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Good god, I can almost hear ZZZZ exploding over this, but here we go anyway ;)
"Forza Motorsport(TM)" (Microsoft Game Studios). "Forza Motorsport" is the first fully customizable racing simulation for Xbox. This groundbreaking game allows gamers to drive hundreds of the hottest cars in the world from more than 60 manufacturers at breakneck speeds. For gamers eager to put their reputation on the line against the best on Xbox Live, "Forza Motorsport" takes the checkered flag.
MS's attempt at a GT4 beater, it should get interesting now ;)
LemonJelly
11 May 04, 10:20
This will be very interesting indeed. Especially if MS manage to get damange modelling into the game, something which GT4 lacks in a big way. Well that and decent AI :)
LemonJelly
11 May 04, 13:13
I just looked on IGN and they have a direct feed movie from the Pre-E3 MS Press conference. It looks like they are using the same licenses as PGR2 as they have Ferrari's in the game.
ZZZZ VAPOUR
13 May 04, 21:24
Looks great!!
http://www.e3insider.com/photos/photoPax/large/DSC_0018.jpg
wouldnt mind that setup in my livingroom tbh!
Was that screen taking from Coopz's room? :mrgreen: ;)
ZZZZ VAPOUR
22 May 04, 00:38
I've seen this game in motion and it's stunning..............Even though it's a blatant GT rip off.
From what I've seen FORZA combines real driving with realistic car damage and sense of speed.
Damage and speed.........Aren't real in the GT series.........why?
I've seen this game in motion and it's stunning..............Even though it's a blatant GT rip off.
From what I've seen FORZA combines real driving with realistic car damage and sense of speed.
Damage and speed.........Aren't real in the GT series.........why?
wait for gt4,a good car,and the nordschleife...you WILL feel speed...
gt4 prologue wanst anything new really, just felt like a expansion pack
dannyboy22
24 November 04, 23:42
There's a demo of this in the next OXM magazine. I've played it, to be honest it isn't that good, but saying that i'm not a massive fan of racing sims. Others will probably love the game :)
kingpug
25 November 04, 02:43
If Microsoft make it, the game will be quality.
Holio
25 November 04, 08:00
And with GT4 delayed in Japan again, this will more and likely beat its release date!!!!!!!!! :D Now that would be a laugh, just hope it's not as dull as DB says it could be.
And with GT4 delayed in Japan again, this will more and likely beat its release date!!!!!!!!! :D Now that would be a laugh, just hope it's not as dull as DB says it could be.
but he also said that hes not a massive fan of racing games so lets wait and see
danwin
25 November 04, 15:38
High hopes for this one, looks fantastic, just hope it's got gameplay to boot. Whens' this one due?
The demo of this is excellent. Comparing this demo and the GT4 JAP demo, Forza is edging ahead in this battle. It's already got several advantages over GT4 and it's still got a few months to go. Roll on release day I say.
The demo of this is excellent. Comparing this demo and the GT4 JAP demo, Forza is edging ahead in this battle. It's already got several advantages over GT4 and it's still got a few months to go. Roll on release day I say.
both games will get butt-kicked by Enthusia Racing.
Go Konami. :mrgreen:
both games will get butt-kicked by Enthusia Racing.
Go Konami. :mrgreen:
Awwwww, I was getting all excited then... and then I noticed the "Go Konami" bit... :(
Awwwww, I was getting all excited then... and then I noticed the "Go Konami" bit... :(
anything against konami?;)
no man, check the enthusia page - the preview videos there look mighty excellent, a lot more realistic in the physics term than both Forza and GT4.Maybe just my opinion, but a lot of guys at racing forums agreed with me :)
Scholes18
9 December 04, 19:54
i like how u can race online for pinkslips, if u lose the race, ur custom car gets deleted from your HDD and goes on to your opponants
Holio
19 January 05, 11:09
From Gamesradar :
[18/01/05 11:49]
Microsoft's Forza Motorsport shows off its 230-strong car list and those Ferraris
With Gran Turimso 4 charming pundits, gaining plaudits and winning podium places across the globe, Microsoft had to do something to steal the Sony game's thunder. But what?
While Polyphony's racer is ready to peak with its second PS2 incarnation, Forza Motorsport won't get underway until spring. How could they attract the world's attention? By revealing the entire list of all 230-dream machines? Hmmm. Show off yet more sumptuous screens? Nice. Whisper the word Ferrari? Ker-ching!
Just take a glance through the 230-strong list below and you will see many of the dream machines that Sony's flagship racer has always lacked. For along with those redheads bearing the famous prancing horse, there is also a plethora of Porsches from the feisty 959 to the effete but neat Boxer.
Just across the grid from that pair sits the square but muscular Pontiac GTO Hardtop, the ultra-lightweight Audi Le Mans Audi R8 and the sedate saloon of Volvo S60 R. And that is just scratching the glossy metallic surface. So go on, dive in.
Forza Motorsport Final Car Roster:
1967 AC Shelby Cobra
1997 Acura NSX
2001 Acura Integra Type-R
2002 Acura RSX Type-S
2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type S
2004 Acura NSX
2002 Acura #42 RealTime Racing NSX SC Driven by Peter Cunningham
2001 Aston Martin V12 Vanquish
2005 Aston Martin DB9 Coupe
2001 Audi 2002 Infineon R8
2004 Audi S4
2004 Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro
2000 Audi S4
2003 Audi RS 6
2002 Audi #1 Champion Audi Racing S4 Competition Driven by Michael Galati
2003 Audi #1 Champion Audi Racing RS 6 Driven by Michael Galati
2002 Audi Le Mans #38 Champion Audi R8
2001 Audi Le Mans #4 Johansson Motorsport R8
2004 Audi #8 24h Nürburgring TT-R
2004 Bentley Continental GT
2003 Bentley #7 Team Bentley Speed 8
1997 BMW #43 Team Schnitzer Motorsport GTR
1999 BMW #15 Team BMW Motorsports V12 LMR
2003 BMW #43 BMW Motorsport M3-GTR
2003 BMW #42 BMW Motorsport M3-GTR
1987 Buick Regal GNX
2002 Cadillac #8 Team Cadillac LMP 02
2004 Cadillac CTS-V
2004 Cadillac #16 Team Cadillac Driven by Max Angelelli
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
1967 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 427 L-88
2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS
1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
2005 Chevrolet Corvette C6
2002 Chevrolet Lingenfelter 427 CID Twin Turbo Corvette
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Guldstrand Edition
2004 Chevrolet #73 3R Racing Corvette Z06 Driven by Phil McClure
2003 Chevrolet #3 Corvette Racing C5-R
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS
2004 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT (Turbo)
2005 Chrysler ME Four-Twelve
1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR
2003 Dodge SRT4
1996 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo
1970 Dodge Challenger R/T Hemi
2003 Dodge Viper SRT10
2004 Dodge Viper Competition Coupe
2000 Dodge Hennessey Viper 800TT
2003 Dodge #23 Magellan Financial Viper Competition Coupe Driven by Paul Mumford
2004 Dodge #22 3R-Racing Viper Competition Coupe Driven by Tommy Archer
2002 Dodge Nürburgring 24 Hours Viper GTS ACR #1 - FujiFilm
1998 Eagle Talon TSI Turbo
2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello
2004 Ferrari 360 Modena
1964 Ferrari 250 GTO
2003 Enzo Ferrari
1995 Ferrari F50
1993 Ferrari 512 TR
1984 Ferrari GTO
1992 Ferrari F40
1967 Ferrari 330 P4
1969 Ferrari Dino 246 GT
1998 Ferrari 355 GTS
2005 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
1996 Ferrari #12 Risi Competizione
1998 Ferrari F355 Challenge
2003 Ferrari #88 Veloqx Prodrive Racing 550 Maranello
2004 Ferrari Challenge Stradale
2003 Ford Focus SVT
1966 Ford GT40
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429
2000 Ford Mustang Cobra R
2005 Ford Mustang GT2005 Ford GT
2004 Ford #10 Tiger Racing Mustang Driven by Carol Hollfelder
2004 Honda Civic Type-R Hatch (Japan)
2000 Honda Prelude Type SH
1999 Honda Civic Si Coupe
1995 Honda Civic Del Sol VTEC
2004 Honda Accord Coupe EX
2003 Honda S2000
1994 Honda Civic SI
1991 Honda CRX Si-R (Japan)
2004 Honda NSX-R (Japan)
2002 Honda Mugen Integra Type-R (Japan)
2003 Honda JGTC #18 Dome Racing Team NSX
2003 Honda JGTC #8 Autobacs Racing Team Aguri NSX
2004 Honda Mugen Civic Type-R Hatch
2000 Honda Integra Type-R (Japan)
2003 Honda Mugen S2000
1992 Honda NSX-R (Japan)
2003 Honda JGTC #16 Dome Racing Team NSX
2002 Honda Integra Type-R (Japan)
2000 Honda Aerogear Integra Type-R
2000 Honda VIS Racing Integra Type-R
2004 Honda Wings West Civic R J Spec
2003 Hyundai Tiburon GT
2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe
1993 Jaguar XJ220 Road Car
1961 Jaguar S1 E-type 3.8
2002 Koenigsegg CC8S
1974 Lancia Stratos HF Stradale
1992 Lancia Delta Integrale EVO
2002 Lexus SC430
2003 Lexus IS300
2002 Lotus Elise 111S
2002 Lotus Esprit V8
1972 Lotus Elan Sprint
2005 Lotus Exige
2005 Lotus Elise
1990 Mazda RX-7 Turbo
2000 Mazda Miata MX-5 1.8i Sport
2004 Mazda RX-8
2003 Mazda Protégé MAZDASPEED
2004 Mazda 3 Sport
1995 Mazda RX-7 Turbo
2000 Mazda MX-5 MAZDASPEED
2004 Mazda RX-8 MAZDASPEED
2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R
1995 Mazda AB FlugRX-7
1995 Mazda INGS RX-7
1954 Mercedes 300SL Gullwing Coupe
1998 Mercedes CLK-GTR
2004 Mercedes C32 AMG
2004 Mercedes SLR
2003 Mercedes CLK55 AMG Coupe
2005 Mercedes CL65 AMG
2003 Mercedes-Benz CLK-DTM #3 Team Vodafone
2003 MINI Cooper-S
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR RS
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4
2003 Mitsubishi Eclipse GTS
1999 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR
1998 Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R
1995 Mitsubishi Mine's CP9A Lancer Evolution VI RS
2000 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII FQ-330
2004 Mitsubishi Sparco Lancer Evolution VIII
2002 Nissan Mine's GT-R (R34)
1972 Nissan 240 ZX
2003 Nissan 350Z Track
1998 Nissan #32 Nissan Motorsports R390 GT1
1994 Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo Version R
2004 Nissan Altima 3.5 SE2000 Nissan Silvia Spec-R
2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II (R34)
1995 Nissan Skyline GT-R
1998 Nissan 240 SX SE
2003 Nissan Skyline V35
1994 Nissan Fairlady Twin Turbo
2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II
2003 Nissan JGTC #3 Hasemi Motorsport Z33 350Z
2003 Nissan Fairlady
2003 Nissan JGTC #12 Team Impul Skyline
1998 Nissan Silvia (S14)
2003 Nissan JGTC #23 NISMO Skyline
1995 Nissan Mine's Skyline R32 GT-R
2002 Nissan Tommy Kaira Skyline GT-R R34
2003 Opel Performance Center #5 Team Phoenix Nürburgring 24 Astra V8
2004 Opel Speedster Turbo
2003 Opel Performance Center #6 Team Phoenix Nüurburgring 24 Astra V8
1999 Pagani Zonda C12
2003 Pagani #17 Carsport America GR
2002 Panoz #10 JML Team Panoz LMP01 EPP
2001 Panoz Esperante GTL
2004 Peugeot 206 Gti 180
2004 Pontiac GTO
1968 Pontiac GTO Hardtop
1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS
1986 Porsche 959
2003 Porsche 911 GT3
2003 Porsche Carrera GT
1998 Porsche #26 911 GT1 Le Mans
1956 Porsche 550 A Spyder
1987 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3
1989 Porsche 944 Turbo
1987 Porsche #17 962 C
1995 Porsche 911 GT2
2003 Porsche Boxster S
2003 Porsche 3R-Racing 911 GT3 Cup Driven by Mike Fitzgerald
2000 Porsche #23 Alex Job Racing 911GT3-RS
2003 Renault Sport Clio V6 RS
2002 Saab 9-3 Viggen
2004 Saleen S7
2000 Saleen Mustang S281
2000 Saleen #2 Konrad Motorsport S7R
2005 SEAT Cupra GT Racer
1999 Shelby Series 1
1968 Shelby Mustang GT-500KR
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi
1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STi
1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS Coupe
2003 Subaru JGTC #77 Cusco Racing Impreza
1998 Subaru Tommy Kaira Impreza M20b 2002
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi Spec-C (Japan) Forza Edition
1998 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo
2003 Toyota Celica GT-S
1985 Toyota AE86 Sprinter Trueno GT Apex
1995 Toyota MR2 Turbo T-Bar
1999 Toyota #27 GT-ONE TS020
2004 Toyota Camry Solara
1969 Toyota 2000GT
2002 Toyota MR2 Spyder
1992 Toyota Supra Turbo
2004 Toyota Altezza RS200
2003 Toyota Celica 1800 VVT-i
2002 Toyota MR-S
2002 Toyota Tom's Z382 Soarer
2002 Toyota Soarer 430SCV
1995 Toyota Tom's T020 MR2
2002 Toyota Tom's W123 MR-S
2003 Toyota JGTC #36 Team TOMS Supra
2003 Toyota JGTC #1 Toyota Team Le Mans Supra
1998 Toyota AB Flug Supra Turbo S900
2003 Toyota APR Performance Celica GTS
1998 Toyota VeilSide Supra Fortune 03
1998 Toyota VeilSide Supra Fortune 99
1995 Toyota Border MR2 Turbo T-bar
1995 Toyota VIS Racing MR2 Turbo T-Bar
2003 Toyota JGTC # 35 Kraft Supra
2001 TVR Tuscan S
1998 TVR Cerbera Speed 12
2001 TVR Tuscan R
2004 Vauxhall VX220 Turbo
2003 Volkswagen Golf R32
1995 Volkswagen Corrado SLC
2004 Volkswagen New Beetle 1.8T Turbo S
2003 Volkswagen Jetta GLX VR6
2004 Volvo S60 R
2004 Volvo #24 At-Speed Motorsports S60 R Driven by Derek Bell
Forza Motorsport will be released in the spring for Xbox
danwin
19 January 05, 12:42
Not a bad list of cars that!
ClassicD
4 February 05, 11:47
US version delayed till May 3rd, which will mean we'll get it even later I'd imagine.
Holio
4 February 05, 11:51
That would be a given then, I played the demo and wasnt impressed, reminded me very much of TOCA2, but we shall have to wait and see now.
As for Mini Coopers, they can eff off ffs, lots more fun cars in the world to drive than them.
As for Mini Coopers, they can eff off ffs, lots more fun cars in the world to drive than them.
Quad bikes are good though, from what I have heard ;)
One of these days there will be a game that actually hits when its announced, too many delays
Holio
4 February 05, 12:01
Quad bikes are good though, from what I have heard ;)
Well if ya see a dirty one, with no seat cover, large back mud flaps, registration number beginning with QNI, let us know, or more perferably let the PSNI know, cheers, ;)
crayon
9 February 05, 18:06
As for Mini Coopers, they can eff off ffs, lots more fun cars in the world to drive than them.
Rather drive a Mini Cooper than a Nissan Fairlady... :mrgreen:
Holio
10 February 05, 11:08
Rather drive a Mini Cooper than a Nissan Fairlady... :mrgreen:
But the Fairlady has a TWIN TURBO....... Bada bing!
Double Hamster power! :D
If the demo was like Toca2 then this game could be good. I much prefer realistice driving games. Stops the likes of Wrighty and Holio using completely dirty tactics to try and finish in 4th instead of 5th to last.....
;)
Holio
10 February 05, 13:24
I thought the demo was very similar to TOCA2, as in racing round Laguna Seca looked identical. The handling has yet to convince me, but hopefully you'll be able to tweak etc.
Wrighty and myself may have been involved in a little car bashing between ourselves, but vengeance was had in the end. As for using dirty tactics on other racers, I'm afraid as I use bumper cam, I cannot see who is either side of me, and I never deliberatly take anyone out, I may use them to lean on every once in a while going round a corner, but that is all, nothing to see here, move along please. ;)
ClassicD
10 February 05, 13:31
"I prefer to call it leaning Classic"
[-X
I cant believe the shocking accusations that I dont drive fair, I have never heard such a ridiculous thing in all my life!!
Holio
11 February 05, 11:48
"I prefer to call it leaning Classic"
[-X
If I don't lean then, how come I get races with Clean Race Kudos then? If you hit someone too hard you lose your Clean Race, if however your side to side racing and you lean your clean race stays intact! ;) Anyhow Classic in one of the races in Chicago you were turning into me, however I held steady and as we were travelling at a high speed, you got a speed wobble and spun out all on your own, not much I could do about that! ;)
ClassicD
11 February 05, 13:25
That was the incident I was talking about. We were side by side in Vipers and I was moving in towards you, but I swear there was loads of room left for you I was just trying to give myself as good a chance of taking the oncoming left-hander as possible, I don't put people into walls, maybe because you use the in-car view you didn't see the gap as well as the outside view would have shown.
Leaning my arse, you ought to have heard the vitriol in this man's voice when CW besmirched him early on in the evening. :lol:
Actually Holio, hitting someone as hard as you can but without you actually hitting the wall wont lose you your Clean Race bonus. (unless maybe you plow straight into someone as they're stopped after hitting a wall already)
Thats just a nice reason/ excuse dirty bastards like to use to defend themselves against being branded a cock. :D
Holio
11 February 05, 13:36
That was the incident I was talking about. We were side by side in Vipers and I was moving in towards you, but I swear there was loads of room left for you I was just trying to give myself as good a chance of taking the oncoming left-hander as possible, I don't put people into walls, maybe because you use the in-car view you didn't see the gap as well as the outside view would have shown.
Ah ok, I thought you were talking about a race in Edinburgh, in that race all I saw was your front right wheel turn towards my 'bumper' as such, then the next thing you were cursing me as I saw you spin out in my rear view mirror. But I had just held a straight line I didnt intentionally try to take you out.
Leaning my arse, you ought to have heard the vitriol in this man's voice when CW besmirched him early on in the evening. :lol:
Now that was something totally different, in the previous race around Yokohama I believe, cant remember for sure though; Wrighty and me had been racing along side each other in a very tight contest, then into a right handed corner he totally T-Boned my car into the corner, leaving me spun round and all sorts and coming in near last in the race. Next race up I swore Vengenance on him for his totally deliberate henious crime. Hence why racing round KGB Corner I took him out in the same style at the only really tight corner on the track on lap 2, and thus laughed myself all the way to near the end of the race ;)
LemonJelly
11 February 05, 13:45
Guys, please keep this thread on topic. PGR2 talk has it's own place.
ClassicD
15 April 05, 15:04
IGN have 'review copy' now, they posted a 2-page article on it. There is nothing mind-blowingly new in the piece that I can see but at least the fact they have the final code surely means there'll be no further delays.
ClassicD
17 April 05, 18:22
As a matter of interest, how many folk here plan to get this, and if so do you have Live?
As a matter of interest, how many folk here plan to get this, and if so do you have Live?
I do, the videos I have seen lately make it look quality
I will be too, just cause we can all get on Live and make some road rage incidents.. :D
I will be too, just cause we can all get on Live and make some road rage incidents.. :D
Like you need an excuse
Like you need an excuse
About as big as one as you .... ;)
ManWithNoMouth
20 April 05, 13:16
My copy's on pre-order too, didn't try the demo but the IGN review has convinced me. Love anything with an online component *and* a decent rating system (that's what killed PES4 for me). If they've got that right, this is going to be awesome.
Milanista
22 April 05, 21:14
Xbox Magazine gave this game 100%.
The Official Mag here gave it 9.4 out of 10
Milanista
22 April 05, 22:28
Just played the Xbox Demo....and i dont get what all the fuss is about. GT4 imo is much better than this. The gameplay is ok, but I dont really see whats so special.
ClassicD
22 April 05, 23:50
What use is GT4's marvellous engine and graphics when there's no semblance of racing?
FlawlessCowboy
23 April 05, 11:19
Just played the Xbox Demo....and i dont get what all the fuss is about. GT4 imo is much better than this. The gameplay is ok, but I dont really see whats so special.
I played the demo yesterday and to be honest, I hated it. The handling I thought was terrible, and there was no sense of speed, even when bombing down a straight at 150MPH.
played it too @ a friend, it sucks.no idea what all the hype is about.inaccurate car models, bad hanndling, no fun at all.
Kenny M
23 April 05, 14:38
is this a new demo or the beta one?
ClassicD
23 April 05, 14:52
Think they mean the new one.
Well I heard a certain Mr Chris Wright got the demo and thinks it's good. IGN have a preview of the game's online side up, and the guy writing it is already saying it's going to be the best online racing sim on any system (I know he's going to be biased in favour of XBox games, but he's obviously then including PGR2 in this which IMO currently holds that crown).
Also from the latest movies they've put up it doesn't look slow to me, but someone just gave me the demo as I was typing this so I'm off to try it ;).
ClassicD
23 April 05, 15:04
:/
Not so sure about this, you guys were right about the speed. The framerate is noticeably poor at times, PGR2 does a better job of the framerate than this does IMO. The poor framerate does make it feel a bit sluggish/slow.
The handling and car models seem fine to me, but I have to say I was expecting a lot more than what they've managed to do, the framerate really hurts the sense of speed.
EDIT - I haven't played the old demo, so I can't say if this is that or a new one. Any way to find out?
spaceman
24 April 05, 19:00
Played the demo today and the thing that hits u is the poor framerate which for a racer is just not acceptable, i hope they fix this for release cos if they dont then it will suck big time..Apart from that i do think the handling seems fine to me also, maybe a little light but only hade a few races so far...
Demos dont sell games, reviews do
Anyone watched the newer Gameplay movies then?
They look quite good I think, and the speed seems to be fine in them. :)
spaceman
24 April 05, 22:43
Demos dont sell games, reviews do
U mean hype !!!!!!
Kenny M
25 April 05, 21:11
i have found a review online.
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=488382
When is it out?
13 May 2005. I have my copy on order despite the demo
on a ten minute impression
Liked what im seeing so far. not superb on the graphics front as a lot of people are raving about , But still enjoying it :) .
Could possibly be a gotham / gt4 beater imo
ClassicD
29 April 05, 14:50
Impressions would be welcome now that it's 'out' if you have the ability to play such things.
Don't know what you mean, CD....:D
SilverSpider
30 April 05, 03:11
I've just had my first stint on this and it seems decent enough I ain't absolutely blown away or anything but I like what I see so far, It certainly seems to hold its own with the other Racers but I can't compare it to GT4 as I don't have it nor have I played it.
The framerate seems to run a little lower than some other racers (i.e. Rallisport 2) at times, but you guys already noticed that in the Demo which I haven't played ... so I can't say whether its been improved since that version or not.
What I can say is that it never gets low enough to spoil things from what I have seen of it so far. In fact to me the framerate feels almost exactly comparable to PGR2 which never seemed like it ran anywhere near 60fps more like 30fps ?
Anyway I firstly went into Arcade Race and took a Big 'Ol Black Bentley GT for a spin around the first track ... "Maple Valley II" a Tarmac at Dusk affair ...
First thing I noticed was a lot of Assists available to help out a Rookie.
The best one being the green "Arrows Raceline" on the track which when you are going too fast glows Red until you drop some speed upon which it returns to Green letting you know you are doing the right speed for that corner/bend, As I say a good feature to the not so "Sim" friendly newcomers ... managed a second place in the Bentley then I switched to a Yellow Porsche 911 GT3 and managed a first 2 laps later.
Other things to mention that I liked ..... The Graphics, well they may or may not be better than GT4's, you tell me ? but they are certainly more than capble of supporting this Game and what they certainly do have is a nice "Style/Look" all of their own and they've also flung in some nice lighting and shadow effects on the models and the track.
Also of note are the Damage effects on the cars, very smart and a lot more advanced than in any of the other racers this side of "McRae/Rallisport/Burns". I had some nice scrapes & cracks on my Vehicles by the end.
Lastly, for those that are into their Stats and Data you have the Telemetry options on the Replays ... Pretty Advanced ... it lets you see in Real time all the Data of your Racing/Car at that exact second in the Race ... Cool Feature for those that want it.
Well I've rambled on for long enough, probably telling you everything you already knew from playing the Demo. ;-)
Anyways hope my impressions were the sort someone was after, just told it as I saw it :)
Cheers Guys
ClassicD
30 April 05, 11:11
Cheers mate, I can live with a PGR2 framerate but the old demo struggled to even match that so it's good you mentioned that game specifically. Most people seem to be saying even with all the assists off, it's far more along the lines of PGR's style of driving than Gran Turismo (i.e. not this all-conquering "simulation" they're trying to sell it as), but still a great game all the same.
I'm quite looking forward to it now.
http://www.msxbox-world.com/xbox/features/article/111/Pimp-My-Ride---Forza-Motorsport.html
'Cool'. :mrgreen:
Unfortunately there's no alphabet, so I can't write "Chris, think twice" on the rear of my car.
SilverSpider
1 May 05, 18:27
Yeah I had mess about with the Decals and Stuff last night ... Quite time consuming getting it to look how you want though :)
I just kept it simple and added a nice little black Spider to the hood of my Shimmering Lime Green Audi TT ... Subtle but Nice.
Yeah I had mess about with the Decals and Stuff last night ... Quite time consuming getting it to look how you want though :)
I just kept it simple and added a nice little black Spider to the hood of my Shimmering Lime Green Audi TT ... Subtle but Nice.
Was the Audi TT the car u started with too cos it was the one i started with too. One small thing i noticed is that for a Four-WD car it dosn't seem to hold the corners aswell as a Four-WD car in say GT4. In fact i have found that i have more control in the a Front-WD car only with the obvious understeer.This is realy alot different to GT4 but not in a negative kind of way, at least its still too early yet for me to say which i prefer....
SilverSpider
2 May 05, 12:01
Was the Audi TT the car u started with too cos it was the one i started with too. One small thing i noticed is that for a Four-WD car it dosn't seem to hold the corners aswell as a Four-WD car in say GT4. In fact i have found that i have more control in the a Front-WD car only with the obvious understeer.This is realy alot different to GT4 but not in a negative kind of way, at least its still too early yet for me to say which i prefer....
Hi spaceman,
Yes you are indeed right mate, I did start with the TT ... it seemed the obvious choice from the selection offered up at the start.
I think this game will be even better played with a Steering wheel as at the moment the difficult thing for me is touching the stick only lightly to turn ... I end up pushing a little hard on it then the next thing the Tyres are screeching underneath me and I am losing speed and grip, but if I get it right the car just goes around smooth without making a sound ... needs a delicate touch :)
I also need to work on my Braking as it never seems as smooth as the CPU AI, they seem to brake very late but still don't skid/lock up ... like I am at times.
I do like the feature of looking at the CPU AI drivers Telemetry as it shows how hard they are Braking/Accelerating and also how much they are turning the wheel in the corners .. helped me see were I was going wrong initially.
I would have liked some License/Training Tests & Tutorials and stuff like they have in GT, you know basically teaching you initially how the Game wants you to drive and where you are going wrong ... but so far I ain't seeen anything more than "Tips" pop up on screen at the end of a Race.
http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox/forza-motorsport/609599p1.html
GameSpy reviews the game, 4 and a half stars out of 5 aint bad ;)
IGN gave it 9.5 I think, and Gamespot scored it higher than it scored GT4.
All in all it's getting top notch reviews, cannae be bad!
Im loving it so far, if only there was a logitech momo wheel for the xbox....
SilverSpider
4 May 05, 19:38
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/driving/forzamotorsport/review.html
9.2/10 at Gamespot !
Thats a pretty good score from them, as they seem to be a lot harder to please these days .... with MGS3 getting 8.7 as a perfect example.
P.S.
Check out the Reader reviews for Forza at Gamespot .... some Fooking :clown: has given it .... 1.6 ???
Most likely a GT4 fanboy ... why people do this is beyond me if they didn't like it as much why not give it 7 or even a 6 ???
But 1.6 thats just Ridiculous for a Game of this calibre.
People should keep scores like that for stuff like "Chicago Enforcer" :mrgreen:
I would give it a 7 or 7.5. Not fantastic, but imo slightly better (altho not as deep as)than GT4.
LemonJelly
5 May 05, 21:42
Really tempted with this game, it was breifly mentioned earlier but any new impressions vs PGR2 and GT4?
There is a 6 minute video review over on IGN now, the guy who does that gets very excited. I think he may have had to change his pants after reviewing it
There is a 6 minute video review over on IGN now, the guy who does that gets very excited. I think he may have had to change his pants after reviewing it
I watched that myself, the game looks a lot smoother than the demo I thought. It'll be some adjustment going from PGR to this, I intend to play most of the career mode online so I'll have to fork out to repair damage you gits cause!
SilverSpider
6 May 05, 14:22
Gamespot have a nice Video Review too for those that are after even more footage of the Game running.
Think it was about 60mb or so.
Gamespot have a nice Video Review too for those that are after even more footage of the Game running.
Think it was about 60mb or so.
Hi SilverSpider,
I just send you friend request on Xboxlive my tag is BzFun ;)
We should create Evo auto Club on xbox live it's will be awesome8)
I'll have to fork out to repair damage you gits cause!
I have no idea what you mean by that, I am known as Mr Signal, Mirror, Manouvre ;)
Look at some of the paint jobs someone has done:
http://img211.echo.cx/img211/6743/ddlivekiss10co.jpg
http://img211.echo.cx/img211/791/ddlivekiss35bx.jpg
http://img231.echo.cx/img231/8076/ddlivestarwars47op.jpg
http://img231.echo.cx/img231/9283/ddlivestarwars20vp.jpg
http://img211.echo.cx/img211/874/ddlivesuperman2rb.jpg
Really looking forward to this game now :).
SilverSpider
9 May 05, 01:47
:shock: :shock: :shock:
http://tabwin.com/forza.htm
:shock: :shock: :shock:
Thought some of you might like a look at those, Some of that stuff is Unreal !!!
Takes "Hours and Hours" apparently but most of it can be done in Game with the Editor. :mrgreen:
The Games been out less than a week and its already amassed a huge Modifying & Community Scene ... Crazy Really.
I think I've just realised how BIG this Game is actually gonna be ... Looks like we have a new "Heavyweight Franchise" in the Console World ?
DAMN, some of them paint jobs are looking class, I dont think I would ever have time to do all the decals like them. There is some classics on that page you put up Silver.
SilverSpider
9 May 05, 09:28
There is some classics on that page you put up Silver.
Tell me about it, I agree with you though ... as I also don't think I will have the Skill or the Time to be pulling out stuff like that :(
I mean come on that Spider-Man & South Park stuff is just Ridiculous on there ... Where would you even begin ???
Crazy Stuff :mrgreen:
LemonJelly
9 May 05, 10:25
They are incredible paint jobs, are you sure they all all done with the ingame editor??? Absoutely insane if they are. I'm ordering this bundled with the Live Starter kit this week.
Very nice paint jobs, can you use them online for others to see?
Speaking of online, how many of you will be playing this on Live? I doubt I'd be playing it offline much if I got it, I just bought GT4 and played it for an hour or so before I got bored with it.
LemonJelly
9 May 05, 10:51
Very nice paint jobs, can you use them online for others to see?
Speaking of online, how many of you will be playing this on Live? I doubt I'd be playing it offline much if I got it, I just bought GT4 and played it for an hour or so before I got bored with it.
Yep you can see the custom paint jobs when online, that is kinda the whole point of it. I'll be on live with this game once I get it.
If it plays as well as PGR, I'd say there will be a big following on Live for it. No doubt keep your eyes peeled in the Network Gaming area for more details on the EW Forza Club...... ;)
Yes Ike that's a big attraction for this game, your car can be genuinely unique online if you put the time and imagination into it's 'artwork' ;). Agree 100% on the GT4 factor, never play it - sure it's realistic, it looks gorgeous, but it's boring as feck.
So you're finally gonna get on Live ReActor eh? :)
I played it last night, fucking loads to do with your car. In theory you could spend more time fucking about with it than racing
SilverSpider
9 May 05, 17:59
I played it last night, fucking loads to do with your car. In theory you could spend more time fucking about with it than racing
CW, I'd be interested to hear what you thought of the Gameplay now that you have had a little sample of it too ? ;-)
CW, I'd be interested to hear what you thought of the Gameplay now that you have had a little sample of it too ? ;-)
I have only had about an hour on it so dont feel equipped enough to comment. I will suggest that everyone turns off the top driving aid as soon as they get the game or you find it very hard to race without it, its the one that gives you a racing line to follow and makes it way too easy.
The game does run smoother than the demo that was doing the rounds, its all fine as far as I am concerned
I have played this game for the last week and in all honestly i would not buy this game cos the framerate just aint right, i mean there is just no sense of speed and cornering can be a real pain weather this is down to the arcady feel of the handling or the drop in frames it just dosn't feel right.At first i thought it was just the car i was driving but after trying out over 10 different cars and putting the best tires and best brakes i still find cornering a mess.It also feels strange that i find the easiest cars to corner with are the front wheel drive cars which normaly suffer from understeer and i find cornering with a four wheel car harder-strange. It may not help when i go from playing GT4 50fps to Forza's 25fps or maybe i have got a beta and not retail cos to me this is not nearly as good as GT4 or PGR2 IMO.......
I was led to believe Forza runs at 30fps and doesn't drop frames, which would put it on the same level as PGR2. Agree that it'd have been better with GT's framerate, which I thought was 60fps, not 50 tho? :S
I was led to believe Forza runs at 30fps and doesn't drop frames, which would put it on the same level as PGR2. Agree that it'd have been better with GT's framerate, which I thought was 60fps, not 50 tho? :S
I'm going off the PAL/NTSC thing and with that GT4 will be 60fps on NTSC but 50fps on PAL cos they ain't no 60hz selecter...as for Forza your probs right there as most Xbox games run in PAL60....so it would be 60fps or 30fps and it deffo ain't the former....but still it just isn't as smooth as PGR2's 30fps, especialy when cornering....I think what i need to do is rent the retail to see if what i have is perhaps a beta version from where the demo came from cos that would explain alot....
Clio, anyone?
http://img2.imagebarrel.com/img/05/128/22/Photo0042.jpg
Game is out in a shop near me, someone on my Friends List is already playing it. I'm gonna go see if they have any left. :)
LemonJelly
11 May 05, 16:03
*Goes to order from Amazon*
Damn damn damn, more money spent. 6 games in a week now, that's bad even by my standards.
Anyone ordered from Gameplay? My order is being picked and should be despatched today :)
EDIT: Despatched 8)
LemonJelly
11 May 05, 17:09
Looks like ClassicD managed to find a copy...I just got an alert to say he was playing it :) Whats it like??
ClassicD is a shitbag, no offence ;)
None taken :).
Aye it's pretty good, initially a few concerns about the sense of speed but once I'd gotten on to faster cars it improved. Although, regarding this issue I would still say that GT4 has it licked by a mile. Graphically, I tend to focus on the framerate and that's why I have to say GT4 spanks it here.
I have only played career mode so far, and chose the Audi TT (Europe). I turned off all assists except manual gearshifting, I'm a lazy cnut so I stick with auto. Anyway, first corner then, what a nightmare! Maybe it's just my bad technique I don't know, but I had to turn ABS back on again because during braking the wheels just lock up completely and you can't turn. As soon as I stuck ABS back on it solved that problem, and it's since then been pretty controllable with the racing line, TCS and that other one turned off.
XBox Live - I only raced a few times on it in career mode, not tried the basic XBox Live option from the main menu yet. It's split into classes for career racing, what I found was when I took my B4-rated car into that area every room I entered was filled with B1-rated cars, and I consequently got gubbed. Even when I put a few bits and bobs on the motor to get it up to B1, I still got gubbed. Having said that I haven't tinkered at all with the settings, something you're definitely gonna have to do to play the career online. It was all North American folk I was playing with unsurprisingly.
The scoreboard integration is fecking great, on the circuit select screen pressing the blue button cycles through the different boards; Overall, Friends List, Car Club and Local (this last one is every time done on that event on your own XBox, regardless of car).
I had a wee bash at the vynils, with the right amount of time spent here you could make some nifty looking cars. I can see myself spending as much time in this bit as actually racing :).
Hopefully some of you get it today and can maybe play this evening, if not it'll be Friday/this weekend.
LemonJelly
12 May 05, 11:02
My copy was dispatched this morning so i should get it tomorrow. Hmmmm shall I work from home??? ;)
Just came in from college to see my copy lying on the ground 8) I'll have a quick bash just now and maybe pop online later tonight :)
These games are starting to get on my t*ts. So much to do, so many courses to complete etc - suppose they have to be like this at the price. I still haven't played a car game though that feels like the real thing. It always feels a little unresponsive. Saying that, I'm not an expert like some of you guys (respect is due) and I don't really want to put in the time analysing what is at the end of the day a game.Makes for interesting reading though.:D
The racing line makes it a LOT easier!
My copy of the game was also lying in my hallway when I got home for dinner. Might squeeze a bit of time in on it now and get my car picked
Evo-Webs Car Club was set up this morning, invites to the select few I know have the gamve have been sent out
I intend to go and buy it in a bit, so send one my way ;)
LemonJelly
14 May 05, 13:56
Yep I have the game so fire me an invite as well please Chris, if you haven't already done so.
Its a great game, really enjoying it. However has anyone seen how shocking the manual is?? I swear someone has done a find and replace on "c" and replaced it with "fi". A example web site from the manual www.xbox.fion/fionefit. Which is meant to be www.xbox.com/connect! lol :)
Chris, plan swappadoodle has gone off without a hitch. ;)
So I now how have my copy of Forza. :mrgreen:
Chris, plan swappadoodle has gone off without a hitch. ;)
So I now how have my copy of Forza. :mrgreen:
Good to hear that your fiendish plan went as planned
juventus11
14 May 05, 19:59
I have to say the game is sweet, the fact that all these arses always bash into me, the game play is quite good, but I think the line that tells you when to slow down makes it toooo easy.
good graphics though.
You can turn the driving line off and I would advise you to as soon as you have a couple of races under your belt
The graphics look kinda cartoonish compared to Gran Turismo 4. Anyway, is the game good? Maybe I could get it myself..
The graphics look kinda cartoonish compared to Gran Turismo 4. Anyway, is the game good? Maybe I could get it myself..
I havent seen one bad review for it and I have read em all. For me its great
Good good good. I haven't been on Live much lately due to me not liking any of my games that much. Hopefully online play isn't just a contest of who can bash the other drivers off the track the best like PGR2.
Milanista
14 May 05, 20:13
Mikey the screenshots around dont really portray the game's graphics. The graphics are actually very very good. At first i thought the graphics looked shit in reviews/previews but then they were much better while actually playing.
My only problem is that there is no real sense of speed, well not yet.
Mikey the screenshots around dont really portray the game's graphics. The graphics are actually very very good. At first i thought the graphics looked shit in reviews/previews but then they were much better while actually playing.
My only problem is that there is no real sense of speed, well not yet.
Alright, cheers mate. I've still got Gran Turismo 4 to play a bit yet, as I haven't really played it much since I got it. Once I've given that a good playing on. I'll check this one out.
Wheres this car club invite thing? :)
Wheres this car club invite thing? :)
I will invite you when I next log on with it, calm down dear
Well I've barely started, only played one "career" race, along with a starting introductory session on Laguna Seca in free run, but I have to say I like it a lot so far. It does start off feeling a little slow, but I got the feeling that it was more into doing things right, from the beginning of the game rather than blast through the easy parts and then find the latter parts to be a lot more difficult. A nice way to break you in if you will. ;)
I've started out as I intend to carry on, Racing Line, Traction control and Stability Management all OFF! Only ABS left on, and I must say, I like tha handling a lot as it is now.
I've onyl got myself a white Civic Type-R so far, and I spent 15 mins in the decal shop and put a nice black "Punisher" skull logo on the bonnet. Cant wait to get into the paint job thing a bit more, nearly looking forward to that as much as playing the actual game. :D
Looks good so far!
Nick Cave
15 May 05, 01:03
Whats the split screen 2 player like, can you race with a full grid or is it just one on one??
I had to turn TCS back on, every car felt like I was driving on ice. I've not even tried the racing line yet but you can sometimes spot people online who are using it.
Had a few races with ReActor and Kenny M last night, not bad tho these German guys came in and talked gobbledegook (or was it German? ;) ) non-stop. In the last race one of them piled round the first corner taking me and Kenny off, the twat. On the last lap I caught up with him and was all over the back of his car, I may well have nudged him and he went apeshit! He was screaming all this stuff in that funny language with my name thrown in every so often, I was shoutin back "I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING!", then I got "ASSHOLE ASSHOLE!" back at me, feckin hilarious! :mrgreen:
For anyone who's had a problem with seeing other people's paint jobs or people not seeing their's online, in the lobby you have to wait till they download to your machine. Next to the car name is the wee box with the car class (A1, B3, etc), that will fill up with black if you're downloading someone's paint job, if you don't wait for it to finish and then 'clear', you won't see that car's custom artwork.
i am shit at this game - well most driving games.
i always finish last and spend most of the time off the track hugging the barriers.
it's really pissing me off.
any tips to better my racing?
LemonJelly
15 May 05, 11:13
Yeah it was a good laugh last night. I'm still shite at the game, sometimes you brake and you just lose your grip and fly straight throgh the corner. I guess I need to brake earlier :D
Yeah didn't those Germans go on and on and on...bloody hell I don't think they stopped to breath once!
I'm still getting used to the game and it is a much better "racing" experience online, however PGR2 is far more accessible with regards to driving difficulty.
Yeah it was a good laugh last night. I'm still shite at the game, sometimes you brake and you just lose your grip and fly straight throgh the corner. I guess I need to brake earlier :D
Yeah didn't those Germans go on and on and on...bloody hell I don't think they stopped to breath once!
I'm still getting used to the game and it is a much better "racing" experience online, however PGR2 is far more accessible with regards to driving difficulty.
oh, so you are lemonjelly!
i will add you to my list of friends.
i thought those germans were reading me a bedtime story or something.....blah blah blah..
i loved it when classicd just said 'i don't understand a word your saying mate!' haha :)
Classic mate, I've only really driven my Type-R properly, but I love it without traction control on, I can get the back end out if I want and glide through some corners. It also helps towards my 1500 difficulty "bonus" points at the end of every race. :D
I'm gonna stick with these settings, as they feel just right for me (love a bit of drifting).
I'm the opposite, I want to drive round a corner in a smooth line rather than throw the back end out, no Kudos points here ;).
haha true, but I have the option of throwing the back end out if I want. Sure, keeping a tight racing line is much better most of the time, but for some wide long corners (Midway II I think has that wide open hairpin type corner) its great to just feather the brakes and put the boot down, watch the car glide slightly sideways around the corner. ;)
Anyone have tips on how to get your car to compete well online? I'm currently a C3 class I think with my Civic, but surely it'll get mauled online againt other proper C class cars, I've only added a muffler and a quick gear change, maybe one or two other small things, but no turbo or anything, as that would have made it a C1 and I know I'd get spanked by them in it.
I'm yet to play online, I'm a bit afraid to due to not being confident in my car. Might unlock some better ones first.
haha true, but I have the option of throwing the back end out if I want. Sure, keeping a tight racing line is much better most of the time, but for some wide long corners (Midway II I think has that wide open hairpin type corner) its great to just feather the brakes and put the boot down, watch the car glide slightly sideways around the corner. ;)
Anyone have tips on how to get your car to compete well online? I'm currently a C3 class I think with my Civic, but surely it'll get mauled online againt other proper C class cars, I've only added a muffler and a quick gear change, maybe one or two other small things, but no turbo or anything, as that would have made it a C1 and I know I'd get spanked by them in it.
I'm yet to play online, I'm a bit afraid to due to not being confident in my car. Might unlock some better ones first.
i don't think you can do as bad as me ;)
as long as the folks are cool, then it's much fun online.
I manage to break my car on the first corner in most races, by the time I finish my car is just about in one piece ;)
That ^ doesn't surprise me.
I actually thought of you when I started playing this, I thought it might actually get you to learn to race, because bumpeing other people fucks up your car royally in this most of the time. :D
Could life as we know it end?! ;)
Was just racing A-Class with my suped up FTO, terrible for first and second gear but then it just screams away, the people I was racing were moaning about me in foreign languages :D
That ^ doesn't surprise me.
I actually thought of you when I started playing this, I thought it might actually get you to learn to race, because bumpeing other people fucks up your car royally in this most of the time. :D
Could life as we know it end?! ;)
Life as I know it has ended!!
FlawlessCowboy
15 May 05, 19:36
If someone could send me an invite to this special car club thingy, that'd be cool :) I should have the game within the next few days
If someone could send me an invite to this special car club thingy, that'd be cool :) I should have the game within the next few days
That would be my responsibility, I will invite those who have mentioned themselves as I log on now
but no turbo or anything, as that would have made it a C1 and I know I'd get spanked by them in it.
You probably realise now but it's worth mentioning that C1 is the fastest you can get a class-C car without moving it up to B. The classes aren't split into C1, C2, etc, just C, so it's your C3 that would get spanked ;).
That would be my responsibility, I will invite those who have mentioned themselves as I log on now
I wouldn't mind an invite if possible? :)
I wouldn't mind an invite if possible? :)
I will send you and LemonJelly both an invite to the Club tonight. It is me or does that sound really odd?
FlawlessCowboy
16 May 05, 14:50
If you like alot of chocolate on your biscuit......
;)
I'm convinced and ordered it, should get it on Thursday. Hope to see you online soon, I promise to keep silent too. ;)
Ok lads, I know some of you have opened up a great deal in this game, but I have only started the singleplayer game. A tip came on screen saying it's better to keep the cars you win rather than sell them, now I have two bobbins cars, the old toyota that you basically win in your first race and a dodgy nissan too, I could sell them both and get a Mitsubushi FTO which would mean I would have a chance of winning the Asia class and probably the FWD class.
So is it best to sell bobbins cars, or keep the whole lot, also can you only a win a car once?
Well I bought an Audi TT to kick things off and it didn't seem too long before that had won me a better car, so I punted the Audi sharpish. I still have a couple of bobbins efforts myself, like the Lancia, but I got rid of some Nissan effort and many others.
In the end it would seem you're never too short on cash so you can always just go and buy a car for a lower class should you need one.
I haven't sold any of the cars I've won (or the car I started with) yet. I think I have 11 or 12 cars now. No point in selling them really, its not worth it! :D
I got myself a lovely MR2 Classic, should give yours a bit of a challenge hopefully. ;)
I never used an MR2 that night Dar, the green machine was an F355 with a lovely paintjob :).
I do have an MR2 though.
LemonJelly
18 May 05, 13:44
I'm desperate to get the F355 and F360...I need to play the career mode a bit more.
Ah alrighty, well my MR2 might match the 355 then..... ;)
I gave it a lovely tricolor paintjob this morning as well, its all shiny and green whit and orange, but still manages to be quite sleek looking. :mrgreen:
I have a 360 Modena now which is bang on the limit of A1 and tops out at 187 mph with no tweaking.
Let's see what happens at the next Evo-Web *coff* racing night ;)
LemonJelly
18 May 05, 14:34
How long did it take you to get that Babs??
187 eh?
Thats not bad, think my MR2 tops out at 260kmh, so converting that makes...161.5ish. Hmmm, a bit of catching up to do, but at least my MR2 does 0-60 in 3.5 seconds, which is nice. :D
Milanista
18 May 05, 14:55
Do you lot do lots of tweaking?
I do some, not a lot.
I might get into it a bit more, but usually once I do a slight bit and I'm happy with how the car handles and how its acceleration and top speed are I leave it at that. I dont really change all the damper and all those other settings
usually just tyre pressure, suspension and gear ratios.
I'm based in Asia, it took me to level 20 to open Ferrari.
I'm based in Europe, I bought myself one of those Modenas after reading your post ;). There is a series race for stock Modenas which the prize for winning is the Challenge Stradale, after I get that I'll fire some extra bits onto both Ferraris.
Anyone else won the Tommy Kiara's Nissan Skyline? It's an S-Class car but it let me put every single buyable upgrade onto it and it didn't go into the R-Class, though I don't know if you can do that in the first place. It's got 10.0 for acceleration, honestly, you have to see this thing it's so quick!
I'm based in Europe, I bought myself one of those Modenas after reading your post ;). There is a series race for stock Modenas which the prize for winning is the Challenge Stradale, after I get that I'll fire some extra bits onto both Ferraris.
Anyone else won the Tommy Kiara's Nissan Skyline? It's an S-Class car but it let me put every single buyable upgrade onto it and it didn't go into the R-Class, though I don't know if you can do that in the first place. It's got 10.0 for acceleration, honestly, you have to see this thing it's so quick!
in the manual, it says no car can be upgraded to R class and R class can not be downgraded.
I got a 355 Challenge as a reward and my god, the brakes and steering are unbelievable :)
(And that's my 4,000th post on here - woohoo :))
SilverSpider
19 May 05, 11:10
I started playing this in Career last night ...
I've started with the Assists off except AUTO Gears .... but a few races later and I was still sliding right through corners .... whilst the CPU brakes at exactly the same time as me and just glides round the corner without so much as a little screech ?
I am not among the Elite players when it comes to Sim-driving Games as I have never really played most of them for long if at all ... but I want to give this one a fairer crack of the whip and try and get in to it in a bigger way and hopefully be half decent on it.
What assists do most of you Guys use or not use as the Case may be ?
Basically I don't want to be a Tart and use ALL the Assists but at the same time I am gonna lose all patience with it if I keep going like last night .... had to keep Restarting the Race over and over :mryellow:
So any advice from you Guys would be welcomed
Thanks.
I think the Com basically plays with the assists on, so no brakes locking up, and having traction control and stabilty control on. When I was on Live last Sunday, everyone only had the driving line turned off, and so it seemed fair enough with everyone doing the same thing.
While playing career offline, I have all the assists off except having auto gears and light damage rather than simiulation, but that it only to get credit bonus and make more spondoolies.
I play with the driving line on atm, just til I learnt the tracks better, but the only other assist I have on is ABS. I think with traction off I can learn to control my accelerating better (especially off the line), and I love having stability off, 4-wheel gliding through some of the fast corners (like the end on one of the Autumn Ring configurations) is too much fun :)
I only use ABS, and the only reason I use it is because I believe I should still have a fair chance of making it around a corner if I miss the braking line by about 5 feet, which, to be honest, cant happen with ABS turned off becuase you just lock the wheels and slide away the wrong direction. :D
Much like Babs I love to be able to get my car sideways if I want, and the traction control just takes away a lot of the fun, not only at the start of the race but also coming out of most corners. I prefer to be able to accelerate at my own pace, or spin the wheels a bit if I so desire. :mrgreen:
Also Holio, I think you'll find I was only using ABS online that evening as well. ;)
I've only tried the other things a few times, not sure if I'll keep them or not, I'm still deciding.
Tried em all off when I first got the game, I'm afraid ABS is a must for myself as the wheels just lock up far too easily (with pedals you'd be able to control that much better). As I was really struggling at first I turned everything back on (except the racing line), and have just left it that way. TCS I'm not sure about, I think I need it as I tend to have a bit of an itchy trigger-finger and end up spinning my wheels without it. STM, well I have no flookin idea what that does, I'll turn it off next time I play and see what happens.
You''l hate it with STM off mate, it basically lets the power to yuor wheels run free, therefore meaning drift! :D
Judging by your hate for all things sideways, I'd say you'd be better off with that left on as well. ;)
SilverSpider
19 May 05, 14:52
Thanks Guys, great Replies and Response from you all there ... appreciate it Loads :)
I think I am gonna basically try all the suggestions given and see what suits my style (or lack of it) the most ;-)
Then I should know whether I am gonna be a "Drifter" like babs & dar or more of an "In Control" Freak like Classic ;-)
Thanks Again.
I play with all assists off apart from automatic gears. I do lock the wheels a lot when breaking but after a while I get used to the car and the breaking distances for it. The only real car I've had bother with is the Corvette C6 I think it is. I modified it so it is now over 800hp, this was to complete the last couple of events on the amateur competitions. However I really struggle with it cos you need to lightly press the trigger to accelerate otherwise you end up sliding all over the place. I think I might need to turn some assists on to finish those events or try another car.
How far through are all you guys? I think I am around 40% of career mode just now. It's getting hard though.
I'm only just over 10% through at this stage. not gonna rush it. :)
Christ. It isn't half getting hard. Anybody tried the stock Modena event? I tried the first race a couple of times at Laguna Seca and it's driving me mad. I'm getting laps time into low 1 min 31's but if I make one little mistake I fall to the back of the pack and then they just pull away getting lap times in the 1 min 29's. I tried with ABS and STM on and got a better overall time but still finished 2nd last or something. Looks as though I'll be forced to put the A.I back to normal.
:(
I'm shit at it, but I love this game.
LemonJelly
23 May 05, 09:09
I'm loving this game now, had a couple of goes at the weekend and the driving model is excellent. It is simulated racing but more geared on the fun side. The AI is really great in my opinion.
I'm loving driving my 291bhp supercharged Mini Cooper S, it is quality. I need to add a few more mods to try and get some traction off the line as I am still wheel spinning in 3rd gear :D . I have also switched off all assists apart from ABS and Auto Gears, much much better handling with TCS off.
SilverSpider
23 May 05, 12:38
I too am really enjoying this now after my initial Frustrations ...
I think half my problem was I was trying to drive EXACTLY like the CPU rather than the way I wanted to drive, The other half of the problem being that I was always playing it late at Night when I was already pretty knackered and I think this just made me get even more Frustrated with it when I made mistakes ... :mryellow:
This Weekend I'd been playing it at a more reasonable time and I found myself having a lot more patience and probably better reactions too. I also went on Live for the first time Yesterday and had a Snoop around to see what was what ... Interesting to see the Replays that are on there you can learn a wee bit from that stuff.
I am still pretty Pish mind ;-) .... but Basically using different cars coupled with more playing time and getting to know some of the Tracks better has lead to me feeling a bit more confident and in control rather than just bumbling around the Track like I was initially.
It's just like anything else I guess .... If you want to be half decent you have to invest the Time :)
P.S. Mr. Wright If you see this can I get an invite to "The Club" please. ;-)
LemonJelly
23 May 05, 12:44
Some of the tracks are great. I was getting annoyed at not knowing the tracks but after the weekend I know some of them really well. I love the Rio track now, that is great, so is Blue Mountain, Tsakuba Circuit etc etc. Great race tracks. I did some of the point to point racing as well and that is pretty cool.
I haven't sold a car yet, I'm gonna try and get them all.
I haven't sold a car yet, I'm gonna try and get them all. :shock:
P.S. Mr. Wright If you see this can I get an invite to "The Club" please. ;)
Me too please!
P.S. Mr. Wright If you see this can I get an invite to "The Club" please. ;)Me too please!
I'd still like one too please.
:)
You are all so demanding.
If you wouldnt mind sending me a Friends Request BOADC I will get you added as soon as I log on tonight.
Ike, I will add you to the club later also
You are all so demanding.
If you wouldnt mind sending me a Friends Request BOADC I will get you added as soon as I log on tonight.
No probs, will do.
Have any of you trained a Drivatar yet?
Have any of you trained a Drivatar yet?
I have yes, hes better than me but costs you a shedload of money when you use him
I have yes, hes better than me but costs you a shedload of money when you use him
So I've heard. How much exactly? Is it a percentage of your winnings or a certain amount each time regardless of what you win using him.
It seems a pretty cool feature. I've raced against mine in head to head but I always finish well clear of it. I suppose I need to train it a bit more.
So I've heard. How much exactly? Is it a percentage of your winnings or a certain amount each time regardless of what you win using him.
It seems a pretty cool feature. I've raced against mine in head to head but I always finish well clear of it. I suppose I need to train it a bit more.
I think it was around 75% of my winnings, there is just no need for it to rob me blind. I only did it the once and when I saw how much I had earned I decided never to use it again. Though as my actual driving is piss poor I can see me wheeling him out again the near future ;)
If your driving is so bad how come you can teach the Drivatar to be better? :)
If your driving is so bad how come you can teach the Drivatar to be better? :)
I taught it with my serious driving head on, that and the fact that I am the only car on track when I trained it ;)
LemonJelly
2 June 05, 16:38
I taught it with my serious driving head on...
Now that IS a scary thought! Don't ever bring that serious driving head onto Live! ;)
Nice wheelie here:
http://crystal2136.free.fr/JONATHAN/xbox/wheelie.mpg
ClassicD
10 June 05, 14:12
Look, Carl's been playing too much Forza:
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=GeneralLee&width=320
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