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Harvy2001
17 June 04, 13:56
http://www.hdloader.com/


Have you guys heard of the above utility disc coming out???


It lets you install a game to a HDD on the PS2 and boot it from their too, I dont know if this has been discussed here before but I have already ordered mine from Whitedog games, also Diveno sell it and I think other stores will soon.


Anyways I just thought imagine you could install 3-4 version of WE7 to HDD so easily and play any patch you liked without having to change disc !!!!!


The whole game runs from HDD so loads times are virtually non-existent Ive heard.

Fred_Gavioes
17 June 04, 16:53
never heard of this thing, but im gonna check it out, it looks bueno.

wolvesfan
17 June 04, 21:32
Apparently, if you have a copied CD, you can copy and run it from the hard drive without any chip or swap method. :shock: You need something for DVDs though :(

BigRickRFC
17 June 04, 22:12
this looks sweet..... i have a spare hard drive here 80gb this is very tempting also i think my laser is about to chuck it so it would save the wear and tear over time :twisted: :twisted: ;)

grim
18 June 04, 01:17
looks good not a bad price.

jumbo
18 June 04, 05:37
Apperantly I have a v7 PS2 + DMS3 2.2 flash + 120GB Maxtor + HDLoader.

And no you cannot install copied / import games... :(

I have to admit that the originals that i installed worked very nicely though. I have a fast hdd and they load ultra fast and you save the laser of course.

If anyone has managed to install backups and has DMS3, let me know.

cfdh_edmundo
18 June 04, 06:44
we need to ask babs about this, im sure he'll know more about it and what it can do.

wolvesfan
18 June 04, 08:13
For anyone who has them:

We have now sorted how to install PS2 DVD back-ups to the HDD for Flip-Top and Slide Card users! To do so, you must simply follow this process EXACTLY:

1. Boot up HD Loader
2. At main menu, use EJECT button to insert Swap Magic DVD
3. Go to install, the Swap Magic DVD will stop spinning
4. Swap with your back-up via Flip-Top or Slide Card
5. Press OK to install

* CDR back-ups can be installed directly from HD Loader so no Swap Magic Disc is necessary for them, however, "homebrew" CDR compilations (emulators) are not supported yet by HD Loader.

Jumbo try pressing select when hilighting a game and a "hidden" menu comes up. If you change some of the "toggle" switches, the game may work. There are 8 combinations so you may have to fiddle a bit before you find out.

Default mode is when modes 1 & 2 & 3 are all disabled (#1), you can enable mode 1 only (#2), enable
mode 2 only (#3), enable mode 3 only (#4), enable modes 1 & 2 (#5), enable modes 1 & 3 (#6), enable
modes 2 & 3 (#7), or finally enable modes 1 & 2 & 3 (#8).

jumbo
18 June 04, 12:46
damn, i didn't know about no options. i'll try that, thx. :)

jumbo
18 June 04, 13:09
no, not workin :fuckin angry:

Harvy2001
18 June 04, 15:57
whats wrong????

I have DMS3 v9 Silver PAL PS2 v9 and IBM Deskstar 60GB drive.


I just installed WE7 Int (with Redux Patch) and just played a game, its working perfectly, I noticed faster loading and moving around the menus is that little faster/smoother, specially when you pick kit colors for your team before a friendly, that loads instanyl instead of the slight pause as it loads the kits.

Ive tried a few games now.



go here if you want to discuss anything about this product a decent forum thier....

http://www.ps2nfo.com/
http://www.ps2nfo.com/ps2hdd.html



I just booted the HDloader disc as normal, clicked Install and inserted the WE7 game in and it worked, I dont understand why yours aint working unless your chip is not working properly or not installed correctly????

pboreham
19 June 04, 07:55
OK, bit behind the times here :-) Can you hook up a normal IDE HD to the PS2?

Thought you needed one of the official PS2HDD add-on boxes...

Sorry for being dumb, I'm normally up to speed on these kind of things, just dont get the time these days!!

wolvesfan
19 June 04, 11:43
OK, bit behind the times here :-) Can you hook up a normal IDE HD to the PS2?

Thought you needed one of the official PS2HDD add-on boxes...

Sorry for being dumb, I'm normally up to speed on these kind of things, just dont get the time these days!!

Yes you can, although not all normal Hard Drives fit the network adapter. People recommend Maxtor HDs because they definitely fit.

jumbo
19 June 04, 17:09
I think my HDLOader disk is fucked...

Can't make image / straight backup of it usin CDRWIN, NERO or ALCOHOL.

I get read errors, disk errors, etc.

Anyone have a link to this sotfware? I own it, I just need to check another version coz this one sure as hell ain't workin properly...

fuck!!!!

Harvy2001
19 June 04, 18:41
you cant backup the HDloader disk its protected.


Their is a pirate version around the net but that dont work either, apparently lets you install games to HDD but not play them.



I ordered my HDLoader disk from Whitedog Games, good service as usual it arrived next day. (same people who chipped my PS2)

jumbo
19 June 04, 19:33
got it, I know what my problem is:

Just tested:

I'm in the browser, I insert a backup, DMS3 detects it. I eject the disk and insert another backup, I get a red screen.

Seems like my DMS3 turns itself after the first boot.

Must be the same with HDLoader, when I open the tray to insert a backup, the chip is already off so I get an invalid disk message...

Goddamit... jesus f christ, i cannot believe this shittttttt...........

Harvy2001
20 June 04, 02:26
?!!?!? Jumbo????!?

1. Turn PS2 on.
2. Insert 'HDD Loader' disc
3. Put PS2 in Standby (hold power button)
4. Press Power button again to start PS2 and HDD loader should boot fine.
5. Select Install
6. Eject disc and Insert PS2 Game (original or backup) when asked
7. Give the game a name and select END

And it should begin installing.

Dont wait for browser screen to appear because sometimes backups etc will not work from thier.

jumbo
20 June 04, 03:45
harry you have a dms3, right?

when you turn your ps2 on, insert a backup then take it out, do you get a red screen when tryin to insert another backup without resetting?

just wondering.

and thx, i'll try that.

jumbo
20 June 04, 03:47
"Disk inserted is not a valid PlayStation 2 disk!" :(

No matter what I do, how I do it, and how many times I do it... :l

Harvy2001
20 June 04, 12:01
hmmm you cant insert a backup then take it out and insert another I dont see why you are doing this?????


But I think you install is faulty.


Contact your modchip installer.

jumbo
20 June 04, 14:40
i did contact him and you just confirmed that my chip is not faulty....

damn, i'ma have to "borrow" another HDLoader and try that before I do something stupid........... :|

cfdh_edmundo
20 June 04, 15:23
sorry for asking what is probably an obvious question but is the whole setup ok with messiah 2 chips ?

pboreham
20 June 04, 19:38
OK, bit behind the times here :-) Can you hook up a normal IDE HD to the PS2?

Thought you needed one of the official PS2HDD add-on boxes...

Sorry for being dumb, I'm normally up to speed on these kind of things, just dont get the time these days!!

Yes you can, although not all normal Hard Drives fit the network adapter. People recommend Maxtor HDs because they definitely fit.

What do you do then? Literally shove it in th Network Adapter port? Is there a good website with some info on this?!

pboreham
20 June 04, 19:56
OK, bit behind the times here :-) Can you hook up a normal IDE HD to the PS2?

Thought you needed one of the official PS2HDD add-on boxes...

Sorry for being dumb, I'm normally up to speed on these kind of things, just dont get the time these days!!

Yes you can, although not all normal Hard Drives fit the network adapter. People recommend Maxtor HDs because they definitely fit.

What do you do then? Literally shove it in th Network Adapter port? Is there a good website with some info on this?!

jumbo
21 June 04, 04:23
I got it.

I booted a backup copy of the HDLoader and went to install and w/o ejecting i selected continue and it asked me to insert a name, etc.

When I ejected the tray and closed with the same disk in, I got the "invalid ps2 disk" message.

My chip simply disables it on EJECT and there's nothin I can do about it.

Must have somethin to do with the sleep mode activating on RESET (5 sec.).

Damn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You lucky fuckers. :D :p

wolvesfan
21 June 04, 08:50
What do you do then? Literally shove it in th Network Adapter port? Is there a good website with some info on this?!

www.hdloader.com

Yes you do "shove it" into the network adapter

dsgg
23 June 04, 02:27
Just wondering I have a chipped ps2 but my mate don’t so if I install a load of games (import and rips)with my chipped ps2 and then put the hdd in his unchipped ps2 would it work ??????

thank you please

jumbo
23 June 04, 02:37
yes.

Elite
23 June 04, 10:11
SO your saying that you can play backed up games (WE8888888888) on the hd with a UNCHIPPED ps2?? But you cant put backups with a unchipped ps2 on the hd? Only with a chipped?

Here is a site for the dutch http://www.futuremax.nl/ very cheap!!

wolvesfan
23 June 04, 10:49
SO your saying that you can play backed up games (WE8888888888) on the hd with a UNCHIPPED ps2?? But you cant put backups with a unchipped ps2 on the hd? Only with a chipped?

Here is a site for the dutch http://www.futuremax.nl/ very cheap!!

Yes, all that is true, although you need an original HD Loader on the unchipped PS2

danGerMouse
23 June 04, 12:02
This almost sounds too good to be true.
Considering I know nothing about how to fiddle about with the innards of a console, is it really as simple as it sounds to install a network adaptor and HDD without any hiccups?
I'm using a flip-top lid and Swap Magic 2.0 for my imports (i.e WE games :mrgreen: ) so if i was to get the necessary parts (network adaptor, 40GB+ Maxtor IDE HDD, and HD Loader) and install them, then can you really just copy any game you want to the HD? If this is true i'll definitely be getting me some of that!

After having a quick look around, i reckon i can get HD Loader for £20, the network adaptor for about £23, and a 80GB Maxtor IDE HDD for £45. Does anyone know if this is the cheapest way of getting all three, or are there any bundles going for cheaper?

ps - are rental versions of games any different from the retail copies? ;)

Elite
23 June 04, 12:23
last question before i order the hdd loader! Can you put the games through pc on your hd (we/pes patched games for example)? Without the need to burn them? grts

jumbo
23 June 04, 15:05
last question before i order the hdd loader! Can you put the games through pc on your hd (we/pes patched games for example)? Without the need to burn them? grts

no that is not possible. it has nothin to do with hdloader. hdloader is a ps2 disk that can only be used in ps2 and when ps2 is on and connected to a tv and you can only install games by swapping... in another words, no. :twisted:

wolvesfan
23 June 04, 18:06
This almost sounds too good to be true.
Considering I know nothing about how to fiddle about with the innards of a console, is it really as simple as it sounds to install a network adaptor and HDD without any hiccups?

It's only a matter or putting the HD in the Network adapter, then screwing the Network Adapter in. (If the HD fits without modification, Maxtor ones do.

You have to put in HD Loader everytime you want to play a game off the HD, although you could just keep it in!

ps - are rental versions of games any different from the retail copies? ;)

Always works for me, although you can't go online with them (DNAS problem) and I don't condone piracy :twisted:

soman
23 June 04, 23:02
Got it,
Installed a 700 kb on a memory card so I boot the hd loader from the mem card now so no more booting from the tray from the odd time I install a game.

We7int menus load ALOT faster.

My installed one is the www.ps2ownz.com version-'


Got a dms3 chip so things are easy for me
www.dms3.com

did this
Installed dev exploere (www.dms3.com) (installed via a cd)
Put 700 kb hd loader on a cd
Installed hd loader
Press triangle to boot hloader
Boot games
Works now when enabled atad and m16 : ) wonderfulllll

dsgg
24 June 04, 01:24
well fu*k my ass in i cants Believe it

dsgg
24 June 04, 01:31
Got it,
Installed a 700 kb on a memory card so I boot the hd loader from the mem card now so no more booting from the tray from the odd time I install a game.

We7int menus load ALOT faster.

My installed one is the www.ps2ownz.com version-'


Got a dms3 chip so things are easy for me
www.dms3.com

did this
Installed dev exploere (www.dms3.com) (installed via a cd)
Put 700 kb hd loader on a cd
Installed hd loader
Press triangle to boot hloader
Boot games
Works now when enabled atad and m16 : ) wonderfulllll




You have the hd loader on a mem card please explain how thanks

oh I have a messiah 1 with an old ps2 will I have any probs

soman
24 June 04, 10:33
The chip has to be able to boot stuff from the Memory Card. Theres a 700 kb version of hd loader floating around, just an elf file.

Fred_Gavioes
24 June 04, 17:50
there is one thing bad about it.


u can't play games onlines with the DNAS thing. (and now, almost 99% of the games are with DNAS) so that's why i wont be buyin this thing.

wolvesfan
24 June 04, 19:10
The chip has to be able to boot stuff from the Memory Card. Theres a 700 kb version of hd loader floating around, just an elf file.

You can use the Memory Card exploit, I have a tutorial but don't know whether I'm allowed to post it.

Games Discussion mods? do I have permission

Elite
25 June 04, 15:19
WORKS GREAT!! What is this all about the memory card? :roll:

cfdh_edmundo
28 June 04, 09:17
You can use the Memory Card exploit, I have a tutorial but don't know whether I'm allowed to post it.

Games Discussion mods? do I have permission

Any decision on if this can be posted or not ?

Harvy2001
28 June 04, 12:20
please PM me i need a link on how to get my HD Loader to boot from MEM card, I have paid for my copy and have been using it for a while but having to put the disc in to play is getting annoying.


I have DMS3 chip so I asumme I can get it too boot without a disc in drive, THANKS

jumbo
28 June 04, 13:06
If you have a V9 than you still need a disc in your drive when bootin from MC... any disk but you still need it. Newer systems have some sort of bug, authentication problem and unless you have 'some' disk in your drive, hdloader won't get past the loading screen... :lol:

nufc_fan123
28 June 04, 13:45
what HD are you guys using because i don't want to buy one that doesn't work with it :D

Harvy2001
28 June 04, 13:46
yet but can someone just explain to me how the hell I get HDD Loader onto mem card please.

I bought my version but I take it i need to get this small version???

if the files are so small anychance someone can just email it to me please.............

harvy2001@hotmail.com

nufc_fan123
28 June 04, 13:46
and what is Dms3 as well?

Elite
28 June 04, 13:50
what HD are you guys using because i don't want to buy one that doesn't work with it :D

I bought a seagate 120gig hd 7200 rpm, 2mb cache! Works great :) grts

nufc_fan123
29 June 04, 01:37
*goes to ebuyer and checks up the prices*

what bout this (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=696243939&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X29 2ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=47781)

im sure it will work, but i thought i better check

my ps2 is going through some upgrades, online and this :D

sounds fun :D

dsgg
29 June 04, 04:40
got it up and running the loading times are great but am having some prob's with some of my back ups

Elite
29 June 04, 08:47
*goes to ebuyer and checks up the prices*

what bout this (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=696243939&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X29 2ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=47781)

im sure it will work, but i thought i better check

my ps2 is going through some upgrades, online and this :D

sounds fun :D

Heeeeeeee m8! I bought that one and it works GREAT! grts.. Been using it for the last 4 days grts :mrgreen:

wolvesfan
29 June 04, 09:24
This is for any PS2 with a swap method.

http://jeexlabs.com/hdloader/

Elite
29 June 04, 11:21
wolvesfan? will this work with messiah 2? grts!

RuneEdge
29 June 04, 11:45
SO can you patch WE7i and burn it to a CDRW and then copy that to the hard drive? Cuz you can't normally run CDRWs.

And can't UK people do any of this? I have a UK console, can't I use a US hard drive?

Elite
29 June 04, 11:53
SO can you patch WE7i and burn it to a CDRW and then copy that to the hard drive? Cuz you can't normally run CDRWs.

And can't UK people do any of this? I have a UK console, can't I use a US hard drive?

only if your ps2 can read cdrw or dvd+/-rw............

RuneEdge
29 June 04, 12:25
Yeah. Mines can cuz read CDRWs. I have the new PS2+ version.
But I'm in the UK so can I use a US harddriveon a UK console?

wolvesfan
29 June 04, 13:16
wolvesfan? will this work with messiah 2? grts!

Yeah, as far as I know.

woosoki
29 June 04, 19:18
This is great! I tested PS2OWNZ version with my leftover Seagate 40G drive. Of the titles I tested, all except Football Kingdom were installed and run successfully.

However. it seems there's a bug -- on each bootup, the first title installs without a hitch but the program emits an error (sth like "not enough disk space") on the subsequent titles I try to install. Strangely, give it a second try and it installs normally.

In addition, each title seems to consume more disk space than its given size.

RuneEdge
29 June 04, 22:38
Does anyone know if you can plug in a harddrive into the UK network adaptor?

wolvesfan
29 June 04, 22:50
Does anyone know if you can plug in a harddrive into the UK network adaptor?

Yes you can

RuneEdge
29 June 04, 22:53
So then this hdloader should also work on a UK console, right?

RuneEdge
29 June 04, 22:54
So then this hdloader should also work on a UK console, right?

jumbo
30 June 04, 15:20
Today I got my ps2 back from repairs and it's finally working good! I can install backups using the HDLoader and everything!

I just installed the HDLoader over the DMS Explorer and can now run it by pressing :triangle: on boot!

Simply awesome! No more disks for me! Yeehaw!!

I love this shit!!!!!!!!!!!

:D :D :D :D :D

dsgg
30 June 04, 17:20
so do you need the DMS3 chip to ues DMS Explorer so you can boot the hdloader from the mem card ???

jumbo
30 June 04, 22:40
yes you do need dms3.

Here's the lowdown on the MC thingy:

with DMS3 = no more using disks

with any other chip = you still have to boot the hdloader disk :D :D :D :lol: :) ;)

RuneEdge
1 July 04, 00:35
BUT DOES THIS WORK FOR UK PEOPLE???!?!?!?

jumbo
1 July 04, 02:16
It'll work even from Zimbabwe'nians as long as you got the following:

DMS3
HDD (either sony or 3rd party)
NA
MC
HDLoader cracked ver.

wolvesfan
1 July 04, 09:58
Or with that link you just need an original PS1 game to run it. But you need a swap method or a friend with a chip etc. to get it on the memory card.

RuneEdge
1 July 04, 11:19
I have a PS2 with a Messiah 2 chip, I could buy a Network Adaptor and I have a spare HD from my PC.
What more do I need?
And all of this is PAL btw.

jumbo
1 July 04, 15:07
RunEdge, you need to have the HDLoader disk and also make sure that the drive fits into the NA.

RuneEdge
1 July 04, 16:49
Can I use a HD of any size? I have also have a cheap 2gb one. Can I use that too?

jumbo
1 July 04, 18:02
40GB & up^

woosoki
1 July 04, 21:26
Actually, 15GB did work too. But it won't hurt to adhere to the recommendation.

jumbo
4 July 04, 00:48
If only we8 is hdloader compatible, my ps2 most likely will not read a single disk ever again. :D

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v292/jumbo11/hdloader2.jpg

I set my system up so that on boot, HDLoader loads up. I don't have to press anything, do anything.

That's life! :D

wolvesfan
4 July 04, 01:02
If this FTP program becomes useable, I'll definitely get a hard drive. How easy will it be to patch WE then?

Inseting kits just before you choose them!

grim
5 July 04, 00:35
ordered the stuff today hope it works.

Elite
5 July 04, 12:22
If this FTP program becomes useable, I'll definitely get a hard drive. How easy will it be to patch WE then?

Inseting kits just before you choose them!

WIch ftp program? cause im curious how i can put discs from my pc to the ps2 hd... I tried to check the content of the ps2 hd but it wont let me on the pc..

wolvesfan
5 July 04, 12:55
It's not really usuable yet, because the games can't be seen. But I'll keep you posted.

RAISH
8 July 04, 19:33
for the time being no one using swap magic cd's or breaker pro to play WE7:I can install any rips which are any bigger than 632mb.

grim
9 July 04, 21:22
I am having probs installing back-ups can any one help??

wolvesfan
9 July 04, 21:38
Grim, if you've got a swap mod (which I'm guessing you have - http://www.jeexlabs.com/hdloader/backups.html

grim
9 July 04, 23:38
i have a messiah chip didnt know i had to swap with that.

Zygalski
10 July 04, 02:14
I don't think you have to swap with a Messiah.

jumbo
10 July 04, 04:21
you shouldn't be swappin with anything if you have messiah.

you should just be able to insert your backup and install it.

your mod install might be the problem.

like it was in my case...

grim
10 July 04, 13:58
nnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooo anyone else have any ideas all my back-ups play perfect just cant install em on to hd although one has.

jumbo
10 July 04, 15:44
try this:

boot your ps2 w/o any disk in it.

eject and insert a backup.

let the ps2 recognize it and the eject again.

insert it again.

does your ps2 still recognize it?

Jackothedon
10 July 04, 16:17
Right i'm quite in shock and awe of this.

I use the fliptop method of booting backups.. quite annoying as sometimes games don't even boot first time (MY PS2 is going on 4 years old)

Can someone tell me what I need to be set. Would I be able to play DVD rips for instance if I had it on my HD.. obviously you cant play rips with SWAP Magic.

Thx alot.

grim
10 July 04, 17:26
Yes Jumbo every thing works fine just get read errors with my back-ups.

kensutz
11 July 04, 19:53
Can I ask you guys where you got hdloader from? I just ordered the network adaptor from play.com and getting a HD tomorrow.

grim
12 July 04, 21:39
http://www.hdloader.com/

There you go cocker.

dsgg
13 July 04, 00:03
I think it could be the disks I would say make a copy of one of your games and then try and install that I had to do that with my copy of fight night 04 it worked fine every time when I booted the disk but it wouldn’t install coz of all the disk errors but the copy I made worked first time

by the way my ps2 is 4/5 years old with a messiah and it works great


hope it works out for you mate

grim
13 July 04, 00:13
i'll try it thanks dude.

dsgg
13 July 04, 00:33
no prob :D

kensutz
13 July 04, 01:15
Did you order the NTSC or PAL version?

dsgg
13 July 04, 05:00
my ps2 is chipped so it wouldnt have mattered which one i ordered but i think it was prob ntsc

kensutz
13 July 04, 12:30
mine is chipped too so i thought i might be ok with NTSC but just wanted to know what version the lads have installed with WE7I

cragd
13 July 04, 16:00
whenever i try to install we7I it comes back with fatal errors and cannot install.????

jumbo
13 July 04, 16:28
when i was installing we7i + patch i got over 120 read errors.

it let me finish the install though and plays fine. :D

dsgg
13 July 04, 18:05
me to same as jumbo if the install finishs it works the prob is when it dont

cragd
14 July 04, 12:15
dammit it doesnt let me install cos of fatal errors!!

foss
16 July 04, 00:18
anyone got WE7iJ to run on HDLoader when installed with HDL_Dump GUI 1.6?

grim
16 July 04, 00:44
anyone got WE7iJ to run on HDLoader when installed with HDL_Dump GUI 1.6?

Whats that? HDL_Dump that is.

foss
16 July 04, 01:54
HDLDump is a program that allows you to install games to the HDD for use on HDLoader from your PC. so basically you put your ps2 HDD that was formatted with HDLoader already and you can transfer games directly to the HDD on your pc w/o using HD Loader to install the games.

http://www.ps2ownz.com/forums/showthread.php?p=116564#post116564

p.s. your avatar is disgusting, how about changing it? who likes looking at disgusting pictures like that? it's funny the first time but im getting sick of looking at it. how about just putting a nice picture of a hot chick in there or something.

foss
16 July 04, 03:52
this fucking sux i cant get WE7 or any game for that matter to run on HD Loader... fucking bullocks
the only reason i got this HDD for ps2 was for winning eleven. anyone offer any suggestions?

grim
17 July 04, 00:26
me too mate non of me back-up are workin on this thing.

foss
17 July 04, 00:42
did u get any original games to work? i tried GTA3 original dvd and it installed using HDLoader but black screens on start of game. also, what version ps2 and modchip u using if any?

grim
17 July 04, 01:14
I am using messiah chip have u tried pressing triangle when you select GTA?

foss
17 July 04, 01:47
i dont think that does anything in HD Loader

jumbo
17 July 04, 02:31
Here's a suggestion:

You two get your systems fixed coz everything should be workin like butter, especially if you have messiah.

foss
17 July 04, 04:22
yeah im going to try to get this on my friends swap magic next time and see if it works. either way ill probably be getting a flip-top or new modchip (DMS3 probably)

kensutz
17 July 04, 18:04
Grim and foss post your hdloader versions and see if the other lads have the same version as you and your hdd types

Jackothedon
17 July 04, 18:55
Can Swap Magic + HDD be used for putting backups on HDD?

wolvesfan
17 July 04, 19:41
Can Swap Magic + HDD be used for putting backups on HDD?

Yes as long as you have a slide card/flip top (or something like that) - http://www.jeexlabs.com/hdloader/backups.html

foss
17 July 04, 19:41
i'm using:

- HD Loader FREE released by ps2ownz [8MB version]
- Samsung SpinPoint P SP0802N 80GB ATA/133 7200RPM Hard Drive w/2MB Buffer
- ps2 v4 US NTSC
- Sony N/A with modem and ethernet
- neokey 2.5 usb

only game i give a shit about is WE7iJ... FUCK SAKE help me

RAISH
17 July 04, 22:54
I got it running on my harddrive using swap magic, easy man

RAISH
17 July 04, 22:58
some patches dont work, for some reason, dont know why.

For example the following rip does not work on the harddrive:

PS2-WE7INT_rip_by_WEKAISER+BLAKCAT_V2_LFP_COGSWAP (616mb)

I ripped the DUMMY.BIN of (PIMP) down so that the file size when burnt ended 627mb. (Mr South Patch) Works!!!!

jumbo
18 July 04, 03:57
If a game doesn't work, means it's ripped incorrectly. Not HDLoader's fault.

And second, there's only one HDLoader. The other so called "versions" are the same thing without the big dummie files.

The code is still the same. So if one don't work, none will.

wolvesfan
18 July 04, 11:11
New HDL_Dump Released (GUI called HDL_DUMB)

HDL_DUMP 0.3 with HDL_DUMB (GUI for it) have been released... grab them HERE (http://www.ps2ownz.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22785), and relevant changes/updates include:
hdl_dumb (that is the GUI build) supports installation and removal of games only
hdl_dump and hdl_dumb are tested on Windows XP with SP 1 ONLY
Windows 9x and ME are unsupported
installation of a DVD9 from an optical drive is unsupported (use an ISO image instead)
HD Loader could automagically enable one or more modes during installation, but hdl_dump does not; do it manually
"zero" and "delete" commands of the command-line version would not ask for confirmation
"zero" command of the command-line version will destroy information on the target HDD
when "icon.bin" file is missing you'll receive "File not found." error
hdl_dumb does not require hdl_dump

http://www.ps2ownz.com/hdl_dumb_0.3.gif

Dead Man
18 July 04, 14:35
Does this work with the MLX2 chip?

RAISH
18 July 04, 20:35
if u properly rip the PIMP rip, taking the DUMMY.BIN down to 0 in terms of file size and running it thru cdmage for errors, you can get it on the harddrive.

dreskids
20 July 04, 08:04
sorry to sound stupid here, but this souns class, so here goes, what do i need to be able to run games on this hd loader thing. do i just need a ps2 and a hd loader disk, or some more hardware and stuff? cheers

wolvesfan
20 July 04, 09:37
sorry to sound stupid here, but this souns class, so here goes, what do i need to be able to run games on this hd loader thing. do i just need a ps2 and a hd loader disk, or some more hardware and stuff? cheers

You need a Hard Drive (between 40gb and 120gb, preferably Maxtor) and a Network adapter for your PS2.

Jackothedon
21 July 04, 17:29
So basically it's not worth buying the offical version of HD LOADER?

And do you still have to run Swap Magic every time to get onto the menu because MY PS" is ancient and takes quite a few times to get games to load.

foss
21 July 04, 19:34
what u really need is a dms3 chip so u can boot hd loader off of the memory card and forgo the optical drive.

Jackothedon
22 July 04, 14:40
Well no point in doing that my PS2 is nearly dead.. how much do pre chipped DMS3's go for?

cleverpetey
22 July 04, 17:05
I have a flip top lid and the swap magic discs, which is by far the easiest and best way to mod your PS2.

With this, you can do the mem card exploit and use one of your PS1 discs to load it up every time without swapping.

mikeom1
22 July 04, 18:14
wolvesfan, any news on the FTP capabilities?

I have been speaking with some guys from the PSX forum (guys who developed the WinHIIP software similar to HDL_Dump), and the main guy Gadget Freak is going to start the FTP thing once the WinHIIP development/bug fixing has slowed down.

Do you have a link for any other projects? cheers

My PS2 has a Messiah 2 pro and I have no problems with HDLoader and patched WE7i, maybe there are problems with the rips themselves. But I am using the HDLoader CD not the MC trick.v :)

Jackothedon
22 July 04, 23:02
I have a flip top lid and the swap magic discs, which is by far the easiest and best way to mod your PS2.

With this, you can do the mem card exploit and use one of your PS1 discs to load it up every time without swapping.

PS1 discs?

Please explain Cleverpetey

Dar
24 July 04, 18:39
Anyone know if a 40gig Seagate Barracuda HD would work with the Network Adaptor? ;)

Specs:

Product Description Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 - hard drive - 40 GB - ATA-100
Type Hard drive - internal
Form Factor 3.5" x 1/3H
Dimensions (WxDxH) 10.2 cm x 14.7 cm x 2.6 cm
Weight 0.6 kg
Capacity 40 GB
Interface Type DMA/ATA-100 (Ultra)
Connector 40 PIN IDC
Data Transfer Rate 100 MBps
Average Seek Time 8.5 ms
Spindle Speed 7200 rpm
Cylinders 16383
Heads (Physical) 1
Buffer Size 2 MB

soman
25 July 04, 09:31
Its more about the distance there is between the Momex and the IDE......Ive got an 80 GB maxtor and works like a charm : )

Dar
26 July 04, 11:43
Yeah, I know Maxtors are the best to get, but this HD is the cheapest I can find, so I was thinking of getting it. Anyone else use one similar and know if it works or fits? :l

foss
26 July 04, 20:55
go here:
http://ps2drives.x-pec.com/

kensutz
27 July 04, 17:55
dar where did you look at prices for hdd's? i got all of my stuff up and running yesterday and have no probs with the hd loader

Dar
28 July 04, 10:28
I looked on Komplett.ie

Thats where they have that HD up there for €55. Not bad at all compared to the prices I've seen other places!

cleverpetey
28 July 04, 12:21
I have a flip top lid and the swap magic discs, which is by far the easiest and best way to mod your PS2.

With this, you can do the mem card exploit and use one of your PS1 discs to load it up every time without swapping.

PS1 discs?

Please explain Cleverpeteyhttp://www.jeexlabs.com/hdloader/

Does anybody know of a W9x compatible program tha does what HDL_dump does? I can't believe how this PS2 developer community seems to have shut the still popular W9x out.

gomito#10
28 July 04, 19:59
Today I got my ps2 back from repairs and it's finally working good! I can install backups using the HDLoader and everything!

I just installed the HDLoader over the DMS Explorer and can now run it by pressing :triangle: on boot!

Simply awesome! No more disks for me! Yeehaw!!

I love this shit!!!!!!!!!!!

:D :D :D :D :D i have talked to you before about getting a dms3 and a ps2 from americanmodz, did yours break from them? I want to do exactly what your doing above.... i already got the network adapter.... Do you still recomend them?

Jackothedon
28 July 04, 23:22
Do you have to install a prog to the hard drive?

If so what Prog and do you do it from the pc?

woosoki
29 July 04, 02:08
HDLoader is no more - here's the announcement at www.hdloader.com:

HDLoader has been withdrawn from the market and will no longer be available for purchase.

Anyway, here's a review (http://arstechnica.com/reviews/004/software/hdloader/hdloader-1.html) of the (now defunct) product, in which I found out the demise.

jumbo
29 July 04, 03:18
Today I got my ps2 back from repairs and it's finally working good! I can install backups using the HDLoader and everything!

I just installed the HDLoader over the DMS Explorer and can now run it by pressing :triangle: on boot!

Simply awesome! No more disks for me! Yeehaw!!

I love this shit!!!!!!!!!!!

:D :D :D :D :D i have talked to you before about getting a dms3 and a ps2 from americanmodz, did yours break from them? I want to do exactly what your doing above.... i already got the network adapter.... Do you still recomend them?

Man, I just posted a long ass reply but this fuckin cheap ass motherfuckin server fucked up and it's gone... :l

Give me a while, I'll rewrite that stuff... ARRGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!! FUCK!

wolvesfan
29 July 04, 10:44
[quote="woosoki"]HDLoader is no more - here's the announcement at www.hdloader.com:

HDLoader has been withdrawn from the market and will no longer be available for purchase.

Anyway, here's a review (http://arstechnica.com/reviews/004/software/hdloader/hdloader-1.html) of the (now defunct) product, in which I found out the demise.[/quote

HD Advance is "replacing" it. www.hdadvance.com

PESV
29 July 04, 14:09
guys ive got a problem and hope someone can help me.

my specs:
i believe i have a neo chip, normally i have to start up with action replay and hold the reset button, when i release it the disk open and i can do a swap.

for the rest a maxtor 120 gb, should give a problem.

i start up hddloader while holding onto the reset button. i go to install, press eject, put in a legal ps2 disk to fool my ps2. it accepts the disc, hddloader ask me to name it at this moment i let loose of the reset button, my tray comes out, i put it WE7i, it automaticly closes, all goes fine, i press end and it starts to initialize. and now 10 minutes later its still intializing... :(

PESV
29 July 04, 14:15
guys ive got a problem and hope someone can help me.

my specs:
i believe i have a neo chip, normally i have to start up with action replay and hold the reset button, when i release it the disk open and i can do a swap.

for the rest a maxtor 120 gb, ..should not give a problem.

i start up hddloader while holding onto the reset button. i go to install, press eject, put in a legal ps2 disk to fool my ps2. it accepts the disc, hddloader ask me to name it at this moment i let loose of the reset button, my tray comes out, i put it WE7i, it automaticly closes, all goes fine, i press end and it starts to initialize. and now 10 minutes later its still intializing... :(

its purely backups, hdd works fine, i can install official ps2 cd's

Jackothedon
29 July 04, 14:56
SO I have bought the HD and the PS" network adaptor and i'm waiting for delivery.. i've burnt my PS1 exploit...

Is there anything else I need to do?

polakis
29 July 04, 15:13
Guys i have a v9 50004 ps2 pal.So i have a maxtor 120Gb drive.I need the Hd Advance and the network adaptor right?
Anything else?
And what do i need to in order to make my ps2 reading automatically the games in the disk???????

PESV
29 July 04, 15:41
in that how-to, what do they mean with "HIGH TOC ORIGINAL"? thanks

wolvesfan
29 July 04, 19:14
in that how-to, what do they mean with "HIGH TOC ORIGINAL"? thanks

Swap Magic or anything you use with the swap method.

PESV
29 July 04, 19:25
great..., WE can be released any moment and my ps2 died!

i tried to simulate having a flip top. after i opened everything up it didnt load up my hdloader cd anymore and things just got worse after that. the tray would not open up anymore..well im not gonna put alot more energy in it, the thing was nearly 5 years old.

what do you guys recommend i should do? i only play WE and maybe GTA:SA when it released.
flip tops arent really available here in holland. a slide card is just as good? and is it compatible enough with hddloader?

foss
30 July 04, 09:43
finally got hd loader working. boots off of my memory card using a psx disc to exploit. no chip, no swap no fliptop. this roxs!! bring me WE8 dvd now!!

PESV
30 July 04, 10:02
are u trying to make me jealous? *cries*

;)

gomito#10
30 July 04, 14:58
Today I got my ps2 back from repairs and it's finally working good! I can install backups using the HDLoader and everything!

I just installed the HDLoader over the DMS Explorer and can now run it by pressing :triangle: on boot!

Simply awesome! No more disks for me! Yeehaw!!

I love this shit!!!!!!!!!!!

:D :D :D :D :D i have talked to you before about getting a dms3 and a ps2 from americanmodz, did yours break from them? I want to do exactly what your doing above.... i already got the network adapter.... Do you still recomend them?

Man, I just posted a long ass reply but this fuckin cheap ass motherfuckin server fucked up and it's gone... :l

Give me a while, I'll rewrite that stuff... ARRGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!! FUCK!

jumbo any progress on this reply :) i just read the review of WE8 and i wanna order this ASAP, i have afeeling my swap method ps2 will break any day now....

PESV
30 July 04, 16:35
that memory thing, i dont really get why the hell u would like to have hdd loader on your memory card? u will still need to have a modchip or make a swap everytime u wanna install a backup am i right?

what exactly is the advantage in doing this?

i allready got everything set up now, bought a new ps2, bought a ps1 game, made the exploit cd, freed space on my mem card.
... i thought i was there but then it said u still need a swap mechanism to run the thing, could of quessed it, i was fooled cause in the guide it didnt say anything about a mod of some kind at the top list of things u need.

well a slide card is allready ordered and coming my way, should be in by monday. i hope it doesnt fuck up my new silver ps2

im pretty pissed by all this. i dont even want to know how much money i spend just to play WE8 from a my hdd. im gonna be so releaved when its all working.

cleverpetey
3 August 04, 21:09
Does anyone know if a Windows 9x compatible version of HDL_Dump has been released?

ash
4 August 04, 18:54
Has nayone got the memory card exploit to work on a v10 machine?

gomito#10
4 August 04, 20:34
Does anyone know if a Windows 9x compatible version of HDL_Dump has been released? man i think its time you should upgrade.... if you dont have the cash, then try linux....

ash
5 August 04, 11:42
Has nayone got the memory card exploit to work on a v10 machine?
as I am having trouble

BigRickRFC
9 August 04, 20:39
what size should the psownz free hdloader be on your memory card it said it had installed correctly but its only about 3kb of corrupted data on card....

this is what it says when i try to load up with psx game

could not load file
loadElf returned -1
could not execute file mc0:/BADATA-SYSTEM/HDLOADERLITE.ELF

ash
11 August 04, 22:54
Did you use the jeexlabs tutorail or the max consloe one?

kel
15 August 04, 06:07
Anybody has the HDL_dump? I can't dowload it because you need to register at ps2ownz to in order to download it but you can't. :|

BigRickRFC
15 August 04, 06:50
Did you use the jeexlabs tutorail or the max consloe one?

maxconsole.............

cleverpetey
15 August 04, 09:26
Does anyone know if a Windows 9x compatible version of HDL_Dump has been released? man i think its time you should upgrade.... if you dont have the cash, then try linux....I have winXP, I just don't want to install it because then I'd have to do so in all my computers, and then I'd have to upgrade the hardware on them. Plus I don't think XP is better than Win98, to be honest.

Lunix? Not a chance, mate.

Anyways, I've now found a program to use WinHIIP is the name. By far the best of all these programs yet, it supports Win9x as well as XP.

soman
15 August 04, 19:42
Reno.911.I use the WinHIP 1.5, its great. Im on win xp pro

pesfan
16 August 04, 00:52
only flaw of this would be sony are cracking down on piracy and trying to get all games on dvd9 discs by 2005 meaning the hdd does not work with dvd9 discs.. the new grand theft auto will not work for sure

foss
17 August 04, 06:32
dvd9 games work fine if u transfer them from a pc iso while your ps2 hdd is in the pc. and eventually you will be able to transfer isos fine over the network adapter. (you can now but its slow as shit)

and to cleverpetey, if you think win98 is better than winxp in any way, you obviously dont have any clue about either operating system or used xp at any length. im not saying xp is better than a linux setup but it's a fucking thousand times better than win98. winxp and win2k however are a lot closer in stability.

cleverpetey
17 August 04, 13:14
It depends on your PC, really, foss. Mine run a lot better with 98. They're not very new, but then again, if they were then I probably wouldn't be playing games on my PS2.

One clear advantage with Win98 is that you don't have to worry about virii as much as XP users, also.

fedagent
19 August 04, 11:26
anyone know where to get a compatiable cheap hdd for this to work?

btw in the UK

gomito#10
19 August 04, 12:59
Does anyone know if a Windows 9x compatible version of HDL_Dump has been released? man i think its time you should upgrade.... if you dont have the cash, then try linux....I have winXP, I just don't want to install it because then I'd have to do so in all my computers, and then I'd have to upgrade the hardware on them. Plus I don't think XP is better than Win98, to be honest.

Lunix? Not a chance, mate.

Anyways, I've now found a program to use WinHIIP is the name. By far the best of all these programs yet, it supports Win9x as well as XP. why not linux? Its more stable then any OS you have named, and no one that i have ever met, has ever gotten a virus on linux, you can emulate most windows programs on linux....

gomito#10
20 August 04, 21:02
that memory thing, i dont really get why the hell u would like to have hdd loader on your memory card? u will still need to have a modchip or make a swap everytime u wanna install a backup am i right?

what exactly is the advantage in doing this?

i allready got everything set up now, bought a new ps2, bought a ps1 game, made the exploit cd, freed space on my mem card.
... i thought i was there but then it said u still need a swap mechanism to run the thing, could of quessed it, i was fooled cause in the guide it didnt say anything about a mod of some kind at the top list of things u need.

well a slide card is allready ordered and coming my way, should be in by monday. i hope it doesnt fuck up my new silver ps2

im pretty pissed by all this. i dont even want to know how much money i spend just to play WE8 from a my hdd. im gonna be so releaved when its all working. YOU DONT NEED A SWAP DISK OR A MOD PS@. Use HDL_DUMP, basically you connect the HD to your pc and install the patched game on the pc, slap that bitch back in your PS2 and your in like flynn!!!!

tupax
20 August 04, 21:47
ok can someone now make a step by step guide for idiots like me? or point me to the direction of where i can get some reading material on the subject

Jackothedon
20 August 04, 23:04
that memory thing, i dont really get why the hell u would like to have hdd loader on your memory card? u will still need to have a modchip or make a swap everytime u wanna install a backup am i right?

what exactly is the advantage in doing this?

i allready got everything set up now, bought a new ps2, bought a ps1 game, made the exploit cd, freed space on my mem card.
... i thought i was there but then it said u still need a swap mechanism to run the thing, could of quessed it, i was fooled cause in the guide it didnt say anything about a mod of some kind at the top list of things u need.

well a slide card is allready ordered and coming my way, should be in by monday. i hope it doesnt fuck up my new silver ps2

im pretty pissed by all this. i dont even want to know how much money i spend just to play WE8 from a my hdd. im gonna be so releaved when its all working. YOU DONT NEED A SWAP DISK OR A MOD PS@. Use HDL_DUMP, basically you connect the HD to your pc and install the patched game on the pc, slap that bitch back in your PS2 and your in like flynn!!!!

But don't you need somrthing to boot the ps2?

Or does the ps2 read straight of the hd and load?

gomito#10
23 August 04, 04:07
that memory thing, i dont really get why the hell u would like to have hdd loader on your memory card? u will still need to have a modchip or make a swap everytime u wanna install a backup am i right?

what exactly is the advantage in doing this?

i allready got everything set up now, bought a new ps2, bought a ps1 game, made the exploit cd, freed space on my mem card.
... i thought i was there but then it said u still need a swap mechanism to run the thing, could of quessed it, i was fooled cause in the guide it didnt say anything about a mod of some kind at the top list of things u need.

well a slide card is allready ordered and coming my way, should be in by monday. i hope it doesnt fuck up my new silver ps2

im pretty pissed by all this. i dont even want to know how much money i spend just to play WE8 from a my hdd. im gonna be so releaved when its all working. YOU DONT NEED A SWAP DISK OR A MOD PS@. Use HDL_DUMP, basically you connect the HD to your pc and install the patched game on the pc, slap that bitch back in your PS2 and your in like flynn!!!!

But don't you need somrthing to boot the ps2?

Or does the ps2 read straight of the hd and load? you need hdadvance in your ps2, then it will load the games of the hard drive

wilier
24 August 04, 03:02
Anyone managed to install original

WE5
WE5FE

onto the HDD, using HD Loader.

It just does not work for me. From WE6 to WE8 is ok!!!!

foss
24 August 04, 08:13
Anyone managed to install original

WE5
WE5FE

onto the HDD, using HD Loader.

It just does not work for me. From WE6 to WE8 is ok!!!!

did u install thru hd loader or connect to your pc and transfer the iso?

wilier
24 August 04, 10:14
Anyone managed to install original

WE5
WE5FE

onto the HDD, using HD Loader.

It just does not work for me. From WE6 to WE8 is ok!!!!

did u install thru hd loader or connect to your pc and transfer the iso?

I used HD Loader... before i attempt to unplug my HDD and attach it to my ancient PC, i want to know whether it is the actual game that has a problem, etc...

cleverpetey
24 August 04, 17:18
why not linux? Its more stable then any OS you have named, and no one that i have ever met, has ever gotten a virus on linux, you can emulate most windows programs on linux....I have no problems with Win98, mate.

foss
26 August 04, 19:48
Anyone managed to install original

WE5
WE5FE

onto the HDD, using HD Loader.

It just does not work for me. From WE6 to WE8 is ok!!!!

WE5 works with Mode 3 Enabled.. i don't have WE5FE but i'm pretty sure it will work also with Mode 3 Enabled.

i installed using hdl_dump (ps2 handiness 0.75 GUI)

wilier
27 August 04, 05:17
Anyone managed to install original

WE5
WE5FE

onto the HDD, using HD Loader.

It just does not work for me. From WE6 to WE8 is ok!!!!

WE5 works with Mode 3 Enabled.. i don't have WE5FE but i'm pretty sure it will work also with Mode 3 Enabled.

i installed using hdl_dump (ps2 handiness 0.75 GUI)

Using HDD Loader, you cannot set the Mode 3 enabled prior to installing, correct? Which means it will not work.

I need to physically remove the HDD and plug into a PC, before following your method of hdl_dump right?

foss
27 August 04, 05:37
willer:

yes. after you put the ps2 hdd in your pc, install this program:

http://forums.psxforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=22748

wilier
27 August 04, 07:01
willer:

yes. after you put the ps2 hdd in your pc, install this program:

http://forums.psxforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=22748

Cheers... :D

fedagent
27 August 04, 21:00
ok just got this and works ok, except one thing.
my xported option files for we8 dont work. i cant figure it out. they worked when i played we8 on dvd but as soon as i put the game on the hdd there is an error in loading the op file. when i go to options you can see that an option file exists but it just doesnt load properly. i thought it might be because i loaded a new untested translation patch so i then put the origianl iso which also failed to load the op file.

please any help is appreciated, option file comes from xport if that makes any difference

foss
27 August 04, 21:02
fedagent:

reupload the xport saves onto your memory card. whenever i update my memory card by way of cd with new elfs (such as hd advance) my xport saves get corrupted. sucks but you shouldnt have to do that more than once (or twice once you install ftp onto your memory card so you can add new elfs that way)

fedagent
28 August 04, 00:09
thanks for the reply foss, but i've tried it. i deleted the op file then put the xport op file on. didnt work. i then tried to delete the op file then create one through the actual game, not suprisingly that actually worked. so i then tried to replace this op file with the one on the pc (xport) but that didnt work either

foss
28 August 04, 00:27
that sux i have no idea why if it was working before it doesnt now.. :eh:

fedagent
28 August 04, 00:35
maybe its cos i have a different setup. i have that mem card exploit thing which allows the hdloader to boot from mem card. someone sent that to me in the form of an xps which i then put on the mem card. after that my xport files dont seem to work

fedagent
28 August 04, 13:10
seems i got it working but only thru ftp. took a bit of time but i got there and now i have a nice complete copy of we8:D

ash
30 August 04, 13:09
Has anybody got FK to work on the HD, I tried with WinHIIP and normally!

wilier
30 August 04, 16:44
Finally got every WE game onto the HDD, using winhiip 1.6, and a USB to IDE cable to attach my HDD to my laptop.
Yeeha!!!

Thanks for all the help, guys!!!

uksparx
30 August 04, 16:52
Is there a way 2 FXP the ISO from hardrive 2 PS2, also can I fxp from Ps2 back 2 PC?

any help appriceted

wilier
31 August 04, 02:21
Is there a way 2 FXP the ISO from hardrive 2 PS2, also can I fxp from Ps2 back 2 PC?

any help appriceted

I think you can use Faplink, but you should search the web for it... and I think it is slower than HDL_Dump and WinHiip, which requires the PS2 HDD to be plugged into the PC.

RenzoLouis
13 September 04, 21:17
it's possible to transfers games with USB2 port?
i have transfer games on my HDD with ethernet(FAPlink) but i don't know if it's possible with usb ?

ash
14 September 04, 18:12
Yeah, use IDE to USB. I use that. FAPLink is too slow.

gomito#10
14 September 04, 18:16
wow i finally hooked this up yesterday, adn this is pretty sick, by far the easiest way to mod you ps2 to play imports/backups... well as long as your familiar with a pc

munkee
15 September 04, 11:01
Bit lost here sorry , so you don't need a modchip anymore to play backups ?

Or do you need to boot with original cd or can you even copy the backup in the first place ?

gomito#10
15 September 04, 14:26
Bit lost here sorry , so you don't need a modchip anymore to play backups ?

Or do you need to boot with original cd or can you even copy the backup in the first place ? nope, no need for a modchip, all you need is a ps2, a hard drive, a network adapter, and HD loader or HD advance software, a pc, and your all set... to get the backups to work you need to copy the image to your pc, hook the hd to your pc, get a program called winhipp, and copy the image over to the HD, then you stick it in the network adapter, put the HD loader disk in the ps2 and you play the game!!! its pretty fucking cool man

munkee
15 September 04, 19:16
looks nice

network adapters cost £20 in HMV and might go buy a hard drive . gotta find out where to get hddloader from now :p

BigRickRFC
19 September 04, 22:16
hi, sorry to keep draggin this up but can someone confirm this....

I have the memory card hdloader it is working with originals but it wont let me install backups it says "no a valid ps2 disc".... so could I use hdl dump with hd in pc and install back ups there

ps I have messiah in ps2..

plus sorry if this has been answered

wolvesfan
19 September 04, 22:39
Yes you can

Placebo
19 September 04, 22:40
My network adaptor is whinging its way to the Czech Republic right now, can't wait, got everything else I need sat waiting :)

munkee
19 September 04, 23:18
do you even need the hdloader disc now that the memory card option file is about now ?

BigRickRFC
20 September 04, 16:42
damn i just tried installing star wars battlefront from the dvd onto my ps2 hard drive through the pc with winhiip but it wont start up on ps2 what mode should i put it to when installing... it has mode 1 mode 2 and mode 3 i tried mode 2 with we8 and it worked but that was an image file stored on pc... star wars doesnt load up

Elite
21 September 04, 07:39
Hi guys! where can i get that memory card hd loader file? Cause im using the original hdloader BUT if i can run it from mc its nicer heeh ;) grts

Placebo
21 September 04, 12:12
I would guess that it's maybe not something we can talk about in public? But I'd like to take a look as well ;)

Placebo
25 September 04, 13:13
Well the good news is that I received my network adaptor and installed some games and got them working off my old HD, the bad news is they run very slowly, maybe 3 times slower than off DVD, so I guess I need to buy a new HD, any recommendations? :)

soman
25 September 04, 20:28
Any modern HDD

ash
25 September 04, 20:47
Get a Maxtor 5200/5400 RPM one, not the 7200rpm as this will really heat up.

I ahve the maxtor 120gb :)

BigRickRFC
25 September 04, 20:50
just got an 80gb maxtor for 37 quid from world of computers here in glasgow... yusssssss




doh! i got the 7200 hehehehe oh well its well ventilated

Placebo
26 September 04, 11:46
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll have to see what I can get from the Czech online computer stores :)

tip
26 September 04, 21:20
hi, i've got maxtor 120GB, network adaptor and hd advance. I want to have patched We8 on my hard disk. I made an iso of We8, i patched it with fernando 0.7 and the transferred it to my hard disk with Winhiip_v1.6.2 but it doesn't work...The original unpatched We8 work no problem when I put it on my hard disk with Winhiip_v1.6.2. I really don't know why the patched iso doesn't work.( I've done all the things properly- made an iso with dvd decrypter, patched with ppf-o-matic 3.0) Someone tried to transfer the patched iso to Hd with Winhiip or hdl_dump?

RenzoLouis
26 September 04, 21:29
hi, i've got maxtor 120GB, network adaptor and hd advance. I want to have patched We8 on my hard disk. I made an iso of We8, i patched it with fernando 0.7 and the transferred it to my hard disk with Winhiip_v1.6.2 but it doesn't work...The original unpatched We8 work no problem when I put it on my hard disk with Winhiip_v1.6.2. I really don't know why the patched iso doesn't work.( I've done all the things properly- made an iso with dvd decrypter, patched with ppf-o-matic 3.0) Someone tried to transfer the patched iso to Hd with Winhiip or hdl_dump?

i have patch on my Hdd it's ok !

tip
26 September 04, 21:34
heh, maybe i did something wrong...Can somebody explain step by step how to patch the game and then transfer it to hd with Winhiip or hdl_dump?

gomito#10
29 September 04, 14:50
guys, yesterday i attempted to add the a game on cd image, and for some reason winhiip blanked my DRIVE!!!! and now whenever I attach it to my pc and start winhiip it crashes.....

Placebo
1 October 04, 07:18
Well apparently the hard drive I currently have in my computer, a 120gb 7200 8mb cache Seagate will work fine in the PS2 so it's a good excuse to order myself a 200gb ata133 7200 8mb cache Maxtor drive for the PC :)

fei-long
5 October 04, 00:04
hi, i've got maxtor 120GB, network adaptor and hd advance. I want to have patched We8 on my hard disk. I made an iso of We8, i patched it with fernando 0.7 and the transferred it to my hard disk with Winhiip_v1.6.2 but it doesn't work...The original unpatched We8 work no problem when I put it on my hard disk with Winhiip_v1.6.2. I really don't know why the patched iso doesn't work.( I've done all the things properly- made an iso with dvd decrypter, patched with ppf-o-matic 3.0) Someone tried to transfer the patched iso to Hd with Winhiip or hdl_dump?

Use hdl_dump. It works for me.

jumbo
5 October 04, 02:43
Fuck swapping out harddrives and all that shit. :D

I transfer my games using FTP.

3 MB per second, NO HASSLE. :D

Baggs
22 October 04, 15:19
Just got myself an network adaptar and an 80gig (7200rpm, 2mb cache) Maxtor hard drive but im having a bit of a problem getting it up and running.

first i set the jumper on the HD to the master setting, hooked it up to my pc and formatted to the ps2 format using WinHiip 1.6.3.
I then installed a backup copy of We8 using the same program.
Next, I hooked everything up to the ps2, got HDLoader on my memory card using the mc exploit and switched on my ps2 with the ps1 disc im using as the triggering disc.

Up to this point everything is fine...HDLoader loads up to the title screen but then i get the following error: "HDLoader could not detect a hard disk drive connected to your ps2".

Any ideas as to what might be causing this problem?

gomito#10
22 October 04, 15:41
Just got myself an network adaptar and an 80gig (7200rpm, 2mb cache) Maxtor hard drive but im having a bit of a problem getting it up and running.

first i set the jumper on the HD to the master setting, hooked it up to my pc and formatted to the ps2 format using WinHiip 1.6.3.
I then installed a backup copy of We8 using the same program.
Next, I hooked everything up to the ps2, got HDLoader on my memory card using the mc exploit and switched on my ps2 with the ps1 disc im using as the triggering disc.

Up to this point everything is fine...HDLoader loads up to the title screen but then i get the following error: "HDLoader could not detect a hard disk drive connected to your ps2".

Any ideas as to what might be causing this problem?baggs take your jumper out completley, if no jumper is found it should tell the bios that the disk must be the master, you probably have it on slave, cause if it was on master you had it on your pc your pc would have tried to boot to the ps2 disk instead of you c:

let me know how it goes bro

gomito#10
22 October 04, 15:41
Fuck swapping out harddrives and all that shit. :D

I transfer my games using FTP.

3 MB per second, NO HASSLE. :Djumbo send me the links about ftp, i wanna do this...

Baggs
22 October 04, 15:50
baggs take your jumper out completley, if no jumper is found it should tell the bios that the disk must be the master, you probably have it on slave, cause if it was on master you had it on your pc your pc would have tried to boot to the ps2 disk instead of you c:

let me know how it goes bro

Nope sorry mate, still no luck...i removed the jumper completely but it still gives me the same error. im really stumped as to what the damn problem might be :(

gomito#10
22 October 04, 15:53
what version ps2 is yours? move the jumper to every positoin, and reboot on each change....

Baggs
22 October 04, 15:57
what version ps2 is yours? move the jumper to every positoin, and reboot on each change....

SCPH-30004 (version 3 if im not mistaken) I tried it in the DS master and cs enabled position but niether work. i doubt the cap limit position will work but ill give it a try anyways. the hd works fine as coz my pc recoginezed it and i even manager to format it to the ps2 format with winhiip so im ruling out a faulty hd.

EDIT: Just tried all of the jumper settings an niether work.

gomito#10
22 October 04, 16:01
SCPH-30004 (version 3 if im not mistaken) I tried it in the DS master and cs enabled position but niether work. i doubt the cap limit position will work but ill give it a try anyways. the hd works fine as coz my pc recoginezed it and i even manager to format it to the ps2 format with winhiip so im ruling out a faulty hd.

EDIT: Just tried all of the jumper settings an niether work.
bags, wipe it clean on your pc, not formatted for ps2, then stick it back in the ps2 and let HDloader format it....

grim
22 October 04, 16:05
bags, wipe it clean on your pc, not formatted for ps2, then stick it back in the ps2 and let HDloader format it....
Thats what i did baggs works fine.

Baggs
22 October 04, 16:38
Sorry lads, just tried wiping the hd clean and getting hdloader to format it...but my ps2 is not recognizing my feckin hd. i'm about ready to chuck everything out the window :(

gomito#10
22 October 04, 16:43
Sorry lads, just tried wiping the hd clean and getting hdloader to format it...but my ps2 is not recognizing my feckin hd. i'm about ready to chuck everything out the window :( do you have another friend with a network adapter? try his

Baggs
22 October 04, 17:10
Nope...they're pretty hard to find here in Malta. seems the Network adapter is working coz the lights on it flash whenever i connect it to my modem. I'm thinking thought the network adapter port might not be connecting to the ps2's for some reason, though they seem to be sliding into each other right. Im truly baffled right now.

Placebo
22 October 04, 17:27
I also had problems getting mine working with the Seagate 120gb drive I have, on doing some reading it seems that my problem is Messiah2+Seagate= not working, so I'm having to use the new Maxtor 160gb 8mb cache drive that I bought for my PC in my PS2, I'm hoping that when I get a PS1 game it will then work from the memory card (I'm using HD loader from cd right now).

Have you checked the HD compatibility chart website? That's where I discovered the messiah2 problem :)

Baggs
22 October 04, 17:32
Care to give a link? I bought a maxtor 80gig since most people opted for maxtor. I can even hear the hard disk spinning so everything is connected right, but hdloader seems to have other ideas. i tried it with hdadvanced too and it gives me the same problem.

Placebo
22 October 04, 17:43
http://ps2drives.x-pec.com/

This is the hard drive that's in it right now that works perfectly........

http://www.alzasoft.cz/DetailPage.asp?DPG=41656
HDD MAXTOR 160GB - 7200rpm 8MB cache

My Seagate worked twice out of maybe 100 attempts, so it's almost there, hopefully as I said loading from the memory card will make it work :)

Baggs
22 October 04, 17:43
http://ps2drives.x-pec.com/?p=drive&did=1055

http://ps2drives.x-pec.com/?p=drive&did=1401

according to the above...my hd is supposed to be compatible :\

Placebo
22 October 04, 17:47
Yeah and according to 9 or so results my Seagate is supposed to be compatible, but the ones replying who said it was were using DMS3? Whereas I'm using Messiah2 and a couple said it didn't work who had that same combination :(

Placebo
22 October 04, 17:49
BTW have you tried loading HDadvance/HDloader from a CD?

Edit: From HDadvance website (it's basically the same program just repackaged)......

HDD Compatibility:
HDAdvance is compatible with all official PS2 HDD, and most other standard IDE HDD with 40GB or larger capacity. Some modern Seagate HDD may have problems when used in conjunction with older models of the official PS2 network adapter. Most Western Digital HDD do not physically fit in the PS2 Official network adapter without some modification.

If HDAdvance stops at the splash screen for you, then it is due to this conflict mentioned above. In order to tackle this you will either need to purchase a new HDD or network adapter.

Baggs
22 October 04, 17:50
Placebo, whats your seagate's specs and product id? i might just go and return mine and get one like yours since you managed to get it working.

Placebo
22 October 04, 17:55
Well the seagate only worked twice out of 100 attempts as I said (from the HD loader CD), but it's this one........

http://ps2drives.x-pec.com/?p=list&v_brand=&v_modelnum=ST3120026A&v_size=&v_rpm=&v_buffersize=&v_fitting=&v_working=&v_version=&v_adaptor=&v_postedby=

Baggs
22 October 04, 18:04
Sorry about that, when i said seagate i ment your maxtor 160 gig drive.

Placebo
22 October 04, 18:10
I posted it above ;)

http://www.alzasoft.cz/DetailPage.asp?DPG=41656

HDD MAXTOR 160GB - 7200rpm 8MB cache

Placebo
22 October 04, 18:12
But I also have a very old spare maxtor 33073H4 5400RPM 30gb drive, that works flawlessly in the PS2 as well, only problem is it's so old and knackered the games run/load slower than on DVD, so I would be thinking that the problem is not related to your hard drive, but rather the network adaptor, or your chip or your PS2 version or something of that nature, can you try a different HD in your PS2?

desertracer
25 October 04, 22:26
jumbo send me the links about ftp, i wanna do this...


I found another link showing the ftp setup

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/114747

desertracer
25 October 04, 22:30
Also this tutorial about PS2 networking

http://lookatthemonkeys.com/html/ps2tut.html

Elite
26 October 04, 00:18
thanks m8! i needed the ftp thingy :D

ash
26 October 04, 15:40
FTP is slow!!!

Use WinHIIP!

wilier
26 October 04, 15:53
I am using WinHIIP... it shows i only have 4 Gb out of my 40Gb left for free space. Even if I remove images, it does not seem to free up space.

When I use the HDLoader utility, it shows 10Gb free.

How do I free it up so that WinHIIP can be used again?

Thanks

Placebo
26 October 04, 18:05
Baggs you get anywhere with it?

Baggs
26 October 04, 20:56
Haven't really touched my ps2 since the weekend as i was busy finishing up an assignment that's due for college on thursday. I'm actually waiting for a replacment laser to get delivered sometime tomorrow or thursday coz my old laser just couldn't read anything anymore. I was trying to get everything to work on my mates ps2 which had an old modchip in it that uses the ar2 to boot discs, so maybe the chip was the problem. anyways im waiting for the laser to get delivered and hook everything up to my ps2 with a magic3 chip and we'll see from there. if my ps2 still doesn't recognize the hd then it surely will be the hd not being compatible. i'll keep you posted as i go along.

N15
26 October 04, 21:29
My friends got this all he does is buy games put dem on the hard drive and send them back

he did that with pro 4 and hes going to do it wid GTA:SA

ash
26 October 04, 22:24
Well have you got the latest verion? 1.6.3 is the latest, and then just format the Hard Drive again. ANd then try again.

Placebo
27 October 04, 19:42
i'll keep you posted as i go along.

Please do, if I can help at all let me know, I know how frustrating it was for me not being able to use it for a couple of weeks, doesn't help to know that when it's working the performance increase is immense :)

gomito#10
29 October 04, 18:38
do any of you guys know how to backup HDloader?

N15
31 October 04, 22:32
Ebay

Baggs
2 November 04, 19:36
Well, i finally received my new laser today, got it installed and everything is running great. the hd is now getting recognized by bootlooder so im up and running. thanks for all your help guys.

gomito#10
2 November 04, 19:48
nice baggs, nice

ash
2 November 04, 20:04
do any of you guys know how to backup HDloader?

Well it is quite hard to do so, but there are copies of HD Loader floating on the net so you can use them. PM for more info and links