played many games, but think it's very very like the previous CM games.

Will defo get it though.


FD

[Jabber]

Last Management game I really played alot was CM4 and I wasn't dissapointed, I'm gonna go with this as CM was easily the best football management sim and I love the engine in previous CM games.

Demo's d/l'n now, can't wait!

PES4 on xbl, The next real CM game out on pc, it's all too much

I have a feelin I'll be havin a wonder over to play.com in a few hours. :)

[Jabber]

Well what can I say, I really like it alot!

I had a good look around in game to get me bearings again and I really enjoyed playin it,

4th in the league with villa, can't be bad although that was because of the brum match, 1st game of the season. I won the mind games with bruce and won the game 1- 0, but birmingham took out the whole of me left side, savage upto his ol tricks, I h8 that guy. :P Gonna pre order this asap.

Cheers for the heads up guys.

[Milanista]

Can anyone verify this?

Apparently you can get scouts to send clips of players.....

[stiffler]

yes i can confirm that
had a scout send me clips of a Seol from Wolves

[fenian]

CM4 was a bug ridden piece of shit and it almost put me off the series for good.

I'm glad it was almost. I've just finished playing the demo and I'd have to say I was mightily impressed. There weren't any bugs that I could see, the game palyed at a decent speed and the level of detail was great. The top down view worked well, though I've been a text-only fan in the past. It seems like a good job from SI, nice one and I think I'll go pre-order it now.

Even though it's the game CM4 should have been two years late.

You'd be a bit of a sap to go anywhere near Eidos version in the new year. SI - the travesty that was cm4 is forgiven.

[cartman]

less than 2 weeks to go

i cant wait

[Ernestito]

i want this damn game!!!

[ClassicD]

It does seem like FM2005 has brought back some of that 'old' Champ feeling that was missing completely from CM4 and it's addons. I went Inter - before a Serie A ball was kicked, Mihajlovic had missed training twice, told me he was going to see out his contract and leave for nothing, accepted a mutual termination of his contract, Vieri said he doesn't like me and slapped in a transfer request.

Lovely.

[CW]

It does seem like FM2005 has brought back some of that 'old' Champ feeling that was missing completely from CM4 and it's addons. I went Inter - before a Serie A ball was kicked, Mihajlovic had missed training twice, told me he was going to see out his contract and leave for nothing, accepted a mutual termination of his contract, Vieri said he doesn't like me and slapped in a transfer request.

Lovely.

It appears your reputation preceeds you mate ;)

[Mart]

It's officially coming out on Thursday now as well, which is nice.

Dear Sports Interactive customer.

I have some good news for you. Due to some unscrupulous retailers in Italy and Sweden who decided to start selling Football Manager 2005 early without permission, ourselves and Sega have made the decision to bring the release date of Football Manager 2005 forward to this Thursday, November 4th.

So, that means that you'll be able to buy Football Manager 2005 from this Thursday from all good, and some bad, retailers. A full list of UK and Irish retailers stocking the game can be found at http://www.sigames.com/news.php?type=view&article_id=1055

If you do not live in the UK, then the release date for the game is now thus -

4th November

Turkey
Germany
Switzerland
Benelux
Spain
Bangladesh
Hungary
Portugal
Malta
Cyprus
Israel
Italy
Singapore
Nordic
UAE
France
Iceland
Romania
Slovenia
South Africa
Greece

10th November

Czech Republic
Poland

12th November

Australia
New Zealand
South Korea

3rd December

China

To be announced

USA
South America
Canada
Japan
Indonesia
Malaysia
Thailand

We hope you enjoy Football Manager 2005 as much as we enjoy making it, and we apologise about any release date confusion - but at least it's being brought forward, rather than slipping!

Cheers

Miles

[fd1972uk]

I'm looking forward to this baby. :)



FD

[quirkovski]

order mine off play.com and the game is at the processing stage before been sent, with a bit of luck it will be here on thursday mornin but most likely gonna be friday!

[Mart]

Mine was posted today from Play. The last game I got from them arrived the next day so I can but hope. Normally it takes a few days though...

[Tom]

Does anybody know how to play in windowed mode? I tried to add "-small_screen" but it doesn't do shit...

[slasher]

this game sounds good, haven't played a championship manager game in years. prob get it but not sure where im gonna find time to manage san andreas, pro evo online, cm5, my girlfriend and a job. were theres a will there a way i suppose

[Milanista]

Screens of CM5 look horrible. FM is doing quite nicely.

[ClassicD]

Kezz it may be to do with your desktop resolution, try increasing it.

I'm getting a bit fed up with certain aspects of the game already, my team constantly has stats of like:

Shots - 20
On Target - 4

They're not even long shots, they're bloody good chances. My team also seems incapable of playing well against bigger sides.

[Milanista]

I seem to get injuries every goddamn day. I havent even touched the training program and ive rested players like in CM 03/04.

[slasher]

so what do uz reckon is gonna be better football manager or CM5??whats the story with these 2 are they linked in anyway?

[Milanista]

They were, before SI games and Eidos split up. Now SI games makes FM with sega, and Eidos makes CM 5.


CM5 looks kinda dodgy and 'cheap' compared to the fancyness of FM.

[Tyrian³]

I'm playing FM2005 and I'm enjoying it a lot!! That's so much you can do, there are many improvements, and the speed of the game is better too.
The videoclip thing is very funny!!
I have yet to discover so many things...still in preseason! :mrgreen:

[Tom]

Kezz it may be to do with your desktop resolution, try increasing it.

Found it, "-windowed -small_screen" did the trick :)

[fd1972uk]

Kezz it may be to do with your desktop resolution, try increasing it.

I'm getting a bit fed up with certain aspects of the game already, my team constantly has stats of like:

Shots - 20
On Target - 4

They're not even long shots, they're bloody good chances. My team also seems incapable of playing well against bigger sides.

Well your Celtic aren't you? :lol:


FD

[ClassicD]

No, I'm Inter Milan!

[EvolutionSwede]

I played it, got horrible CM 03/04 flashbacks, uninstalled it. Whopee.


And as for the fullscreen/windowed thing, I got an error message when I tried adding "-windowed", but when I added "-small_screen" and then changed it to windowed mode while in the game, it worked.
But bleh, here's hoping CM 5 will be more like the old versions.

[advin]

anybody know steward dowling of boro good anot?like real life cos want to replace my old giggs soon...want to look for a cover and future...and also a cover for ronaldo orn the right...would love a young brtish player...also between -$4M cos my transfer budget for man u is $5...flectcher is goog but not gd enoguh....

[Zlatan#9]

Whack game. Bring back the good ol' times à la CM 01/02!

[Milanista]

Got it today. Not too bad, but its bringing back nightmares, like one said above, of CM 03/04. I seem to be losing interest. ONly online is worth a go really.

[kevano22]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/kevano2/pool.jpg

that somes it up lol nah i know its only the under 18's but i really did hammer them, every friendly ive played ive won by at least 3 goals and had between 20-40 shots in the match

i have only played shiity teams tho

oh and the game after that

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/kevano2/pool2.jpg

[Jabber]

Just installed my copy, here we go!

[Milanista]

Abit dodgy. So many more chances than comp, and they still score. I have 50 chacnes a game and never score.

[Oli]

My first 4 games of the season...

Blackburn 0-0 Arsenal
Arsenal 7-1 Portsmouth
Crystal Palace 0-3 Arsenal
Arsenal 7-0 Bolton

What's wrong with this game. I seriously want my money back.

[foxtrot]

i got FM2005 on Wednesday. Loving it. Especially making it publicly known that I hate Martin O'Neill.

[kevano22]

im started to become disapointed

i won like 10 games in a row, then played arsenal away....got beat 6-2

this just doiesnt happen,m specially when ive been creating around 20-40 shots per game

the game needs patching fast

big disapointment

[Milanista]

Im fed up. This game is as rubbish as the previous one. ARGH. Had high expectations.

Each game i get 30+ shots. Some games the comp has 3 shots, but scores 2, and i have 30 shots and score 2. Some games i win 7-0 or 6-0.


FUCKING GAME!!!!

[stiffler]

i am not liking all these negative comments :(
got the game this morning and haven't had chance to play yet, but by judging some of the comments so far it doesn't look good

[foxtrot]

Haha. I was going through the regens player faces folder looking for my mate only to find at image 4583.jpg it's evo-webs own Chris Davies formerly Jack Bauer.

:lol:

[kevano22]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/kevano2/weird.jpg

whats with all the bugs

i do like this game, but it has so many unrealistic things its stupid, needs sorting

[stiffler]

just a quick question on this game
if a 'patch' type of thing is released like in previous versions does if we add this patch do we have to start over?
just asking now as dont want to carry on playing for like 5-6 seasons filled with 'bugs' only to find out i have to start again
cheers

[kevano22]

think so, but im not too sure. in the previous games ive always started a new one anyway but thinking about it, you shoouldnt really have to

[biggertam]

i got FM2005 on Wednesday. Loving it. Especially making it publicly known that I hate Martin O'Neill.

lol...got it on sat ...loving it as well.

[stiffler]

i am around 10 games into my first season and so far i have to say i am pretty pleased with the game
its a lot faster than cm4 (still not as fast as i would like though)
doing pretty well with Everton and have bought robinho, andy reid - who is out for 2 months as soon as i bought him :roll: and have good old freddy adu coming to me on january 1st :D
had one 'glitch' so far: i purchased andy reid (after having a number of bids for him dismissed) and when i finally got him i had a message saying that andy reid was disapointed at everton for not allowing him to move to everton!?

[Gazz22]

Milan's youngsters are superb. Nearly all of them are 14, 15 and 16, and have fantastic starting stats.

[Milanista]

Milan is a great club isnt it? :)

[foxtrot]

Don't buy Derek Riordan. He's a pratt.

He got homesick from Edinburgh!!! I'm Glasgow Rangers!!! It's less than an hour away in the car!!

So I give him leave for a month then he comes back and is homesick again and hates my guts!

Wanker.

[Gazz22]

I just wasted nearly all of my (I'm Inter) transfer budget on nearly two teams of top Milan youngsters. :D

[fd1972uk]

Does anyone play this on-line against another player?

I've had mega-problems with it. We managed to get a game underway, however now that I goto load up the game again, the player I'm up against can't get into the server and choose his existing manager. I tried a couple of things too, and can't choose my player now.

Anyone know what I'm slabbering about?

Cheers.

FD

[loz]

Is there a way you can doa quick search, like in the last CM where you could jsut type the fella's name in?

cheers, Loz.

[ClassicD]

Sorry Frank, never tried playing online with this one cos the previous releases have been so slow online.

Loz, top right-hand corner, there's no search bar thingy?

[kevano22]

online play is far better than last years cm

still a bit slow tho

[loz]

Sorry Frank, never tried playing online with this one cos the previous releases have been so slow online.

Loz, top right-hand corner, there's no search bar thingy?
Yeah i just wasnt looking in the right place, cheers CD.

[loz]

Haha. I was going through the regens player faces folder looking for my mate only to find at image 4583.jpg it's evo-webs own Chris Davies formerly Jack Bauer.

:lol:
LOL, that really is true as well, how did this happen?

[Revan]

IMO this is the best version so far... but sure there are sometimes irrealistic scores! I'm playing with Porto, who as by far the best team in the Portuguese superleague. Diego is a wonderkid, scores lot's of goals and almost always is man of the match...

Weird thing in the game, my forwards and midfielders make a alout more fouls than my centre backs or side backs! Maybe it has something to do with my strategy!? Example... Jorge Costa (CB) had at the end of the season around 10 fouls and 5 yellow cards! Diego had 60+ fouls and 26 yellow cards... Everygame my midfielders and forwards get a yellow... I think it's because of the instructions made somehow my players to foul to prevent the opponent from counter-attacking... I rarely get a goal a from C-A. On the other hand i score lots of goals in C-A situations. :P

[foxtrot]

LOL, that really is true as well, how did this happen?
There was a competition over at sigames.com that if you sent in a decent enough photo of yourself, your pic would be put in the game and appear as a youngster in seasons to come.

[loz]

o right, didnt you try it then FT?

[foxtrot]

o right, didnt you try it then FT?
When I tried, I think it was too late. The page wouldn't work and kept sending me to the page I just came from.

[biggertam]

Does anyone play this on-line against another player?

I've had mega-problems with it. We managed to get a game underway, however now that I goto load up the game again, the player I'm up against can't get into the server and choose his existing manager. I tried a couple of things too, and can't choose my player now.

Anyone know what I'm slabbering about?

Cheers.

FD

i dont know if its the same prob i had but im playing against my cuzinz uncle im Celtic hes Rangers....and i got cut off when got the game back up the thing said i was not connected but i worked out u need to click on the ''not connected'' and it comes up with resume cont' of team (or somthin like that)

if it is that hope that helps.

[cartman]

Patch due soon

check out official fm 2005 website forums for details

[proxi]

just a quick question on this game
if a 'patch' type of thing is released like in previous versions does if we add this patch do we have to start over?
just asking now as dont want to carry on playing for like 5-6 seasons filled with 'bugs' only to find out i have to start again
cheers
Well, looking at this mate, regarding the upcoming patch...

"Please note that the patch : - is save game compatible. - does not require you to start a new game, however for the best results it is suggested."

Wahey.

[stiffler]

thanks for that mate :D

[H@$$@N]

Is there any editor that i can use on a saved game without starting over....?

[newLok]

what makes football manager quicker to load?
1/ faster processor
2/ more/faster RAM
3/ more/faster harddisc

[Chris Bauer]

Start your engines... The v5.0.2 patch is released tomorrow afternoon (http://community.sigames.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=21019056&f=521102691&m=990209218) from SIgames.com (http://www.sigames.com).

[grim]

Your a fake.

[quirkovski]

the patch is out now.

www.sigames.com
www.thedugout.net

[newLok]

what makes football manager quicker to load?
1/ faster processor
2/ more/faster RAM
3/ more/faster harddisc

anyone know?

[Coopz]

Thats one thing thats great about FM2005 the speed

i have 6 players here and we have finished a season in 3 days

[Sulph]

AGH
Im so inconsistent in this game.
Im chelsea.
Its like win lose win lose. Pisses me off.
Anyone got any good tactics?

[Milanista]

Get the patch., makes the game playable.

Sulph - try 4-4-2 diamond, or just a flat 4-4-2.

Does anyone know what happened to CM5? Is it dead?

[crayon]

Quirkovski, like the avatar! :shock: :lol:

[Chris Bauer]

Get the patch., makes the game playable.

Sulph - try 4-4-2 diamond, or just a flat 4-4-2.

Does anyone know what happened to CM5? Is it dead?
Technical problems (or if the rumours are to be believed, Eidos shitting themselves after playing FM2005 v5.0.2) have put the release back to early next year.

[crayon]

Technical problems (or if the rumours are to be believed, Eidos shitting themselves after playing FM2005 v5.0.2) have put the release back to early next year.
Any later and it will have to be CM2006 :lmao:

[Sulph]

If i patch my game to 5.02 (Football Manager 2005) and run my game as a server, can my friends without the patch still play on my server? Or do they need the patch too?
Thanks in advance.

[Milanista]

They need patch.

[phrase]

Can anyone tell me if theres a save game utility for FM 2005?

[brianwong]

Save game utlitity? What do you mean?

Anyways, I'm Palace and I got 3rd in my first season (4-5-1 custom-made tactic).

I find that (unlike previous games) you have to actually adjust and tweak tactics game-by-game (even moreso when you're supposively weaker teams like Palace). Even with teams like Chelsea you can't win by just putting up a 4-4-2 formation and selecting your team!

[phrase]

Save game utlitity? What do you mean?

Anyways, I'm Palace and I got 3rd in my first season (4-5-1 custom-made tactic).

I find that (unlike previous games) you have to actually adjust and tweak tactics game-by-game (even moreso when you're supposively weaker teams like Palace). Even with teams like Chelsea you can't win by just putting up a 4-4-2 formation and selecting your team!
Yeah balls,I have a tough time too,adjusting tactics for certain teams,I'm into my 25th game in the season now,2nd in the league,7 points behind Arsenal and 5 ahead of Chelsea.A very realistic game in terms of stats.Am I the only person to realise that Chelsea is not as strong as real life? http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif Ouh...i love the mind games...and my best manager mates are Bruce,O'Leary and McLaren...and my worst enemy are obviously Wenger and Mourinho!! http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[whatwentwrong]

how do you make some managers as your favourite personel? is it by simply praising them?

[phrase]

how do you make some managers as your favourite personel? is it by simply praising them?

Yea bro,but its fixed in the game,certain managers have a certain liking for one another,others dont.I'm playing as United's manager and I've always had Wenger and Mourinho throwing stick at me like,how my team is not strong enough,how I wont win it this year and so on.The you got people like O'Leary,Bruce and McLaren praising you on what you have done at your club.If you had kind words thrown at you,ofcourse,you say nice things back about them...then,those managers will be your friends.I recently beat AC Milan in a CL semifinal and Ancelotti praised me for the result and we became best friends.http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

[whatwentwrong]

wow~ cool! i dont think i wanna make rival-ry with all the big teams' manager because i'm only playing as Stoke- just got promoted from the first division. I got Graversen,Pedersen and Djordic for free! i'm planning to buy Scott Carson next season as i do not have enough money

i hope my team will perform well in the epl.. i'm expecting my team to finish in the top 10-- if thats possible :D

[cartman]

you can also use this to unsettle players

i slagged off martin jol and kevin keegan so much that wright phillips and ledley king were soon putting in transfer requests and were in my line up.

took a season and a half but i got them both fairly cheaply

[Zygalski]

Why are these games both in the same thread?

[Milanista]

Is the game coming or not? CM5 has been invisible for the last 2 months.... its already 2005.

[Sulph]

OK 5.0.3 is out now.
Some are still lookin for the NO CD.

[EatonTJ]

OK 5.0.3 is out now.
Some are still lookin for the NO CD.


I am one of those someones. Can really play this in the middle of class if I have to insert the damn CD. That's a little too conspicuous. And I don't have the space to mount the damn CD until I get around to cleaning up my computer.

Damn porn.

[Milanista]

I need a no CD too. I cant listen to music in the same time !! I wanna avoid using the CD.

[Sulph]

Yeah same, i really wanna play. :( Anyone have it?

[Sulph]

Anyone have a real time editor for 5.0.3?

[Milanista]

Found a way to crack myself :)

[ClassicD]

Throw yourself off a very tall building?

[Milanista]

No, but i can explain how... but not too sure if its legal to post it.

[Baggs]

i read somewhere u can get it working with daemon tools and a mounted mini-image of the game.

[Milanista]

I hve the mini image and tahts how i did it. PM or MSN me if u need it.

[fishcake]

i've managed to get hold of cm5 early (if you know what i mean ;) )

not had chance to play it yet but have just started a new game, at the league selection screen i clicked on recommended and it selected every league from all 26 nations in the game, 10 minutes later the games set up and ready to start, don't know whether to take that as a good sign or not as it takes me about 15 minutes to set up fm2005 with just all the english divisions selected

anyway gonna give it a go and see how it compares to past versions and fm2005, i'll post some more thoughts later

[Coopz]

Yeah im gonna give it a go now as well

My mates have already picked there teams for tomorrows session so hope its ok :)

[Milanista]

The game has rubbish multiplayer mode. To play against friends you need to pay 4 pounds a month.... rubbish idea. Youre not allowed to add another user either to your offline games, making it worse when playing with friends.

Gameplay isnt as great as they made it to be, im still sticking to FM 2005 with patch 5.0.5.. which is class.



The interface of CM5 is also rubbish imo.

[Coopz]

I quite like it

Although there is some things missing which i like

such as Offer players to clubs and Enqire about players

but i like the fast skip thing which plays matches in about 20 seconds

[reefur]

i agree wit milanista...fm2005+mini image+5.0.5 seems alot better than cm..although cm has some nice touches to it....looks liek ill stick to fm2005 as well...
to patch fm2005:
download latest patch
install with your real .exe in the game folder not the cracked one(ive noticed this isnt always needed but to be safe..and the cracked one is illegal anyways!.)
search google football manager 2005 mini image(nuff said)
load mini image in daemon tools(latest) and enjoy..just for those guys who didnt know...since it seems groups have forgotten about this game pretty much....

[Coopz]

Can i play CM5 with my mates?

i cant find no options

[beanface16]

Doesn't sound like it but ive not bought it yet, im too addicted to FM

[kevano22]

avoid this game at all costs

[Coopz]

I cant believe how stupid they are

What a nice way to introduce the new series of CM

Missing multiplayer is like Konami taking it out of PES, i can see loads of people buying this and being very dissapointed with the lack of multiplayer as i only found out from Champ forums so they wont have a clue

[CW]

They give the game online play and remove the bit where you can play in a room with your mates. Thats genius!!

[Milanista]

This game is shite!!!!!

Coventry's Budget is 25 m!!!!!!!!!! Some games end up with 50+ headers per team and over 30 shots per team as well. Highest score ive had is 7-2 against Hertha Berlin who arent that bad at all. The match engine is so choppy and the AI are so dumb dumb and stiff. The commentary even says THROW IN when its a PK.

What a rubbish game. Waste of money..... + paying the money to go online




no wonder Eidos are going broke....

[Milanista]

Its seriously a big joke :

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/Insanemadman/8-1.jpg - look at stats
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/Insanemadman/5goalsbut3rating.jpg - look at ratings
http://fmbreizh.free.fr/cm5/cm56.jpg - france team
http://x2.putfile.com/3/7416064047.jpg - coventry budget

[fishcake]

Its seriously a big joke :

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/Insanemadman/8-1.jpg - look at stats
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/Insanemadman/5goalsbut3rating.jpg - look at ratings
http://fmbreizh.free.fr/cm5/cm56.jpg - france team
http://x2.putfile.com/3/7416064047.jpg - coventry budget

yeah it's totaly fucked up

can't believe coventry have a budget of £25m, even liverpool only have £11m

the match engine is terrible, i've seen players chasing a ball then just stop dead for a few seconds allowing an opposing player to catch up and intercept the ball, just seems so dumb, i've seen balls go out on one side of the pitch and the throw in given on the opposite side instead, same for corners

the only things i like about it are the game speed and the freedom in the tactics to place players wherever you want and instruct them to make runs anywhere on the pitch, this wasn't enough to stop me unistalling the game though

just glad i downloaded and tested it first without wasting any cash on it

[Coopz]

I had 7 penos in 7 games :)

Anyway we started FM again today with the 5.0.5 patch so its not all bad

[OPM]

Its seriously a big joke :

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/Insanemadman/8-1.jpg - look at stats
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/Insanemadman/5goalsbut3rating.jpg - look at ratings
http://fmbreizh.free.fr/cm5/cm56.jpg - france team
http://x2.putfile.com/3/7416064047.jpg - coventry budget
Savio? :lol:

[crayon]

Just plain bad. Will stick with FM2005. Bye, bye CM!

[Coopz]

Here guys i have a question for ya

i have these players in my FM team

Terry, Gallas, Ferrera, Dede - DEF

Robben, Duff, Baptista, Lampard, Gerrard - MID

Drogba, Crespo, Baptista - FWD

I cant find a formation for these players

I wanna play 2 up front but that means dropping either Baptista, Gerrard or Lampard and i dont really wanna play 3 at the back because i think 4 at the back is more stable

What formation would u play with these first teamers?

[Milanista]

4 defenders
2 CMs
2 AM LR (the slot above halfway line)
2 Strikers

[Coopz]

ill give that a go now

Which 2 would u play CM?

[Milanista]

Gerrard - Lampard. In need of attack, put 2 arrows up untl the AM line.

[Coopz]

Ok

ill post my results in 5 minutes

[Coopz]

Lost 3-2 away to newcastle

im gonna resart this season anyway becuase its shit slow

my mates wont be very pleased :)

[Milanista]

What team are you coopz? Im 3rd with liverpool in my online game with Noted. Ive got one of the league's best attacks with Cisse top scorer. Hes newcastle and is around 8th.

[Coopz]

Im Chelsea mate

others mates are Man Utd, Arsenal and Tottenham

Im Top, Man u 2nd, Spurs 8th and Arsenal 18th!!!!

But we have been playing it 2 days and only played 8 matches

I am never EVER choosing "Extra Detail" ever again

[Coopz]

Well now im playing 4-3-3

Torres, Ronaldo and Drogba are banging the goals in

[Milanista]

Heres my current Liverpool online with Noted:

http://img225.exs.cx/img225/5459/gcs00021py.th.jpg (http://img225.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img225&image=gcs00021py.jpg)

[fd1972uk]

Anyone ave any problems with FM 5.0.5. with it just crashing to desktop when I try to start a game up? :(



FD

[Milanista]

I havent installed 5.0.5, ive got 5.0.3 which is class. What exactly is the difference ?? They were released in the same week.

[Coopz]

i have 5.0.5 and it works fine

1 thing i do like about the patch is that its really hard to find a tactic to suit ur team so alot of tinkering is needed

[ash]

Anyone got CM5 yet? Any good?

[Coopz]

wannkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

dont touch it with a barge pole

[Metallica]

Just got FM2005

When applying the patches do you have to put them on in order like 5.0.1 to 5.0.2 etc

[diego_robinho]

I have to agree with some of the comments made although its a magical game (fm2005) sometimes its untrue for example having 30-40 shots a game and scraping a 1-1 draw with the computer team having 1 shot on target but overall its pure class already won the Greek league with Olympiakos (Romario is legendary for 1 season then he retires!) the press were like Romario past his best? so i praised him ended up my top assist player and 2nd top scorer considering i got him half way through the season that was some achievement. But im top of the Czech League with Sparta Prague also ive just started a game with Santos and will be Man Utd next. someone earlier mentioned scouts sending videoclips of players can someone expand on that for me because thats new to me, can this be done? if so how, id like to know.

[kingpug]

Yea same Diego, the shooting on the game is utter bollocks, thats the only reason I never played the game for long, was because of the shooting.

Doesnt matter who I went, I started a season with Celtic, Barcelona, Arsenal, Chelsea and Man UTD, and every team struggled to score, they have about 20 shots on goal, and like 5 on target, while the CPU run down the pitch, take ONE shot and score, utter nonsence.

Or the GK kickouts, 80% of them go back to the CPU, and the cards?..I was getting like 1 red every game, the AI is terrible, not even worthy of a game.

[Chris Bauer]

"Big announcement" to be made within the next few hours... Just informing you all.

www.sigames.com

[Stringer Bell]

I want to get A CM/FM game but don't know which one is good. Can someone give me a brief review on both of the games and tell me which one i should get.

[ash]

Just get FM mate, CM is shoooooo SHITE! I'm not lying.

[Stringer Bell]

Just get FM mate, CM is shoooooo SHITE! I'm not lying.

How bad is it?

[Chris Bauer]

Disgraceful. Data is awful, players have completely wrong positional data (Nistelrooy has played in defence for Man U more than once). 10-0 scorelines aren't uncommon. Coventry have a budget of £10 million. Tranmere (in debt in real life) have a similar budget. I wanted it to be a real alternative in FM and I always thought it would be - I didn't expect it to be bad, let alone how bad it is.

Edit: The "big announcement" has been postponed to Monday due to legal and licensing reasons. It's confirmed to be FM related, predicted to be FM2006 news - so it's sounding good... Here's hoping it's a Winning Eleven\FM combination :D

[lumlum]

I just played the gold demo of FM2005, which I suppose is based on one of the recent patches.
The game is friggin' amazing! The number of players and clubs in this game is unbelievable, it seems like you can find at least 6 teams from any league in the world.
I was surprised to find Batistuta in the game since I didn't expect al-Arabi to in it, I bought him as Man Utd. Awesome!

[Chris Bauer]

It's strange the amount of people who overlook it - my brother-in-law played nothing but Pro Evo and I tried to get him into (what was at the time) CM (now FM). He thought it looked okay but wasn't really struck. Next night he wanted another go after he'd been thinking of a few things he could do with the squad... Next night he wanted to see if he could loan a star defender... And years later he now plays FM more than PES.

(And his 11-year-old son - although he plays 4-4-2 every game as he "can't be bothered")

By the way, the gold demo (as far as I know, but I'm pretty sure) is unpatched. When you get the full game and patch it to 5.0.5 there's loads more neat features (such as "Interactive Chairmen" - if you get hired by someone like Chelsea and you don't buy any big names, the chairman suggests a few, and if you don't like them he buys them for you).

I can't wait for FM2006 and this announcement on Monday - it's hard to see how they can top this (but then I thought that when upgrading from CM to FM I suppose).

[PLF]

lol its weird all these people didn't know about SIgames and FM manager. Am I only one who got into FM formerly CM first then into PES/WE games ?? ;) lol.

I personally don't play FM because one day it just hit me and i just couldn't sit there look at dots move around anymore but before that for 4 years this game made me lose friends and gfs lol. It is the most addictive shit ever if you're into it but once it hits you and you fall out you just can't be bothered anymore :(

Anyways can anyone who has FM tell me how big these 2 files are: ??
server_db.dat and people_db.dat
because I need someone to send them to me

[loz]

20 and 80 meg respectively on my version.

And most people i know got into CM WAY before they got into PES (and then WE)!!!

I know these is a strange thing to say, but i just think the game is TOO in-depth now, and doesnt have that easy flow it used to have back in the day.

[PLF]

lol probably right and what turns me off about it is that because it's a managing game its very much dependant on STATS/attributes so seeing wrong stats/bad research here and there just shits all over my feeling to play where as in PES/WE at least you're controlling them.. so even if stats aren't dead right you can do something as you're in control but other game cuz you're watching.... stats determine everything and if they're not even close it pisses you off.

Anyways i'm gonna need someone to send me those 2 files only, if anybody is kind enough to wanna help PLF out. tell me here... we'll add you on MSN and get this shit going.

take care

[kingpug]

I want them too, maybe an updated set so it makes converting the PES4 stats easier.

Anyone know where you can download updated databases with the most recent transfers?

[Milanista]

if you download patch 5.0.3 or 5.0.5 they include full transfers.

[kingpug]

I downloaded an update but EditPRO4 always says No CM4 data found :(

What do I do?..I copied the player_db and server_db into the directory, and get that message.

It only works if I keep the old cache in, which I dont want.

"CM / FM database format is constantly modified. Adapting to each new format modification is much time-consuming, so the editor may not support latest databases."

Suppose thats why, shame :(

[kingpug]

After playing the game for about 25 games, its the same old shit, Rooney hits it miles over the bar from their box, but they score into me from 30 yards out..

Its a load of bollocks, you play preston and have 19 shots and only 3 go on target, while none go in, just a joke.

Plus you get injury after injury after injury, plus your getting on average 3 yellow cards per game, pish game.

[Stringer Bell]

Ok right i will be getting this game then...i was nearly about to buy CM on the PS2...evrybody here slags it off and the same at PESFan.

[kingpug]

CM for the PS2 ROFL, I bought TCM 2005 for the PS2, played it for one day and never touched it, manager games for consoles are bloody shit.

[Stringer Bell]

CM for the PS2 ROFL, I bought TCM 2005 for the PS2, played it for one day and never touched it, manager games for consoles are bloody shit.

BAH :dwarf: Lucky i inquried here then.

[Milanista]

LMA Manager for PS2/Xbox isnt THAT bad, its the best on consoles imo.

[crayon]

LMA Manager for PS2/Xbox isnt THAT bad, its the best on consoles imo.
Still crap though...I'd rather play tiddlywinks.

[kingpug]

Yea, LMA is the best, but still crap.

I started ANOTHER season on FM with Ajax, still the same crap :(

I wonder what they even changed in the patch, it all seems the exact same to me, ah well..back to the shelf it goes.

[Milanista]

I think FM has its moments of goodness, but sometimes there is that period where you just cant do anything to influence results.

Anyway, its better than CM5 - lol the demo came out after the official release, or is the demo not out yet?

[Stringer Bell]

I just went HMV and saw they had CM4 for £10, do you lot think i should buy that because all i have to do is update the game. So should i get it?

[Milanista]

http://www.sigames.com/static/index.php

The Big suprise

[lumlum]

FM is coming to the PSP.

[kevano22]

fm2005 got the newest patch etc.

keeps crashing to the desktop tho. Their FM forums are a load of balls, they dont help you whatsoever, just say "scan your RAM" etc. Its pissing me off, just i was getting into it, it crashes to desktop like 3 times in an hour, causing me to play games again, which ive won, yet now i lose.

anyone any ideas how to fix it?

[lumlum]

Try this place.
http://www.thedugout.tv/community/index.php?

[kevano22]

and still they talk bullshit.

just started a new one with derby was enjoying it, got through the preseason entered the season and on the second game it just went to desktop

bullshit pc games

[lumlum]

:lol: I know what you mean. Losing save data is one of the worst things that can happen in a video game. I started auto saving after every week game time after that happened to me.

[RuneEdge]

I'm starting to get bored of manager games. Cuz once you finally win all the trophies in one season, you feel theres no possible way you can top that so whats left to play for?
I took me a couple of seasons in FM2005 to do it but once you do, it gets boring.
The only thing I havent done is manage a club and a nation but thats only cuz there arent any vacancies.

Hopefully the PSP version will get me playing again. It looked nice in that video above.

[kingpug]

Same can be said about PES, cant it?

Still, all depends what you do, do you go Real Madrid?..or do you go one of the crap teams from division 3 and help them win the EPL?

[RuneEdge]

I used Man Utd.
I could try one of the lower teams liek you said but that would take forever.